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adamg : 3/22/2022 10:07 am
LFGK!!!!

Fuck Trae Young!
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RE: Seriously though  
bceagle05 : 3/22/2022 11:17 pm : link
In comment 15641606 Anakim said:
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How can Thibs' job be safe?

Leon’s proven to be a bit conservative so far. That’s all I got.
RE: RE: Seriously though  
nygiants16 : 3/22/2022 11:40 pm : link
In comment 15641611 bceagle05 said:
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In comment 15641606 Anakim said:


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How can Thibs' job be safe?


Leon’s proven to be a bit conservative so far. That’s all I got.


Have to wonder if he gets pressure from others in the front office or even some of the players
Trae Young has taken on the role once held by Reggie Miller as the  
Ira : 3/23/2022 7:01 am : link
official Knicks tormentor.
RE: It’s incredible that a 2022 NBA roster  
Mike in NJ : 3/23/2022 7:45 am : link
In comment 15641600 bceagle05 said:
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includes Mitch, Noel, Taj and Sims. We’re cornering the market on old-school bigs.


It was obvious again last night how badly this team needs a center that can stretch the floor. Watching RJ repeatedly get to the rim only to be met by the brick wall of Capela or Okongwu was frustrating. I know they only had 2 blocks, but RJ forced up a lot of bad shots at the rim trying to shoot over them. He also needs to learn to kick the ball out in those situations rather than throw up a prayer hoping to get bailed out by the officials.
Zion post a video of him dunking  
nygiants16 : 3/23/2022 7:58 am : link
Going between the legs, looks in pretty good shape, but he did it the day after they announced he was shut down..

Reminds me of when Porzingis posted the picture of him running after Knicks said he wasnt
There is a way to build  
nygiants16 : 3/23/2022 8:08 am : link
a team with a center who is just a rebounder, defender and limited offensive game..

I really dont want to give Mitch 12 to 15 million a year, 10 or 11, no problem..

If you are building with Rj, first off you need to find another legit scorer next to him, preferably someone who can shoot and play off Rj whrn Rj has the ball..

second you need shooters around him, guys who can spread the floor and guys who dont demand isos for themselves. Guys willing to play defense and get 5 to 7 shots a game..

Third if you are going to keep Mitch, the guy playing the 4 needs to be a shooter or a guy like Obi who the defender always needs to account for because you lose him, he is going back door on you..
The Knicks  
JohninSC : 3/23/2022 10:27 am : link
are just a badly constructed roster. That's on management. The coach is ancient and needs to be replaced.

And those thinking RJ hasn't progressed simply doesn't watch enough Knicks games.
Just so much clutter on the roster.  
bceagle05 : 3/23/2022 11:51 am : link
Kemba's obviously a goner and possibly Mitch too, but everyone else is under contract through at least next season - plus Cam has been added to the mix and there's a lottery pick and (possibly) Rokas still to come. I think there's an option on Taj but if Thibs is staying....
Randle doubtful tonight  
nygiants16 : 3/23/2022 1:22 pm : link
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Roster  
TyreeHelmet : 3/23/2022 2:29 pm : link
This roster has been so poorly constructed its actually impressive how little flack this front office is taking. Outside of IQ and Grimes which can be debated how good those picks really are, their moves have not only been not helpful, they have actually hurt the Knicks this season and moving forward.

Maybe they turn it around this offseason but nothing Leon Rose has done the last 2 seasons has given me any hope they know how to build a good NBA team.

Lets hope they get lucky in the lottery. They need it.
RE: Roster  
nygiants16 : 3/23/2022 2:30 pm : link
In comment 15642407 TyreeHelmet said:
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This roster has been so poorly constructed its actually impressive how little flack this front office is taking. Outside of IQ and Grimes which can be debated how good those picks really are, their moves have not only been not helpful, they have actually hurt the Knicks this season and moving forward.

Maybe they turn it around this offseason but nothing Leon Rose has done the last 2 seasons has given me any hope they know how to build a good NBA team.

Lets hope they get lucky in the lottery. They need it.


Nothing?
I think Leon's done some good things  
bceagle05 : 3/23/2022 3:07 pm : link
but I'm definitely a little concerned about this summer. Lot of BIG decisions - Thibs, Randle, RJ, Mitch, 10th pick, possible Brunson pursuit, etc. - and we have a pretty inexperienced front office making these calls (or experienced but mediocre, in Scott Perry's case). Hopefully Gersson Rosas is given a say and he talks some sense into people.
RE: RE: Roster  
TyreeHelmet : 3/23/2022 3:48 pm : link
In comment 15642410 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 15642407 TyreeHelmet said:


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This roster has been so poorly constructed its actually impressive how little flack this front office is taking. Outside of IQ and Grimes which can be debated how good those picks really are, their moves have not only been not helpful, they have actually hurt the Knicks this season and moving forward.

Maybe they turn it around this offseason but nothing Leon Rose has done the last 2 seasons has given me any hope they know how to build a good NBA team.

Lets hope they get lucky in the lottery. They need it.



Nothing?


Just my opinion but yes little to nothing. I think most GMs would have fared better given the cap space and picks Leon Rose had the last 2 seasons.

I'm not going to relitigate each move but I'm still waiting for a move from this front office to truly impress me.
I don't think the front office has done well  
Jan in DC : 3/23/2022 3:50 pm : link
outside of picking at the end of the draft. They've been able to find some nice end of the rotation players, but they whiffed on Obi, their FA was not good and it feels like they're more interested in compiling 2nd rounders than taking a swing.

At some point they have to be aggressive and try to make a move instead of treading water with a sub-par roster that overachieved last year and make moves.
RE: RE: RE: Roster  
Mike in NJ : 3/23/2022 3:52 pm : link
In comment 15642515 TyreeHelmet said:
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In comment 15642410 nygiants16 said:


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In comment 15642407 TyreeHelmet said:


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This roster has been so poorly constructed its actually impressive how little flack this front office is taking. Outside of IQ and Grimes which can be debated how good those picks really are, their moves have not only been not helpful, they have actually hurt the Knicks this season and moving forward.

Maybe they turn it around this offseason but nothing Leon Rose has done the last 2 seasons has given me any hope they know how to build a good NBA team.

Lets hope they get lucky in the lottery. They need it.



Nothing?



Just my opinion but yes little to nothing. I think most GMs would have fared better given the cap space and picks Leon Rose had the last 2 seasons.

I'm not going to relitigate each move but I'm still waiting for a move from this front office to truly impress me.


I think I would agree that Rose hasn't done anything to show that he knows how to build a winning team. Pretty much all he's shown at this point is that he knows how to not take the big risk, trying to keep his options open until a star falls into his lap. He's like a poker player that just folds every hand waiting until he gets dealt pocket aces.
Being aggressive at the right time is important  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/23/2022 3:54 pm : link
I dont want them to be aggressive and sell out for an aging Lillard or Beal.

Zion situation has to play itself out. Maybe Mitchell. Who else is out there to be had realistically without re-enactment of the Melo trade that carpet bombed the roster? One team wanting to be aggressive doesn't make a trade.
RE: RE: RE: Roster  
nygiants16 : 3/23/2022 3:58 pm : link
In comment 15642515 TyreeHelmet said:
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In comment 15642410 nygiants16 said:


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In comment 15642407 TyreeHelmet said:


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This roster has been so poorly constructed its actually impressive how little flack this front office is taking. Outside of IQ and Grimes which can be debated how good those picks really are, their moves have not only been not helpful, they have actually hurt the Knicks this season and moving forward.

Maybe they turn it around this offseason but nothing Leon Rose has done the last 2 seasons has given me any hope they know how to build a good NBA team.

Lets hope they get lucky in the lottery. They need it.



Nothing?



Just my opinion but yes little to nothing. I think most GMs would have fared better given the cap space and picks Leon Rose had the last 2 seasons.

I'm not going to relitigate each move but I'm still waiting for a move from this front office to truly impress me.


derrick rose trade?
RE: RE: RE: RE: Roster  
TyreeHelmet : 3/23/2022 4:52 pm : link
In comment 15642529 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 15642515 TyreeHelmet said:


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In comment 15642410 nygiants16 said:


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In comment 15642407 TyreeHelmet said:


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This roster has been so poorly constructed its actually impressive how little flack this front office is taking. Outside of IQ and Grimes which can be debated how good those picks really are, their moves have not only been not helpful, they have actually hurt the Knicks this season and moving forward.

Maybe they turn it around this offseason but nothing Leon Rose has done the last 2 seasons has given me any hope they know how to build a good NBA team.

Lets hope they get lucky in the lottery. They need it.



Nothing?



Just my opinion but yes little to nothing. I think most GMs would have fared better given the cap space and picks Leon Rose had the last 2 seasons.

I'm not going to relitigate each move but I'm still waiting for a move from this front office to truly impress me.



derrick rose trade?


Good trade for sure. But that driving force had to be Thibs. And even if it wasn't, that's the most impressive move in 2 years flush with cap space and picks?

He's made a lot more bad moves than good moves. I personally don't think that's debatable.
Wes has known Rose since high school  
nygiants16 : 3/23/2022 5:18 pm : link
so who knows..

Signing burks, Noel to 1 year deals before last year?..

Drafting Quick and Grimes looks good..

I am not saying Rose has done a great job, i am just waiting for his big move before i judge him..This is a big offseason for me
for him lol  
nygiants16 : 3/23/2022 5:18 pm : link
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Randle and Mitch both out  
nygiants16 : 3/23/2022 5:42 pm : link
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Sims starting  
nygiants16 : 3/23/2022 6:23 pm : link
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Bummed no Ja tonight for Grizz vs. Nets.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/23/2022 6:58 pm : link
He's so fun to watch.
RE: Sims starting  
Del Shofner : 3/23/2022 7:22 pm : link
In comment 15642663 nygiants16 said:
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Looking OK so far.
Lamelo is damn good  
nygiants16 : 3/23/2022 7:23 pm : link
but he is to loose on the court, its stupid, but he looks like he is in a rec game
Offense looks so much better  
nygiants16 : 3/23/2022 7:26 pm : link
so much better ball movement with no Randle
This is what life could be like.  
bceagle05 : 3/23/2022 7:30 pm : link
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IQ!  
adamg : 3/23/2022 7:31 pm : link
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I am telling you with Obi  
nygiants16 : 3/23/2022 7:34 pm : link
give him minutes and he will produce
Taj with the dagger  
adamg : 3/23/2022 7:35 pm : link
lol
Move Randle.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/23/2022 7:43 pm : link
& let Obi take his place.
PACE  
adamg : 3/23/2022 7:43 pm : link
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DEUCE!  
adamg : 3/23/2022 7:45 pm : link
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Team falls in love with the 3 way to much  
nygiants16 : 3/23/2022 7:45 pm : link
you can see why they give up leads
The passing is ridiculous  
adamg : 3/23/2022 7:46 pm : link
Less Burks and JR iso
I've seen enough of the Hornets this season...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/23/2022 7:46 pm : link
I'd be floored if the Hawks don't beat them in the 9-10 play in game if the current standings hold.
RE: The passing is ridiculous  
nygiants16 : 3/23/2022 7:50 pm : link
In comment 15642772 adamg said:
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Less Burks and JR iso


you dont have Randle literally posting up every play stopping the team from moving the ball
18 assists on 24 made shots  
adamg : 3/23/2022 7:58 pm : link
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Horrendous close to the half.  
bceagle05 : 3/23/2022 8:01 pm : link
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Burks got fucked over  
adamg : 3/23/2022 8:01 pm : link
What a bad cal
Thibs should have challenged that  
adamg : 3/23/2022 8:02 pm : link
that was a three point play
Bridges grabs Burks arm  
nygiants16 : 3/23/2022 8:03 pm : link
and the ref calls an offenskve foul haha

If i was an NBA player i would hate playing for Thibs, not because he is tough coach but becauae he is literally flapping his arms, screaming and cursing at you after every single mistake..
Bring in Deuce and IQ!  
adamg : 3/23/2022 8:21 pm : link
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RE: Bring in Deuce and IQ!  
nygiants16 : 3/23/2022 8:21 pm : link
In comment 15642804 adamg said:
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He will, to start the 4th
Hey Thibs  
nygiants16 : 3/23/2022 8:27 pm : link
Fournier doesnt have it, take him out..Burks is getting killed defensively, take him out
These CHA announcers are fucking god awful  
adamg : 3/23/2022 8:28 pm : link
Yelling after every basket like he just shot a load. Real amateur shit
Feed RJ  
adamg : 3/23/2022 8:32 pm : link
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LaMelo is really good  
adamg : 3/23/2022 8:35 pm : link
Fucking eh
Fucking eh  
adamg : 3/23/2022 8:39 pm : link
Come on grimes
Ball with two quick fouls to get to 4  
adamg : 3/23/2022 8:41 pm : link
bad coaching there
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