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pjcas18 : 4/24/2022 11:28 am
A lot of the drama is basically decided in the East.

All 8 playoff teams have clinched, only jockeying for position/seeding is left.

All teams have anywhere from 2 to 4 games left.

As it stands today (games remaining in () at the end):
E1: (Atlantic champ) Panthers 120 pts (clinched 1 seed) (4)
E2: (Metro champ*) Hurricanes 110 pts (*not clinched) (3)
E3: Leafs 109 pts (3)
E4: Rangers 108 pts (3)
E5: Lightning 105 pts (4)
E6: Bruins 101 pts (4)
E7: Pens 101 pts (3)
E8: Caps 99 pts (4)

If nothing changes the 1st round matchups would be:

Panthers vs Caps (A1 vs WC2)
Hurricanes vs Bruins (M1 vs WC1)
Leafs vs Lightning (A2 vs A3)
Rangers vs Pens (M2 vs M3)

If I'm the Rangers I'm fine where I am and they have clinched at worst the 2 seed in the Metro. I'd rather play the Pens than the Bruins.

I will add the West in a separate post (5 teams have clinched and basically 4 teams vying for the final 3 spots).

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RE: Calgary  
Stu11 : 11:28 pm : link
In comment 15709730 pjcas18 said:
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is absolutely dominating this game in every facet except the one that matters.

Good lord 42-12 in shots after 2. It truly is what makes Hockey unique as opposed to the other sports. You can absolutely do into the other team from 1-18 amongst the skater, but one player on the other team can literally steal the game.
Jake Oettinger  
pjcas18 : 11:43 pm : link
is having an all-time great goalie playoff game, he has been unreal.
RE: RE: I agree Jay  
pjcas18 : 11:58 pm : link
In comment 15709743 Stu11 said:
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I think the NHL draft is 99.999% of the time about something we say here for the NFL draft, but is much more real in the NHL: "Best Player Available"

I can't remember ever hearing an NHL team say they have too many good D or too many centers.

trades are a lot more common/easier in the NHL because contracts are all guaranteed


Oh I agree but it's really hard to differentiate who is the BPA in the next group of 4 players after Wright. I still think the Devs go Slaf. His size and skill on the wing at his age will be too enticing to pass up.


hard to say and not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing. I think it's good.

I'd probably go Cooley, he plays C and and plays what they call a "defensively responsible" game. He's just not physically big.

Slafkovsky had a great olympics, I just don't know if that's what you will get with him in the NHL, but....6'4 220 at 18 is rare

So many options after Wright all have pros and cons.
Johnny Gaudreau  
pjcas18 : 5/16/2022 12:05 am : link
and Matthew Tkachuk have each been robbed no shit 3 or 4 times on point blank gimmes by Oettinger.
Two game 7 OT's  
pjcas18 : 5/16/2022 12:16 am : link
nice...
I honestly can't explain how Calgary didn't just score  
Stu11 : 5/16/2022 12:57 am : link
In that sequence
And fittingly Gaudreau ends the classic  
Stu11 : 5/16/2022 1:01 am : link
All time performance but Oettinger. 60 saved.
So we have an all-Florida matchup and an all-Alberta matchup  
Anakim : 5/16/2022 6:50 am : link
Avalanche-Blues will be the best series, IMO. That's going to be so much fun to watch. I think they're the top-2 teams in the West so seeing them battle it out in this round will be awesome.
First playoff edition of the Battle of Alberta in 31 years  
Greg from LI : 5/16/2022 8:21 am : link
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Pretty exciting second round  
Anakim : 5/16/2022 10:08 am : link
All-Florida
All-Alberta
The top-2 teams in the West, IMO, playing against each other
And of course, our team playing against the Jerks, which includes a bunch of our former players.


Exciting shit. I'll go with Panthers in 6, Avalanche in 7, Flames in 7 and...YOU ALREADY KNOW.
for youngsters like Anak  
Greg from LI : 5/16/2022 10:40 am : link
Check out some of those old late 1980s Oilers-Flames playoff games on YouTube. Those were serious heavyweight bouts.
First Battle of Alberta for me  
Kyle in NY : 5/16/2022 10:44 am : link
Was pulling hard for the Flames in OT to get that matchup. Oettinger put on an all-time performance, felt like it was never going to happen for Calgary

I don't think I realized how good a season Johnny Gaudreau had, just seeing less of the west coast teams. Always was a very good player, but he puts up 115 points in a contract year. Time to get paid. Fun player
RE: for youngsters like Anak  
Anakim : 5/16/2022 10:45 am : link
In comment 15709997 Greg from LI said:
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Check out some of those old late 1980s Oilers-Flames playoff games on YouTube. Those were serious heavyweight bouts.


The old Lanny MacDonald series?
Among others  
Greg from LI : 5/16/2022 10:57 am : link
Flames in those years had guys like Al MacInnis, Hakan Loob (kind of forgotten today but was a high scoring winger), Joey Mullen, Doug Gilmour, Gary Suter, Gary Roberts, Joe Nieuwendyk, Joel Otto (who was one of the best defensive centers of the era). Had the young Brett Hull too but traded him away as a rookie for...uh....reasons?
.  
pjcas18 : 5/16/2022 11:35 am : link
Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
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Lane Lambert has been named head coach of the New York Islanders. He would have had opportunities elsewhere.
Golden Knights fired HC Pete DeBoer  
Anakim : 5/16/2022 12:06 pm : link
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At the worlds  
pjcas18 : 5/16/2022 3:01 pm : link
USA losing 4 - 0 to Finland (halfway though the 2nd). Finland has no one special on their team (Joel Armia, Mikael Granlund, Valtteri Flippula - I think that's it for NHLers) USA is just bad. though 3 of Finland's 4 goals came on the PP.

Canada beat Slovakia 5 - 1
Latvia beat Norway 3 - 2
USA lost  
pjcas18 : 5/16/2022 3:54 pm : link
4 - 1. avoided the shutout with a Galchenyuk goal.
Surprised he's even doubtful  
pjcas18 : 5/16/2022 3:56 pm : link
that looked like a torn ACL.

NHL.com
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Brayden Point is doubtful for Game 1 of the Eastern Conference Second Round when the Lightning visit the Panthers on Tuesday.

The forward has a lower-body injury.
RE: I agree Jay  
Jay on the Island : 5/16/2022 6:37 pm : link
In comment 15709624 pjcas18 said:
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I think the NHL draft is 99.999% of the time about something we say here for the NFL draft, but is much more real in the NHL: "Best Player Available"

I can't remember ever hearing an NHL team say they have too many good D or too many centers.

trades are a lot more common/easier in the NHL because contracts are all guaranteed

Yeah you can never have too many of either. If you have too many centers then all you have to do is move some to wing. Cooley may be small but he is a good defender which is why I am leaning towards him being the #2 pick. Slafkovsky is very talented but as you mentioned he was only really great during the Olympics which concerns me. Was it just a hot streak that he won't ever match again or is it a sign of things to come?

As for the Devils defense the only long term pieces IMO are Hamilton, Luke Hughes, and Siegenthaler. They have several promising D prospects (Bahl, Mukhamadullin, Walsh, Okhotiuk) but none of them look like sure thing top 4 players. If Nemec is the BPA then I would be very happy with him.

Goaltending is their biggest need but unfortunately there aren't any worth of a 1st round pick. I still hope they land one in the 2nd or 3rd.
RE: RE: I agree Jay  
Stu11 : 5/16/2022 7:11 pm : link
In comment 15710611 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 15709624 pjcas18 said:


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I think the NHL draft is 99.999% of the time about something we say here for the NFL draft, but is much more real in the NHL: "Best Player Available"

I can't remember ever hearing an NHL team say they have too many good D or too many centers.

trades are a lot more common/easier in the NHL because contracts are all guaranteed


Yeah you can never have too many of either. If you have too many centers then all you have to do is move some to wing. Cooley may be small but he is a good defender which is why I am leaning towards him being the #2 pick. Slafkovsky is very talented but as you mentioned he was only really great during the Olympics which concerns me. Was it just a hot streak that he won't ever match again or is it a sign of things to come?

As for the Devils defense the only long term pieces IMO are Hamilton, Luke Hughes, and Siegenthaler. They have several promising D prospects (Bahl, Mukhamadullin, Walsh, Okhotiuk) but none of them look like sure thing top 4 players. If Nemec is the BPA then I would be very happy with him.

Goaltending is their biggest need but unfortunately there aren't any worth of a 1st round pick. I still hope they land one in the 2nd or 3rd.

I'd like to see the Devs sign Graves to an extension this summer. I agree man that #2 pick is a tough. From what I've read Slaf has been impressive at the Worlds. Getting top line minutes. Nemec is so intriguing too. I almost wish it was like the NFL and we could trade back 2 or 3 spots and add an asset or two. Honestly from what I'm reading I don't think you go wrong with any of the 3. Btw evidently Slaf impressed In his league playoffs. Nemec sounds like he is able to get top pairing minutes in his league as an 18 year old and was really impressive offensively in his playoffs.
Jay it sounds like Campbell is not likely to return to Toronto  
Stu11 : 5/16/2022 7:14 pm : link
They really low balled him with their first offer. I'd be interested in him for the Devs. A tandem of him and Blackwood could work. Hopefully one of the would grab the reigns but even if not we could have a Carolina type situation. I though he held up well vs Tampa. They lost game 7 because they're scorers disappeared.
RE: RE: RE: I agree Jay  
Jay on the Island : 5/16/2022 7:16 pm : link
In comment 15710639 Stu11 said:
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I'd like to see the Devs sign Graves to an extension this summer. I agree man that #2 pick is a tough. From what I've read Slaf has been impressive at the Worlds. Getting top line minutes. Nemec is so intriguing too. I almost wish it was like the NFL and we could trade back 2 or 3 spots and add an asset or two. Honestly from what I'm reading I don't think you go wrong with any of the 3. Btw evidently Slaf impressed In his league playoffs. Nemec sounds like he is able to get top pairing minutes in his league as an 18 year old and was really impressive offensively in his playoffs.

I would be happy to trade down to 4 if they could land Seattle's 1st next year but I seriously doubt that Seattle do that. Take whoever if leftover at 4 between Cooley, Slafkovsky, and Nemec at 4.
RE: Jay it sounds like Campbell is not likely to return to Toronto  
Jay on the Island : 5/16/2022 7:17 pm : link
In comment 15710643 Stu11 said:
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They really low balled him with their first offer. I'd be interested in him for the Devs. A tandem of him and Blackwood could work. Hopefully one of the would grab the reigns but even if not we could have a Carolina type situation. I though he held up well vs Tampa. They lost game 7 because they're scorers disappeared.

I wanted him earlier in the year but he really struggled during the second half. He did play very well in the playoffs so I would still like the Devils to land him if he's willing to sign a 1-2 year deal.
Friedman reporting  
Diversify yo bonds : 5/17/2022 5:13 pm : link
... That Trotz interviewed with Winnipeg today.

This would lend credence to the closer to home theory if he takes that job over Vegas bucks.
Mike Smith  
pjcas18 : 5/18/2022 10:03 pm : link
Yanked in CAL. the flames scored three goals in 6 min
RE: Mike Smith  
Anakim : 5/19/2022 12:14 am : link
In comment 15712933 pjcas18 said:
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Yanked in CAL. the flames scored three goals in 6 min


WTF is going on in that game? It's 8-6 Flames in the third period
9-6 final....insane  
Greg from LI : 5/19/2022 2:49 am : link
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9-6 wow  
MyNameIsMyName : 5/19/2022 6:03 am : link
Glad to see the Canes pull it out
That battle of  
pjcas18 : 5/19/2022 9:53 am : link
Alberta game 1 was awesome.

a little bit of everything.

If I'm starting a team today and have to pick either McDavid or Tkachuk it's not as easy a decision as people think. It's probably still McDavid, but Tkachuk can put a hat trick, and kick your ass - like an old school hockey throw back.

and he hits like a truck.

Lucic is still a dick, but CAL has so much sandpaper, grit and skill - more than any team I remember.

RE: That battle of  
Jay on the Island : 5/19/2022 11:39 am : link
In comment 15713161 pjcas18 said:
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Alberta game 1 was awesome.

a little bit of everything.

If I'm starting a team today and have to pick either McDavid or Tkachuk it's not as easy a decision as people think. It's probably still McDavid, but Tkachuk can put a hat trick, and kick your ass - like an old school hockey throw back.

and he hits like a truck.

Lucic is still a dick, but CAL has so much sandpaper, grit and skill - more than any team I remember.

I really wish that the Devils could get Tkachuk from Calgary. He is one of the few plays I would love to give up the #2 pick for. Obviously it would cost more than that but I would happily give up that pick plus Alexander Holtz, and another piece for Tkachuk.
RE: RE: That battle of  
pjcas18 : 5/19/2022 12:03 pm : link
In comment 15713330 Jay on the Island said:
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Alberta game 1 was awesome.

a little bit of everything.

If I'm starting a team today and have to pick either McDavid or Tkachuk it's not as easy a decision as people think. It's probably still McDavid, but Tkachuk can put a hat trick, and kick your ass - like an old school hockey throw back.

and he hits like a truck.

Lucic is still a dick, but CAL has so much sandpaper, grit and skill - more than any team I remember.



I really wish that the Devils could get Tkachuk from Calgary. He is one of the few plays I would love to give up the #2 pick for. Obviously it would cost more than that but I would happily give up that pick plus Alexander Holtz, and another piece for Tkachuk.


I'd trade #1 overall for Tkachuk, but MTL won't.
Holy fuck!  
Anakim : 5/19/2022 9:32 pm : link
The Lightning just scored the GWG with less than a second to go in the game. Weeger is a moron. That's a braindead, stupid-ass play.
RE: Holy fuck!  
Anakim : 5/19/2022 9:32 pm : link
In comment 15713975 Anakim said:
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The Lightning just scored the GWG with less than a second to go in the game. Weeger is a moron. That's a braindead, stupid-ass play.


*4 seconds
.....  
BrettNYG10 : 5/19/2022 9:36 pm : link
TB showing the value of playoff experience. I thought the Panthers deserved to win.

Crushing loss.
Yep  
Greg from LI : 5/19/2022 9:38 pm : link
Wouldn't surprise me if Tampa sweeps now.
I like  
pjcas18 : 5/19/2022 9:42 pm : link
Huberdeau and Barkov, but even throughout the Capitals series I was constantly wondering how they were the 1 seed with a whopping + 94 goal differential. they just seem solid but not great.

Binnington  
pjcas18 : 5/20/2022 8:08 am : link
Looking like 2019(?)

And the Blues suffocate the AVs. Tie up that series.

Looked like Makar tore his ACL good to see him finish the game. Hope he’s ok.
Rick Bowness is down in Dallas  
Anakim : 5/20/2022 1:55 pm : link
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I still can't believe Bowness was still a head coach  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2022 2:56 pm : link
Guy has had how many chances? And never done much of anything with any of them?
In 12 seasons  
pjcas18 : 5/20/2022 3:17 pm : link
(full or partial) as a coach, Bowness teams have made the playoffs three times.

he did lose in the SCF once (to TBL with the Stars), but he's the epitome of a retread
RE: I still can't believe Bowness was still a head coach  
Jay on the Island : 5/20/2022 3:35 pm : link
In comment 15714478 Greg from LI said:
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Guy has had how many chances? And never done much of anything with any of them?

I couldn't either. He has a career winning % of .391
Binnington  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2022 9:03 pm : link
out for STL, Kadri drove the net and bowled him over.
Binnington  
pjcas18 : 5/22/2022 12:50 pm : link
out the rest of the series (at least).

Huge loss. Husso had a good year and in fact I believe leapfrogged Binnington as the starter but Binnington had been lights out in the playoffs and wasn't likely getting benched.

Technically Kadri did nothing wrong, much in the way Kreider did nothing wrong vs the Habs but having played as long as I have I feel like players sometimes look for the soft landing - picking goalie over post/boards. Not saying 100% in either case there was any intent, but also not much effort at avoidance (though in Kreider's case admittedly it would have been harder at his speed).
the latest in the Worlds  
pjcas18 : 5/22/2022 1:00 pm : link
USA beats Sweden in OT - their first "real" win of the tournament IMO.

they play the Czech's today - with Pastrnak, Hertl, Krejci, Vrana, Horonek, Kempny, (and Jiricek - 2022 draft top 5 rated prospect)

USA added Swayman and Merrill. Too bad no McAvoy or Grzelcyk
Girard  
pjcas18 : 5/22/2022 2:37 pm : link
out too - broken sternum (so painful), he was hit by Barbashev (penalty called)
Vasilevskiy is unbelievable  
Diversify yo bonds : 5/22/2022 3:02 pm : link
Fla has a textbook powerplay with half a dozen grade a chances and he shuts the door with an assist from macD.

Minutes later Stamkos scores and it's 3-1
RE: Vasilevskiy is unbelievable  
pjcas18 : 5/22/2022 3:07 pm : link
In comment 15715649 Diversify yo bonds said:
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Fla has a textbook powerplay with half a dozen grade a chances and he shuts the door with an assist from macD.

Minutes later Stamkos scores and it's 3-1


So, good and mobile for his size.
Vas reminds me of a story I heard a HOF'er tell months back  
Stu11 : 5/22/2022 6:37 pm : link
about the '76-79 Canadiens. He was like you somehow get by Cournoyer, Gainey, Lemaire, Larry Robinson, Guy Lapointe, Serge Savard, and Lafleur and then Ken friggen Dryden is waiting for you! Same with Lightning. You somehow get past all their elite skaters and then all you have is a probable future HOF'er in Vas waiting for you.
The Oilers are spanking the Flames  
Anakim : 5/22/2022 9:38 pm : link
That asshole Evander Kane just scored a hatty. He and McDavid have been unstoppable in the 2nd Period.
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