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Giants sign OL Jamil Douglas

Saos1n : 3/18/2022 9:24 pm
Per Raanan
On the Bills for part of last year  
jeffro1 : 3/18/2022 9:26 pm : link
30 years old with 11 career starts…
Another Bills castoff  
Giants73 : 3/18/2022 9:29 pm : link
How many crappy online men is this guy gonna sign? Could have gotten Bozeman for the amount he spent on 4 sh!t linemen.
camp  
MotownGIANTS : 3/18/2022 9:31 pm : link
body to help teach the new OL system
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/18/2022 9:31 pm : link
'Mitchell Friedman?'

In all seriousness...no clue who this dude is, but I'd bet he's better than the dudes we've been trotting out of late.
RE: Another Bills castoff  
Ben in Tampa : 3/18/2022 9:32 pm : link
In comment 15637231 Giants73 said:
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How many crappy online men is this guy gonna sign? Could have gotten Bozeman for the amount he spent on 4 sh!t linemen.


Relax

Depth is a problem too

RE: Another Bills castoff  
BillT : 3/18/2022 9:33 pm : link
In comment 15637231 Giants73 said:
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How many crappy online men is this guy gonna sign? Could have gotten Bozeman for the amount he spent on 4 sh!t linemen.

Cuz we need four OLs not one. Just saying.
they are out of $ until a bigger move gets made  
Eric on Li : 3/18/2022 9:36 pm : link
and even then the $ is probably going to go towards the draft class.

they may have 2 or 3 signings left above the minimum but probably not many more than that.

OTC updated most of the contracts (except cutting logan ryan and RSJ) and they have the top 51 around 2m under the cap. this move is likely at the minimum and won't impact that.

but they are right around 60 contracts, with at least 25 of the remaining 30 probably coming from the draft.
RE: Another Bills castoff  
Keaton028 : 3/18/2022 9:50 pm : link
In comment 15637231 Giants73 said:
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How many crappy online men is this guy gonna sign? Could have gotten Bozeman for the amount he spent on 4 sh!t linemen.


Haha what a tool you are. Yup. All of the lineman Schoen has signed have been crappy. Ok bud. The Giants were never going to be big players in Free Agency this year, and most of the stopgaps Schoen has signed have been one to two year deals as he figure out how to unload DG’s horrid contracts. If you expect the Giants to field a winning squad this year, I got bad news for you. This is how you tear down the old rot before you can truly rebuild.
BBI: Stop neglecting the O-line!!!!  
81_Great_Dane : 3/18/2022 9:56 pm : link
Also BBI: Your O-line depth signings suck!!!
RE: they are out of $ until a bigger move gets made  
Snablats : 3/18/2022 9:58 pm : link
In comment 15637237 Eric on Li said:
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and even then the $ is probably going to go towards the draft class.

they may have 2 or 3 signings left above the minimum but probably not many more than that.

OTC updated most of the contracts (except cutting logan ryan and RSJ) and they have the top 51 around 2m under the cap. this move is likely at the minimum and won't impact that.

but they are right around 60 contracts, with at least 25 of the remaining 30 probably coming from the draft.

They dont need to sign the draft class until the end of July, so I would think they make some kind of cap move before then to have room to sign someone they want
A lot of what DG said aged very quickly quite poorly  
NoGainDayne : 3/18/2022 10:01 pm : link
I think the we like our guys about the OL may prove to be the statement I've seen age so poorly so quickly in all of sports.

Even strapped for cash we are signing so many people on the OL it's nuts.

The OL was so bad, a lot of us saw it but for some completely unknown reason we liked those players. It's really mind boggling
no disagreement with this  
Eric on Li : 3/18/2022 10:09 pm : link
In comment 15637252 Snablats said:
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They dont need to sign the draft class until the end of July, so I would think they make some kind of cap move before then to have room to sign someone they want


i'd imagine they will make moves over the next month / draft. Bradberry trade is certainly leader in the clubhouse, but there are others they could make.

i just think until that move happens they will likely be in the veteran's minimum aisle. their priority moves were the ones they made and they probably won't know where to spend their remaining $ until after they see who they draft.
Schoen just one upped the Browns.  
Blue Dream : 3/18/2022 10:10 pm : link
See you in Arizona in Febuary!!
He has been in league all this time?  
George from PA : 3/18/2022 10:13 pm : link
Crappy cast off usually do not last until they are 30 years old in the NFL.

Might not be a starter but depth is almost as important.....the way they get injured.

Still like the familiarity of the coaches and players.....known quantities is important.....better than bad surprises.
Buffalo East  
Essex : 3/18/2022 10:23 pm : link

Can’t believe  
Pepe LePugh : 3/18/2022 10:33 pm : link
this is drawing so much reaction. Every year there’s a dozen signings like this: experienced player at or near vet minimum. You’re bringing 90 players into camp. Not all are expected to start, or even be around by the start of the regular season. Chill out.
Good chance we draft 2 olinemen in the first 4 rounds  
Payasdaddy : 3/18/2022 10:34 pm : link
So I am not too worried about someone who may be our 8 olineman at best
We need bodies
At least we don’t have to hear “ don’t sleep on PIO” from the ignoramous
I'm continuously amazed  
gmenrule : 3/18/2022 10:35 pm : link
at the stupidity of some posters on this site. You can't buy caviar on a PBJ budget. Gotta fix the budget first !!! Gonna take at least two years. Go find another team to root for.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/18/2022 10:36 pm : link

Art Stapleton

@art_stapleton

Giants have agreed to terms with veteran guard Jamil Douglas on a one-year deal.

Douglas, 30, spent time in Buffalo with Brian Daboll and OL coach Bobby Johnson. Was signed by Washington off PS late last year.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/18/2022 10:37 pm : link

Paul Schwartz

@NYPost_Schwartz

Giants have signed another offensive lineman, Jamil Douglas. Well-traveled 30-year old guard/center was mostly a backup in his career. Spent most of last season on the Bills practice squad.
RE: I'm continuously amazed  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/18/2022 10:39 pm : link
In comment 15637280 gmenrule said:
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at the stupidity of some posters on this site. You can't buy caviar on a PBJ budget. Gotta fix the budget first !!! Gonna take at least two years. Go find another team to root for.


It's one guy. He can't seem to get the picture.



Sy'56's old 2015 write-up on him  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/18/2022 10:52 pm : link
6 – Jamil Douglas – Arizona State – 6’4/304 – 77

Upside Pro Comparison: TJ Lang/GB

Strong Points: Gifted tool set with top tier strength numbers. Has a long, lean frame. Able to bend at the knees and sustain good balance and body control. Plays a violent game with his upper body. Goes after the defender, consistently initiating contact and delivering a strong punch. Can keep his feet moving to mirror defenders. Able to stick to his man up and down the pocket. Can crash down and reach the inside gaps in a blink. Shows good quickness while maintaining his balance. Hustles downfield and will look to make the extra block. Easy mover in space, very good speed and change of direction. Can pull out of his stance and accelerate to lead block. Powerful presence on the move. Works hard to sustain and finish his blocks.

Weak Points: Will get sloppy with technique the further from the line he gets. Spends too much time with his chest facing the ground. Needs to be more consistent with posture and body positioning. Late to react to blitzes and stunts, needs to be more aware. Will often rely too much on his upper body, leaving him prone to the double move and penalties.

Summary: Fifth year senior. Spent two years playing guard, but moved to left tackle in 2014. Most likely a guard in the NFL. Douglas is one of the more impressive linemen in the nation when it comes to workouts and tools. He has great length but is a monster in the weight room and has elite level speed for the position. He has shown steady improvement from a skill set perspective and is beginning to prove that he has everything a coach could want out of a guard in the NFL. If he can clean up specific technique issues, he can be a long term starter.

*Douglas is a better athlete than what he showed at the combine. I actually think he is one of the top athletes among all OL prospects. I love the position versatility he presents. He has both the skills and tools to be a guy that backs up guards and tackles early in his career but I think his talent will eventually shine bright enough to get him a starting nod somewhere. Quality player that plays hard and has the aggression NYG needs in there.
great job sy - not many day 3 picks stick in the league 5+ years  
Eric on Li : 3/18/2022 11:15 pm : link
so it seems like your reports being relatively high on these guys seem like they were ahead of the curve. very impressive.
right now  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/18/2022 11:17 pm : link
this guy is probably our back-up center.
brief  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/18/2022 11:20 pm : link
overview on front page...


New York Giants Sign Jamil Douglas - ( New Window )
Fine depth signing  
illmatic : 3/18/2022 11:33 pm : link
Considering they have no money to work with and they’re in desperate need of help on the OL. Daboll and Schoen must have seen a little something in him.
New coaches and GMs  
Giantimistic : 3/18/2022 11:34 pm : link
almost always turn to players they know. Sometimes it is for what they bring as a player and other times there are additional considerations like knowing the system already or being a culture builder in the way the coach wants to head.

After 2 years, many of these players fade away.
…..  
Micko : 3/18/2022 11:52 pm : link
Great signing. Still gives all of our other shitty o-lineman a chance to compete for the starting job!
RE: Another Bills castoff  
montanagiant : 3/19/2022 3:18 am : link
In comment 15637231 Giants73 said:
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How many crappy online men is this guy gonna sign? Could have gotten Bozeman for the amount he spent on 4 sh!t linemen.

You do realize I hope that part of a functioning offense is having depth at positions
RE: RE: Another Bills castoff  
NoGainDayne : 3/19/2022 3:31 am : link
In comment 15637347 montanagiant said:
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In comment 15637231 Giants73 said:


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How many crappy online men is this guy gonna sign? Could have gotten Bozeman for the amount he spent on 4 sh!t linemen.


You do realize I hope that part of a functioning offense is having depth at positions


Shhhh you are going to hurt his brain. Grabbing a starter from a very strong Colts line with a runner that led the NFL in yards makes you a shit lineman in his book. Probably grabbed at least one more starter out of the 4 “shit” bunch. So it’s not even just depth but depth is important as well. You’d think anyone who watched the Giants play last year would be happy about this. But hey, people on BBI were talking about Bozeman a lot so the Giants must have their heads in their asses if they didn’t get that guy
Sy, Thanks.....that is one hell of a right up.  
George from PA : 3/19/2022 5:18 am : link
Granted, after 7 years in the league.....his NFL career speak for its self.


Sounds like a very qualified backup. But like nasty and athletic
Eric thanks for  
section125 : 3/19/2022 6:13 am : link
posting Sy's write up. Looks like he has a very good chance at a reserve lineman position, and that is no small matter as we saw last year.
More vet minimum players - likely gets the vet discount vs the CAP.
Seems  
Toth029 : 3/19/2022 6:32 am : link
Like he's struggled lately if you went by grades. But if he is strictly depth and doesn't start, it's no harm.
Watching from my nose bleed seats.  
Maijay : 3/19/2022 6:34 am : link
I'm sick of our running backs getting hit in the backfield on almost every running play. In the passing game, more often than not the WR's were being sit on by most teams DB's just daring any of our QB's to throw long.
The OL is a joke and we all know it. We hope and pray that the current GM and staff know what their doing picking up these free agent offensive linemen. Our team has an immense dearth of talent up and down the roster. No doubt we are in a total rebuild and when the team becomes a viable playoff contender is beyond me.
I was seriously thinking about giving up my season seats because leaving that wretched stadium depressed about witnessing horrid football was mind numbing. However, I'm optimistic that our current staff will lead us out of the football wilderness. I hope and go Giants.
RE: A lot of what DG said aged very quickly quite poorly  
FStubbs : 3/19/2022 9:02 am : link
In comment 15637256 NoGainDayne said:
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I think the we like our guys about the OL may prove to be the statement I've seen age so poorly so quickly in all of sports.

Even strapped for cash we are signing so many people on the OL it's nuts.

The OL was so bad, a lot of us saw it but for some completely unknown reason we liked those players. It's really mind boggling


What Schoen is doing lines up with what that one scout said that the Giants had the worst offensive line he had seen for any team in literally decades.

Get any warm body you can because it can't get any worse.
Schoen has a plan. He’s rebuilding depth to start with.  
Big Blue '56 : 3/19/2022 9:40 am : link
Life is good.
RE: Sy, Thanks.....that is one hell of a right up.  
Beer Man : 3/19/2022 9:48 am : link
In comment 15637354 George from PA said:
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Granted, after 7 years in the league.....his NFL career speak for its self.


Sounds like a very qualified backup. But like nasty and athletic
Write-on!
I’m sure Schoen, Daboll and Johnson  
Simms11 : 3/19/2022 9:52 am : link
all know his capabilities and probably believe he can compete and perhaps add solid depth. We have a limited budget #1, secondly I don’t see the Giants spending big money right now anyway, even if they had it. The team is being built now and depth is required too. We’re still extremely thin at a number of positions.
Hey we could sign Buffalo Bill next, oh boy is this great  
gtt350 : 3/19/2022 10:28 am : link
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I lot of people getting awfully defensive  
Festina Lente : 3/19/2022 10:34 am : link
About criticism for signing another scrub lineman. Getting dejavu about DG defenders when he was new. It's okay to have wanted to allocate the funds to one or two longer term good players instead of Bills castoffs.
RE: BBI: Stop neglecting the O-line!!!!  
BigBlueinDE : 3/19/2022 10:48 am : link
In comment 15637250 81_Great_Dane said:
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Also BBI: Your O-line depth signings suck!!!


+1
I wish the Giants could have added  
Jay on the Island : 3/19/2022 11:08 am : link
G/C Ryan Bates or G Ike Boettger.
RE: I wish the Giants could have added  
Eric on Li : 3/19/2022 11:53 am : link
In comment 15637587 Jay on the Island said:
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G/C Ryan Bates or G Ike Boettger.


Bates took a visit to Minnesota and if he signs an offer sheet there my guess is that it's close to what Glowinski got. Anything lower and i'd guess the Bills match, and they may even match that.

Boettger i think may still be on the table, he may be waiting to sign until he can pass a physical. After the draft i expect they will circle back to some players like Boettger to fill in areas they don't address in the draft.

RE: RE: I wish the Giants could have added  
Jay on the Island : 3/19/2022 12:14 pm : link
In comment 15637638 Eric on Li said:
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Bates took a visit to Minnesota and if he signs an offer sheet there my guess is that it's close to what Glowinski got. Anything lower and i'd guess the Bills match, and they may even match that.

Bates is now meeting with the Patriots and then the Bears after that. He is exactly the type of little known OL that the Patriots sign that turns into a great player for them.
if he's visiting 3 teams though he's likely gonna get paid  
Eric on Li : 3/19/2022 12:16 pm : link
i presume if schoen/daboll liked him better than glowinski they would have pursued him instead. same with d. williams.
We  
AcidTest : 3/19/2022 12:31 pm : link
shopping in the "bargain bin." People need to get used to it. That's where we are because of the bloated, stupid, contracts DG gave to so many players.
RE: if he's visiting 3 teams though he's likely gonna get paid  
Jay on the Island : 3/19/2022 12:33 pm : link
In comment 15637663 Eric on Li said:
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i presume if schoen/daboll liked him better than glowinski they would have pursued him instead. same with d. williams.

Yea once they signed Glowinski I knew there was no shot of landing abates. Boettger might be in play still due to his injury.
RE: Another Bills castoff  
Rory : 3/19/2022 12:35 pm : link
In comment 15637231 Giants73 said:
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How many crappy online men is this guy gonna sign? Could have gotten Bozeman for the amount he spent on 4 sh!t linemen.


You are not very bright are you?
RE: Another Bills castoff  
sb from NYT Forum : 3/19/2022 12:36 pm : link
In comment 15637231 Giants73 said:
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How many crappy online men is this guy gonna sign? Could have gotten Bozeman for the amount he spent on 4 sh!t linemen.


Seriously shut the F up. Would you rather he bust next year's cap on big name/big ticket OL? What possibly could go wrong with that?
RE: Another Bills castoff  
DonQuixote : 3/19/2022 12:47 pm : link
In comment 15637231 Giants73 said:
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How many crappy online men is this guy gonna sign? Could have gotten Bozeman for the amount he spent on 4 sh!t linemen.


Because we can’t afford what the starting guys would cost on these better teams.
RE: right now  
Ivan15 : 3/19/2022 12:53 pm : link
In comment 15637293 Eric from BBI said:
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this guy is probably our back-up center.


Backup to a starter who has minimal experience at center.
RE: Seems  
Ivan15 : 3/19/2022 1:01 pm : link
In comment 15637367 Toth029 said:
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Like he's struggled lately if you went by grades. But if he is strictly depth and doesn't start, it's no harm.


By signing guys Shoen/Daboll/Johnson have some connection with, at least the Giants can be more confident that they won’t retire after the 1st minicamp.
We are just exchanging bums for bums at this point  
PatersonPlank : 3/19/2022 1:30 pm : link
I hope they are at least cheaper bums
RE: RE: Seems  
Toth029 : 3/19/2022 2:49 pm : link
In comment 15637701 Ivan15 said:
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In comment 15637367 Toth029 said:


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Like he's struggled lately if you went by grades. But if he is strictly depth and doesn't start, it's no harm.



By signing guys Shoen/Daboll/Johnson have some connection with, at least the Giants can be more confident that they won’t retire after the 1st minicamp.


This is true.
The one year contract bozeman  
Giants73 : 3/19/2022 3:15 pm : link
Signed with the Panthers for about the same money as the sh!t Schoen brought in would have broke the bank. How does his junk taste because it seems like the majority of you are sharing it?
RE: The one year contract bozeman  
BigBlueShock : 3/19/2022 4:05 pm : link
In comment 15637811 Giants73 said:
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Signed with the Panthers for about the same money as the sh!t Schoen brought in would have broke the bank. How does his junk taste because it seems like the majority of you are sharing it?

Just admit it, you had never heard of Bozeman in your entire pathetic life until a week ago. Eh, no need to admit it really. You’ll lie anyways.
RE: RE: The one year contract bozeman  
Giants73 : 3/19/2022 4:56 pm : link
In comment 15637831 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 15637811 Giants73 said:


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Signed with the Panthers for about the same money as the sh!t Schoen brought in would have broke the bank. How does his junk taste because it seems like the majority of you are sharing it?


Just admit it, you had never heard of Bozeman in your entire pathetic life until a week ago. Eh, no need to admit it really. You’ll lie anyways.


Everyone on the board is not as clueless as yourself BigBlue, why don’t you go back to the other thread and continue to get bitched by Producer.
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