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Daboll on Tiki and Tierney

Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/3/2022 12:16 pm
Zack Rosenblatt Tiki and Tierney ✔ @ZackBlatt

Brian Daboll on @TikiAndTierney, said that he and Joe Schoen never felt like they had to battle with each other during the draft about who to pick. They were in sync. #Giants

Brian Daboll on if he was ever worried about Kayvon Thibodeaux’s fit in the #Giants locker room. In short, no: “I want people in our building to be themselves. He understands he’s a rookie.”

Brian Daboll on Daniel Jones to @TikiAndTierney: “I want him to be himself and not be afraid of consequences, pull the trigger and attack.”

Brian Daboll on Kadarius Toney to @TikiAndTierney: “KT has been great. He’s been here, working. He’s picking up things really well. He’s got a good skill set. He’s good with the ball in his hands … You can tell he’s an instinctive football player.“ #Giants

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Dan Salomone @Dan_Salomone

Daboll on @TikiAndTierney said the first draft with Joe Schoen was smooth because they went over every scenario so they had the questions and answers "before the test."

Daboll said he's been impressed with Daniel Jones' leadership. He wants him to be himself and "not be afraid of consequences" so he can pull the trigger and attack. Daboll wants Jones to have ownership of the offense.

Daboll on what it means to be head coach of the New York Giants: "I don't take it lightly. I understand there are expectations." He reiterates the importance of having people he trusts in the building and letting them do their work.

Daboll said Kadarius Toney has been great. "He's picking up things really well." He's a good space player. He was a QB in high school. "You can tell he's an instinctive football player."
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RE: RE: the Jones pissing an moaning provides a good laugh at this point  
UConn4523 : 5/3/2022 2:38 pm : link
In comment 15697184 Go Terps said:
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In comment 15697176 UConn4523 said:


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all offseason + 17 more games, buckle up everyone!



And the pissing and moaning about the pissing and moaning. Gonna be fun.


The main difference here is I seldom post it because the point has been made and redundancy is tiresome - ie, self-awareness.
RE: RE: RE: We already know who is right and who is wrong  
UConn4523 : 5/3/2022 2:40 pm : link
In comment 15697193 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 15697182 UConn4523 said:


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The difference is the level of denial.

It's a thread about Jones, correct? So why not discuss it?



You post the same points on every Jones thread, with the same rebuttals, and typically avoid replying to anyone that makes a reasonable point. You really aren't interested in discussing it. You simply want to tell people they are stupid for thinking Jones might see some success under Daboll.

What do you get out of doing this every day? And I say this as someone who would have liked to move on from Jones but realizes we didn't and bitching about it solves nothing.



So, I did a tower race (power stair climb up the Museum Tower) with FMiC in Charlotte this weekend. How was your weekend?


Nice, how did you do?

Weekend was good but flew by now that its not freezing cold anymore. Busy with my daughters activities, BBQ's, and yardwork which seems like it will be a weekly occurrence until the fall (not complaining).
I did well. It was only 43 floors, and I did it in less than 10  
Big Blue '56 : 5/3/2022 2:46 pm : link
minutes. FMiC did his first ever climb and really did well, though he left his lungs behind..😎

All these tower climbs/races benefit a charity or foundation. This one benefitted the 911 first reaponder families..

Sounds like you had a nice weekend..Yard work is excellent exercise
reaponder=responder  
Big Blue '56 : 5/3/2022 2:47 pm : link
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I've always been more concerned  
Dave on the UWS : 5/3/2022 2:48 pm : link
with his ability to run an offense and execute RATHER than his damn turnovers. When you take chances on big plays, you will screw up from time to time. If he's throwing for 300 yards, 3 TDs and he has a couple of INTs, as long as he delivers in crunch time, that's fine. (FYI- that was Eli).
Being so afraid of turnovers, that you can't execute is a waste at the position.
These Jones debates devolve into the same arguments  
mfsd : 5/3/2022 3:02 pm : link
IMO both sides are actually right. Jones has had just about the worst set of circumstances surrounding him of any QB in recent memory - org in disarray, multiple head coach/OC changes, awful OL, mediocre receivers

And, he’s also shown zero ability to elevate his play or the play of those around him.

I’ll root for him as long as he’s wearing blue. I also hope the search for his replacement has already begun. If Daboll and Kafka somehow turn him into a QB worth keeping, great problem to worry about next offseason

It does suck there was no Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow, Josh Allen type in this years draft, when we had the picks ready to make a move
RE: I did well. It was only 43 floors, and I did it in less than 10  
UConn4523 : 5/3/2022 3:40 pm : link
In comment 15697209 Big Blue '56 said:
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minutes. FMiC did his first ever climb and really did well, though he left his lungs behind..😎

All these tower climbs/races benefit a charity or foundation. This one benefitted the 911 first reaponder families..

Sounds like you had a nice weekend..Yard work is excellent exercise


That's pretty cool, haven't heard of it but i'll look it up and see if there's anything similar in my area. My knee is shot so I can't/shouldn't really do 5k's anymore so something like this could be interesting.

On the charity front this weekend is our annual beach cleanup that I'm hoping we can get to. My daughter is into just about everything outdoors so this is right up her alley. That said she started horse riding lessons which is around the same time and has been staying afterwards to learn how to take care of the horses and animals and its hard/I feel guilty pulling her away from that.
RE: Move on  
Scooter185 : 5/3/2022 3:43 pm : link
In comment 15697143 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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Front office has been cleaned out at the big spots. No reason to speculate or talk about the past. BD is very neutral in his comments. He is not saying he has elite skills. Likes some things and has even more questions. Hopes to give him better support from the team. It will be crystal clear what BD needs to do and it will 100% be his and JS's decision.

Be thankful we didn't reach for a QB that some here wanted at 5 or 7. It could have been far worse.


Definitely feels like a lot of those who would support Jones in the FO are gone. Although if Mustang Lover really is Petit, he apparently wanted Willis.

I'm pretty happy with where the Giants are today, the last week has shown that JS is in charge. When the time comes, I believe he'll get to draft his own QB

This is cool article  
Tom from LI : 5/3/2022 3:45 pm : link
That talks about if the Giants or the Bengals drafted Joe Montana instead of the 49ers.

It just lends the opinion that the program and situation that is run is as important as the player.

I said this in another thread. What if we drafted Josh Allan instead of Barkley? We could be having the same conversation right now that we are having about Jones.

A Draft Pick That Changed History - ( New Window )
RE: Terps  
sb from NYT Forum : 5/3/2022 3:45 pm : link
In comment 15697054 Archer said:
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Thanks for posting the video.
It is clear how much Jones has improved by comparing his Duke games to how he is performing as a Giant.

He looks completely different and has clearly improved his timing, footwork, reads, and his movement in the pocket.

I actually feel much better about Jones after watching.


Here is a link to the interview  
ZogZerg : 5/3/2022 3:53 pm : link
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Giants' Head Coach Brian Daboll Talks Draft & More | Tiki & Tierney [Full Interview] - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Interesting  
mittenedman : 5/3/2022 4:14 pm : link
In comment 15697130 Scooter185 said:
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that Daboll is emphasizing to Jones to play loose. It sounds like, at least in Daboll's opinion, it was beat into him to protect the football to the point it was detrimental to his play.

Let it rip. It's one of the big contrasts to DJ's play under Shurmur & Garrett.



Because letting it rip wasn't really working all that well the majority of his rookie year either.

We've seen a DJ who can let it rip and turn the ball over and a conservative DJ who doesn't turn the ball over but can't score. I don't think BD had magic quarterback dust that's going to change what DJ has been


That was his rookie year with a bad supporting cast. I'm old school - I still give QBs a few years to develop. I realize I'm in the minority, but I'm curious to see him play with reasonable conditions, including his own experience level.
Here  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/3/2022 4:18 pm : link
is the interview...
Giants' Head Coach Brian Daboll Talks Draft & More | Tiki & Tierney [Full Interview] - ( New Window )
Good interview. Tiki and Tierney asked good questions and brought  
Ira : 5/3/2022 4:26 pm : link
out a lot of where Daboll is coming from as a coach.
RE: RE: I did well. It was only 43 floors, and I did it in less than 10  
Big Blue '56 : 5/3/2022 4:26 pm : link
In comment 15697283 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 15697209 Big Blue '56 said:


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minutes. FMiC did his first ever climb and really did well, though he left his lungs behind..😎

All these tower climbs/races benefit a charity or foundation. This one benefitted the 911 first reaponder families..

Sounds like you had a nice weekend..Yard work is excellent exercise



That's pretty cool, haven't heard of it but i'll look it up and see if there's anything similar in my area. My knee is shot so I can't/shouldn't really do 5k's anymore so something like this could be interesting.

On the charity front this weekend is our annual beach cleanup that I'm hoping we can get to. My daughter is into just about everything outdoors so this is right up her alley. That said she started horse riding lessons which is around the same time and has been staying afterwards to learn how to take care of the horses and animals and its hard/I feel guilty pulling her away from that.


It’s very challenging, but rewarding. They say a half hour of stairclimbing is equivalent to an hour of running..

There are world wide rankings for this. I’ve done the run-ups for the Empire State building twice, I will do the 105 floor WTC/Freedom Tower next month for the second time, I’ve done the Sears/Willis tower twice, the Seattle Space Z eedle twice and the Vegas Stratosphere twice. A bunch of others throughout the country. I started in 2017..It can be brutal, especially if you haven’t trained well enough.

The nicest people I’ve ever met are Stairclimbers, of all ages from all over the world. I’m ranked 4th in the country in the over 70 group. There are a few climbers in their 90s if you can believe that. They’re awesome..

Sounds like your daughter would love this. Lots od climbers in their teens and 20s..
RE: RE: Terps  
Jimmy Googs : 5/3/2022 4:27 pm : link
In comment 15697293 sb from NYT Forum said:
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In comment 15697054 Archer said:


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Thanks for posting the video.
It is clear how much Jones has improved by comparing his Duke games to how he is performing as a Giant.

He looks completely different and has clearly improved his timing, footwork, reads, and his movement in the pocket.

I actually feel much better about Jones after watching.





nice one sb...
Space Zeedle=Space Needle  
Big Blue '56 : 5/3/2022 4:27 pm : link
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If they like DJ so much  
ArcadeSlumlord : 5/3/2022 4:46 pm : link
why wouldnt they pickup his relatively inexpensive 5th year option? HEH. So, coach him up so he can hold you up in free agency? I don't get it.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/3/2022 7:24 pm : link
I think 99.9% of BBI knows where the DJ story ends: with him no longer on our roster come this time next year. I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor is our starting QB fall '23 for a stopgap year. Build up the rest of the roster & God willing hit on a QB in next year or two & perhaps replicate what the 'Hawks did with Wilson: win a title with a QB on a rookie deal.
RE: Ugh here we go again.  
Since1976 : 5/3/2022 8:45 pm : link
In comment 15697120 Johnny5 said:
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The Jones antennas are out.


And it’s the same posters again and again and again and again. Broken records. Really makes making every thread that devolves a joy to read.
The .25 in your back pocket...  
Klaatu : 5/4/2022 7:22 am : link
Is more valuable then the .44 Magnum you left at home. Let's hope Daboll, Kafka, and Tierney can shoot straight with what they have.
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