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Joe Schoen on @WFAN660: "I think right tackle is a perfect fit for (Neal) right now... To plug him in at right tackle will be a really good fit for him."
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Joe Schoen on @WFAN660: "If Daniel can stay on his feet there are enough weapons on the team right now we can be a competitive team and get our best version of Daniel Jones."
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Joe Schoen said on WFAN that there should be a resolution to the James Bradberry situation by the end of the week. #Giants
Tom Rock
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Joe Schoen on @WFAN660 "We love Daniel Jones... we think he is a win-with player." Says not using the option is "not an indictment" or a signal that their feelings have changed.
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@DDuggan21
Joe Schoen said on WFAN they should have resolution on James Bradberry by the end of the week. This is obviously headed toward his release, probably sooner than later.
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@DDuggan21
Joe Schoen said on WFAN they should have resolution on James Bradberry by the end of the week. This is obviously headed toward his release, probably sooner than later.
if they simply were going to release him, I would think that there is little reason for it to drag on. They must have a proposal to him and his agent. But whatever…
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@DDuggan21
Joe Schoen said on WFAN they should have resolution on James Bradberry by the end of the week. This is obviously headed toward his release, probably sooner than later.
Really sucks if they release him now. He missed the freeagent period so the Giants played hardball with him. Don't like separations like this.
Some pretty dumb questions from Carton and Roberts but I’m really enjoying listening to Schoen. He’s providing some great insight. I’ll never understand why fans don’t care about hearing from their GM -I.e. Gettleman and the Knicks with Leon Rose.
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@DDuggan21
Joe Schoen said on WFAN they should have resolution on James Bradberry by the end of the week. This is obviously headed toward his release, probably sooner than later.
Really sucks if they release him now. He missed the freeagent period so the Giants played hardball with him. Don't like separations like this.
yes, and IF this is true, it’s the closest Schoen has come to a miscue since he’s been here - otherwise he’s been masterful.
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It's strange listening to #Giants Joe Schoen GM talk about the national vs. local media dynamic and how tough NY media is.
By all accounts, NY media thought Joe Judge deserved to be back. Had been told he would have rope and operated like it. National media forced him out.
He forced himself out. Gave his employer every reason to can him.
Certainly got a raw deal here as well not denying that but he had to do many things wrong to put himself in a situation to get fired and he did those many things.
Not sure what more they could have done. Doesn't sound like they had an offer before the draft. I too thought they might be able to get a pick for him during or right after the draft from a team that did not address CB.
Can't force a trading partner. He as as patient as he could have been.
The talk about a couple of teams being interested him (coming from Schoen himself) must have been BS. Mara's comments at the owner's meeting didn't help, but probably did not impact this.
Not sure what more they could have done. Doesn't sound like they had an offer before the draft. I too thought they might be able to get a pick for him during or right after the draft from a team that did not address CB.
Can't force a trading partner. He as as patient as he could have been.
The talk about a couple of teams being interested him (coming from Schoen himself) must have been BS. Mara's comments at the owner's meeting didn't help, but probably did not impact this.
agreed. designate him a post June 1 cut, pick up $10 mill in cap space and move on.
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@DDuggan21
Joe Schoen said on WFAN they should have resolution on James Bradberry by the end of the week. This is obviously headed toward his release, probably sooner than later.
So they’re going to release him after passing on Andrew Booth last week?
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@rydunleavy
It's strange listening to #Giants Joe Schoen GM talk about the national vs. local media dynamic and how tough NY media is.
By all accounts, NY media thought Joe Judge deserved to be back. Had been told he would have rope and operated like it. National media forced him out.
He forced himself out. Gave his employer every reason to can him.
Certainly got a raw deal here as well not denying that but he had to do many things wrong to put himself in a situation to get fired and he did those many things.
Seriously...national media forced Judge out? OK, sure...
He’s the only other starting CB on this team. And if this is another wasted season by November, I’d look to trade him and Barkley or whoever else is not going to be on the team next year
can't keep Bradberry because they need the cap space his release provides.
Schoen ate his $2M signing bonus because he thought he'd be able to trade him. The fact that true out to be false doesn't mean it wasn't a reasonable assumption.
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It's strange listening to #Giants Joe Schoen GM talk about the national vs. local media dynamic and how tough NY media is.
By all accounts, NY media thought Joe Judge deserved to be back. Had been told he would have rope and operated like it. National media forced him out.
Dunleavy strikes me as not too bright and over self-important with this line.
The MEDIA is a lot more than the beats who cover the team, especially now. Social media (which all the players have and pay a lot of attention to), talk radio, etc - there's more of it here in NY. Who cares about the beats lol.
RE: Cannot believe Joe Schoen said team success is dependent upon
if they are going to release him what is stopping them from doing it now?
unless I misheard, Schoen just confirmed he had compensation in place for JB trades but the other teams couldn't agree to extensions with JB. Takeaway being James Bradberry the player had trade value pre teams filling their needs in UFA/Draft. I personally wouldn't rush to cut a player with trade value because you never know when a team will lose a player to injury or suspension and all of sudden be back in the market. If Bradberry plays decent it's highly likely there's a trade market before the deadline.
the most (only?) logical thing holding up a decision at this point is financial. Do they have an extension on the table? If he declines, is their backup plan to release him or just restructure?
the best thing for his trade value would be a restructure, so i think that's what happens. And perhaps only as much as they need to sign their draft picks for now.
JJ might be the worst coach of all time in NYG history.....
For me after all his bluster, he never lived up to anything he said. Here's an all-timer. Remember when he said that they will treat every single play as if it had a life of it's own...." I'm paraphrasing there....And, then insult us by going into the "the turtle" formation on 2nd & 3rd down deep in our own end? Those 2 plays are a close second to "the Fumble".... Pure Embarrassment.
Tom Rock
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Joe Schoen on @WFAN660: "I think right tackle is a perfect fit for (Neal) right now... To plug him in at right tackle will be a really good fit for him."
I agree 100%.
We have our book ends for the next 8-10 years. I would be shocked otherwise.
Dan Duggan
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@DDuggan21
Joe Schoen said on WFAN they should have resolution on James Bradberry by the end of the week. This is obviously headed toward his release, probably sooner than later.
So they’re going to release him after passing on Andrew Booth last week?
You need to stop thinking this is 1 -year fix. It's going to take another year or two on top of this one.
Dan Duggan
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@DDuggan21
Joe Schoen said on WFAN they should have resolution on James Bradberry by the end of the week. This is obviously headed toward his release, probably sooner than later.
So they’re going to release him after passing on Andrew Booth last week?
You need to stop thinking this is 1 -year fix. It's going to take another year or two on top of this one.
Replacing Bradberry with Booth, or Gordon, would have been perfectly in line with a long term fix. Robinson is going for the quick fix.
just relistened here was schoen's exact quote re bradberry trades
here's the full question and answer. The point about the trades previously agreed to is bolded.
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Q: Are you surprised there wasn't that robust a trade market for him (Bradberry)?
A: "Yeah I was. I thought there'd be more interest. There were some teams that showed interest pre-draft and we had a couple different times there were compensation in place and the contract never worked out. Being that did have good talks with other teams and their agents, but sometimes if you're going to renegotiate a contract and you couldnt come to an agreement, it is what it is. Again, great kid, agents been great, great conversations and at some point we'll have a resolution by the end of the week."
now on the flip side, on a re-listen in the answer to the prior question he used the word "unfortunate" because "because he's a great kid" which would seemingly imply something negative upcoming, like an impending release into a market that doesn't have $13.4m unspent dollars in it for this year.
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Q: What's the status of James Bradberry, is he going to be on this team to start the year?
A: "Yeah we're working through that right now. His agents have been great, we've been in constant communication. I've talked to James, it's been very professional throughout the whole process, and we should have some resolution hopefully by the end of the week. It's unfortunate because he's a great kid, I know a lot about him when i was in buffalo Brandon Beane and Sean McDermott were in Carolina when they drafted him and always spoken very highly of the kid, and listen he's a starting corner in the league, it's just you know where we are financially, we need to sign our draft picks, practice squad, and replacement costs during the season."
and he declined. Because there wasn't much reason to keep him as long as they did if they planned to cut him. The only reason to have taken his contract down to the wire when the guaranteed $ vested was if there was an alternative under consideration.
RE: just relistened here was schoen's exact quote re bradberry trades
here's the full question and answer. The point about the trades previously agreed to is bolded.
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Q: Are you surprised there wasn't that robust a trade market for him (Bradberry)?
A: "Yeah I was. I thought there'd be more interest. There were some teams that showed interest pre-draft and we had a couple different times there were compensation in place and the contract never worked out. Being that did have good talks with other teams and their agents, but sometimes if you're going to renegotiate a contract and you couldnt come to an agreement, it is what it is. Again, great kid, agents been great, great conversations and at some point we'll have a resolution by the end of the week."
now on the flip side, on a re-listen in the answer to the prior question he used the word "unfortunate" because "because he's a great kid" which would seemingly imply something negative upcoming, like an impending release into a market that doesn't have $13.4m unspent dollars in it for this year.
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Q: What's the status of James Bradberry, is he going to be on this team to start the year?
A: "Yeah we're working through that right now. His agents have been great, we've been in constant communication. I've talked to James, it's been very professional throughout the whole process, and we should have some resolution hopefully by the end of the week. It's unfortunate because he's a great kid, I know a lot about him when i was in buffalo Brandon Beane and Sean McDermott were in Carolina when they drafted him and always spoken very highly of the kid, and listen he's a starting corner in the league, it's just you know where we are financially, we need to sign our draft picks, practice squad, and replacement costs during the season."
Thanks for supplying this. Indeed it sounds like release.
Maybe he communicated to Team JB to think through again what a restructured deal looks like that helps both sides, and he has until Friday to stipulate otherwise he is released.
Sounds like they gave him an option of a paycut, an "extension" or his release.
I'm assuming the reason it is dragging out is that Schoen gave his agent permission to talk to other teams "indirectly" to see what kind of contract he can get if he hits FA.
If the numbers are weak - he has option of coming back to Giants. If it's a strong FA market - which is very unlikely since there was apparently zero trade interest - he leaves. Just a guess, but only logically explanation for why it's dragging out and they are constantly in touch with each other.
the scenario i just laid out above where he cuts his salary $3.4m would play out like this (i think, can't recall another paycut restructure like this).
JB makes $10m this year, $9m converted to bonus, still hits UFA next year. Don't think he'd do better on the open market (Gilmore essentially got 1 year $9.5m).
His cap $ this year would go down to just under $14m, saving the nyg 9m+.
next year his already existing void year would carry about $5.8m of dead cap.
the key though is as a trade asset his value would go up because he'd basically count as the minimum for a team trading for him.
guess we'll see in the next few days but that is a scenario that fits with everything Schoen said.
Sounds like they gave him an option of a paycut, an "extension" or his release.
I'm assuming the reason it is dragging out is that Schoen gave his agent permission to talk to other teams "indirectly" to see what kind of contract he can get if he hits FA.
If the numbers are weak - he has option of coming back to Giants. If it's a strong FA market - which is very unlikely since there was apparently zero trade interest - he leaves. Just a guess, but only logically explanation for why it's dragging out and they are constantly in touch with each other.
Yup. I give Schoen a lot of credit for how he's seemingly played this. It seems like Bradberry's contract demands scuttled their plan A, and even still he's kept things respectful with his public comments. No bridges burned.
He said he let the agents go out there and have conversations. The right move. Don't let them live in a fantasy land that the grass is greener. Go find the better deal.
It seems he's willing to accept whatever outcome transpires even though it's unlikely not ideal, but he's played the scenario out to try to extract value as best he can. Bradberry's contract demands and the way UFA/draft fell may have just broken against him.
If Bradberry wants out I think they will let him out like Logan Ryan. If he wants in I think he will have to say yes on their terms. Ryan's contract gave him a lot more leverage to walk though.
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Joe Schoen on @WFAN660: "I think right tackle is a perfect fit for (Neal) right now... To plug him in at right tackle will be a really good fit for him."
I agree 100%.
We have our book ends for the next 8-10 years. I would be shocked otherwise.
I'm not sure that "right now" portends a 10 year plan
the scenario i just laid out above where he cuts his salary $3.4m would play out like this (i think, can't recall another paycut restructure like this).
JB makes $10m this year, $9m converted to bonus, still hits UFA next year. Don't think he'd do better on the open market (Gilmore essentially got 1 year $9.5m).
His cap $ this year would go down to just under $14m, saving the nyg 9m+.
next year his already existing void year would carry about $5.8m of dead cap.
the key though is as a trade asset his value would go up because he'd basically count as the minimum for a team trading for him.
guess we'll see in the next few days but that is a scenario that fits with everything Schoen said.
Might need even a bit more salary cut...not liking a dead cap exceeding $5M at first blush.
Nevertheless, good thoughts. My guess is JB doesn't give but who the hell knows...
is that everything with JB was on hold until after the draft to see how things played out. now they'll sit down with JB and see where his head's at. wink can tell him how he sees him fitting in to the scheme etc. if JB's not into it, he'll be released. If he wants to be here, they'll figure out a way.
Dan Duggan
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Joe Schoen said on WFAN they should have resolution on James Bradberry by the end of the week. This is obviously headed toward his release, probably sooner than later.
So they’re going to release him after passing on Andrew Booth last week?
You need to stop thinking this is 1 -year fix. It's going to take another year or two on top of this one.
Replacing Bradberry with Booth, or Gordon, would have been perfectly in line with a long term fix. Robinson is going for the quick fix.
Wtf? Why are Booth and Gordon long term fixes but Robinson is a short term fix? Because you wanted Booth or Gordon more? You act like Robinson is 32 years old with one year left on his contract….
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Joe Schoen on @WFAN660: "I think right tackle is a perfect fit for (Neal) right now... To plug him in at right tackle will be a really good fit for him."
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Joe Schoen on @WFAN660: "If Daniel can stay on his feet there are enough weapons on the team right now we can be a competitive team and get our best version of Daniel Jones."
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@ZackBlatt
Joe Schoen said on WFAN that there should be a resolution to the James Bradberry situation by the end of the week. #Giants
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Joe Schoen on @WFAN660 "We love Daniel Jones... we think he is a win-with player." Says not using the option is "not an indictment" or a signal that their feelings have changed.
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Joe Schoen on the lack of a trade market for James Bradberry: “I thought there would be more interest.” #Giants
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@DDuggan21
Joe Schoen said on WFAN they should have resolution on James Bradberry by the end of the week. This is obviously headed toward his release, probably sooner than later.
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@DDuggan21
Joe Schoen said on WFAN they should have resolution on James Bradberry by the end of the week. This is obviously headed toward his release, probably sooner than later.
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@DDuggan21
Joe Schoen said on WFAN they should have resolution on James Bradberry by the end of the week. This is obviously headed toward his release, probably sooner than later.
Really sucks if they release him now. He missed the freeagent period so the Giants played hardball with him. Don't like separations like this.
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Dan Duggan
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@DDuggan21
Joe Schoen said on WFAN they should have resolution on James Bradberry by the end of the week. This is obviously headed toward his release, probably sooner than later.
Really sucks if they release him now. He missed the freeagent period so the Giants played hardball with him. Don't like separations like this.
yes, and IF this is true, it’s the closest Schoen has come to a miscue since he’s been here - otherwise he’s been masterful.
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It's strange listening to #Giants Joe Schoen GM talk about the national vs. local media dynamic and how tough NY media is.
By all accounts, NY media thought Joe Judge deserved to be back. Had been told he would have rope and operated like it. National media forced him out.
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It's strange listening to #Giants Joe Schoen GM talk about the national vs. local media dynamic and how tough NY media is.
By all accounts, NY media thought Joe Judge deserved to be back. Had been told he would have rope and operated like it. National media forced him out.
He forced himself out. Gave his employer every reason to can him.
Certainly got a raw deal here as well not denying that but he had to do many things wrong to put himself in a situation to get fired and he did those many things.
Can't force a trading partner. He as as patient as he could have been.
The talk about a couple of teams being interested him (coming from Schoen himself) must have been BS. Mara's comments at the owner's meeting didn't help, but probably did not impact this.
Can't force a trading partner. He as as patient as he could have been.
The talk about a couple of teams being interested him (coming from Schoen himself) must have been BS. Mara's comments at the owner's meeting didn't help, but probably did not impact this.
agreed. designate him a post June 1 cut, pick up $10 mill in cap space and move on.
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Joe Schoen said on WFAN they should have resolution on James Bradberry by the end of the week. This is obviously headed toward his release, probably sooner than later.
So they’re going to release him after passing on Andrew Booth last week?
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Ryan Dunleavy
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@rydunleavy
It's strange listening to #Giants Joe Schoen GM talk about the national vs. local media dynamic and how tough NY media is.
By all accounts, NY media thought Joe Judge deserved to be back. Had been told he would have rope and operated like it. National media forced him out.
He forced himself out. Gave his employer every reason to can him.
Certainly got a raw deal here as well not denying that but he had to do many things wrong to put himself in a situation to get fired and he did those many things.
Seriously...national media forced Judge out? OK, sure...
Kay: what another JB?
JS: we'll have a resolution by the end of the week. It sucks because he's a good player, still a starting CB.
Definitely sounds like he's gone
Kay: what another JB?
JS: we'll have a resolution by the end of the week. It sucks because he's a good player, still a starting CB.
Definitely sounds like he's gone
*What about
Schoen ate his $2M signing bonus because he thought he'd be able to trade him. The fact that true out to be false doesn't mean it wasn't a reasonable assumption.
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@rydunleavy
It's strange listening to #Giants Joe Schoen GM talk about the national vs. local media dynamic and how tough NY media is.
By all accounts, NY media thought Joe Judge deserved to be back. Had been told he would have rope and operated like it. National media forced him out.
Judge being a terrible coach and getting worse every week cost him his job. Not to mention the clown show he put on during his press conferences.
How on earth could an owner bring a coach with that performance back?
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@rydunleavy
It's strange listening to #Giants Joe Schoen GM talk about the national vs. local media dynamic and how tough NY media is.
By all accounts, NY media thought Joe Judge deserved to be back. Had been told he would have rope and operated like it. National media forced him out.
Dunleavy strikes me as not too bright and over self-important with this line.
The MEDIA is a lot more than the beats who cover the team, especially now. Social media (which all the players have and pay a lot of attention to), talk radio, etc - there's more of it here in NY. Who cares about the beats lol.
I hope that's a joke...
unless I misheard, Schoen just confirmed he had compensation in place for JB trades but the other teams couldn't agree to extensions with JB. Takeaway being James Bradberry the player had trade value pre teams filling their needs in UFA/Draft. I personally wouldn't rush to cut a player with trade value because you never know when a team will lose a player to injury or suspension and all of sudden be back in the market. If Bradberry plays decent it's highly likely there's a trade market before the deadline.
the most (only?) logical thing holding up a decision at this point is financial. Do they have an extension on the table? If he declines, is their backup plan to release him or just restructure?
the best thing for his trade value would be a restructure, so i think that's what happens. And perhaps only as much as they need to sign their draft picks for now.
This really sucks because our secondary is going to get lit up. Don't see this ending well, personally.
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Joe Schoen on @WFAN660: "I think right tackle is a perfect fit for (Neal) right now... To plug him in at right tackle will be a really good fit for him."
I agree 100%.
We have our book ends for the next 8-10 years. I would be shocked otherwise.
This really sucks because our secondary is going to get lit up. Don't see this ending well, personally.
Tanking for Stroud/Young. This is still a bad football team even with Bradberry. Just compare the roster to the other teams in the division,
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Joe Schoen said on WFAN they should have resolution on James Bradberry by the end of the week. This is obviously headed toward his release, probably sooner than later.
So they’re going to release him after passing on Andrew Booth last week?
You need to stop thinking this is 1 -year fix. It's going to take another year or two on top of this one.
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Joe Schoen said on WFAN they should have resolution on James Bradberry by the end of the week. This is obviously headed toward his release, probably sooner than later.
So they’re going to release him after passing on Andrew Booth last week?
You need to stop thinking this is 1 -year fix. It's going to take another year or two on top of this one.
Replacing Bradberry with Booth, or Gordon, would have been perfectly in line with a long term fix. Robinson is going for the quick fix.
A: "Yeah I was. I thought there'd be more interest. There were some teams that showed interest pre-draft and we had a couple different times there were compensation in place and the contract never worked out. Being that did have good talks with other teams and their agents, but sometimes if you're going to renegotiate a contract and you couldnt come to an agreement, it is what it is. Again, great kid, agents been great, great conversations and at some point we'll have a resolution by the end of the week."
now on the flip side, on a re-listen in the answer to the prior question he used the word "unfortunate" because "because he's a great kid" which would seemingly imply something negative upcoming, like an impending release into a market that doesn't have $13.4m unspent dollars in it for this year.
A: "Yeah we're working through that right now. His agents have been great, we've been in constant communication. I've talked to James, it's been very professional throughout the whole process, and we should have some resolution hopefully by the end of the week. It's unfortunate because he's a great kid, I know a lot about him when i was in buffalo Brandon Beane and Sean McDermott were in Carolina when they drafted him and always spoken very highly of the kid, and listen he's a starting corner in the league, it's just you know where we are financially, we need to sign our draft picks, practice squad, and replacement costs during the season."
But ideally our qb would be a win because of player.
1 guess is they offered him a pay cut of some sort. Sort of like a hybrid paycut/restructure but if he doesn't take it they will cut him outright.
reduce the amount you were going to make from $13.4m to 10m, with $9m of that as signing bonus paid up front.
that way it only puts about $4.5m on to next year's cap and keeps the player (at a very tradable minimum salary).
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Q: Are you surprised there wasn't that robust a trade market for him (Bradberry)?
A: "Yeah I was. I thought there'd be more interest. There were some teams that showed interest pre-draft and we had a couple different times there were compensation in place and the contract never worked out. Being that did have good talks with other teams and their agents, but sometimes if you're going to renegotiate a contract and you couldnt come to an agreement, it is what it is. Again, great kid, agents been great, great conversations and at some point we'll have a resolution by the end of the week."
now on the flip side, on a re-listen in the answer to the prior question he used the word "unfortunate" because "because he's a great kid" which would seemingly imply something negative upcoming, like an impending release into a market that doesn't have $13.4m unspent dollars in it for this year.
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Q: What's the status of James Bradberry, is he going to be on this team to start the year?
A: "Yeah we're working through that right now. His agents have been great, we've been in constant communication. I've talked to James, it's been very professional throughout the whole process, and we should have some resolution hopefully by the end of the week. It's unfortunate because he's a great kid, I know a lot about him when i was in buffalo Brandon Beane and Sean McDermott were in Carolina when they drafted him and always spoken very highly of the kid, and listen he's a starting corner in the league, it's just you know where we are financially, we need to sign our draft picks, practice squad, and replacement costs during the season."
Thanks for supplying this. Indeed it sounds like release.
Maybe he communicated to Team JB to think through again what a restructured deal looks like that helps both sides, and he has until Friday to stipulate otherwise he is released.
I'm assuming the reason it is dragging out is that Schoen gave his agent permission to talk to other teams "indirectly" to see what kind of contract he can get if he hits FA.
If the numbers are weak - he has option of coming back to Giants. If it's a strong FA market - which is very unlikely since there was apparently zero trade interest - he leaves. Just a guess, but only logically explanation for why it's dragging out and they are constantly in touch with each other.
JB makes $10m this year, $9m converted to bonus, still hits UFA next year. Don't think he'd do better on the open market (Gilmore essentially got 1 year $9.5m).
His cap $ this year would go down to just under $14m, saving the nyg 9m+.
next year his already existing void year would carry about $5.8m of dead cap.
the key though is as a trade asset his value would go up because he'd basically count as the minimum for a team trading for him.
guess we'll see in the next few days but that is a scenario that fits with everything Schoen said.
I'm assuming the reason it is dragging out is that Schoen gave his agent permission to talk to other teams "indirectly" to see what kind of contract he can get if he hits FA.
If the numbers are weak - he has option of coming back to Giants. If it's a strong FA market - which is very unlikely since there was apparently zero trade interest - he leaves. Just a guess, but only logically explanation for why it's dragging out and they are constantly in touch with each other.
Yup. I give Schoen a lot of credit for how he's seemingly played this. It seems like Bradberry's contract demands scuttled their plan A, and even still he's kept things respectful with his public comments. No bridges burned.
He said he let the agents go out there and have conversations. The right move. Don't let them live in a fantasy land that the grass is greener. Go find the better deal.
It seems he's willing to accept whatever outcome transpires even though it's unlikely not ideal, but he's played the scenario out to try to extract value as best he can. Bradberry's contract demands and the way UFA/draft fell may have just broken against him.
If Bradberry wants out I think they will let him out like Logan Ryan. If he wants in I think he will have to say yes on their terms. Ryan's contract gave him a lot more leverage to walk though.
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Joe Schoen on @WFAN660: "I think right tackle is a perfect fit for (Neal) right now... To plug him in at right tackle will be a really good fit for him."
I agree 100%.
We have our book ends for the next 8-10 years. I would be shocked otherwise.
I'm not sure that "right now" portends a 10 year plan
JB makes $10m this year, $9m converted to bonus, still hits UFA next year. Don't think he'd do better on the open market (Gilmore essentially got 1 year $9.5m).
His cap $ this year would go down to just under $14m, saving the nyg 9m+.
next year his already existing void year would carry about $5.8m of dead cap.
the key though is as a trade asset his value would go up because he'd basically count as the minimum for a team trading for him.
guess we'll see in the next few days but that is a scenario that fits with everything Schoen said.
Might need even a bit more salary cut...not liking a dead cap exceeding $5M at first blush.
Nevertheless, good thoughts. My guess is JB doesn't give but who the hell knows...
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Joe Schoen said on WFAN they should have resolution on James Bradberry by the end of the week. This is obviously headed toward his release, probably sooner than later.
So they’re going to release him after passing on Andrew Booth last week?
You need to stop thinking this is 1 -year fix. It's going to take another year or two on top of this one.
Replacing Bradberry with Booth, or Gordon, would have been perfectly in line with a long term fix. Robinson is going for the quick fix.
Wtf? Why are Booth and Gordon long term fixes but Robinson is a short term fix? Because you wanted Booth or Gordon more? You act like Robinson is 32 years old with one year left on his contract….