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4th Round (b): New York Giants Select S Dane Belton

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/30/2022 12:30 pm
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from PFF - he played a lot of slot (536 snaps)  
Eric on Li : 4/30/2022 12:31 pm : link
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Belton is a young, ascending ball hawk on the back end. Filling the slot for Iowa last year, he nabbed five picks and broke up eight more passes.


#140 on Jeremiah's top 150.
also a phenomenal athlete  
Eric on Li : 4/30/2022 12:32 pm : link
this 10 yard split is the same as Wan'Dale - and that time is probably top 3-5 for 10 yard splits in the whole draft. Apparently a stat we like.

He was on my short list of Day 3 S's  
Mike in NY : 4/30/2022 12:33 pm : link
Even if I would have gambled on him being there in Round 5, I have no issue with the pick here
Another guy I don’t anything about  
Anakim : 4/30/2022 12:35 pm : link
But alright, cool
Jeremiah likes him close to the LOS and says great ball skills  
Eric on Li : 4/30/2022 12:35 pm : link
played in a lot of different alignments. seems jalen pitre-ish.

If he was so good, he would have been picked yesterday.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/30/2022 12:35 pm : link
He sucks.
Targeting athleticism early Day 3  
AcesUp : 4/30/2022 12:36 pm : link
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Versatility seems like a big theme here  
Sean : 4/30/2022 12:36 pm : link
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Sy  
RicFlair : 4/30/2022 12:36 pm : link
“ 114 / NYG: Dane Belton - S/Iowa

Similar player to former Hawkeye Geno Stone - who was drafted by BAL when Martindale was the DC. Easy to see the comparisons when it comes to body type, tackling success rate, and smarts.”
https://twitter.com/ourlads_sy/status/1520441316991451136?s=21&t=hjTbt4Fnn_7wJNYk2IuUaA - ( New Window )
Sounds  
Toth029 : 4/30/2022 12:36 pm : link
Like a versatile kid.

"A first-team All-Big Ten defensive back, Belton recorded five interceptions and five tackles while playing “Cash,” a hybrid safety-linebacker position in Iowa’s defense, during his final season as a Hawkeye."
Pro Bowl  
I Love Clams Casino : 4/30/2022 12:36 pm : link
as a rookie. You heard it here first
RE: If he was so good, he would have been picked yesterday.  
Mike from SI : 4/30/2022 12:37 pm : link
In comment 15692050 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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He sucks.


I'm looking forward to when someone doesn't realize you're being sarcastic.
6th round projection  
jeff57 : 4/30/2022 12:37 pm : link
Belton's interception total and overall ball production from Iowa's hybrid "Cash" spot certainly grab your attention, but they might not be indicative of his NFL projection. Belton has average size, can line up over tight ends and excels in short-zone coverages, where his ball skills and anticipation bring him to the action. He lacks the suddenness to stay with route breaks underneath and will be exploited if asked to cover on the back end. Belton has the physical ability for run support, but defensive coordinators are sure to be concerned about his trouble reading keys and locating the football on the collegiate level.
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RE: Sounds  
UConn4523 : 4/30/2022 12:38 pm : link
In comment 15692055 Toth029 said:
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Like a versatile kid.

"A first-team All-Big Ten defensive back, Belton recorded five interceptions and five tackles while playing “Cash,” a hybrid safety-linebacker position in Iowa’s defense, during his final season as a Hawkeye."


This is a very interesting snippet with Wink now here.
RE: If he was so good, he would have been picked yesterday.  
I Love Clams Casino : 4/30/2022 12:38 pm : link
In comment 15692050 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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He sucks.


LOL
Seems like a couple of nice valley picks.  
Blue Dream : 4/30/2022 12:38 pm : link
Hopefully taking some of the bad taste out of people's months from yesterday.
Definitely  
Sammo85 : 4/30/2022 12:40 pm : link
a Wink influence and scheme fit. Also addresses a S depth concern.
DANE BELTON DB IOWA | NFL DRAFT PROFILE & SCOUTING REPORT  
solarmike : 4/30/2022 12:40 pm : link
Another solid pick.
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RE: Targeting athleticism early Day 3  
AcidTest : 4/30/2022 12:40 pm : link
In comment 15692052 AcesUp said:
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And versatility.

We have noting at safety. The situation is so bad there were talks about moving Bradberry to that position, and Jarren Williams has already had snaps there.
RE: Another guy I don’t anything about  
Giantology : 4/30/2022 12:40 pm : link
In comment 15692046 Anakim said:
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But alright, cool


Cmon bro, you’re slacking. If you want to be a GM you need to know all these guys
FWIW  
Will Shine : 4/30/2022 12:41 pm : link
Iowa had a good D
RE: If he was so good, he would have been picked yesterday.  
PatersonPlank : 4/30/2022 12:41 pm : link
In comment 15692050 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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He sucks.


LOL, drinking already I see :)
Jeff apparently doesn’t understand  
Dave on the UWS : 4/30/2022 12:42 pm : link
that they are picking players that fit their systems, not the perfect 4 th rounder on someone’s Big board.
Someone on ESPN just said . . .  
TheManUpstairs : 4/30/2022 12:42 pm : link
"The Giants are doing some good work here."
Fourth round projection on this site  
jeff57 : 4/30/2022 12:42 pm : link
Iowa safety Dane Belton projects as a rotational safety and subpackage defender at the NFL level. Belton boasts the size of a traditional strong safety but his role in the Iowa defense has been primarily as a nickel defender charged with playing a pseudo-linebacker role and taking reps on the hash in zone coverage. Belton is at his best getting involved in run fits and playing in the shallow areas of the field as an add-on who can zone up shallow spaces if needed on passing downs.
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Jeremiah likes him, Zierlein doesn’t.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/30/2022 12:43 pm : link
I guess Schoen gets the tie-breaking vote… and the only one that matters.
RE: RE: Another guy I don’t anything about  
Anakim : 4/30/2022 12:43 pm : link
In comment 15692075 Giantology said:
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In comment 15692046 Anakim said:


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But alright, cool



Cmon bro, you’re slacking. If you want to be a GM you need to know all these guys


I know. I got to be on top of these things.
RE: Versatility seems like a big theme here  
Spiciest Memelord : 4/30/2022 12:44 pm : link
In comment 15692053 Sean said:
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I think they are letting different people make the picks different days, hearkens back to the days when Reese would pick JPP type players and Coughlin would pick BC/Syracuse players.
I Just know this…  
morrison40 : 4/30/2022 12:44 pm : link
Whenever I put a belt on , it’s a ….DANE BELTON !
Nice DB depth  
MotownGIANTS : 4/30/2022 12:44 pm : link
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Never heard of him lol  
JB_in_DC : 4/30/2022 12:46 pm : link
But he's athletic.

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Kent Lee Platte
@MathBomb
Dane Belton is a SS prospect in the 2022 draft class. He scored a 9.35 RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 52 out of 788 SS from 1987 to 2022. https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=21648&pos=SS #RAS


Elite speed, meh agility. Get this kid running downhill, attacking, in a straight line.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/30/2022 12:46 pm : link
Sy'56's Scouting Report on S Dane Belton: Junior entry from Tampa, FL. Two-year starter that earned All Big-10 honors in both 2020 and 2021, first team in 2021. Belton played a hybrid safety/linebacker role that saw him involved in the box more often than not. He has a sturdy, strong frame with plus-power and straight line speed. He factors well in pursuit sideline to sideline and had a high success rate as a tackler. Belton started to turn a corner as a junior in coverage. He showed quality ball skills and plus-body control out of his breaks. He shows minimal wasted motion once he made up his mind. He can get into trouble when trying to forecast routes and throws, as he seems a step behind mentally and shows tightness in his hips laterally. He projects as a nickel or dime safety that can creep up toward the line and he will be a weapon on special teams.
Sy  
JoeyBigBlue : 4/30/2022 12:47 pm : link
Has a 68 grade on him. Seems like a reach.
Can Belton...  
bw in dc : 4/30/2022 12:47 pm : link
slide down to the slot and/or cover a TE?
RE: If he was so good, he would have been picked yesterday.  
Since1976 : 4/30/2022 12:48 pm : link
In comment 15692050 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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He sucks.


You are one absolutely miserable SOB. Lol.

Be sure to kick the dog on your way out the door.
Seems to be a good complement  
Spiciest Memelord : 4/30/2022 12:48 pm : link
to McKinney.
RE: Someone on ESPN just said . . .  
Toth029 : 4/30/2022 12:48 pm : link
In comment 15692084 TheManUpstairs said:
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"The Giants are doing some good work here."

Jordan Reid was on there and he likes him, although admits he isn't physically gifted like your typical top S prospect. Relies on instincts a lot.

To me, sounds like a good kid who can come in and compete at a number of spots and fits how Wink disguises his defenses.
Maybe  
Carson53 : 4/30/2022 12:48 pm : link
he can help in sub-packages in Wink's defense?
My guess is he will get time on special teams as well.
They said he has good hands, interesting for a DB.
It's a 4th rd. pick, can't complain about this pick.
RE: Pro Bowl  
NoGainDayne : 4/30/2022 12:48 pm : link
In comment 15692059 I Love Clams Casino said:
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as a rookie. You heard it here first


Is this a serious comment?
I actually remember watching this guy a few times  
PatersonPlank : 4/30/2022 12:48 pm : link
each time I walked away impressed. He was very noticeable on the Iowa defense, always around the ball
Love the pick for SS  
Mr. Nickels : 4/30/2022 12:49 pm : link
Love that he was free from the trade down
Way to go Schoen picking Belton  
Rick in Dallas : 4/30/2022 12:50 pm : link
He’s a very good value in the 4th round.
Sy's rank and grade  
The Mike : 4/30/2022 12:52 pm : link
22: Dane Belton – Iowa – 6’1/205: 68

68-70: Late Day 3 – Back end of roster / Practice Squad / Development guy
No chance.....did Washington picked our Safety 1st  
George from PA : 4/30/2022 12:54 pm : link
Never like when someone takes the same position in front of teh Giants pick
Hate the pick  
Amtoft : 4/30/2022 12:55 pm : link
I mean good tackler… good hands… 4.4 speed for a safety… a 1.49 10 yard split. I mean other than being 4th in all the ncaa last year in Int what has he done! They should have drafted a slower DB that had two picks instead!
So pick 36  
AcesUp : 4/30/2022 12:55 pm : link
Is now Wandale Robinson, Dane Belton and whoever we take at 146 if you're trying to cope with the slot WR pick.
RE: If he was so good, he would have been picked yesterday.  
montanagiant : 4/30/2022 12:55 pm : link
In comment 15692050 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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He sucks.

LMAO!!
RE: Hate the pick  
Jerry's Kids : 4/30/2022 12:59 pm : link
In comment 15692128 Amtoft said:
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I mean good tackler… good hands… 4.4 speed for a safety… a 1.49 10 yard split. I mean other than being 4th in all the ncaa last year in Int what has he done! They should have drafted a slower DB that had two picks instead!


First team Big Ten, they should have drafted an All-American.
RE: Jeff apparently doesn’t understand  
John In CO : 4/30/2022 1:01 pm : link
In comment 15692083 Dave on the UWS said:
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that they are picking players that fit their systems, not the perfect 4 th rounder on someone’s Big board.


Reminds me of some Playoff Fantasy Hockey leagues ive participated in after not seeing more than 5-10 games the entire year. Id just line up the top scorers and pick whoever was highest. That can work for a fantasy team, probably not so much when building an actual team.
Good solid pick  
Rave7 : 4/30/2022 1:02 pm : link
fits Martindale scheme.
Giants are just picking their guy.
Riddick said it before and I agree  
Leg of Theismann : 4/30/2022 1:03 pm : link
When you look at the fact this kid is instinctive, versatile, had too tier combine measurables for his position, AND given Iowa’s history of producing safeties, it does feel like this guy was a relatively overlooked. He doesn’t have that look of a big imposing athletic safety that would go in the 1st or 2nd round and sometimes that’s all it takes for a guy to get overshadowed— he seems to get the job done though and that’s what matters.

I have been told by some on BBI that Schoen will be “another middling GM”, I believe because as we all know he looks at Daniel Jeremiah’s “best available” list, purposely scrolls down to the MIDDLE of the list, closes his eyes and points randomly at a name, then keeps his eyes closed as his assistant jots the name down & submits the card — that way Schoen can be surprised when the pick is announced on TV (he really loves surprises).

But some guys really do slip through the cracks and fall down boards for reasons that don’t make sense in hindsight— luckily even on Daniel Jeremiahs board. Let’s hope Belton was one of those guys!
Stapleton  
RicFlair : 4/30/2022 1:03 pm : link
“ Visits clearly matter with the new Giants regime: Iowa's Dane Belton just told us he took a "30" visit here.”


https://twitter.com/art_stapleton/status/1520448505172615168?s=21&t=hjTbt4Fnn_7wJNYk2IuUaA - ( New Window )
Top* tier  
Leg of Theismann : 4/30/2022 1:03 pm : link
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Great pick  
SleepyOwl : 4/30/2022 1:07 pm : link
I really enjoyed watching how Iowa deployed Belton. The kid can flat out blitz. Not surprisingly Wink’s defense will probably rank top 5 in blitz percentage this year. I would take under on that… Ravens had a 61 percent blitz rate in 2020 which led the league. So yea, the pick makes a ton of sense Im super content with it, now grab a middle linebacker that can shoot some gaps in the 5th.
Giants clearly did their homework  
Sean : 4/30/2022 1:08 pm : link
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Fourth-round pick Dane Belton said he took a pre-draft visit to the Giants. That wasn't previously reported. Again, Giants clearly had targets they identified throughout the process and spent a lot of time with them.
RE: If he was so good, he would have been picked yesterday.  
Jack Stroud : 4/30/2022 1:10 pm : link
In comment 15692050 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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He sucks.
Spot on! Most of the guys picked today have a very small chance of making a roster.
Brugler ranks Belyon number 15 safety  
Rick in Dallas : 4/30/2022 1:14 pm : link
Best use as a nickel safety.
RE: RE: If he was so good, he would have been picked yesterday.  
Mike in NY : 4/30/2022 1:14 pm : link
In comment 15692164 Jack Stroud said:
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In comment 15692050 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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He sucks.

Spot on! Most of the guys picked today have a very small chance of making a roster.


Wow - sucks to be you. Are you happy about anything?
RE: Brugler ranks Belyon number 15 safety  
sb from NYT Forum : 4/30/2022 1:16 pm : link
In comment 15692167 Rick in Dallas said:
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Best use as a nickel safety.


Giants seem to have a lot of guys that play the nickel DB role:
Love
Holmes
Aaron Robinson
Flott played some nickel at LSU
And not Belton

Probably a good problem to have
RE: RE: Brugler ranks Belyon number 15 safety  
sb from NYT Forum : 4/30/2022 1:17 pm : link
In comment 15692172 sb from NYT Forum said:
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In comment 15692167 Rick in Dallas said:


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Best use as a nickel safety.



Giants seem to have a lot of guys that play the nickel DB role:
Love
Holmes
Aaron Robinson
Flott played some nickel at LSU
And not Belton

Probably a good problem to have


and NOW Belton I mean...
Giants must think he has a good chance to make the team  
GeofromNJ : 4/30/2022 1:31 pm : link
otherwise they would have drafted a running back or maybe another receiver.
RE: If he was so good, he would have been picked yesterday.  
BigBlueBuff : 4/30/2022 1:32 pm : link
In comment 15692050 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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He sucks.

This schtick isn't funny to anyone but you.
I don't know BBB.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/30/2022 1:37 pm : link
It got some chuckles on the thread. And also, lighten up.
Would have preferred Nacobi Dean, but….  
5BowlsSoon : 4/30/2022 1:37 pm : link
I’m okay with this pick.


/sarcasm off
It just seems from round 2 thru now we are drafting guys  
MartyNJ1969 : 4/30/2022 1:42 pm : link
That will accept being indoctrinated into our losing 10 year culture.
RE: It just seems from round 2 thru now we are drafting guys  
GiantGrit : 4/30/2022 1:54 pm : link
In comment 15692233 MartyNJ1969 said:
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That will accept being indoctrinated into our losing 10 year culture.


How so?
RE: It just seems from round 2 thru now we are drafting guys  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/30/2022 1:56 pm : link
In comment 15692233 MartyNJ1969 said:
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That will accept being indoctrinated into our losing 10 year culture.


I am dumber for having read that.
RE: RE: It just seems from round 2 thru now we are drafting guys  
MartyNJ1969 : 4/30/2022 2:05 pm : link
In comment 15692261 GiantGrit said:
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In comment 15692233 MartyNJ1969 said:


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That will accept being indoctrinated into our losing 10 year culture.

Let me explain, it just seems we didnt take the best prospect for the position in the round. Just seemswe are settling in on lesser prospects vs what’s available.

How so?
I think Giants really did a poor job in evaluating Dean.  
Giant John : 4/30/2022 2:44 pm : link
We will see if it comes back to hurt us now that the birds drafted him. I’m betting we will be sorry for sure.
Contradictory indicators on Belton - time will tell  
Bob in Newburgh : 4/30/2022 4:16 pm : link
Combine time is blazing for an S with + length and acceptable bulk.

Scouting reports seem to indicate a lack of range.
hey now  
The Jake : 4/30/2022 5:46 pm : link
i like this guy!

and Eric’s post above drew a legit LOL, so thank you for that.
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