Good news that it's getting away from DirecTV...but very bad news for the ~50% of Smart phone users who have Android OS phones..
The Mets broadcast was an absolute debacle from a technical perspective. No ability to pause or rewind, constant buffering and crashing. Hope they figure out some sort of Android app solution if this deal goes through.
Would have preferred Amazon or Youtube...
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It'd be great if they let you do like NBA league pass where you can watch it all or just one team. I'm planning on moving out of the northeast in a few years and will need a way to see the G men.
It'd be great if they let you do like NBA league pass where you can watch it all or just one team. I'm planning on moving out of the northeast in a few years and will need a way to see the G men.
Can confirm there is an Apple TV FireTV app.
Sunday Ticket moving to a site that you cannot DVR is not "getting to the year 2022", its going back to the 1970s, to the days before VCRs
And apparently I would have to buy a roku or firestick to see games on my TV
That's not archaic to me.
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There's a Roku app that I use all the time. Pretty sure there's a FireTV app, too. You have to think that most Smart TVs will have an app.
It'd be great if they let you do like NBA league pass where you can watch it all or just one team. I'm planning on moving out of the northeast in a few years and will need a way to see the G men.
Can confirm there is an Apple TV FireTV app.
LOL, obviously. I have google on my apple devices and vice versa...all works well.
not much I guess over 28 years, but still probably not the moneymaker some might have thought.
People like Mook calling up and wrestling it away from CSRs for free probably doesn't help, lol.
What company solves all issues for all people? If you aren't willing to be a tad flexible you are going to be disappointed with most purchases in life.
agreed with you here. Also I have to figure they are figuring they can use the NFL to convert more people to apple incentivizing them to make it fully available.
That's not archaic to me.
I expect the product to be better because of the company that's buying it. Sports broadcasting is archaic - limited options, lack of 4k streaming, still catering to cable subscribers. Its time to improve the product.
How is Directv "close to obsolete"? It works just fine and is way better than the pulling the plug options, which still isnt an option for those of us living outside their favorite team market
Agreed. Other than Netflix (who I would have loved to have done this deal) AppleTV+ is a near flawless application.
What company solves all issues for all people? If you aren't willing to be a tad flexible you are going to be disappointed with most purchases in life.
You think Apple will give us Sunday Ticket for free? No, we still have to pay for it and wont get any discounts that Directv has given many of us through the years. And now many of us will have to purchase more equipment
So we have to be flexible by having less options to see the game. We have to be flexible by not being able to DVR the games. What happened to your "now we will be in 2022" argument?
As of now, they do not. I have no idea if they have any plans to enter that marketplace. Live TV is a loss-leader for streaming platforms like YouTube TV, Hulu, etc. Apple may not feel the need to go there.
And im not sure why but lots of apps dont allow pausing or recording. Does anyone remember if the sunday ticket app (APP not television channel) allowed that feature?
Also the fact that so many think you will need an apple TV to watch this means apple really needs to improve their marketing or dumb it down (NOT CALLING PEOPLE HERE DUMB) but people need to know you can watch it on any device and clearly people dont.
And a Roku isn't "equipment". Its $20 and allows you to get a lot more than just access to Apple TV. If you don't have one now you'll have one in a few years.
Apple TV is literally on every single device with a screen. Kind of an odd takeaway.
That's not archaic to me.
The current Sunday ticket business model is absolutely archaic.
Apple has over $100,000,000,000 of cash on hand. Spending $2.5B annually to promote their streaming service is doable. I do doubt that it will be free though. More likely, you’ll get one-year free as a throw-in each time you buy a new Apple device.
Everywhere except on Android Phones... you can only access through Web Browser.
Apple TV is literally on every single device with a screen. Kind of an odd takeaway.
No phone app if you need to watch remotely. I had to watch the Mets game on a plane in my web browser and it was terrible
Watching from home? Indeed no big deal.
And a Roku isn't "equipment". Its $20 and allows you to get a lot more than just access to Apple TV. If you don't have one now you'll have one in a few years.
Yeah, the idea that you wouldn't have to pay a premium for Sun Ticket is an odd take. Apple is paying billions for it and they're supposed to give it away for free? I have Apple TV+, and I'll pay extra for Sunday Ticket, provided the cost isn't prohibitive.
I don't watch too many out-of-market games besides the Giants.
Android OS
Chrome OS
I can't speak to the Windows or Chrome OS experiences, but the Android OS Apple TV interface through mobile browser is horrid... live stream with no pause/rewind/browse controls and also fails to reconnect with browser close/open
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which is pretty soon going to be ubiquitous anyway because they are pumping out as much good content now as any other streaming service.
Apple has over $100,000,000,000 of cash on hand. Spending $2.5B annually to promote their streaming service is doable. I do doubt that it will be free though. More likely, you’ll get one-year free as a throw-in each time you buy a new Apple device.
i think it's 50-50 - im hoping they throw it in with their top tier monthly sub that includes apple tv, arcade, cloud, and music. maybe that goes up a few bucks but that would probably be the strongest way for them to leverage it since cash flow likely isn't their biggest priority.
So yeah if you have a Chromecast with Google TV you are ok, but as I mentioned before Apple does not seem to have any interest in playing nice with Android.
I would imagine that they'll release something for Android but it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't for years and if they did, it would be a second rate experience on Android phones.
I had to get a f-ing satellite dish on my house and the whole placed wired with physical wire just to get Sunday Ticket. And like many people that's the only reason I ever even got DirecTV.
The barrier of entry for an AppleTV version of Sunday Ticket will be MUCH lower and maybe the price will be too or will be more market focused (options to buy or view a team, week, or even individual game). Kind of like Sunday Ticket Europe.
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I'll reserve judgement on a DVR option until, you know, we actually know the details? And a roku is $20, should be an afterthought after paying what sunday ticket costs every year.
What company solves all issues for all people? If you aren't willing to be a tad flexible you are going to be disappointed with most purchases in life.
You think Apple will give us Sunday Ticket for free? No, we still have to pay for it and wont get any discounts that Directv has given many of us through the years. And now many of us will have to purchase more equipment
So we have to be flexible by having less options to see the game. We have to be flexible by not being able to DVR the games. What happened to your "now we will be in 2022" argument?
Everybody complaining about the supposed lack of a DVR obviously doesn’t understand how streaming on sports typically is made available.
As anyone who has ESPN+, fuboTV, Paramount Plus, YouTubeTV, or the streaming versions of NBA League Pass, NHL Center Ice, or Extra Innings/MLB.tv already knows, these services all have the ability to start from beginning even mid-game, have all DVR functionality, archived games etc.
In many ways it is in fact better than a DVR because you don’t even need to set it or do anything and it’s there.
Given GamePass I guess it is possible that there will be no archive with Sunday Ticket on Apple, but I think it is more likely that at a minimum it will be included at a lower rate or comped/be a feature.
And while it is certainly possible, I would not presume that the service will require an additional fee beyond the basic Apple TV+ subscription.
Disney includes NHL out of market (the old Center Ice) with ESPN+; there is no additional fee.
And Apple is playing the long game here, and their focus is on substantially increasing its subscriber base (which has been disappointing since ATV+ launch). I think a slight bump in the monthly subscription fee is more likely, especially since Apple is even more capable than DTV to treat this as a loss leader, and stands to benefit even more.
So in the world of Aaron Rodgers, “Relax”.
Lol
I'm not about telling people how to spend their money but big picture this will likely be a pretty cheap way to watch the games.
That's not archaic to me.
Jints, do you live in an apartment or condo? To my knowledge, and in my experience, you're not eligible to buy the Sunday Ticket streaming option if you're in a house because they want you to purchase the full DirecTv satellite package. Every time I enter my address to try to purchase just sunday ticket it denies me. That's tough
Have no problem paying Apple for the service. I usually got the Sunday Ticket for free, but the idea of never having to talk to a DirecTV CSR again is worth it.
We do not know any details of the Apple NFL platform, seems logical that they would support some time of DVR, or connection to the game pass library of recorded games
ATT ruined DTV IMHO it was perfect before they started making changed
I dumped DTV a year ago for YoutubeTV and GamePass and never looked back
You do realize that if you have a 4k device or tv it doesn’t mean the games are in 4k. In fact, they’re not even in 1080p. They are in 720p or 1080i and then upscaled
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an ugly ass dish on my roof is a homerun. Glad to see this is close to a done deal. Would be cool if they add red zone to this also so that can be in 4K too.
You do realize that if you have a 4k device or tv it doesn’t mean the games are in 4k. In fact, they’re not even in 1080p. They are in 720p or 1080i and then upscaled
The implication is that Apple would invest in 4k streaming option for football, something Direct TV didn't do. I don't think this is a fact, but I can guarantee it will happen sooner with Apple than it would as is.