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NFT: NHL Thread - Rest of Regular Season/Playoff Positioning

pjcas18 : 4/24/2022 11:28 am
A lot of the drama is basically decided in the East.

All 8 playoff teams have clinched, only jockeying for position/seeding is left.

All teams have anywhere from 2 to 4 games left.

As it stands today (games remaining in () at the end):
E1: (Atlantic champ) Panthers 120 pts (clinched 1 seed) (4)
E2: (Metro champ*) Hurricanes 110 pts (*not clinched) (3)
E3: Leafs 109 pts (3)
E4: Rangers 108 pts (3)
E5: Lightning 105 pts (4)
E6: Bruins 101 pts (4)
E7: Pens 101 pts (3)
E8: Caps 99 pts (4)

If nothing changes the 1st round matchups would be:

Panthers vs Caps (A1 vs WC2)
Hurricanes vs Bruins (M1 vs WC1)
Leafs vs Lightning (A2 vs A3)
Rangers vs Pens (M2 vs M3)

If I'm the Rangers I'm fine where I am and they have clinched at worst the 2 seed in the Metro. I'd rather play the Pens than the Bruins.

I will add the West in a separate post (5 teams have clinched and basically 4 teams vying for the final 3 spots).

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Heard Devils  
five5 : 6/28/2022 11:21 am : link
have significant interest in John Gibson.
One player  
pjcas18 : 6/28/2022 11:53 am : link
teams who need a C should be looking at is Christian Dvorak in MTL.

26 years old, good on the dots, defensively responsible, can play SH and in a pinch PP, with some scoring punch. Under contract the next 3 years @ a fair $4.45M.

more a 40-50pt player than an 80, but with the right linemates can be a 2C.

Mmmmmmhmmmmmmm  
Anakim : 6/28/2022 6:50 pm : link
Shawn Hutcheon
@ShawnHutcheon
According to sources close to the situation, David Quinn is the leading candidate to be the next head coach of the Boston Bruins.
RE: One player  
Snablats : 6/28/2022 8:15 pm : link
In comment 15742698 pjcas18 said:
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teams who need a C should be looking at is Christian Dvorak in MTL.

26 years old, good on the dots, defensively responsible, can play SH and in a pinch PP, with some scoring punch. Under contract the next 3 years @ a fair $4.45M.

more a 40-50pt player than an 80, but with the right linemates can be a 2C.

He isnt a 2C. The Rangers need a real 2C
RE: RE: One player  
pjcas18 : 6/28/2022 8:26 pm : link
In comment 15743168 Snablats said:
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In comment 15742698 pjcas18 said:


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teams who need a C should be looking at is Christian Dvorak in MTL.

26 years old, good on the dots, defensively responsible, can play SH and in a pinch PP, with some scoring punch. Under contract the next 3 years @ a fair $4.45M.

more a 40-50pt player than an 80, but with the right linemates can be a 2C.



He isnt a 2C. The Rangers need a real 2C


This isn't a Rangers thread, I said teams who need a C in general.

And who is a 2C? How many 2C's are better than Dvorak and for the price?

Not many.

Tavares? Point/Stamkos? Pettersson? Draisaitl when he's not on a line with McDavid?

The Avs won a cup with Kadri or Compher as their 2C.

Look up Kadri's 25/26 year old stats and tell me how he's better than Dvorak.

The Panthers won the East with Sam Bennett as their 2C. Which areas is Bennett better than Dvorak.

You can do a lot worse than Dvorak as your 2C (and I include Strome in that worse than Dvorak category).
A guy who has never scored more than 38pts in a season  
Snablats : 6/28/2022 8:44 pm : link
thats who you claim is a 2C
RE: A guy who has never scored more than 38pts in a season  
pjcas18 : 6/28/2022 8:54 pm : link
In comment 15743181 Snablats said:
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thats who you claim is a 2C


Yes.
LOL I just found this article from a couple years ago  
pjcas18 : 6/28/2022 9:01 pm : link
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Potential NY Rangers Trade Target: Christian Dvorak


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As the quest to bolster the center depth continues, an interesting scenario emerged in Arizona. Fresh off sanctions, there are rumblings that the Coyotes might look to blow things up and start over. The Coyotes got into trouble with a few bad bets on their RFAs, hamstringing them from a cap perspective. While there are some bad contracts, Christian Dvorak has a good one, and he might be a good fit for the Rangers.
Solid, Young, and Cost Controlled

Dvorak, the Yotes 2C at the moment, put up 18-20-38 in 70 games last season. He’s been a consistent 40-point pace player since entering the league. The 24 year old center has another five years left on his deal with a cap hit of $4.45 million.......Right off the bat, we see that Dvorak really helped drive offense with the Coyotes this year. This is evidence that Dvorak is a play driver and not a passenger. He is more than just his offensive line, which is important. The Rangers have goal scorers, but they need play drivers. Dvorak does just that.

He’s also far from a liability in his own end. His defensive play isn’t going to wow you, but he gets the job done. He’s a much better option defensively than most of the current centers on the Rangers roster. The two-way play would be a welcomed addition down the middle.


and they suggest pairing him with Panarin.


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Thats not an article  
Snablats : 6/28/2022 9:27 pm : link
its a fan blog post

The Rangers need a proven guy, not someone making 4.3 whom you hope can raise his game



RE: Thats not an article  
pjcas18 : 6/28/2022 9:43 pm : link
In comment 15743192 Snablats said:
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its a fan blog post

The Rangers need a proven guy, not someone making 4.3 whom you hope can raise his game




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Lovely  
Anakim : 6/29/2022 11:39 am : link
And Kakko is trending on Twitter because there are rumors that the Rangers are interested in trading for RFA Pierre-Luc Dubois
Dubois  
five5 : 6/29/2022 12:06 pm : link
would be a terrific addition. It will take slot more than Kakko to get a deal done.
PLD  
pjcas18 : 6/29/2022 12:14 pm : link
said he's going to test FA.

Unless the NYR are sure they can extend him, that a dicey gamble and would be a costly one (in prospects) and probably a $6M min cap hit for the one year.
Plus, as talented as he is  
Greg from LI : 6/29/2022 12:18 pm : link
PLD has pushed his way out of two organizations now. Seems like something of a malcontent, frankly.

Also not sure the Rangers could afford to sign him even if they wanted to.
confirmed  
pjcas18 : 6/29/2022 12:38 pm : link
NRD
@NHLRumorsDaily
#NYR have been in talks with WPG for Pierre-Luc Dubois per RDS. Interesting.
NYR  
five5 : 6/29/2022 12:47 pm : link
wouldn’t make a deal if they didn’t have every intention to sign him. Don’t care what the cost is (lol)…guy is going to be a star in this league
Dubois does not help the faceoff issues  
Snablats : 6/29/2022 1:07 pm : link
But he is much younger than Scheifele
woah  
pjcas18 : 6/29/2022 4:37 pm : link
Michael Russo
@RussoHockey
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According to sources, the #mnwild have traded the rights to pending restricted free agent Kevin Fiala to the #lakings for their 2022 first-round pick and University of Minnesota captain Brock Faber
This is the floor  
pjcas18 : 6/29/2022 4:50 pm : link
(absolute floor) for a PLD deal.

a top prospect + a 1st round pick.

Fiala is an RFA and can be a UFA after the season.
RE: This is the floor  
Jay on the Island : 6/29/2022 5:29 pm : link
In comment 15743912 pjcas18 said:
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(absolute floor) for a PLD deal.

a top prospect + a 1st round pick.

Fiala is an RFA and can be a UFA after the season.

Fiala signed a 7 year contract with a $7.9 AAV with the Kings. He's a good player but I am very happy that the Devils did not acquire him at that price. If he can repeat the year he just had then he will be worth it but I think he will perform more at his previous levels in the 50 point range.
Yeah you figured  
pjcas18 : 6/29/2022 5:48 pm : link
there would be an extension, no one is trading Faber (future top 4 D) and a 1st for a rental, and I do like Fiala, but I'd also have passed if I were NJD.
RE: RE: This is the floor  
Stu11 : 6/29/2022 7:11 pm : link
In comment 15743979 Jay on the Island said:
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(absolute floor) for a PLD deal.

a top prospect + a 1st round pick.

Fiala is an RFA and can be a UFA after the season.


Fiala signed a 7 year contract with a $7.9 AAV with the Kings. He's a good player but I am very happy that the Devils did not acquire him at that price. If he can repeat the year he just had then he will be worth it but I think he will perform more at his previous levels in the 50 point range.

Wow did the Devil's dodge a bullet there. Not that I was ever that into getting him. You have to be careful evaluating guys who had big point spikes this year. Scoring went through the roof this year. I don't mind the Devils spending for an elite fwd like DeBrincat or Pasta or Johnny Hockey as a UFA. However 8 mill a year for a talent like Fiala just isn't good use of our space right now.
Brayden Point  
pjcas18 : 6/29/2022 7:36 pm : link
played with a torn quad two games in the SCF. He was injured vs Toronto in the first round.

holy shit that had to be painful.
RE: Brayden Point  
Jay on the Island : 6/29/2022 9:44 pm : link
In comment 15744107 pjcas18 said:
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played with a torn quad two games in the SCF. He was injured vs Toronto in the first round.

holy shit that had to be painful.

More proof that hockey players are the toughest athletes in sports.
RE: RE: RE: This is the floor  
Jay on the Island : 6/29/2022 9:49 pm : link
In comment 15744090 Stu11 said:
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Wow did the Devil's dodge a bullet there. Not that I was ever that into getting him. You have to be careful evaluating guys who had big point spikes this year. Scoring went through the roof this year. I don't mind the Devils spending for an elite fwd like DeBrincat or Pasta or Johnny Hockey as a UFA. However 8 mill a year for a talent like Fiala just isn't good use of our space right now.

I agree, those 3 are the only three I would be willing to sign for market value and I would add Tkachuk to that list obviously if the Flames re-sign Gaudreau and have to move Tkachuk but I don’t see a chance in hell of that happening.

I don't think they move Tkachuk  
pjcas18 : 6/30/2022 7:53 am : link
but looks like they are close to re-signing Johnny.

Alex Russo
@arusso_9
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Hearing that CAL and Johnny Gaudreau are closing in on a 8 year extension. Will avoid testing the market
I'd rather have Matthew Tkachuk  
pjcas18 : 6/30/2022 7:55 am : link
than Gaudreau.

There are maybe two or three players I'd put above Tkachuk right now.

McDavid, Makar, and then your splitting hairs with anyone ranked above Tkachuk.
Tkachuk  
five5 : 6/30/2022 8:36 am : link
is a really nice player.

PJ…u forgot MacKinnon (who is significantly better)…lol. Also, Tkachuk playing with JG helps his cause a great deal.
MacKinnon  
pjcas18 : 6/30/2022 8:58 am : link
is awesome, as is Barkov, and Huberdeau and Draisaitl - and of course JG and Tkachuk benefit from playing with each other just like McDavid and Draisaitl and Huberdeau and Barkov, etc.

but there are not many players left in the NHL who can put up 100 points and is willing (and able) to drop the gloves. Tkachuk is a unique player. He enabled Gaudreau to be Gaudreau IMO. Along with the goon squad in CAL.
RE: I'd rather have Matthew Tkachuk  
Jay on the Island : 6/30/2022 10:04 am : link
In comment 15744269 pjcas18 said:
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than Gaudreau.


I agree, Tkachuk is one of the few players I would be willing to move the 2nd overall pick for but again the Flames would never go for it. I would be willing to surrender the #2 overall pick, Alexander Holtz, and a couple of 2nd round picks for Tkachuk.
RE: RE: I'd rather have Matthew Tkachuk  
ColHowPepper : 6/30/2022 10:52 am : link
In comment 15744358 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 15744269 pjcas18 said: Quote:
than Gaudreau./////////

I agree, Tkachuk is one of the few players I would be willing to move the 2nd overall pick for but again the Flames would never go for it. I would be willing to surrender the #2 overall pick, Alexander Holtz, and a couple of 2nd round picks for Tkachuk.

What do I know? Nada. But Jay, I don't think that would get it done.
RE: RE: RE: I'd rather have Matthew Tkachuk  
Jay on the Island : 6/30/2022 11:01 am : link
In comment 15744395 ColHowPepper said:
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In comment 15744358 Jay on the Island said:


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In comment 15744269 pjcas18 said: Quote:
than Gaudreau./////////

I agree, Tkachuk is one of the few players I would be willing to move the 2nd overall pick for but again the Flames would never go for it. I would be willing to surrender the #2 overall pick, Alexander Holtz, and a couple of 2nd round picks for Tkachuk.


What do I know? Nada. But Jay, I don't think that would get it done.

It wouldn't get it done.
Tkachuk  
pjcas18 : 6/30/2022 11:16 am : link
is an RFA so consider at a minimum they QO him at 10M.

In order to sign him to an offer sheet you would need to pay 4 first round picks if he accepts it.

I think in a trade, your starting point is 2 or probably 3 1sts and a young player and maybe a veteran player.
Friedman  
pjcas18 : 6/30/2022 3:06 pm : link
says TBL may need to trade McDonagh.

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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27m
TB has some tough choices to make. It's not what they want to do, but what they might have to do


from his 32 thoughts column.....

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According to multiple sources, the Lightning are working with Ryan McDonagh to see if there’s another team he’d consider a trade to. It’s a very, very hard thing for Tampa to think about. McDonagh’s still a tremendous player (he was on the ice for the last shift to preserve the team’s Game 5 victory in Denver that prolonged the Stanley Cup Final) and is hugely popular among his teammates, who were disappointed to hear of the possibility. It’s not what Tampa wants to do, but may have to do.

McDonagh has four seasons remaining on a cap hit of $6.75M, with a full no-trade clause. So he controls his destiny. We will see where it goes, but there are conversations about the future.

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RE: Friedman  
Snablats : 6/30/2022 3:51 pm : link
In comment 15744765 pjcas18 said:
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says TBL may need to trade McDonagh.

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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27m
TB has some tough choices to make. It's not what they want to do, but what they might have to do


from his 32 thoughts column.....



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According to multiple sources, the Lightning are working with Ryan McDonagh to see if there’s another team he’d consider a trade to. It’s a very, very hard thing for Tampa to think about. McDonagh’s still a tremendous player (he was on the ice for the last shift to preserve the team’s Game 5 victory in Denver that prolonged the Stanley Cup Final) and is hugely popular among his teammates, who were disappointed to hear of the possibility. It’s not what Tampa wants to do, but may have to do.

McDonagh has four seasons remaining on a cap hit of $6.75M, with a full no-trade clause. So he controls his destiny. We will see where it goes, but there are conversations about the future.

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He is what the Rangers need defensively, a top LD. But Tampa would have to retain salary, and he is 33
From Staple in the Athletic 30 minutes ago  
Snablats : 6/30/2022 6:33 pm : link
"Two league sources told The Athletic that Chytil has been the most talked-about Ranger in Drury’s various trade conversations and that the Rangers are willing to lose Chytil in order to acquire an older, more established top-six center."

"The sources said that Chytil and Kakko could potentially wind up in a deal, though it’s certain Drury would only package them both for the likes of Scheifele or Larkin, and it’s not known if the Rangers and Red Wings have spoken about the Detroit captain, who has one season left at a $6.1 million AAV before hitting unrestricted free agency."

"Shedding Chytil and Kakko, both of whom would need new deals in the next year or two, could be a wash against the salary cap. And the Rangers may see a clearer path for Will Cuylle and Brennan Othmann in the top nine with Chytil and Kakko gone"

Sure sounds like everything I said they should do, trade for the 2C and move Chytil and Kakko to free up the cap space
Staple in The Athletic - ( New Window )
2C  
five5 : 6/30/2022 6:42 pm : link
Would move Kakko in a heartbeat. Not sure about Chytil. Would be very careful about that
Never lived up to the hype  
pjcas18 : 6/30/2022 8:54 pm : link
but could be a late bloomer/change of scenery guy.

Sportsnet
@Sportsnet
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Oilers winger Jesse Puljujarvi is once again seeking an exit from Edmonton. This time, the club appears willing to oblige the former fourth-overall pick with a trade.
.  
pjcas18 : 6/30/2022 9:12 pm : link
Kevin Weekes
@KevinWeekes
**Keep an eye 👁 on ** While there is no concrete signed deal, sources tell me Rick Tocchet is the leading candidate at present time for the HC of the @NHLJets
. The situation remains fluid, but I’m told it’s Tocchet’s decision to make . @espn
@NHL
#HockeyTwitter
an example  
pjcas18 : 6/30/2022 9:20 pm : link
of just how wrong sometimes scouts can be lol. Someone re-tweeted this today and the guy then went and deleted the original. but, as they say, the internet is forever...

this guy was a paid scout. In fairness, Strome went #3 overall so it's not like he was a late round pick, but how do you miss this bad as a professional? maybe explains his short career as a scout.

actually  
pjcas18 : 6/30/2022 9:23 pm : link
my bad, the internet wins again, that was a fake/photo shop.

lol.
Turns out the Quinn leak was not true or fell apart  
pjcas18 : 6/30/2022 10:32 pm : link
Jim Montgomery is the guy in BOS.

Murls
@mattmurley19
· 11h
Hearing Jim Montgomery is the next coach of the Boston Bruins. Absolute unreal hire!!! #insider @NHLBruins @marinakmaher @FeitsBarstool @spittinchiclets @BizNasty2point0 @ryanwhitney6
.  
pjcas18 : 8:46 am : link
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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34m
Not sure what’s happening with GM search in SJ, but it appears that the Sharks have made a coaching change. Word late last night was Bob Boughner was informed he will not be returning.
And apparently Drury is very interested in Name Kadri  
Anakim : 12:52 pm : link
Who would be a fantastic fit, but again, where is this money coming from?
If the Rangers go the route of "better than Copp/Strome"  
Snablats : 1:22 pm : link
then, as I've said for a month, the money comes from trading Chytil and/or Kakko

And Staple's article I posted yesterday says they are looking into that very scenario
PJ Have you seen this  
Pierre LeBrun: “There are some who believe that Montreal is waiting to see if the Devils make a move closer to the first round in terms of picking up the phone and asking Montreal what it would take to flip the No.1 and No. 2 picks so that the Devils can make sure they can get their hands on winger Juraj Slafkovsky. But the Devils are telling people ‘if a centre is the best player available in our eyes, we have no problem with taking another centre,’ even though the Devils have Jack Hughes and Nico Hischier.” [TSN]

Corey Pronman with an interesting pick for the Devils here in this mock draft. “If Slafkovsky goes No. 1, it opens up the possibilities. League sources seem somewhat skeptical they will take Wright, or at least they don’t view this as the likeliest scenario.”
RE: One player  
Will Shine : 1:53 pm : link
In comment 15742698 pjcas18 said:
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teams who need a C should be looking at is Christian Dvorak in MTL.

26 years old, good on the dots, defensively responsible, can play SH and in a pinch PP, with some scoring punch. Under contract the next 3 years @ a fair $4.45M.

more a 40-50pt player than an 80, but with the right linemates can be a 2C.


well Gorton has deep knowledge on most of the Rangers prospects.
RE: From Staple in the Athletic 30 minutes ago  
Will Shine : 1:56 pm : link
In comment 15745123 Snablats said:
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"Two league sources told The Athletic that Chytil has been the most talked-about Ranger in Drury’s various trade conversations and that the Rangers are willing to lose Chytil in order to acquire an older, more established top-six center."

"The sources said that Chytil and Kakko could potentially wind up in a deal, though it’s certain Drury would only package them both for the likes of Scheifele or Larkin, and it’s not known if the Rangers and Red Wings have spoken about the Detroit captain, who has one season left at a $6.1 million AAV before hitting unrestricted free agency."

"Shedding Chytil and Kakko, both of whom would need new deals in the next year or two, could be a wash against the salary cap. And the Rangers may see a clearer path for Will Cuylle and Brennan Othmann in the top nine with Chytil and Kakko gone"

Sure sounds like everything I said they should do, trade for the 2C and move Chytil and Kakko to free up the cap space Staple in The Athletic - ( New Window )


Giving up chips for a guy close to Free Agency makes no sense given who they have to renew over the next few years.
Dylan Larkin doesn't move the needle for me at all  
Greg from LI : 2:08 pm : link
Don't see the point there.

Somehow, Rick Bowness got hired to yet another head coaching job.
RE: RE: From Staple in the Athletic 30 minutes ago  
Snablats : 2:26 pm : link
In comment 15745860 Will Shine said:
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In comment 15745123 Snablats said:


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"Two league sources told The Athletic that Chytil has been the most talked-about Ranger in Drury’s various trade conversations and that the Rangers are willing to lose Chytil in order to acquire an older, more established top-six center."

"The sources said that Chytil and Kakko could potentially wind up in a deal, though it’s certain Drury would only package them both for the likes of Scheifele or Larkin, and it’s not known if the Rangers and Red Wings have spoken about the Detroit captain, who has one season left at a $6.1 million AAV before hitting unrestricted free agency."

"Shedding Chytil and Kakko, both of whom would need new deals in the next year or two, could be a wash against the salary cap. And the Rangers may see a clearer path for Will Cuylle and Brennan Othmann in the top nine with Chytil and Kakko gone"

Sure sounds like everything I said they should do, trade for the 2C and move Chytil and Kakko to free up the cap space Staple in The Athletic - ( New Window )



Giving up chips for a guy close to Free Agency makes no sense given who they have to renew over the next few years.

It does when you are going for a title. What other options do they have that are better than Strome/Copp? It sure aint Chytil. Their best 3 forwards are going to age-out in the next few years. Now is the time
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