Cowboys, Eagles, Commanders

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i will lean to the team that has the best QB and thats the cowboys, but i dont think any of those teams are dominant or going to run away with the division

The Eagles can win the division.

I personally see the division as

Eagles
Cowboys
Redskins
Giants.

Still the Cowboys followed by the Eagles.

Dallas has the best QB. So, I lean to them, despite some significant losses on that roster.

And you just know they will end up having a good draft. Will McClay somehow figures it out and players evolve.

As long as Jalen Hurts is the QB, I'm not buying them. Yes, he is a winner and figures it out somehow. A football player more than a QB. But ultimately you how to throw to win in this league and he just can't be counted on to perform there.

I have no idea what to expect from Washington yet. A talented roster but the QB can be the other team's best friend with his horrendous decision making...

In comment 15696613 bw in dc said:

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Dallas has the best QB. So, I lean to them, despite some significant losses on that roster. And you just know they will end up having a good draft. Will McClay somehow figures it out and players evolve. As long as Jalen Hurts is the QB, I'm not buying them. Yes, he is a winner and figures it out somehow. A football player more than a QB. But ultimately you how to throw to win in this league and he just can't be counted on to perform there. I have no idea what to expect from Washington yet. A talented roster but the QB can be the other team's best friend with his horrendous decision making...

Agree with all points.

In comment 15696613 bw in dc said:

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Dallas has the best QB. So, I lean to them, despite some significant losses on that roster. And you just know they will end up having a good draft. Will McClay somehow figures it out and players evolve. As long as Jalen Hurts is the QB, I'm not buying them. Yes, he is a winner and figures it out somehow. A football player more than a QB. But ultimately you how to throw to win in this league and he just can't be counted on to perform there. I have no idea what to expect from Washington yet. A talented roster but the QB can be the other team's best friend with his horrendous decision making...

If it's a fair QB competition, wouldn't be too surprised if Heinicke beats Wentz out.

Dallas...I feel they have taken a step back....their primary advantage, The OL is not the same.....lost some talent. But still probably a 2 team race with the Eagles

You must hand it to the Eagles, which I expected to be in full rebuild mode....seems more like reload or patch & play mode...they did great this off-season.

Washington is an unknown to me....I expected their defense to be better..
Assumed their HC to do more...not that impressed....TBD.

Bottomline, the Super Bowl winner is not coming out of this division....so why bother

I would not be surprised if Howell is starting for the Commanders by next year.

...that Dallas is shedding more talent than they're adding. Philly is gaining because they are doing the opposite.

bw makes a good point though, the QB matters.

Cowboys

they have the only legit QB in the division so unless Dak gets hurt, they are the favorite. Eagles probably next but teams regress all the time, especially teams without a legit QB. If Hurts takes the next step then I put them neck and neck with the Cowboys, but if not they will be jockeying between 2nd and 3rd.

They should continue to improve defensivly and Have the best QB. I am not afraid of their QB or coach when it comes to playoff time though.

For Philly their moves look good on paper but they have a history of making the easy good looking moves turn bad. And Hurts wqa at the same time their best player and the reason the lost multiple times last year. They just dont have the consistency.

Washington has QB problems and I dont think they got better. If Howell gets in and adds a spark their front 7 is talented enough to play close games. Also trust Rivera most in the division even if he gambles and craps out too often.

was that OL and it's beginning to breakdown. The window is closing.

It's the Eagles.

followed by,
Cowboys
Us
Washington

though I disagree with those who think Sam Howell is going to end up being their starting QB. Unfortunately, Wentz has been a Giant killer, and I hope we can change that this year.

They now have another threat at WR next to McLaurin, gonna be tough to defend.

2. Cowboys
3. Washington
4. Giants

Cowboys actually need pieces to hit, a RT, someone at CB, at WR. I think they take a step back and that Eagles team is well rounded. AJ Brown is not a rookie and Smith is terrific. I dont think either are SB contenders though.

Best QB in the division by far, and the two best defensive players (Parsons & Diggs).

In comment 15696621 Eric from BBI said:

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I would not be surprised if Howell is starting for the Commanders by next year.

I wouldn't either, but I figure he needs a year to acclimate.

They have a big hole at OG... plus an aging oft injured Tyronne Smith at LT.
Tyler Smith expected to start at OG over Connor McGovern who is absolutely awful.

1 - Dallas
2 - Phil
3&4 - the other two left

but the difference at QB makes Dallas the team to beat. I don't think Dak is elite, but he's far better than Hurts.

If WTF can get decent QB play from Wentz, they could surprise. They've got talent.

All the hype coupled with very little success. They are usually decent but will just miss the playoffs or go out early.

Historically, Dallas follows up a good season with a mediocre one. Eagles are probably the team to beat and Washington could be scary...but it is all dependent on QB play.
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In comment 15696613 bw in dc said:

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Dallas has the best QB. So, I lean to them, despite some significant losses on that roster. And you just know they will end up having a good draft. Will McClay somehow figures it out and players evolve. As long as Jalen Hurts is the QB, I'm not buying them. Yes, he is a winner and figures it out somehow. A football player more than a QB. But ultimately you how to throw to win in this league and he just can't be counted on to perform there. I have no idea what to expect from Washington yet. A talented roster but the QB can be the other team's best friend with his horrendous decision making...

You keep saying Hurts is a winner and he’s a sub-.500 player. You sure grade on a curve.

Some of the stuff I've seen from him is mind-blowingly bad. I also think Sirianni is in way over his head and it will show this year. I see the Eagles having a terrible year, followed by Washington. I still think Dallas has the best team.

did not have a good draft and that the Eagles did.


We gotta be better than the Commanders.

I'd be reasonably happy if we went 3-3 against our division. We were 1-5 last season.

They have the best QB and the most talented roster.

I still think the standings will look like last year:

Dallas
Philly
Washington
NYG

they drafted a center who is isn't going to play. Jordan Davis is not an every down player and they already have run stoppers. AJ Brown is an upgrade. Nakobe Dean might be a steal, but he is undersized and injured. Last year they had issues getting to the QB and stopping any decent QB in this league. They don't even have an NFL caliber starting safety or corner opposite Slay. Did Hassan Reddick really improve their pass rush that much. Plus, last year besides Brandon Graham they were relatively healthy, especially on the OL for the first time in years.
I don't know, I don't see where they have added all this talent and have addressed their weaknesses.

Its kind of funny how things are viewed. We traded Leonard Williams for a 3 and a 5 knowing we would have to resign him and we got crucified up and down the east coast for being the biggest dummies in the world (and somewhat justifiably). They trade a one for AJ Brown, which is giving up 5 years of a possible premium player at a cap contained number, for a player who is probably in the top 10-15 WR in the league and resign for 25 million and they want to throw them parades for it.

Key losses of personnel and another year of age on OL. Can see it falling apart and both McCarty and Dak going at years end. Could also win 9/10 games if the OL stays healthy and performs.

Eagles build like the Giants did when we won a lot of games. Strong lines/front 7 and they added to it. Think next year they get a new QB.

WFT: Strong front 7. Some nice players. Wentz is a upgrade but his best day seem behind him. OL will be the key.

No clear front runner. Injuries will be a factor as always.

Dallas a very close Second.

Washington a very close Third.

And the Giants? Until proven otherwise, a very distant 32 out of 32 teams.

We're still a bad division, I don't see any of the teams competing for a Super Bowl but Dallas is the one team that seems built to compete. They have a QB, weapons on O, an ascending D, etc...

With Philly, I just don't see Hurts going in and winning a big game. The more film DC's see on him, the more they'll shut him down. Rest of the roster is solid.

Commanders are behind Dallas and Philly by quite a bit. QB questions, a front office that boggles things just as bad as ours. They may be a middle of the road team (6-8 wins) but I can also see a path to them collapsing and picking top 3 next year.

Luckily they still don’t have a QB

In comment 15696613 bw in dc said:

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As long as Jalen Hurts is the QB, I'm not buying them. Yes, he is a winner and figures it out somehow.

LOL, what??

His W/L record is 9-10

In comment 15696688 Finch said:

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Luckily they still don’t have a QB

Maybe. The kid they signed as an UDFA may surprise. He's a statue and his knee is iffy, but he can throw.

The Eagles closed the gap, but it's still Dallas by a hair.

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In comment 15696613 bw in dc said: Quote: As long as Jalen Hurts is the QB, I'm not buying them. Yes, he is a winner and figures it out somehow. LOL, what?? His W/L record is 9-10

Hurts was declared the full time starter last year for the first time. And the Eagles made the playoffs.

Always glad to help.

Dallas lost players, but they also added players to fill those holes. Its still to be determined if those replacement players will pan out. But what put's them ahead of the pack is their QB.

Washington is 2nd also because of their QB. Wentz should elevate the QB play making Washington a better team. I believe their defense also has a bounce back year. With a formidable defense they should be in every game.

Philadelphia is 3rd because no one trust Hurts. The front office is setup for next years draft because they aren't sure of him. If Philadelphia is hedging their bets, you should too.

New York is last because not only the QB, but they have a new coaching staff, new system, and new players. First year of a rebuild, there are just too many moving parts. I see another top ten selection next year.

In comment 15696782 fanatic II said:

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Dallas lost players, but they also added players to fill those holes. Its still to be determined if those replacement players will pan out. But what put's them ahead of the pack is their QB. Washington is 2nd also because of their QB. Wentz should elevate the QB play making Washington a better team. I believe their defense also has a bounce back year. With a formidable defense they should be in every game. Philadelphia is 3rd because no one trust Hurts. The front office is setup for next years draft because they aren't sure of him. If Philadelphia is hedging their bets, you should too. New York is last because not only the QB, but they have a new coaching staff, new system, and new players. First year of a rebuild, there are just too many moving parts. I see another top ten selection next year.

Carson Wentz sucks.

The Eagles are a better team than Washington right now.

1. Gmen
2. Eagles
3. Boys
4. Skins

Neither team has great depth. Washington has a "puncher's chance", if Wentz has more 2017-2018 days than 2020 days. They get a hat-tip for a defensive depth chart that starts with all of their #1 picks from 2017 to 2021, and for building up the WR corps around McLaurin.

There's a fourth team in the division, and they are, for now, the fourth team in the division.

They’ll win games and be competitive. They have a pretty decent roster. But Hurtz is a worse pocket passer than Daniel Jones and I don’t think that’s a very controversial statement. Great runner but just not an NFL level passer. The Cowboys are the probably best of the three by default.

Short term - Dallas
Medium term - Dallas
Long term - Philly

No team has a meaningful edge in coaching.
Dallas has the best QB. And likely the best defense.
Washington is simply landlocked in mediocrity.

Philly gets the long term nod because they have a young LT, imo had a great draft, and have an extra first next year from a team that may not make the playoffs. And 2 stud WRs under contract. I think Hurts sucks, which holds them back in the short/medium term, but they could be in good shape next year to get a better asset at QB than Dak.

Dallas having Diggs and Parsons gives them an argument for the long term too, but when tyron and zack martin hit the end there's risk their offense collapses. They are a completely different team when Tyron Smith doesn't play.

Dak is not some super QB that can carry the Cowboys. Especially with a depleted O line.

I think they are all beatable this year

In comment 15696786 arcarsenal said:

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In comment 15696782 fanatic II said: Quote: Dallas lost players, but they also added players to fill those holes. Its still to be determined if those replacement players will pan out. But what put's them ahead of the pack is their QB. Washington is 2nd also because of their QB. Wentz should elevate the QB play making Washington a better team. I believe their defense also has a bounce back year. With a formidable defense they should be in every game. Philadelphia is 3rd because no one trust Hurts. The front office is setup for next years draft because they aren't sure of him. If Philadelphia is hedging their bets, you should too. New York is last because not only the QB, but they have a new coaching staff, new system, and new players. First year of a rebuild, there are just too many moving parts. I see another top ten selection next year. Carson Wentz sucks. The Eagles are a better team than Washington right now.

Wentz is better than Taylor Heinke. That should give them better QB play. I still believe Washington will be lead by their defense.

I just have a feeling they will be the surprise team of the year.

except for the QB. Somehow they find a way to be successful. I believe they will be the team to beat. I liked their draft overall.

Dallas has taken some big hits to the roster. The OL isnt what it used to be and Dak is going to be under more pressure than he is used to. I wasnt a big fan of their draft.

Giants - We improved the roster and the OL. Our gains outweighed the losses. Health is the Giants biggest concern because we are paper thin. Just having a competent OL will improve the OL by leaps and bounds. Having an actual NFL Offense gameplan will help this team. If we find a way to keep Bradberry the Giants have improved the roster top to bottom.

Washington - I didnt like their draft at all. Carson Wentz has regressed and is more of a backup imo at this point. They lost their best OL and replaced him with Norwell who hasnt played well. They are tight against the cap as well so will need to adjust some players to get under the cap. Plus lots of big contract decisions for next season.

Washington is thoroughly mediocre. The Eagles have a hole at QB.

even with Hurts at qb.

The Eagles roster is MUCH better overall. Jordan Davis will be better than Fletcher Cox. Eagles win the division ,Dallas will be in the hunt for the wild card but ultimately fall short due to injuries.

Hurts sucks.