I don’t know what his value is, but I just don’t see this ending well. After all the drama of last season plus the durability concerns, for him not to show up yesterday is frustrating.
I’d call up Kansas City and see what they would offer. Toney and a bad team concerns me. I never loved the pick, it felt forced to try to bring in weapons for Jones. I think it is worth looking into.
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... We really know very little about this guy.
Whole lot of emotions going on right now.
The emotions are from the superfans who want to believe our players are way better than they actually are.
OK.
Thanks.
No problem. For someone who is as wrong as often as you are it's presumptuous to accuse other people of being emotional.
I'm sorry, I've been wrong?
You're mistaken.
No, he's not. You have been a league leader in wrong.
At least you have stuck around to see the mess left behind from all the bad decisions that you likely felt were good ones. More than I can say for some others...
Changing the names and faces in the front office and sideline is a good start but they still have to shed all the crap that has been left behind with this roster. Maybe the guy in the OP is shit or he actually gets his shit together and becomes something. Until that happens, he is still Gettleman's pick.
So don't ask why posters are still talking about Getts, Abrams, the past 4 years, etc. Rome is still burning in case some of you chuckleheads are missing this...
Because acting like every player brought in by DG is a team cancer or dead weight is nothing short of fucking dumb.
I guess we should cut our losses now before these malcontent, dead weight losers corrupt the team even more:
Andrew Thomas
Julian Love
Azeez Ojulari
Xavier McKinney
Not everything is so black and white.
But you knew that already...
Also, it's time to move on from DG. I know it pains you all, but try it out. Move on. Try it for one day.
Resentment for Rabbit Foot Dave about a roster Dave largely assembled is absolutely fair game.
Kid’s too legit to quite on.
Y’all smoking some illy kind. Trade him? Let the Yung one ball!
A fun player to watch when he is "on" but that style of play(like Saquon) requires a lot of cutting, juking, jumping over folks and that has a halflife of 2 seasons at best
Kid’s too legit to quite on.
Y’all smoking some illy kind. Trade him? Let the Yung one ball!
What the fuck is this?
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The league says this is voluntary. The team says this is voluntary. The coach says this is voluntary. The contract says this is voluntary.
If you want something done, put it in writing.
Voluntary but not voluntary unwritten rules aren't professionalism. It's like playing the "I don't want a gift for my birthday" wife game.
If you want to hold people to a standard, then put the standard in black and white on paper. This is true for everything in the professional world from the board room to legal to manufacturing quality.
Toney is well within his rights not to show up at a voluntary workout, but for a guy who had all kinds of issues finding his way onto the field last summer, and then during the regular season, you can at least understand why some people would question his motivation, can't you?
He's 23 with no wife and no family - I'm sure his calendar is booked solid all thru the spring.
Who knows. We don't know. Players have different family situations. Does he not have a kid? Or any family whatsoever? These are questions we wouldn't want strangers in our personal space about. If I asked you how much you take home per year you'd say none of your business.
I guess we should cut our losses now before these malcontent, dead weight losers corrupt the team even more:
Andrew Thomas
Julian Love
Azeez Ojulari
Xavier McKinney
Haha you were only able to name 4 players worth keeping from a 4-year tenure.
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I guess we should cut our losses now before these malcontent, dead weight losers corrupt the team even more:
Andrew Thomas
Julian Love
Azeez Ojulari
Xavier McKinney
Haha you were only able to name 4 players worth keeping from a 4-year tenure.
Toney will be a Giant this year and probably next as well.
Toney will be a Giant this year and probably next as well.
Why would they have to trade him for a player?
I'd take draft compensation.
Toney will be a Giant this year and probably next as well.
If they decide he isn’t worth the time and future investment, then should shed him sooner vs. later. And as noted above, they can market him for picks.
You really want to align yourself with Gettleman decisions like you did in that post?
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And then bring up utterly stupid ideas like trading a first round pick from last year who would have a dead cap hit of 5+M and negative salary cap savings of 2.3M. And you have to pay the guy you traded for if there is a team stupid enough get themselves locked in to his remaining guaranteed contract.
Toney will be a Giant this year and probably next as well.
If they decide he isn’t worth the time and future investment, then should shed him sooner vs. later. And as noted above, they can market him for picks.
You really want to align yourself with Gettleman decisions like you did in that post?
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And then bring up utterly stupid ideas like trading a first round pick from last year who would have a dead cap hit of 5+M and negative salary cap savings of 2.3M. And you have to pay the guy you traded for if there is a team stupid enough get themselves locked in to his remaining guaranteed contract.
Toney will be a Giant this year and probably next as well.
Why would they have to trade him for a player?
I'd take draft compensation.
But at the end of the day he is a head case.
Good luck with that.
Again, stop comparing Toney to OBJ. OBJ set records his rookie year, Toney ... produces records.
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I guess we should cut our losses now before these malcontent, dead weight losers corrupt the team even more:
Andrew Thomas
Julian Love
Azeez Ojulari
Xavier McKinney
Haha you were only able to name 4 players worth keeping from a 4-year tenure.
And Thomas was the #4 overall pick in a draft with 4 franchise OTs, meaning it was mathematically impossible for Gettleman to screw the pick up.
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And then bring up utterly stupid ideas like trading a first round pick from last year who would have a dead cap hit of 5+M and negative salary cap savings of 2.3M. And you have to pay the guy you traded for if there is a team stupid enough get themselves locked in to his remaining guaranteed contract.
Toney will be a Giant this year and probably next as well.
Why would they have to trade him for a player?
I'd take draft compensation.
And you are still paying to fill his spot, all because the 10 cent head decided to skip a voluntary workout?
It's not just the workouts, it's a troubling pattern that I notice a lot of folks are trying to rationalize their way out of.
A few years ago, I would have been doing the same thing.
I really do not believe Toney is a long-term answer here. Terrible pick? I don't think I'd go that far because he clearly has talent, but I don't see him as a WR1 or a guy you're going to rely on to bring in 90 balls a year.
It's pretty clear that optics don't matter to him and he's just going to march to the beat of his own drum. I was willing to stick my neck out for Beckham because he was at least electric on the football field and was a TD machine his first few years.
Toney hasn't shown anything other than elite change of direction skills.
I just don't see this turning into something fruitful where he's a regular producer here and plays out his rookie deal w/ NYG. I'd love to be wrong, but I certainly wouldn't balk at trading him if a fair offer were out there.