Not official, NYG UDFAs reportedly signed

also added these players to the roster and depth chart (though the depth chart is just a guess at this point).

Was invited to the Giants rookie minicamp.

Where does he slot in?

2 guards from North Carolina
2 cornerbacks from LSU
2 d-linemen from Florida

Plus the 2 San Diego players

Seems like the scouts didn’t want to do a lot of traveling to look for talent.

In comment 15694209 HMunster said:

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Was invited to the Giants rookie minicamp. Where does he slot in?

I'm not listing tryout players at this time because there will be at least a couple of dozen of them.

Some of the "signed" players may actually be tryout players... we've seen this before. We've also seen guys back out and sign with other teams.

In comment 15694212 Ivan15 said:

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2 guards from North Carolina 2 cornerbacks from LSU 2 d-linemen from Florida Plus the 2 San Diego players Seems like the scouts didn’t want to do a lot of traveling to look for talent.

Yeah, pretty wild.

And as Yankee pointed out, a lot of major programs. I also noticed we have a number of guys who transferred schools.

In comment 15694220 Eric from BBI said:

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In comment 15694209 HMunster said: Quote: Was invited to the Giants rookie minicamp. Where does he slot in? I'm not listing tryout players at this time because there will be at least a couple of dozen of them. Some of the "signed" players may actually be tryout players... we've seen this before. We've also seen guys back out and sign with other teams.

Got it. Makes sense.

if you identify a unit on a team that you like, it makes sense to get multiple cracks at getting the player that made the unit what it was. These are most mid rounders and on so it’s virtually no investment.

Emmitt Rice received a training camp invite. Injuries hampered him throughout his career. When healthy had had a productive year. Key words when healthy.

Emmitt Rice received a training camp invite. Injuries hampered him throughout his career. When healthy had had a productive year. Key words when healthy.

Signings are Hall, Corbin, & Corker.

Hall will make the roster and be a valuable piece as an Hback- he can be Giants version of Kyle Juscyzk/Mike Sellers

Corbin has a ton of juice- I can see him beating out Brightwell/Williams as RB3

Corker is in line to make the roster as a 4th safety, but I think his real value will be as a ST player- Nat Berhe type of role.

Truesdell is also interesting- had some really good film at Auburn, but had minimal impact at UF. Also got (from what I’ve seen reported) the most GTD money so he was a priority for the Giants front office.

Schools were Cincinnati and San Diego State. Neither too shabby.

And if you think Watson was a target that the Giants missed out on, look again.

Giants are bringing in Dayton Safety Brandon Easterling for a Rookie Camp invite

Emmitt Rice received a training camp invite. Injuries hampered him throughout his career. When healthy had had a productive year. Key words when healthy.

Just signed another UDFA. Daylen Baldwin WR from Michigan

In comment 15694390 YANKEE28 said:

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Just signed another UDFA. Daylen Baldwin WR from Michigan

Article about it.
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Jordan Schultz
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Michigan speedster Daylen Baldwin is signing as an UDFA with the #Giants, per source. The 6-2, 220-pound WR averaged nearly 21 YPC at Jackson State before spending his final year in Ann Arbor.

if the double-dipping is in any way an effort to help players get/stay comfortable.

you don't have long for some of these players to make an impression, and many of them are 20-23 years old, seems like whatever you can do to get them comfortable and focusing on football the soonest the better read you get as a team to see what you have to work with.

just a thought.

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Jordan Schultz ✔ @Schultz_Report Michigan speedster Daylen Baldwin is signing as an UDFA with the #Giants, per source. The 6-2, 220-pound WR averaged nearly 21 YPC at Jackson State before spending his final year in Ann Arbor.

Trent Knoop
Sun, May 1, 2022, 3:24 PM·1 min read
In this article:

Daylen Baldwin
American football wide receiver

The wide receiver from Farmington, Michigan has inked a deal to become a professional football player.

Daylen Baldwin came from the class of 2017, but his journey didn’t start at Michigan. His journey started much smaller than the Big House.

"Baldwin played two seasons at Morgan State before transferring to now HBCU powerhouse, Jackson State where he played two more seasons. Baldwin came to Michigan as a graduate transfer this past season, and he looked to make an instant impact with the Wolverines."

Looks like a good WR prospect size wise.

Utah State defensive end-outside linebacker Jaylin Bannerman invited to New York Giants' rookie minicamp, per a league source

And knows football. He has this to say about the TE from Nebraska

Strong character guy. Won’t beat anybody on his routes but very good hands and extends for the ball - at almost 6 8 will get the ball. Not afraid to block but hard to get correct angles with his height. Tougher than he looks. Just can’t seem to put on much more weight.

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And knows football. He has this to say about the TE from Nebraska Strong character guy. Won’t beat anybody on his routes but very good hands and extends for the ball - at almost 6 8 will get the ball. Not afraid to block but hard to get correct angles with his height. Tougher than he looks. Just can’t seem to put on much more weight.

Look at the tape of him.... he has crazy long legs. Not sure I've seen that in the NFL for a TE.

we are at 14 known rookie free agent signings and 11 draft picks.

Center from Michigan State to the list, per reports.

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Center from Michigan State to the list, per reports.

any relation to brian allen (also formerly of MSU)?

In comment 15694434 Matt in SGS said:

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Center from Michigan State to the list, per reports.

Not clear if he is signed or tryout?

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Per sources, Matt Allen to Giants mini-camp. Big get for my Giants! @DraftDiamonds @Hula_Bowl

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Amazing opportunity for the standout center at the Hula Bowl!! He can be an impact player for the GMen! #Giants

were obviously signed far too early by the Giants according to all the draft guides.

In comment 15694438 Eric on Li said:

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In comment 15694434 Matt in SGS said: Quote: Center from Michigan State to the list, per reports. any relation to brian allen (also formerly of MSU)?

Younger brother

In comment 15694467 Mike in NY said:

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In comment 15694438 Eric on Li said: Quote: In comment 15694434 Matt in SGS said: Quote: Center from Michigan State to the list, per reports. any relation to brian allen (also formerly of MSU)? Younger brother

i wanted them to grab lindstrom but ill take it. MSU has him 6'3 315.

I presume he bypassed other offers because he likes the depth chart here (as he should because there are basically 0 natural centers on the roster lol).

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CAREER NOTES: Four-year letterwinner played in 44 career games, including 30 starts at center (seven in 2018, nine in 2019, one in 2020, 13 in 2021) . . . returned for a sixth year in 2021 and participated in spring practice after missing most of the 2020 season with a foot injury . . . selected to play in the 2022 Hula Bowl in Orlando. 2021 SEASON (GRADUATE SENIOR): Earned honorable mention All-Big Ten accolades by both coaches and media . . . started all 13 games at center, playing 609 snaps . . . helped block for Doak Walker Award winner and Walter Camp Player of the Year Kenneth Walker III, who finished No. 2 in the FBS in rushing yards with 1,636 yards . . . played 69 snaps against No. 12 Pitt in his final game wearing the Green and White in the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl . . . started Senior Day game vs. Penn State in final home game at Spartan Stadium, matching jersey number with 64 snaps . . . was starting center at Ohio State and logged 44 snaps . . . started Maryland game at center, collecting 52 snaps . . . was starting center in game at Purdue, playing 46 snaps . . . started Michigan game at center and played 62 snaps . . . started at Indiana at center and played 37 snaps . . . was starting center at Rutgers and played 32 snaps, helping clear way for B1G season-high 588 yards of total offense . . . started Western Kentucky game at center and played 40 snaps . . . started at center in game against Nebraska, logging 29 snaps . . . was starting center for Miami game, playing 45 snaps . . . started home opener vs. Youngstown State, playing 39 snaps, helping MSU collect 595 yards of total offense (323 passing, 272 rushing), including 408 yards of total offense in the first half, the first time it had more than 400 total yards in the first half since 2007 . . . started at center in season opener at Northwestern, playing 50 snaps in helping road grade the way for Spartan offensive rushing attack that ran for 326 yards Friday night, marking the first time that the Spartans rushed for 300 yards in a game since 2014 at Indiana (330 yards).

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Our old punter? The one who looked like Raggedy Andy?

247Sports
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Oct 29, 2019
Penn State senior defensive lineman Antonio Valentino has been suspended for the Minnesota game after he spit at Michigan State offensive lineman Matt Allen

In comment 15694410 pjcas18 said:

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if the double-dipping is in any way an effort to help players get/stay comfortable. you don't have long for some of these players to make an impression, and many of them are 20-23 years old, seems like whatever you can do to get them comfortable and focusing on football the soonest the better read you get as a team to see what you have to work with. just a thought.

I suspect that's the case they can also work together understanding the playbook since they both come from the same system and terminology.

He’ll turn 25 before opening day. He had no chance of being drafted after missing the 2021 season (knee) and a meh pro day, but it’s pretty much now or never for him.

Love the videos

That might be one reason there wasn’t much buzz around him. He’s also REALLY slow for a center. On the other hand, Travis Frederick was slow too, and he turned out OK. It depends what you’re going to ask your center to do. But Allen’s 40 was even worse than Frederick’s. Wouldn’t matter in 1-on-1 drills, so the lack of foot speed may not have been so evident at the Hula Bowl.

I don't see how they could possibly be relevant, ever. A time for 10 yards, maybe. Three cone, perhaps, but someone would have to explain what 40 times indicate, unless they are somehow indicative of athleticism and quickness, but here are much better ways to test that.

Jahcour Pearson Ole Miss reciever to GIants on a tryout

.....

Spitter!

He’s even smaller, and didn’t make the same kind of splash after transferring. Might be a little faster though, and he has some wiggle.
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Andre Miller- WR Maine
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… about players who were ascending in the 2017-2019 period but had their progress disrupted by COVID, or injuries, or a combination of both. A lot of the UDFA signings and tryouts seem to have taken winding paths to the NFL, with an unusual prevalence of transfers, including several graduate transfers.

L'liott Curry from Henderson State.

He put up some crazy numbers the past 2 seasons.

And as BBB has said, another player at his second school and who spent more than 4 years playing college football
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is another UDFA signing

CB Al Young Jackson State
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I am now up to 16 that are indicating they are UDFAs (and not mini camp tryouts)

If my research is correct, we have a whole bunch of cuts coming from the current roster, as I am showing 97 total with roster, draft picks and UDFAs.

And of course some mini camp tryouts could also be signed.

This is quickly becoming a Schoen/Daboll roster.

Here is what I show for the UDFAs:


1. CB Darren Evans, LSU
2. TE/FB Jeremiah Hall, Oklahoma
3. DT Tyrone Truesdell, Florida
4. DL Christopher Hinton, Michigan
5. DL Jabari Ellis, South Carolina
6. TE Austin Allen, Nebraska
7. EDGE Tomon Fox, North Carolina
8. DB Yusuf Corker, Kentucky
9. OL Josh Rivas, Kansas State
10. RB Jashaun Corbin, Florida State
11. S Trenton Thompson San Diego State
12. CB Zyon Gilbert Florida Atlantic
13. WR Daylen Baldwin Michigan
14. DT Antonio Valentino Florida
15. WR Andre Miller Maine
16. CB Al Young Jackson State

another mini camp tryout

Gage Kreski SS Central Michigan
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… are either very small (Robinson, Pearson) or 6’2” (Miller, Baldwin, Curry).

Only Robinson is likely to make the 2022 roster, but there may be a clue her about the new regime’s template for the position.

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Schools were Cincinnati and San Diego State. Neither too shabby. And if you think Watson was a target that the Giants missed out on, look again.

Interesting Cincinnati had the third most players drafted right behind Georgia and LSU

Georgia — 15
LSU — 10
Cincinnati — 9


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Thanks! I'lll those other two today!

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is another UDFA signing CB Al Young Jackson State Link - ( New Window )

Where are you seeing the Young signing?

here is the makeup of the Giants roster breaking down the new roster additions since Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll took over:

veteran FA signings 17
international signings 1
drafted players 11
UDFA signings 16

TOTAL 45

for Al Young

attached
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as you know, Deion Sanders is the HC at Jackson St. This is his top DB that we signed.

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for Al Young attached Link - ( New Window )

Following along, there's some interesting content on his search

"With 11 PBUs for Jackson State, I’m not sure why Al Young isn’t getting more attention at CB.

His ability to track the ball and attack it at its highest point is commendable. Whether it’s Day 3 or as a UDFA, someone’s getting good value."

good highlights of Andre Miller...
0:35 2:10 / 3:05 “Flash” ⚡️ || Maine WR Andre Miller Highlights ᴴᴰ - ( New Window )

note regarding Deion Sanders.

Our new WR Daylen Baldwin played at Jackson St for Sanders. In Baldwin's final year of eligibility, he transferred to Michigan.

So we have added two Deion Sanders coached players

In comment 15695027 YANKEE28 said:

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note regarding Deion Sanders. Our new WR Daylen Baldwin played at Jackson St for Sanders. In Baldwin's final year of eligibility, he transferred to Michigan. So we have added two Deion Sanders coached players

I didn't even know Sanders was coaching!

Is it a departure from getts years that we are discovering these kinds of players even though we basically have the same scouts. Lots of wideouts and db’s who dominated in lesser conferences.

In comment 15695050 Fast Eddie said:

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Is it a departure from getts years that we are discovering these kinds of players even though we basically have the same scouts. Lots of wideouts and db’s who dominated in lesser conferences.

Actually, I would say the previous regimes went after more small school players who dominated.

This draft/rookie free agent class seems to be weighted heavily to major programs.

In comment 15694997 YANKEE28 said:

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here is the makeup of the Giants roster breaking down the new roster additions since Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll took over: veteran FA signings 17 international signings 1 drafted players 11 UDFA signings 16 TOTAL 45

wow.

In comment 15695014 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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In comment 15694999 YANKEE28 said: Quote: for Al Young attached Link - ( New Window ) ///// Following along, there's some interesting content on his search "With 11 PBUs for Jackson State, I’m not sure why Al Young isn’t getting more attention at CB. His ability to track the ball and attack it at its highest point is commendable. Whether it’s Day 3 or as a UDFA, someone’s getting good value."

In light of Rico's post on Friday (?), JS and Wink doing their best to compensate

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Is it a departure from getts years that we are discovering these kinds of players even though we basically have the same scouts. Lots of wideouts and db’s who dominated in lesser conferences.

I disagree. If you look at the commentary on these players they all fit a certain profile that Daboll/Schoen are looking to build. The draft is not just scouts suggesting their favorite guys regardless of the system. A key emphasis is if they fit what the team is trying to build. You saw a lot of bad drafts under Jim Fassel because I am not even sure he knew what type of player he wanted to build around. They initially improved under Tom Coughlin because Tom knew what he wanted from each position and conveyed it to the scouts either directly or through Accorsi/Reese. The drafts started to suck when (1) the game changed and Tom Coughlin was slow reacting and (2) because of number one the team was drafting players that did not mesh well with each other because it was basically going from scout to scout and saying which guys do you personally like most. That continued under Ben McAdoo and Pat Shurmur because both of them were more like Fassel than Coughlin. I think Joe Judge could have been like Coughlin, but his act just rubbed people the wrong way and Gettleman was too close with Chris Mara.

I would respectfully request that you pay no attention to Rico's "cornerback" post or his later mea culpa post.

Its interesting when asshats post, but not gospel

In comment 15695057 Eric from BBI said:

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In comment 15694997 YANKEE28 said: Quote: here is the makeup of the Giants roster breaking down the new roster additions since Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll took over: veteran FA signings 17 international signings 1 drafted players 11 UDFA signings 16 TOTAL 45 wow.

that's not a surprising number. to get to 90 from 53 every single teams adds a net minimum of 37 even if they cut nobody, right?

on quick count they actually turned the roster over about the same amount last offseason than this one:

2021 vet FA = 33
2021 draft = 6
2021 UDFAs = 3
total = 42

presumably because it was a thin draft they overloaded on veteran FA last year at the expense of udfas.

in 2020 they actually turned the roster over even more than this year:

veteran FA - 25
UDFAs - 16
draft picks - 10

total = 51

its unclear to me if C Matt Allen was signed; can somewhat confirm/deny?

Yes it is when you consider the fact that the Giants had what - 20 - players on IR?

was hoping Giants would have jumped on him right after the draft

In comment 15695225 Eric from BBI said:

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Yes it is when you consider the fact that the Giants had what - 20 - players on IR?

And the 10 on the PS, most of whom were re-signed.

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was hoping Giants would have jumped on him right after the draft

Yes the eagles signed him.

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its unclear to me if C Matt Allen was signed; can somewhat confirm/deny?

None of them have been confirmed.

Allen is even more vague. They didn't use the word "sign" in those tweets.

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Yes it is when you consider the fact that the Giants had what - 20 - players on IR?

hasn't that pretty much been the case every year for the last 5-10? they have that the most injuries in the nfl over the last decade, i dont think last year was more of an outlier than any of the others.

2021 eoy IR retained --> 2022 = 14 (24 total ended season on IR)
2020 eoy IR retained --> 2021 = 8 (13 total end season on IR + c19 list)
2019 eoy IR retained --> 2020 = 6 (13 ended season on IR)

So there were more in 2021, however the end of season active roster was only 49 so they were 4 spots fewer on the 53 unlike 19 + 20.

it does appear it was an outlier year for IR though.

Wow. I don’t see my College on here often

When do we learn about the guillotine coming down on the holdover scouts and losers in the FO (Chris Pettit)?

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When do we learn about the guillotine coming down on the holdover scouts and losers in the FO (Chris Pettit)?

I'm not sure Pettit is going anywhere...if you watch the inside the Giants War Room videos, Schoen was fist bumping him.

In comment 15695433 Eric from BBI said:

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In comment 15695405 The_Boss said: Quote: When do we learn about the guillotine coming down on the holdover scouts and losers in the FO (Chris Pettit)? I'm not sure Pettit is going anywhere...if you watch the inside the Giants War Room videos, Schoen was fist bumping him.

You just ruined my week...

But Justyn Ross is headed to Kansas City

Schoen wants (that includes ALL the scouts), then he is fine with retaining people. I don't think he will be shy about firing people if that is necessary. If Petit realizes there is a new Sherif in town, and he better get his act together, I'm fine with that.

In comment 15695433 Eric from BBI said:

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In comment 15695405 The_Boss said: Quote: When do we learn about the guillotine coming down on the holdover scouts and losers in the FO (Chris Pettit)? I'm not sure Pettit is going anywhere...if you watch the inside the Giants War Room videos, Schoen was fist bumping him.

Exactly. He's not making final decisions. I would expect a few people will move on, but not whole scale changes. They seem to have had a plan and executed there plan.

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In comment 15695027 YANKEE28 said: Quote: note regarding Deion Sanders. Our new WR Daylen Baldwin played at Jackson St for Sanders. In Baldwin's final year of eligibility, he transferred to Michigan. So we have added two Deion Sanders coached players I didn't even know Sanders was coaching!

Come on?! Ypou didn't know? You don't remember him getting snippy with a reporter who didn't refer to him as Coach?

Aaron Wilson
@AaronWilson_NFL

Defensive back Tobias Oliver (Georgia Tech) invited to Eagles and Giants' rookie minicamps, per a league source

Aaron Wilson
@AaronWilson_NFL

Linebacker Joe Beckett (Wofford) invited to New York Giants' minicamp, per league source. Clemson long snapper Jack Maddox invited to the New York Giants' rookie minicamp, per a league source.

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Guaranteed money details on a few more Giants UDFAs, per source:
•DL Chris Hinton: $115K ($15K signing bonus/$100K base salary)
•RB Jashaun Corbin: $110K ($10K signing bonus/$100K base)

Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Guaranteed money details on a few Giants UDFAs, per source:
• DT Tyrone Truesdell: $75K ($15K signing bonus/$60K base salary)
• FB/TE Jeremiah Hall: $30K ($15K SB/$15K base)
• OL Josh Rivas: $0

Schoen credit for continuing his search for OLs.

The Giants have Canada's top rated college left tackle, Noah Zerr, attending the rookie tryout.

These Canadian player tryouts have almost been a Giants tradition, and have often been a disappointment because of their size, but Zerr is 6'7" and listed at 305.
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also have a Canadian QB attending.

He is significantly under sized.

Perhaps will be tried at another position.
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found this recent post from OTC today.

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The first thing I wanted to look at was simply year by year roster churn. What I did was go back to 2013 and look at every teams roster at the end of the season and then see if that player was on the team the following season and/or the season after that. To say NFL rosters are unstable is certainly an understatement. On average only 56% of players return from one year to the next and two years out it is just around 35%.

So the baseline is basically 30 players from the prior year + 23 new ones.

For nyg I count more than 20 players who are basically 53 man locks barring injury (not including injury risks like gates/peart). And then a bunch of young guys from prior regimes still competing for spots (like cam brown, roche, etc). If i was handicapping it today i'd say it's pretty much even odds on the over and under.
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We invited someone named Baer (sic) Hunter to minicamp?


If he's not signed, I will just be so incredibly bummed.

Canadian QB,Tre Ford trying out for the Giants.

Just signed as a UDFA with the Baltimore Ravens

Daboll mentioned they signed two FBs. I wonder who the other guy is?

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Giants invited Marcque Ellington to rookie camp

It looks like they signed Easterling...
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are some highlights
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