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pjcas18 : 4/24/2022 11:28 am
A lot of the drama is basically decided in the East.

All 8 playoff teams have clinched, only jockeying for position/seeding is left.

All teams have anywhere from 2 to 4 games left.

As it stands today (games remaining in () at the end):
E1: (Atlantic champ) Panthers 120 pts (clinched 1 seed) (4)
E2: (Metro champ*) Hurricanes 110 pts (*not clinched) (3)
E3: Leafs 109 pts (3)
E4: Rangers 108 pts (3)
E5: Lightning 105 pts (4)
E6: Bruins 101 pts (4)
E7: Pens 101 pts (3)
E8: Caps 99 pts (4)

If nothing changes the 1st round matchups would be:

Panthers vs Caps (A1 vs WC2)
Hurricanes vs Bruins (M1 vs WC1)
Leafs vs Lightning (A2 vs A3)
Rangers vs Pens (M2 vs M3)

If I'm the Rangers I'm fine where I am and they have clinched at worst the 2 seed in the Metro. I'd rather play the Pens than the Bruins.

I will add the West in a separate post (5 teams have clinched and basically 4 teams vying for the final 3 spots).

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RE: Brayden Point  
Jay on the Island : 6/29/2022 9:44 pm : link
In comment 15744107 pjcas18 said:
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played with a torn quad two games in the SCF. He was injured vs Toronto in the first round.

holy shit that had to be painful.

More proof that hockey players are the toughest athletes in sports.
RE: RE: RE: This is the floor  
Jay on the Island : 6/29/2022 9:49 pm : link
In comment 15744090 Stu11 said:
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Wow did the Devil's dodge a bullet there. Not that I was ever that into getting him. You have to be careful evaluating guys who had big point spikes this year. Scoring went through the roof this year. I don't mind the Devils spending for an elite fwd like DeBrincat or Pasta or Johnny Hockey as a UFA. However 8 mill a year for a talent like Fiala just isn't good use of our space right now.

I agree, those 3 are the only three I would be willing to sign for market value and I would add Tkachuk to that list obviously if the Flames re-sign Gaudreau and have to move Tkachuk but I don’t see a chance in hell of that happening.

I don't think they move Tkachuk  
pjcas18 : 6/30/2022 7:53 am : link
but looks like they are close to re-signing Johnny.

Alex Russo
@arusso_9
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Hearing that CAL and Johnny Gaudreau are closing in on a 8 year extension. Will avoid testing the market
I'd rather have Matthew Tkachuk  
pjcas18 : 6/30/2022 7:55 am : link
than Gaudreau.

There are maybe two or three players I'd put above Tkachuk right now.

McDavid, Makar, and then your splitting hairs with anyone ranked above Tkachuk.
Tkachuk  
five5 : 6/30/2022 8:36 am : link
is a really nice player.

PJ…u forgot MacKinnon (who is significantly better)…lol. Also, Tkachuk playing with JG helps his cause a great deal.
MacKinnon  
pjcas18 : 6/30/2022 8:58 am : link
is awesome, as is Barkov, and Huberdeau and Draisaitl - and of course JG and Tkachuk benefit from playing with each other just like McDavid and Draisaitl and Huberdeau and Barkov, etc.

but there are not many players left in the NHL who can put up 100 points and is willing (and able) to drop the gloves. Tkachuk is a unique player. He enabled Gaudreau to be Gaudreau IMO. Along with the goon squad in CAL.
RE: I'd rather have Matthew Tkachuk  
Jay on the Island : 6/30/2022 10:04 am : link
In comment 15744269 pjcas18 said:
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than Gaudreau.


I agree, Tkachuk is one of the few players I would be willing to move the 2nd overall pick for but again the Flames would never go for it. I would be willing to surrender the #2 overall pick, Alexander Holtz, and a couple of 2nd round picks for Tkachuk.
RE: RE: I'd rather have Matthew Tkachuk  
ColHowPepper : 6/30/2022 10:52 am : link
In comment 15744358 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 15744269 pjcas18 said: Quote:
than Gaudreau./////////

I agree, Tkachuk is one of the few players I would be willing to move the 2nd overall pick for but again the Flames would never go for it. I would be willing to surrender the #2 overall pick, Alexander Holtz, and a couple of 2nd round picks for Tkachuk.

What do I know? Nada. But Jay, I don't think that would get it done.
RE: RE: RE: I'd rather have Matthew Tkachuk  
Jay on the Island : 6/30/2022 11:01 am : link
In comment 15744395 ColHowPepper said:
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In comment 15744358 Jay on the Island said:


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In comment 15744269 pjcas18 said: Quote:
than Gaudreau./////////

I agree, Tkachuk is one of the few players I would be willing to move the 2nd overall pick for but again the Flames would never go for it. I would be willing to surrender the #2 overall pick, Alexander Holtz, and a couple of 2nd round picks for Tkachuk.


What do I know? Nada. But Jay, I don't think that would get it done.

It wouldn't get it done.
Tkachuk  
pjcas18 : 6/30/2022 11:16 am : link
is an RFA so consider at a minimum they QO him at 10M.

In order to sign him to an offer sheet you would need to pay 4 first round picks if he accepts it.

I think in a trade, your starting point is 2 or probably 3 1sts and a young player and maybe a veteran player.
Friedman  
pjcas18 : 6/30/2022 3:06 pm : link
says TBL may need to trade McDonagh.

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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27m
TB has some tough choices to make. It's not what they want to do, but what they might have to do


from his 32 thoughts column.....

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According to multiple sources, the Lightning are working with Ryan McDonagh to see if there’s another team he’d consider a trade to. It’s a very, very hard thing for Tampa to think about. McDonagh’s still a tremendous player (he was on the ice for the last shift to preserve the team’s Game 5 victory in Denver that prolonged the Stanley Cup Final) and is hugely popular among his teammates, who were disappointed to hear of the possibility. It’s not what Tampa wants to do, but may have to do.

McDonagh has four seasons remaining on a cap hit of $6.75M, with a full no-trade clause. So he controls his destiny. We will see where it goes, but there are conversations about the future.

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RE: Friedman  
Snablats : 6/30/2022 3:51 pm : link
In comment 15744765 pjcas18 said:
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says TBL may need to trade McDonagh.

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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27m
TB has some tough choices to make. It's not what they want to do, but what they might have to do


from his 32 thoughts column.....



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According to multiple sources, the Lightning are working with Ryan McDonagh to see if there’s another team he’d consider a trade to. It’s a very, very hard thing for Tampa to think about. McDonagh’s still a tremendous player (he was on the ice for the last shift to preserve the team’s Game 5 victory in Denver that prolonged the Stanley Cup Final) and is hugely popular among his teammates, who were disappointed to hear of the possibility. It’s not what Tampa wants to do, but may have to do.

McDonagh has four seasons remaining on a cap hit of $6.75M, with a full no-trade clause. So he controls his destiny. We will see where it goes, but there are conversations about the future.

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He is what the Rangers need defensively, a top LD. But Tampa would have to retain salary, and he is 33
From Staple in the Athletic 30 minutes ago  
Snablats : 6/30/2022 6:33 pm : link
"Two league sources told The Athletic that Chytil has been the most talked-about Ranger in Drury’s various trade conversations and that the Rangers are willing to lose Chytil in order to acquire an older, more established top-six center."

"The sources said that Chytil and Kakko could potentially wind up in a deal, though it’s certain Drury would only package them both for the likes of Scheifele or Larkin, and it’s not known if the Rangers and Red Wings have spoken about the Detroit captain, who has one season left at a $6.1 million AAV before hitting unrestricted free agency."

"Shedding Chytil and Kakko, both of whom would need new deals in the next year or two, could be a wash against the salary cap. And the Rangers may see a clearer path for Will Cuylle and Brennan Othmann in the top nine with Chytil and Kakko gone"

Sure sounds like everything I said they should do, trade for the 2C and move Chytil and Kakko to free up the cap space
Staple in The Athletic - ( New Window )
2C  
five5 : 6/30/2022 6:42 pm : link
Would move Kakko in a heartbeat. Not sure about Chytil. Would be very careful about that
Never lived up to the hype  
pjcas18 : 6/30/2022 8:54 pm : link
but could be a late bloomer/change of scenery guy.

Sportsnet
@Sportsnet
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Oilers winger Jesse Puljujarvi is once again seeking an exit from Edmonton. This time, the club appears willing to oblige the former fourth-overall pick with a trade.
.  
pjcas18 : 6/30/2022 9:12 pm : link
Kevin Weekes
@KevinWeekes
**Keep an eye 👁 on ** While there is no concrete signed deal, sources tell me Rick Tocchet is the leading candidate at present time for the HC of the @NHLJets
. The situation remains fluid, but I’m told it’s Tocchet’s decision to make . @espn
@NHL
#HockeyTwitter
an example  
pjcas18 : 6/30/2022 9:20 pm : link
of just how wrong sometimes scouts can be lol. Someone re-tweeted this today and the guy then went and deleted the original. but, as they say, the internet is forever...

this guy was a paid scout. In fairness, Strome went #3 overall so it's not like he was a late round pick, but how do you miss this bad as a professional? maybe explains his short career as a scout.

actually  
pjcas18 : 6/30/2022 9:23 pm : link
my bad, the internet wins again, that was a fake/photo shop.

lol.
Turns out the Quinn leak was not true or fell apart  
pjcas18 : 6/30/2022 10:32 pm : link
Jim Montgomery is the guy in BOS.

Murls
@mattmurley19
· 11h
Hearing Jim Montgomery is the next coach of the Boston Bruins. Absolute unreal hire!!! #insider @NHLBruins @marinakmaher @FeitsBarstool @spittinchiclets @BizNasty2point0 @ryanwhitney6
.  
pjcas18 : 7/1/2022 8:46 am : link
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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34m
Not sure what’s happening with GM search in SJ, but it appears that the Sharks have made a coaching change. Word late last night was Bob Boughner was informed he will not be returning.
And apparently Drury is very interested in Name Kadri  
Anakim : 7/1/2022 12:52 pm : link
Who would be a fantastic fit, but again, where is this money coming from?
If the Rangers go the route of "better than Copp/Strome"  
Snablats : 7/1/2022 1:22 pm : link
then, as I've said for a month, the money comes from trading Chytil and/or Kakko

And Staple's article I posted yesterday says they are looking into that very scenario
PJ Have you seen this  
Jay on the Island : 7/1/2022 1:23 pm : link
Pierre LeBrun: “There are some who believe that Montreal is waiting to see if the Devils make a move closer to the first round in terms of picking up the phone and asking Montreal what it would take to flip the No.1 and No. 2 picks so that the Devils can make sure they can get their hands on winger Juraj Slafkovsky. But the Devils are telling people ‘if a centre is the best player available in our eyes, we have no problem with taking another centre,’ even though the Devils have Jack Hughes and Nico Hischier.” [TSN]

Corey Pronman with an interesting pick for the Devils here in this mock draft. “If Slafkovsky goes No. 1, it opens up the possibilities. League sources seem somewhat skeptical they will take Wright, or at least they don’t view this as the likeliest scenario.”
RE: One player  
Will Shine : 7/1/2022 1:53 pm : link
In comment 15742698 pjcas18 said:
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teams who need a C should be looking at is Christian Dvorak in MTL.

26 years old, good on the dots, defensively responsible, can play SH and in a pinch PP, with some scoring punch. Under contract the next 3 years @ a fair $4.45M.

more a 40-50pt player than an 80, but with the right linemates can be a 2C.


well Gorton has deep knowledge on most of the Rangers prospects.
RE: From Staple in the Athletic 30 minutes ago  
Will Shine : 7/1/2022 1:56 pm : link
In comment 15745123 Snablats said:
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"Two league sources told The Athletic that Chytil has been the most talked-about Ranger in Drury’s various trade conversations and that the Rangers are willing to lose Chytil in order to acquire an older, more established top-six center."

"The sources said that Chytil and Kakko could potentially wind up in a deal, though it’s certain Drury would only package them both for the likes of Scheifele or Larkin, and it’s not known if the Rangers and Red Wings have spoken about the Detroit captain, who has one season left at a $6.1 million AAV before hitting unrestricted free agency."

"Shedding Chytil and Kakko, both of whom would need new deals in the next year or two, could be a wash against the salary cap. And the Rangers may see a clearer path for Will Cuylle and Brennan Othmann in the top nine with Chytil and Kakko gone"

Sure sounds like everything I said they should do, trade for the 2C and move Chytil and Kakko to free up the cap space Staple in The Athletic - ( New Window )


Giving up chips for a guy close to Free Agency makes no sense given who they have to renew over the next few years.
Dylan Larkin doesn't move the needle for me at all  
Greg from LI : 7/1/2022 2:08 pm : link
Don't see the point there.

Somehow, Rick Bowness got hired to yet another head coaching job.
RE: RE: From Staple in the Athletic 30 minutes ago  
Snablats : 7/1/2022 2:26 pm : link
In comment 15745860 Will Shine said:
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In comment 15745123 Snablats said:


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"Two league sources told The Athletic that Chytil has been the most talked-about Ranger in Drury’s various trade conversations and that the Rangers are willing to lose Chytil in order to acquire an older, more established top-six center."

"The sources said that Chytil and Kakko could potentially wind up in a deal, though it’s certain Drury would only package them both for the likes of Scheifele or Larkin, and it’s not known if the Rangers and Red Wings have spoken about the Detroit captain, who has one season left at a $6.1 million AAV before hitting unrestricted free agency."

"Shedding Chytil and Kakko, both of whom would need new deals in the next year or two, could be a wash against the salary cap. And the Rangers may see a clearer path for Will Cuylle and Brennan Othmann in the top nine with Chytil and Kakko gone"

Sure sounds like everything I said they should do, trade for the 2C and move Chytil and Kakko to free up the cap space Staple in The Athletic - ( New Window )



Giving up chips for a guy close to Free Agency makes no sense given who they have to renew over the next few years.

It does when you are going for a title. What other options do they have that are better than Strome/Copp? It sure aint Chytil. Their best 3 forwards are going to age-out in the next few years. Now is the time
Opps.  
St. Jimmy : 7/1/2022 8:49 pm : link
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Trade  
Jay on the Island : 7/3/2022 2:00 pm : link
Nashville acquired Ryan McDonagh from Tampa Bay for D Philippe Myers and F Grant Mismash.
Sounds like as expected Chicago wants a king's ransom for DeBrincat  
Stu11 : 7/3/2022 4:23 pm : link
Word is they turned down an offer of a high first rounder, a future first and a prospect. Word is the Flyers may be interested. As the Devs I don't think I'd trade #2 and next year's first and a guy like Holtz. Too much chance we'll be right back in the lottery next year. I'd think about #2, 2024 first and Holtz though.
RE: Trade  
ColHowPepper : 7/3/2022 11:29 pm : link
In comment 15746767 Jay on the Island said:
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Nashville acquired Ryan McDonagh from Tampa Bay for D Philippe Myers and F Grant Mismash.

Don't like seeing this for McDonagh; maybe pj or someone else can say how high or low McDonagh is being valued for Myers/Mismash as I don't know the players, but my gut tells me the transaction is a step closer to a slippery slope for #27, one of my favorite players
With what is happening with the Flyers goalie prospect Fedotov  
Stu11 : 7/4/2022 12:01 am : link
In Russia, it's going to give teams real pause to draft any Russians high on Thursday or Friday. Word is now he's being sent to an Arctic outpost which is the worst punishment assignment for a Russian soldier at the behest of the owner of his KHL team who is buddy buddy with Putin. How sick is what goes on there?
RE: With what is happening with the Flyers goalie prospect Fedotov  
Anakim : 7/4/2022 12:24 am : link
In comment 15746940 Stu11 said:
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In Russia, it's going to give teams real pause to draft any Russians high on Thursday or Friday. Word is now he's being sent to an Arctic outpost which is the worst punishment assignment for a Russian soldier at the behest of the owner of his KHL team who is buddy buddy with Putin. How sick is what goes on there?


What's worse: the Arctic or Siberia?
RE: With what is happening with the Flyers goalie prospect Fedotov  
pjcas18 : 7/4/2022 12:35 pm : link
In comment 15746940 Stu11 said:
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In Russia, it's going to give teams real pause to draft any Russians high on Thursday or Friday. Word is now he's being sent to an Arctic outpost which is the worst punishment assignment for a Russian soldier at the behest of the owner of his KHL team who is buddy buddy with Putin. How sick is what goes on there?

I read that all Russian draft eligibles who would have gone in the first two rounds are pushed about a half round later and the player who would have been later round picks won't be drafted.

Some team will get very lucky if they get Danila Yurov in the 2nd round or Miroschnichenko late 2nd/3rd.

most of these guys being drafted now are 2 years away, so I wouldn't over draft them obviously but I wouldn't be shy about taking a Russian player.
RE: RE: With what is happening with the Flyers goalie prospect Fedotov  
Jay on the Island : 7/4/2022 6:52 pm : link
In comment 15747055 pjcas18 said:
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I read that all Russian draft eligibles who would have gone in the first two rounds are pushed about a half round later and the player who would have been later round picks won't be drafted.

Some team will get very lucky if they get Danila Yurov in the 2nd round or Miroschnichenko late 2nd/3rd.

most of these guys being drafted now are 2 years away, so I wouldn't over draft them obviously but I wouldn't be shy about taking a Russian player.

Yesterday I read that some owners have told their GM’s to not draft Russian’s this year while others will operate as usual. We will see a record number of late russian steals this year IMO.
8 figures for Kadri?  
pjcas18 : 7/4/2022 7:04 pm : link
holy shit, please do it Bruins. I like him, but 2022 was such an outlier for him (at 31) who knows if it's a mirage.

NHL Watcher
@NHL_Watcher
· 3h
Kypreos on Kadri: "The number I hear is it starts at 8 and it could go as high as $10M, the teams that I'm hearing out there, two teams that can stroke that cheque right now are Seattle and the Boston Bruins".
RE: 8 figures for Kadri?  
Anakim : 7/4/2022 7:41 pm : link
In comment 15747217 pjcas18 said:
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holy shit, please do it Bruins. I like him, but 2022 was such an outlier for him (at 31) who knows if it's a mirage.

NHL Watcher
@NHL_Watcher
· 3h
Kypreos on Kadri: "The number I hear is it starts at 8 and it could go as high as $10M, the teams that I'm hearing out there, two teams that can stroke that cheque right now are Seattle and the Boston Bruins".


Rangers are out. Can't afford that.


Also, it sounds like they might be losing Mike Grier to the Sharks
Surprising comments by Kypreos on the McDonagh to Nashville trade  
Anakim : 7/4/2022 7:43 pm : link
McDonagh has a NTC (not a NMC clause) and wasn't too keen on going to Nashville, but Lightning brass basically told him that if he didn't agree to the trade to Nashville, they were going to waive him (remember, NTC, not NMC) and they had an arrangement with Columbus whereby the Blue Jackets would claim McDonagh off waivers.
Weekes is solid  
pjcas18 : 7/4/2022 7:48 pm : link
but isn't the draft this week? in 3 days?

Kevin Weekes
@KevinWeekes
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11m
I’m told the @EdmontonOilers
are actively shopping F Jesse Puljujarvi, and there’s some interest from clubs in market for his services. Curious to see if there’s a match for potential deal between now and next week’s Entry Draft. @espn
@NHL
#HockeyTwitter
.  
pjcas18 : 7/4/2022 8:03 pm : link
Kevin Weekes
@KevinWeekes
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1m
**Keep an eye 👁 on ** J.T Miller has flourished out in Van City. Better than a point per game during his tenure there, he too as a Power Skill Forward is drawing plenty of interest in the Trade Market, although 1 Yr 5.25M left in his deal. @espn
@NHL
#HockeyTwitter
Would be so Drury  
ColHowPepper : 7/4/2022 9:46 pm : link
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**Keep an eye 👁 on ** J.T Miller has flourished out in Van City. Better than a point per game during his tenure there, he too as a Power Skill Forward is drawing plenty of interest in the Trade Market, although 1 Yr 5.25M left in his deal. @espn
@NHL
#HockeyTwitter
And then JT Miller is driven off the lot and devalues to a Strome redux, but less
JT Miller  
five5 : 7/5/2022 1:15 am : link
Not sure if the NYR can afford him but any team that can would be interested in him. He is one of the top power forwards in the league.
deBrusk  
pjcas18 : 7/5/2022 9:07 am : link
has rescinded his trade request. He finished up strong, I wonder if there was a rift with Cassidy.
I think today through Thursday the trade market will peak  
Stu11 : 7/5/2022 9:16 am : link
Last year you had some big trades the day before and day of the draft. I think a good chance Philly trades #5 for a vet, maybe even DeBrincat. I've heard mixed things on DeBrincat- like I posted I heard they turned down a monster offer, then I read where they won't get nearly that of they trade him. They really are a case study of why not to give guys lifetime NMC's. They'd be much better off trading Lane to.rebuild and doing it around the cat, but they can't move him or Toews with their NMCs. I'm thinking it's less and less possible the Devs will trade the pick. Now I read Pronman and Wheeler in the athletic and they have me loving Slaf again lol. Saw rumors of Bratt/#2 for JT Miller. Not into that at all. He's a good player, but closing in on 30, with only one year left on the contract he doesn't fit our timeline at all.
Meant to say trading "Patrick Kane"  
Stu11 : 7/5/2022 9:18 am : link
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I think DeBrincat  
pjcas18 : 7/5/2022 9:21 am : link
is more movable than Toews or Kane and for good value in return.

DeBrincat is an RFA after this season at a good number for this year.

Toews and Kane each have one year left at a huge number and then are UFA's.

I think Toews and Kane will be deadline deals unless CHI eats a lot of salary.
Time for a new thread  
Maryland Blows : 7/5/2022 11:13 am : link
NHL Draft, FA and Trades
RE: Time for a new thread  
pjcas18 : 7/5/2022 11:16 am : link
In comment 15747418 Maryland Blows said:
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NHL Draft, FA and Trades


start one, up, we can let this one die...
RE: I think today through Thursday the trade market will peak  
Jay on the Island : 7/5/2022 11:38 am : link
In comment 15747355 Stu11 said:
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Saw rumors of Bratt/#2 for JT Miller. Not into that at all. He's a good player, but closing in on 30, with only one year left on the contract he doesn't fit our timeline at all.

Holy shit if Fitzgerald is even considering that then he should be fired. Miller is a great player but he’s 29 and 5 years older than Bratt. Bratt will have more value moving forward. I wouldn’t make that trade straight up but it’s an awful move to also include the #2 pick as well unless Garland and a pick was coming back as well.
RE: RE: Time for a new thread  
ColHowPepper : 7/5/2022 11:50 am : link
In comment 15747420 pjcas18 said:
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start one, up, we can let this one die...

RIP, thread, you and pj served us well.
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