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Derrick Ward: Belichick has heavy influence on NYG

Sean : 2/4/2022 9:46 pm
This is crazy to me, but not shocking. From all accounts, Belichick is very close to John Mara.
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Bill Belichick still “has the keys” to the Giants organization.

That’s according to former Giants running back Derrick Ward, who called into Chris “Mad Dog” Russo’s program on SiriusXM on Thursday afternoon. Ward talked about Brian Flores’ explosive discrimination lawsuit against the NFL which alleged his interview for the New York Giants was a sham.

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“Bill Belichick, I’m pretty sure he still has the keys to Giants Stadium. To this day,” Ward said.

“I agree with you,” Russo said. “He has too much [power]. They love him too much. You’re right about that. It’s ridiculous.”

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“He has a ton of power with the Giants,” Ward said. “He was dating somebody in the office when I was playing there. He still has a lot of pull in New York, which is pretty crazy to me.”

Belichick worked for the Giants from 1979-1990, winning two Super Bowls as a defensive coordinator under Bill Parcells. His recommendation led to the Giants hiring Joe Judge as their previous head coach.

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“I’m pretty sure”  
JoeyBigBlue : 2/4/2022 10:00 pm : link
Thanks for your opinion Derrick.
Yeah  
Straw Hat : 2/4/2022 10:01 pm : link
Im sure derrick really has his finger on the pulse of all things nyg in 2022.
John Mara wanted Flores  
gameday555 : 2/4/2022 10:06 pm : link
Right up until the end. This has been stated ad nauseam and I know I'm not saying anything new, but I can categorically confirm this from someone very much in the know. I've seldom posted any inside info here but when I have something I know to be true, I'll say it.

In all my conversations with this person I have never once heard BB's name mentioned.
A scam artist and a con man  
djstat : 2/4/2022 10:09 pm : link
Believe nothing ward says
so  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/4/2022 10:09 pm : link
what's the point here? That Belichick is the racist?
LOL, if there's one thing that's newsworthy,  
Mad Mike : 2/4/2022 10:09 pm : link
it's Derrick Ward's take on the inner workings of the front office of a team he last played for more than a decade ago.
No kidding  
jeff57 : 2/4/2022 10:10 pm : link
Two words: Joe Judge
Heck of a headline.  
an_idol_mind : 2/4/2022 10:25 pm : link
Keys to the stadium are different from keys to the organization.
Is Derrick Ward...  
bw in dc : 2/4/2022 10:26 pm : link
some "insider" guy I don't know about?
Even if he does  
Danny Kanell : 2/4/2022 10:39 pm : link
Who the fuck cares?
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Banks : 2/4/2022 10:39 pm : link
Ward is the guy best remembered for not being remembered when asked who are the teams with two thousand running backs. I highly doubt little Bill has much influence beyond Mara trusting him when asked a question. If he really is pulling the strings, f you for the past decade, Bill.
No shit  
Producer : 2/4/2022 10:48 pm : link
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Belichick is secretly running the Giants.  
an_idol_mind : 2/4/2022 10:49 pm : link
He just let them beat him in two Super Bowls as a smokescreen.
Well he’s not showing us how to cheat effectively.  
bceagle05 : 2/4/2022 10:51 pm : link
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Who cares if he does ?  
Andy in Boston : 2/4/2022 10:54 pm : link
I can think of worse things
I wasn't about to thank Belichick  
BlackLight : 2/4/2022 11:02 pm : link
for helping us beat the Patriots in those two Super Bowls, but I guess the facts speak for the, huh?
Tynes called Ward out  
Big Rick in FL : 2/4/2022 11:03 pm : link
Basically saying it isn't true
Seriously  
Bizfoodie : 2/5/2022 2:15 am : link
Not trying to be funny but I really notice around here people only believe the former giants who say what they like. Why is that? Is it so hard to not like something but it still be true? If Eli said the same thing would anybody argue?
Why is a backup player who played for the giants for 2 seasons  
montanagiant : 2/5/2022 2:40 am : link
Given any kind of cred involving his view and input regarding the relationship between the Giants and BB? Can it get anymore absurd?

RE: Seriously  
montanagiant : 2/5/2022 2:42 am : link
In comment 15594408 Bizfoodie said:
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Not trying to be funny but I really notice around here people only believe the former giants who say what they like. Why is that? Is it so hard to not like something but it still be true? If Eli said the same thing would anybody argue?

Because it's idiotic to have a player who was a back up and was only here for 2 years to have any realistic valid observation about any relationship between owners and anyone else
I’m pretty sure he still has the keys to Giants Stadium. To this day  
zxasqw12 : 2/5/2022 4:10 am : link

Giants Stadium, huh? That's nice. Is he displaying them on the fireplace mantle next to the clock in the living room?

There haven't been any doors for those keys to open for well over a decade.
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Go Terps : 2/5/2022 4:42 am : link
You guys don't see how this would be a problem?

The Giants are run by idiots that you wouldn't trust to run a sandwich shop.
So Russo  
noro9 : 2/5/2022 6:21 am : link
Who talks for a living knew this all along but waited for Ward to show up on his show before he said anything? Bullshit.
RE: .  
section125 : 2/5/2022 6:37 am : link
In comment 15594422 Go Terps said:
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You guys don't see how this would be a problem?

The Giants are run by idiots that you wouldn't trust to run a sandwich shop.


Why what would be a problem?

1.) That Ward thinks Belichick has that much influence in East Rutherford
2.) That anyone would believe a back up player that has been out of NYG for about a decade
3.) That Belichick has sent HC and coordinators to about 1/3 of the NFL
4.) That you say you are a Giants fan and continue to criticize even though you got your GM and HC
RE: RE: Seriously  
mattnyg05 : 2/5/2022 6:58 am : link
In comment 15594413 montanagiant said:
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In comment 15594408 Bizfoodie said:


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Not trying to be funny but I really notice around here people only believe the former giants who say what they like. Why is that? Is it so hard to not like something but it still be true? If Eli said the same thing would anybody argue?


Because it's idiotic to have a player who was a back up and was only here for 2 years to have any realistic valid observation about any relationship between owners and anyone else


He actually played 5 seasons here. Not that it matters-lots of insane off the field stuff with him. Not the best source of info obviously but he was here for a while.
The lady Belicheck was dating became his wife years ago  
George from PA : 2/5/2022 7:14 am : link
You can not make this stuff up
RE: Even if he does  
Big Blue '56 : 2/5/2022 7:58 am : link
In comment 15594288 Danny Kanell said:
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Who the fuck cares?


Exactly
RE: Is Derrick Ward...  
bluefin : 2/5/2022 8:12 am : link
In comment 15594266 bw in dc said:
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some "insider" guy I don't know about?

RE: The lady Belicheck was dating became his wife years ago  
NYGgolfer : 2/5/2022 8:22 am : link
In comment 15594453 George from PA said:
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You can not make this stuff up


Bad enough to gossip but at least get it correct. These are actually the facts.

Belichick married Debby Clarke in 1977, but they divorced in the summer of 2006. The couple have three children. They allegedly separated before the 2004 season. Belichick was accused of maintaining a relationship around that time with former Giants receptionist Sharon Shenocca, which helped precipitate her divorce.

Since 2007, Belichick has been in a relationship with Linda Holliday, who is the Executive Director of the Bill Belichick Foundation.

Not sure how any of the above connects to what Derrick Ward is trying to say here, but nevertheless.
RE: .  
an_idol_mind : 2/5/2022 8:47 am : link
In comment 15594422 Go Terps said:
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You guys don't see how this would be a problem?

The Giants are run by idiots that you wouldn't trust to run a sandwich shop.


I'm not saying it wouldn't be a problem. I'm saying it isn't true.
I don't think we have to worry if he still has the keys  
TommytheElephant : 2/5/2022 9:13 am : link
The stadium was knocked down
Reminds me of MTV  
ajr2456 : 2/5/2022 9:37 am : link
Having Ja Rule on for his thoughts on. 9/11
.....  
BrettNYG10 : 2/5/2022 9:59 am : link
A recent book on the Patriots says Belichick is a secret king maker in the NFL. One example cited was the Jaguars kept Marrone on BB's recommendation.
 
christian : 2/5/2022 10:03 am : link
Why would we care if the coach of another organization has a strong influence on Giants ownership?

Is that really a question that needs to be dignified with an answer?
If you read the texts carefully BB  
Essex : 2/5/2022 10:31 am : link
and take everything literally Flores is in intended recipient, not Daboll. He says he misread the text. The thought that Bellichick would want Flores to fail is kind of laughable given ever opportunity he gave Flores. I know Daboll worked for him, but it would seem BB was a lot closer to Flores than Daboll. So why would he try to influence the giants to take Daboll over Flores. It makes literally no logical sense unless there is something not public going on here.
The woman  
Carson53 : 2/5/2022 10:51 am : link
that BB is dating now is at least 20 years younger.
She is one of the those over 40 hotties, good for him.
FWIW apparently Ward  
Enzo : 2/5/2022 11:00 am : link
is somewhat of a sketchy character. IIRC, Jacobs and a couple of other ex-teammates had some sort of financial dispute a few years ago.
RE: .  
bw in dc : 2/5/2022 11:03 am : link
In comment 15594422 Go Terps said:
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You guys don't see how this would be a problem?

The Giants are run by idiots that you wouldn't trust to run a sandwich shop.


I agree this could be a problem.

But I'm shooting the messenger here - Derrick Ward.
Can we stop taking advice from him?  
Spiciest Memelord : 2/5/2022 11:10 am : link
He's sucked major ass for the last 10+ years.
BB still has the keys to Giants stadium?  
Section331 : 2/5/2022 11:14 am : link
That’ll do him about as much good as the keys to my 1987 Integra would do for me.
Is Ward saying that BB talked the Giants out of hiring Flores?  
GeofromNJ : 2/5/2022 11:26 am : link
If not, what's the point of saying BB has influence?
RE: The woman  
markky : 2/5/2022 11:29 am : link
In comment 15594650 Carson53 said:
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that BB is dating now is at least 20 years younger.
She is one of the those over 40 hotties, good for him.


10 years younger. She's 59, he's 69.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/5/2022 6:46 pm : link
No idea how credible Ward is, but I wouldn't be shocked to find out that this is accurate. I think both parties think highly of one another.
RE: Is Ward saying that BB talked the Giants out of hiring Flores?  
widmerseyebrow : 2/5/2022 6:52 pm : link
In comment 15594696 GeofromNJ said:
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If not, what's the point of saying BB has influence?


I mean, that's what Brian Flores has pivoted to: BB influenced the Giants into avoiding him. Why would he do that to a guy he probably helped to get the Dolphins job? I don't know.

It sounds like Ward is trying to support Flores' out-of-left-field contention with some superficial observations of his own from over a decade ago.
RE: Belichick is secretly running the Giants.  
Del Shofner : 2/5/2022 7:51 pm : link
In comment 15594302 an_idol_mind said:
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He just let them beat him in two Super Bowls as a smokescreen.


yeah, this is where I get off the wagon train too
Stance seems less credible  
Giants73 : 2/6/2022 1:37 pm : link
Given the fact that they are going back to a nobody RB, who never worked on the coaching or executive side to corroborate this claim. Get Armstead or Banks to back it up.
Chalk this up under ridiculous headlines/stories  
Matt M. : 2/6/2022 2:08 pm : link
I hope Flores' lawsuit doesn't hinge on this kind of information...well, I hope for his sake, not the Giants!
What does Ward have to gain by making things up?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/6/2022 2:12 pm : link
We already know Belichick has tremendous influence here. We know it. That how Judge got hired in the first place.

RE: What does Ward have to gain by making things up?  
Matt M. : 2/6/2022 2:18 pm : link
In comment 15595827 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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We already know Belichick has tremendous influence here. We know it. That how Judge got hired in the first place.
We don't know anything. We are not privy to what happened with Judge. Did Belichick call Mara? Did Mara call for a reference/opinion? Did neither happen?
RE: RE: What does Ward have to gain by making things up?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/6/2022 2:33 pm : link
In comment 15595832 Matt M. said:
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In comment 15595827 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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We already know Belichick has tremendous influence here. We know it. That how Judge got hired in the first place.


We don't know anything. We are not privy to what happened with Judge. Did Belichick call Mara? Did Mara call for a reference/opinion? Did neither happen?


We know the Giants were in Foxboro that offeason, allegedly to interview McDaniels and Patricia.

https://www.northjersey.com/story/sports/nfl/giants/2018/01/05/giants-foxboro-interview-pats-mcdaniels-and-patricia-but-what-their-boss/1007249001/

They came away from that meeting with the conclusion to hire Judge.

Someone would have to show me written proof that the Giants had Joe Judge, career special teams coach and general no-name on their list and Belichick had no influence on that. Mara absolutely consulted with someone he holds in high regard to identify a coaching prospect.
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