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To me the most important part is the coordinators

eric2425ny : 1/28/2022 8:55 pm
If Daboll brings in a good OC and DC this team will be ok. If those decisions are poor we’ll be having this same discussion about a new coach in 2-3 years.

Shurmur picked a bad DC (Bettcher) and Judge had poor OC’s. If either had gotten those respective coordinators right we would probably be a team hovering around .500 or so.

Let’s hope Daboll can nab Dorsey and Martindale or Fangio and let’s get this thing back on track.
Bettcher on the surface (at the time) was a solid pick  
Big Blue '56 : 1/28/2022 8:57 pm : link
I thought he’d be very good, given how he did with the Cards..
that is true  
dancing blue bear : 1/28/2022 9:00 pm : link



i was encouraged that it was something Shane (sic) mentioned specifically. He said a good staff can net you an additional 2/3 games.


I would throw in OL coach too as being particularly vital hire

If they get this right, I truly believe the team could be contending for the last to WC spots next year (assuming average health....which I totally expect our S&T to be investigated and changed)
The key here will  
jvm52106 : 1/28/2022 9:01 pm : link
Be the coordinators in sync with the HC and HC with the GM.

So far so good. Now please go and get Dorsey and Martindale.
RE: The key here will  
Angel Eyes : 1/28/2022 9:02 pm : link
In comment 15581283 jvm52106 said:
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Be the coordinators in sync with the HC and HC with the GM.

So far so good. Now please go and get Dorsey and Martindale.

Can someone please remind me the connection between Daboll and Martindale?
I agree.  
Joe Beckwith : 1/28/2022 9:04 pm : link
What do Schoen, BD , and ownership envision for the organization identity , then get the coordinators and players to build it.
RE: RE: The key here will  
jvm52106 : 1/28/2022 9:04 pm : link
In comment 15581286 Angel Eyes said:
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In comment 15581283 jvm52106 said:


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Be the coordinators in sync with the HC and HC with the GM.

So far so good. Now please go and get Dorsey and Martindale.


Can someone please remind me the connection between Daboll and Martindale?


To be honest I do not know the connection but, they clearly are aware of each other.
I agree.  
Joe Beckwith : 1/28/2022 9:05 pm : link
What do Schoen, BD , and ownership envision for the organization identity , then get the coordinators and players to build it.
RE: RE: The key here will  
dancing blue bear : 1/28/2022 9:05 pm : link
In comment 15581286 Angel Eyes said:
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In comment 15581283 jvm52106 said:


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Be the coordinators in sync with the HC and HC with the GM.

So far so good. Now please go and get Dorsey and Martindale.


Can someone please remind me the connection between Daboll and Martindale?


I don't think there is one

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Cincinnati (1996–1998)
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Denver Broncos (2009)
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OC not as much  
Gmen88 : 1/28/2022 9:07 pm : link
considering it will be Daboll's offense and he'll be calling plays, but definitely important.
Daboll IS the OC  
Snablats : 1/28/2022 9:09 pm : link
Just like Reid in KC, McVay in LA, LaFleur in GB. Its the head coach's offense, he calls the plays
DC is key  
bluepepper : 1/28/2022 9:14 pm : link
Daboll will run the offense. Just needs a solid guy in that role. I'm sure he has a few guys on his list besides Dorsey. DC is the big one. If it's a vet great but if he and Schoen know a position coach ready to make the leap than that is OK with me. Don't force anybody on them.
RE: RE: The key here will  
myquealer : 1/28/2022 9:23 pm : link
In comment 15581286 Angel Eyes said:
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In comment 15581283 jvm52106 said:


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Be the coordinators in sync with the HC and HC with the GM.

So far so good. Now please go and get Dorsey and Martindale.


Can someone please remind me the connection between Daboll and Martindale?


Daboll is a big fan of old game shows?
You’re trying to be cute  
Debaser : 1/29/2022 6:10 am : link
NFL players , ex NFL players in a broadcast booth; executives all tell you it’s about execution execution execution. Yet here we are three years later if only we had these fancy offensive tricks up our sleeve like the colts and cowboys blah blah.

It’s a copycat league. I still have not seen much evidence that if Derrick Henry’s wasn’t rusty and tannehehill didn’t shit the bed that they could have just smash mouth football into the later rounds while cowboys and colts are hardly playoff material
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