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Brian Daboll's Offensive Point Production

M.S. : 1/28/2022 8:06 pm

as an NFL Offensive Coordinator:

2009 Cleveland Browns 15.3 PPG
2010 Cleveland Browns 16.9 PPG
2011 Miami Dolphins 20.6 PPG
2012 Kansas City Chiefs 13.2 PPG
2018 Buffalo Bills 16.8 PPG
2019 Buffalo Bills 19.6 PPG
2020 Buffalo Bills 31.3 PPG
2021 Buffalo Bills 28.4 PPG

2009 Cleveland Browns 5-11
2010 Cleveland Browns 5-11
2011 Miami Dolphins 6-10
2012 Kansas City Chiefs 2-14
2018 Buffalo Bills 6-10
2019 Buffalo Bills 10-6
2020 Buffalo Bills 13-3
2021 Buffalo Bills 11-6




Everyone  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/28/2022 8:09 pm : link
keeps focusing on Daboll and the offensive side of the ball (for obvious reasons).

But Daboll is the head coach now. His job title comes with different responsibilities. I'm more interested in seeing how his leads a team - offense, defense, special teams.
In the end, if he has a QB, he will get it done.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/28/2022 8:09 pm : link
If not, 3 years max.
RE: In the end, if he has a QB, he will get it done.  
robbieballs2003 : 1/28/2022 8:28 pm : link
In comment 15581162 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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If not, 3 years max.


Ugh. One of the many reasons that I've been bitching about this coaching search is that Schoen didn't go outside of his circle. Imo, it seems he had his 3 guys and Mara had his 3 guys. As someone pointed out today, only 1 of the 6 were offensive guys. If this doesn't work out, how is Schoen going to learn from it? That is why it is important to interview many different candidates. Go outside of your circle and reflect on which guys succeeded and which ones didn't. Then you can come up with a better understanding of what to look for the next time around. This is life. Schoen mentioned leaving no stone unturned on GMFB but I don't believe he did this with this search. I pray that Daboll works out.
Daboll  
Rambo : 1/28/2022 8:29 pm : link
is dogshit. Those drinking the free medium sized Pepsi = disappointed.
RE: RE: In the end, if he has a QB, he will get it done.  
M.S. : 1/28/2022 8:33 pm : link
In comment 15581207 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 15581162 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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If not, 3 years max.



Ugh. One of the many reasons that I've been bitching about this coaching search is that Schoen didn't go outside of his circle. Imo, it seems he had his 3 guys and Mara had his 3 guys. As someone pointed out today, only 1 of the 6 were offensive guys. If this doesn't work out, how is Schoen going to learn from it? That is why it is important to interview many different candidates. Go outside of your circle and reflect on which guys succeeded and which ones didn't. Then you can come up with a better understanding of what to look for the next time around. This is life. Schoen mentioned leaving no stone unturned on GMFB but I don't believe he did this with this search. I pray that Daboll works out.

Your point is well taken.

I'm pretty sure this upcoming season is gonna be rough sledding as Schoen and Daboll try to lay in a foundation to build upon. That usually does not translate into many wins in Year One.

It's gonna take a few seasons before we know whether or not Daboll works out.
Fire  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/28/2022 8:40 pm : link
Him.
...  
Mdgiantsfan : 1/28/2022 8:42 pm : link
Please add his QBs for each of those seasons for some addt'l context.
That makes it look like  
State Your Name : 1/28/2022 8:57 pm : link
He has been holding Josh Allen back
Personnel make a difference in any scheme.....  
Simms11 : 1/28/2022 9:02 pm : link
What did he have to work with?
Rambo  
Giant John : 1/28/2022 10:09 pm : link
Stop with the hating. Give the guy a chance. Damn man it’s his first day on the job. You do want him to succeed don’t you?
He had Brady Quinn for some of these seasons  
Lambuth_Special : 1/28/2022 11:09 pm : link
Surprised the point totals aren't even lower.
RE: Daboll  
uconngiant : 1/29/2022 1:43 am : link
In comment 15581210 Rambo said:
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is dogshit. Those drinking the free medium sized Pepsi = disappointed.



Go be a Dallas fan then. You are just another downer and typical fan on here
RE: Fire  
JinCO : 1/29/2022 2:05 am : link
In comment 15581236 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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Him.


Never let it be said you weren't the first BBIer to say that. Well done.
BBI is funny.....let's wait and see.  
George from PA : 1/29/2022 6:25 am : link
The Coordinators are key...as the position coaches especially oline.

Roster construction etc

I have been neutral.....I would have liked previous HC experience...I was leaning O minded. With that....I still am clueless to what makes a great HC...winning in NFL and winning big...Super Bowl big.
RE: BBI is funny.....let's wait and see.  
M.S. : 1/29/2022 6:43 am : link
In comment 15581704 George from PA said:
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The Coordinators are key...as the position coaches especially oline.

Roster construction etc

I have been neutral.....I would have liked previous HC experience...I was leaning O minded. With that....I still am clueless to what makes a great HC...winning in NFL and winning big...Super Bowl big.

I'm with you. I have no idea who will work at this point as Head Coach of the Giants. It's almost like I sorta wish we could have taken Brian Daboll with a little cloning of Brian Flores.
Those stats look good to me  
Steve L : 1/29/2022 6:53 am : link
Looks like he took his latest team and doubled its points production and wins in three years.

Why on earth is that bad?
RE: Those stats look good to me  
M.S. : 1/29/2022 7:06 am : link
In comment 15581718 Steve L said:
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Looks like he took his latest team and doubled its points production and wins in three years.

Why on earth is that bad?

I tend to agree with you -- Brian Daboll, as well as the entire Buffalo offense, got better and better over the past four years.

When I started this thread, I realized that these stats present a little bit of a "chicken and the egg" dilemma.

Clearly, our new Head Coach was the offensive coordinator on some very bad teams, so it is difficult to see how these teams would have put up a huge number of points per game.

On the other hand, had Daboll pulled a rabbit out of his hat and created an offense that generated a lot of points, then I suspect these terrible Won-Loss records would not look so terrible.

Double edged sword  
Jerry in_DC : 1/29/2022 8:28 am : link
His offenses with bad QBs have been bad. But he also has experience working with bad QBs, which will probably be useful this year.

Sometimes you get these guys who have been fast risers and worked almost exclusively with great QBs. Daboll has seen a lot of stuff- and hopefully learned along the way.

Or maybe he's not good...who knows.
What head coach is good  
ajr2456 : 1/29/2022 10:19 am : link
Without a good QB? Should probably list who his QBs were those years too.
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