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Report: Apple is "likely" landing Sunday Ticket

moze1021 : 4/19/2022 9:17 am
Good news that it's getting away from DirecTV...but very bad news for the ~50% of Smart phone users who have Android OS phones..

The Mets broadcast was an absolute debacle from a technical perspective. No ability to pause or rewind, constant buffering and crashing. Hope they figure out some sort of Android app solution if this deal goes through.

Would have preferred Amazon or Youtube...
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Hoping that the NFL does what other leagues do  
BigBlue7 : 4/19/2022 9:18 am : link
and allow you to purchase a package for just one team.
There's really no Apple TV android app?  
Heisenberg : 4/19/2022 9:27 am : link
There's a Roku app that I use all the time. Pretty sure there's a FireTV app, too. You have to think that most Smart TVs will have an app.

It'd be great if they let you do like NBA league pass where you can watch it all or just one team. I'm planning on moving out of the northeast in a few years and will need a way to see the G men.
RE: There's really no Apple TV android app?  
allstarjim : 4/19/2022 9:28 am : link
In comment 15670083 Heisenberg said:
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There's a Roku app that I use all the time. Pretty sure there's a FireTV app, too. You have to think that most Smart TVs will have an app.

It'd be great if they let you do like NBA league pass where you can watch it all or just one team. I'm planning on moving out of the northeast in a few years and will need a way to see the G men.


Can confirm there is an Apple TV FireTV app.
this would be awesome news  
UConn4523 : 4/19/2022 9:28 am : link
hope it happens. Time to get to the year 2022 with sports viewing, enough of these archaic options.
Get your  
JonC : 4/19/2022 9:30 am : link
Android SmartTV ready, and you'll be fine.
Apple isn't going to spend $2.5b per year  
UConn4523 : 4/19/2022 9:32 am : link
and restrict access. You can get it through your TV apps at the minimum and maybe something gets worked out on your phone. Not really a big deal.
Does Apple TV  
Jolly Blue Giant : 4/19/2022 9:32 am : link
Offer live TV like YouTube TV or Fubo?
RE: this would be awesome news  
Snablats : 4/19/2022 9:33 am : link
In comment 15670088 UConn4523 said:
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hope it happens. Time to get to the year 2022 with sports viewing, enough of these archaic options.

Sunday Ticket moving to a site that you cannot DVR is not "getting to the year 2022", its going back to the 1970s, to the days before VCRs

And apparently I would have to buy a roku or firestick to see games on my TV
Archaic?  
Jints in Carolina : 4/19/2022 9:42 am : link
I have Sunday Ticket online via Roku and I can watch anywhere...on my Android phone, laptop, tablet.

That's not archaic to me.
This would be great. Satellite TV is close to obsolete and it would  
Metnut : 4/19/2022 9:42 am : link
be great to see these games widely available via streaming. I’m sure Apple would have things up to speed tech wise by the time this rolls out (basically using the MLB games this year as a trial to build on).
RE: RE: There's really no Apple TV android app?  
Justlurking : 4/19/2022 9:42 am : link
In comment 15670087 allstarjim said:
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In comment 15670083 Heisenberg said:


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There's a Roku app that I use all the time. Pretty sure there's a FireTV app, too. You have to think that most Smart TVs will have an app.

It'd be great if they let you do like NBA league pass where you can watch it all or just one team. I'm planning on moving out of the northeast in a few years and will need a way to see the G men.



Can confirm there is an Apple TV FireTV app.


LOL, obviously. I have google on my apple devices and vice versa...all works well.
DirecTV  
pjcas18 : 4/19/2022 9:43 am : link
has allegedly lost $2.5B on Sunday Ticket since 1994.

not much I guess over 28 years, but still probably not the moneymaker some might have thought.

People like Mook calling up and wrestling it away from CSRs for free probably doesn't help, lol.
You don't even know the offering yet, lol  
UConn4523 : 4/19/2022 9:43 am : link
I'll reserve judgement on a DVR option until, you know, we actually know the details? And a roku is $20, should be an afterthought after paying what sunday ticket costs every year.

What company solves all issues for all people? If you aren't willing to be a tad flexible you are going to be disappointed with most purchases in life.
RE: Apple isn't going to spend $2.5b per year  
Giantsfan79 : 4/19/2022 9:43 am : link
In comment 15670097 UConn4523 said:
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and restrict access. You can get it through your TV apps at the minimum and maybe something gets worked out on your phone. Not really a big deal.


agreed with you here. Also I have to figure they are figuring they can use the NFL to convert more people to apple incentivizing them to make it fully available.
RE: Archaic?  
UConn4523 : 4/19/2022 9:46 am : link
In comment 15670107 Jints in Carolina said:
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I have Sunday Ticket online via Roku and I can watch anywhere...on my Android phone, laptop, tablet.

That's not archaic to me.


I expect the product to be better because of the company that's buying it. Sports broadcasting is archaic - limited options, lack of 4k streaming, still catering to cable subscribers. Its time to improve the product.
NBD  
State Your Name : 4/19/2022 9:48 am : link
The AppleTV app exists everywhere, even xBox.
Meh.  
Big Blue '56 : 4/19/2022 9:48 am : link
I listen to the game on Sirius live, then watch it without commercials on GamePass a few hours later
 
christian : 4/19/2022 9:48 am : link
I could take or leave Mac physical products, but the Apple TV and TV+ software is seamless and very easy to use. Especially the family sharing features.
RE: This would be great. Satellite TV is close to obsolete and it would  
Snablats : 4/19/2022 9:49 am : link
In comment 15670109 Metnut said:
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be great to see these games widely available via streaming. I’m sure Apple would have things up to speed tech wise by the time this rolls out (basically using the MLB games this year as a trial to build on).

How is Directv "close to obsolete"? It works just fine and is way better than the pulling the plug options, which still isnt an option for those of us living outside their favorite team market
RE: …  
UConn4523 : 4/19/2022 9:53 am : link
In comment 15670125 christian said:
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I could take or leave Mac physical products, but the Apple TV and TV+ software is seamless and very easy to use. Especially the family sharing features.


Agreed. Other than Netflix (who I would have loved to have done this deal) AppleTV+ is a near flawless application.
RE: You don't even know the offering yet, lol  
Snablats : 4/19/2022 9:53 am : link
In comment 15670113 UConn4523 said:
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I'll reserve judgement on a DVR option until, you know, we actually know the details? And a roku is $20, should be an afterthought after paying what sunday ticket costs every year.

What company solves all issues for all people? If you aren't willing to be a tad flexible you are going to be disappointed with most purchases in life.

You think Apple will give us Sunday Ticket for free? No, we still have to pay for it and wont get any discounts that Directv has given many of us through the years. And now many of us will have to purchase more equipment

So we have to be flexible by having less options to see the game. We have to be flexible by not being able to DVR the games. What happened to your "now we will be in 2022" argument?

RE: Does Apple TV  
Section331 : 4/19/2022 9:56 am : link
In comment 15670098 Jolly Blue Giant said:
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Offer live TV like YouTube TV or Fubo?


As of now, they do not. I have no idea if they have any plans to enter that marketplace. Live TV is a loss-leader for streaming platforms like YouTube TV, Hulu, etc. Apple may not feel the need to go there.
Good news...  
Italianju : 4/19/2022 9:56 am : link
i know everyone crushed apple for their very first live sports broadcast every, but i think they will be just fine. Plus a ton of the complaints were about the broadcast team which wont matter for NFL.

And im not sure why but lots of apps dont allow pausing or recording. Does anyone remember if the sunday ticket app (APP not television channel) allowed that feature?

Also the fact that so many think you will need an apple TV to watch this means apple really needs to improve their marketing or dumb it down (NOT CALLING PEOPLE HERE DUMB) but people need to know you can watch it on any device and clearly people dont.
why should you get it for free/discounted?  
UConn4523 : 4/19/2022 9:57 am : link
since when does paying for something = bad? Like I said before you can't please everyone and i'm so very sorry your trick to get free/discounted sunday ticket every year will be kaput, but the rest of the country is likely getting a much better option and product to watch the games.

And a Roku isn't "equipment". Its $20 and allows you to get a lot more than just access to Apple TV. If you don't have one now you'll have one in a few years.
im just hoping they put it on apple tv  
Eric on Li : 4/19/2022 9:58 am : link
which is pretty soon going to be ubiquitous anyway because they are pumping out as much good content now as any other streaming service.
Getting the games in high-end 4K without having to put  
Metnut : 4/19/2022 10:02 am : link
an ugly ass dish on my roof is a homerun. Glad to see this is close to a done deal. Would be cool if they add red zone to this also so that can be in 4K too.
Uuuh  
bLiTz 2k : 4/19/2022 10:03 am : link
Why would apple acquiring it affect android users whatsoever?

Apple TV is literally on every single device with a screen. Kind of an odd takeaway.
RE: Archaic?  
bLiTz 2k : 4/19/2022 10:04 am : link
In comment 15670107 Jints in Carolina said:
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I have Sunday Ticket online via Roku and I can watch anywhere...on my Android phone, laptop, tablet.

That's not archaic to me.


The current Sunday ticket business model is absolutely archaic.
RE: im just hoping they put it on apple tv  
Metnut : 4/19/2022 10:04 am : link
In comment 15670146 Eric on Li said:
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which is pretty soon going to be ubiquitous anyway because they are pumping out as much good content now as any other streaming service.


Apple has over $100,000,000,000 of cash on hand. Spending $2.5B annually to promote their streaming service is doable. I do doubt that it will be free though. More likely, you’ll get one-year free as a throw-in each time you buy a new Apple device.
RE: NBD  
moze1021 : 4/19/2022 10:04 am : link
In comment 15670123 State Your Name said:
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The AppleTV app exists everywhere, even xBox.


Everywhere except on Android Phones... you can only access through Web Browser.
Well there goes calling into  
jv : 4/19/2022 10:05 am : link
DirecTV and getting a discount on your bill or free Sunday Ticket. Apple isn't giving anything away for free. I'm hopeful they'll come out with various packages for Sunday Ticket which would be great for consumers. Like perhaps you can just subscribe to the Giants or RedZone. On the surface though I have a tough time finding any joy in this news.
RE: Uuuh  
moze1021 : 4/19/2022 10:06 am : link
In comment 15670156 bLiTz 2k said:
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Why would apple acquiring it affect android users whatsoever?

Apple TV is literally on every single device with a screen. Kind of an odd takeaway.


No phone app if you need to watch remotely. I had to watch the Mets game on a plane in my web browser and it was terrible

Watching from home? Indeed no big deal.
RE: why should you get it for free/discounted?  
Section331 : 4/19/2022 10:06 am : link
In comment 15670141 UConn4523 said:
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since when does paying for something = bad? Like I said before you can't please everyone and i'm so very sorry your trick to get free/discounted sunday ticket every year will be kaput, but the rest of the country is likely getting a much better option and product to watch the games.

And a Roku isn't "equipment". Its $20 and allows you to get a lot more than just access to Apple TV. If you don't have one now you'll have one in a few years.


Yeah, the idea that you wouldn't have to pay a premium for Sun Ticket is an odd take. Apple is paying billions for it and they're supposed to give it away for free? I have Apple TV+, and I'll pay extra for Sunday Ticket, provided the cost isn't prohibitive.
hopefully they will offer a 1 team package  
larryflower37 : 4/19/2022 10:14 am : link
like they do for the other leagues.
I don't watch too many out-of-market games besides the Giants.
There are 3 device categories that do not have an Apple TV app:  
moze1021 : 4/19/2022 10:15 am : link
Windows OS
Android OS
Chrome OS

I can't speak to the Windows or Chrome OS experiences, but the Android OS Apple TV interface through mobile browser is horrid... live stream with no pause/rewind/browse controls and also fails to reconnect with browser close/open

RE: RE: im just hoping they put it on apple tv  
Eric on Li : 4/19/2022 10:17 am : link
In comment 15670158 Metnut said:
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In comment 15670146 Eric on Li said:


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which is pretty soon going to be ubiquitous anyway because they are pumping out as much good content now as any other streaming service.



Apple has over $100,000,000,000 of cash on hand. Spending $2.5B annually to promote their streaming service is doable. I do doubt that it will be free though. More likely, you’ll get one-year free as a throw-in each time you buy a new Apple device.


i think it's 50-50 - im hoping they throw it in with their top tier monthly sub that includes apple tv, arcade, cloud, and music. maybe that goes up a few bucks but that would probably be the strongest way for them to leverage it since cash flow likely isn't their biggest priority.
Apple TV literally doesn't exist for Android phones.  
BH28 : 4/19/2022 10:19 am : link
Full stop.

So yeah if you have a Chromecast with Google TV you are ok, but as I mentioned before Apple does not seem to have any interest in playing nice with Android.

I would imagine that they'll release something for Android but it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't for years and if they did, it would be a second rate experience on Android phones.
lol  
pjcas18 : 4/19/2022 10:22 am : link
at people not wanting "equipment" for Apple Sunday Ticket.

I had to get a f-ing satellite dish on my house and the whole placed wired with physical wire just to get Sunday Ticket. And like many people that's the only reason I ever even got DirecTV.

The barrier of entry for an AppleTV version of Sunday Ticket will be MUCH lower and maybe the price will be too or will be more market focused (options to buy or view a team, week, or even individual game). Kind of like Sunday Ticket Europe.
I will never pay Apple a fucking nickel  
Greg from LI : 4/19/2022 10:25 am : link
I don't support cults. I'll just stick with pirated streams.
RE: RE: You don't even know the offering yet, lol  
regischarlotte : 4/19/2022 10:26 am : link
In comment 15670132 Snablats said:
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In comment 15670113 UConn4523 said:


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I'll reserve judgement on a DVR option until, you know, we actually know the details? And a roku is $20, should be an afterthought after paying what sunday ticket costs every year.

What company solves all issues for all people? If you aren't willing to be a tad flexible you are going to be disappointed with most purchases in life.


You think Apple will give us Sunday Ticket for free? No, we still have to pay for it and wont get any discounts that Directv has given many of us through the years. And now many of us will have to purchase more equipment

So we have to be flexible by having less options to see the game. We have to be flexible by not being able to DVR the games. What happened to your "now we will be in 2022" argument?



Everybody complaining about the supposed lack of a DVR obviously doesn’t understand how streaming on sports typically is made available.

As anyone who has ESPN+, fuboTV, Paramount Plus, YouTubeTV, or the streaming versions of NBA League Pass, NHL Center Ice, or Extra Innings/MLB.tv already knows, these services all have the ability to start from beginning even mid-game, have all DVR functionality, archived games etc.

In many ways it is in fact better than a DVR because you don’t even need to set it or do anything and it’s there.

Given GamePass I guess it is possible that there will be no archive with Sunday Ticket on Apple, but I think it is more likely that at a minimum it will be included at a lower rate or comped/be a feature.

And while it is certainly possible, I would not presume that the service will require an additional fee beyond the basic Apple TV+ subscription.

Disney includes NHL out of market (the old Center Ice) with ESPN+; there is no additional fee.

And Apple is playing the long game here, and their focus is on substantially increasing its subscriber base (which has been disappointing since ATV+ launch). I think a slight bump in the monthly subscription fee is more likely, especially since Apple is even more capable than DTV to treat this as a loss leader, and stands to benefit even more.

So in the world of Aaron Rodgers, “Relax”.
RE: I will never pay Apple a fucking nickel  
UConn4523 : 4/19/2022 10:42 am : link
In comment 15670185 Greg from LI said:
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I don't support cults. I'll just stick with pirated streams.


Lol
regis  
UConn4523 : 4/19/2022 10:45 am : link
I'd be fine with a huge bump in the AppleTV+ cost since I expect the product will be better. I also don't really understand sports fans - people will spend $500+ to bring a guest to 1 live game, buy memorabilia, and purchase who knows what else, but the hard line in the sand is how much the TV package costs?

I'm not about telling people how to spend their money but big picture this will likely be a pretty cheap way to watch the games.
RE: Archaic?  
Kyle in NY : 4/19/2022 10:47 am : link
In comment 15670107 Jints in Carolina said:
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I have Sunday Ticket online via Roku and I can watch anywhere...on my Android phone, laptop, tablet.

That's not archaic to me.


Jints, do you live in an apartment or condo? To my knowledge, and in my experience, you're not eligible to buy the Sunday Ticket streaming option if you're in a house because they want you to purchase the full DirecTv satellite package. Every time I enter my address to try to purchase just sunday ticket it denies me. That's tough
.  
Banks : 4/19/2022 10:55 am : link
eh I actually love Direct TV's service. The only knock I have is that the shortcuts moved to streaming only. Now the whole service will be streaming...yay. I hate apple and I will miss being able to record the games. I just hope they do a better job than amazon does with the TNF streaming. Even after all these years it's often choppy and very delayed
Love this...  
IchabodGiant : 4/19/2022 11:10 am : link
Hated DirecTV and dealing with them all the time. Always slimy with trying to get away with packing your bill.

Have no problem paying Apple for the service. I usually got the Sunday Ticket for free, but the idea of never having to talk to a DirecTV CSR again is worth it.
I was hoping for Aamazon to do this deal, but  
Paulie Walnuts : 4/19/2022 11:12 am : link
this will make my Apple stock go up !
We do not know any details of the Apple NFL platform, seems logical that they would support some time of DVR, or connection to the game pass library of recorded games

ATT ruined DTV IMHO it was perfect before they started making changed

I dumped DTV a year ago for YoutubeTV and GamePass and never looked back
Football moving to a buggy walled garden  
widmerseyebrow : 4/19/2022 11:17 am : link
Welcome to the future!
RE: Getting the games in high-end 4K without having to put  
BigBlue7 : 4/19/2022 11:18 am : link
In comment 15670154 Metnut said:
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an ugly ass dish on my roof is a homerun. Glad to see this is close to a done deal. Would be cool if they add red zone to this also so that can be in 4K too.


You do realize that if you have a 4k device or tv it doesn’t mean the games are in 4k. In fact, they’re not even in 1080p. They are in 720p or 1080i and then upscaled
Hoping this will be a good thing...  
jrdinsc : 4/19/2022 11:21 am : link
But it can't get much worse than Direct TV.

RE: RE: Getting the games in high-end 4K without having to put  
UConn4523 : 4/19/2022 11:25 am : link
In comment 15670293 BigBlue7 said:
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In comment 15670154 Metnut said:


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an ugly ass dish on my roof is a homerun. Glad to see this is close to a done deal. Would be cool if they add red zone to this also so that can be in 4K too.



You do realize that if you have a 4k device or tv it doesn’t mean the games are in 4k. In fact, they’re not even in 1080p. They are in 720p or 1080i and then upscaled


The implication is that Apple would invest in 4k streaming option for football, something Direct TV didn't do. I don't think this is a fact, but I can guarantee it will happen sooner with Apple than it would as is.
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