Saw it last night and enjoyed it. Thought it was good not great. I liked the Illumnati scenes and the little extra horror part of it. Turned out to be a Scarlet Witch movie and ending in universe 616 at least. Mid credit scene throwing a nice curve ball and another big actress. Actually getting Krasinski was phenomenal. Wonder if he will stick in a future Fantastic 4 movie or they just used him for this for the fan service.
but my impression was this was going to be showing a bunch of surprises than what we got. Spiderman NWH was a better multiverse movie than this one.
Plus my main issues.
How are you going to have Reed Richards(the smartest person) do a stupid thing by telling SW how to kill Black Bolt?
What was the point of the good book since it was rendered useless? that whole thing was pointless.
And for the love of god, why did they stop running? they literally were being chased like crazy by a person limping and decided to stop to turn around? the f?
all in all, i get the angle they were going for but just wasnt executed right.
3 stars out of 5.
Big highlight was the Avatar trailer
Also, the scene where they were fighting with musical notes was perhaps the stupidest scene I’ve ever watched in a movie. It was embarrassing.
[b[Also, the scene where they were fighting with musical notes was perhaps the stupidest scene I’ve ever watched in a movie. It was embarrassing.[/b]
Yes I should have mentioned this. Very dumb and awful.
Somehow I'm blanking already but I'm thinking in trying to get to the good book is the way they needed to go in order to defeat Wanda even though they didn't actually use it.
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I thought it was really underwhelming. Really disappointed. The Illuminati scene was cool, but was also just shameless fan service. Weird plot points, the good book was utterly useless and stupid, no Vision appearance was strange…also, I feel like it did a bad job of creating emotional investment. Like, I didn’t care at all about Christine Palmer, or America Chavez….it was just poorly done.
Also, the scene where they were fighting with musical notes was perhaps the stupidest scene I’ve ever watched in a movie. It was embarrassing.
Yes I should have mentioned this. Very dumb and awful.
Somehow I'm blanking already but I'm thinking in trying to get to the good book is the way they needed to go in order to defeat Wanda even though they didn't actually use it.
1 - no vision appearance. what is the point of having his character survive wandavision if he's not going to appear in this movie
2 - i feel like christine palmer 616 should have died in front of strange and his rage caused him to use the evil book of spells. they also could have set up her marriage better. she could have survived the blip and met someone during the blip and then couldn't go back to strange to set up a real heartbreaking dynamic with her marriage instead of rushing it the way they did. this would have taken 10 extra minutes and set the tone for strange being unhappy
3 - musical battle was VERY dumb. that had a chance to be an amazing scene and they fucked it up
4 - wanda killing captain marvel the way she did was bad. it would take way more than that to kill captain marvel. they should have had wanda kill her the way she blew up the mind stone
5 - charles xavier should not go out like that. he could have had a better scene in the movie. they easily could have had him teach america how to use her powers and they could have had him try to help both wanda's when he entered her mind. missed opportunities
6 - i would have preferred the ancient one come back instead or mordo. could have set up an ancient one vs wanda battle which would have been much more entertaining than the strange vs mordo battle
Did it get a little extra silly? Yes. Were there certain plot points that were kinda questionable? Yes. Could the ending have been slightly longer? IMO yes.
But overall, I thought it was awesome. I also saw it in IMAX 3D which made it an even better experience, as there was a ton of visual eye candy in this one.
A couple of other notes.
- Elizabeth Olsen steals the movie with her acting. I knew she was a good actress but she was amazing in this movie.
- the scene with the Illuminati vs. Scarlet Witch was insane, best scene of the movie imo
- Whoever decided to give away half the movie in the trailer they recently released for it is an idiot, thank God I didn’t see that version of the trailer before I saw the movie
They introduced the concept of "incursion" which I'm sure is how mutants, FF4 and the Scarlet Witch/Wiccan/Speed all end up in the cinematic universe. I just sort of thought it would start here.
I like Evil Dead because its funny and a horror and has it's own feel. I thought I wanted an MCU movie like that but it turns out I didn't. It felt jarring and the humor didn't translate at all.
America Chavez was a magcuffin, the book of Ashanti was a fake macguffin. I dunno.
Strangely, one of my biggest gripe in it was that one mage sacrificed themselves stabbing the Darkhold and then Wong is like "don't worry Wanda, I'll tell you how to continue your reign of terror because you threatened 4 no name people who I thought were dead 2 minutes ago."
Agree with most everyone's points already.
1) Wong gave up the Darkhold, which along with it the fate of the multi-verse, to easily.
2) Really was hoping the end credits of WandaVision lead more to Wanda looking for a way to bring back Vision permanently. Instead we got a weak storyline about Wanda and her kids.
3) Music Notes battle was cringe worthy...probably sounded cool in the script but didn't play out well on the big screen.
4) What good is it to have an Indiana Jones type quest for the Book of Ashanti and it turns out to be a pointless way to move a weak movie storyline plot.
5) Illuminati was cool, especially the cameos of Professor X and Mr. Fantastic but wish that storyline was a bit longer and that they have more of an outcome to the movie's outcome than being cannon fodder for Wanda to destroy.
Overall it was sort of entertaining. I love watching MCU movies and fairly often re-watch some of my favorites multiple times.
Although like those sequel movies listed above, I highly doubt I'll watch any of these films a second time.
1. The entire movie felt rushed. The last we saw of Wanda she had come to the realization that she was wrong for imprisoning the people of Westview, and fought with Agatha Harkness to redeem herself. Yes there was a post credit scene of her reading the Darkhold, but really we just pick right up into this movie with her being in full villain mode? What was the point of the redemption arc at the end of WandaVision if they were just going to forget about it in the first couple of scenes of this movie? The movie could have benefitted from 10-15 minutes of setting up why Wanda had reverted.
2. I thought the Illuminati was a huge let down, it felt like the version we would have gotten if they had first debuted in Agents of Shield. Something just looked off about their appearance, and these are supposed to be some of the most powerful heroes in the multiverse, Wanda can just discard them that easily?
3. WandaVision, No Way Home, and Multiverse of Madness were supposedly going to all be connected. It's very clear how WandaVision built into this, but Spider-Man was not connected at all. I had figured the Multiverse of Madness was going to be a result of the events of No Way Home causing instability in the multiverse, but nothing about that movie had any implications on anything that happened here.
Agree with most everyone's points already.
1) Wong gave up the Darkhold, which along with it the fate of the multi-verse, to easily.
2) Really was hoping the end credits of WandaVision lead more to Wanda looking for a way to bring back Vision permanently. Instead we got a weak storyline about Wanda and her kids.
3) Music Notes battle was cringe worthy...probably sounded cool in the script but didn't play out well on the big screen.
4) What good is it to have an Indiana Jones type quest for the Book of Ashanti and it turns out to be a pointless way to move a weak movie storyline plot.
5) Illuminati was cool, especially the cameos of Professor X and Mr. Fantastic but wish that storyline was a bit longer and that they have more of an outcome to the movie's outcome than being cannon fodder for Wanda to destroy.
Overall it was sort of entertaining. I love watching MCU movies and fairly often re-watch some of my favorites multiple times.
Although like those sequel movies listed above, I highly doubt I'll watch any of these films a second time.
Gaurdians 2 and Ant-Man 2 I thought were quite good, the other 2, not so much.
I agree Dr. Strange underwhelmed for some reason. Was it Sam Raimi? Was it too much studio interference? I enjoyed it, but I sort of wish the director of the first Dr. Strange had a shot at this. I'm a big fan of Sam Raimi, but I feel like maybe he just wasn't a great fit here.
I would argue it was a "ruining the character of Wanda" movie.
I also don't understand how Wanda learned of America in the first place. Did the Darkhold do that, too? She magically happened to stumble upon her while dreamwalking? That went completely unexplained.
That said, I love Sam Raimi and I did genuinely enjoy seeing his take on a modern day MCU flick. It didn't all work, but I was entertained if not ultimately a little let down. Ultimately, I wanted a Doctor Strange sequel. It seems the next Dr Strange movie has a much better chance of going there.
They could have even introduced Wanda's nightmares and dreaming about alternate versions of her children and have those desires of her children that the Darkhold is putting in her mind trump her feelings for Vision.
Because the Wanda in this movie would have been powerful enough to bring Vision back to life if she wanted too. It would have been nice to get some sort of 5 minute explanation why she didn't do so.
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A lot of sequel movies in the MCU fail to leave a mark. Only exception is Captain America: Winter Soldier, which is in my Top 5 among all MCU films.
Agree with most everyone's points already.
1) Wong gave up the Darkhold, which along with it the fate of the multi-verse, to easily.
2) Really was hoping the end credits of WandaVision lead more to Wanda looking for a way to bring back Vision permanently. Instead we got a weak storyline about Wanda and her kids.
3) Music Notes battle was cringe worthy...probably sounded cool in the script but didn't play out well on the big screen.
4) What good is it to have an Indiana Jones type quest for the Book of Ashanti and it turns out to be a pointless way to move a weak movie storyline plot.
5) Illuminati was cool, especially the cameos of Professor X and Mr. Fantastic but wish that storyline was a bit longer and that they have more of an outcome to the movie's outcome than being cannon fodder for Wanda to destroy.
Overall it was sort of entertaining. I love watching MCU movies and fairly often re-watch some of my favorites multiple times.
Although like those sequel movies listed above, I highly doubt I'll watch any of these films a second time.
Gaurdians 2 and Ant-Man 2 I thought were quite good, the other 2, not so much.
I agree Dr. Strange underwhelmed for some reason. Was it Sam Raimi? Was it too much studio interference? I enjoyed it, but I sort of wish the director of the first Dr. Strange had a shot at this. I'm a big fan of Sam Raimi, but I feel like maybe he just wasn't a great fit here.
I also thought Guardians 2 and Ant-Man 2 were quite good too but my comment was those 4 sequels "failed to leave a mark" in the MCU. Most of these other movies were good enough to watch multiple times. Those sequels, not really.
Now Thor franchise turned it around with the 3rd movie with Thor Ragnarök and the 4th movie Thor Love and Thunder looks good from the trailer. Hopefully the next Guardians, Ant-Man and especially Dr. Strange movies will follow suit.
I thought the movie was a real mess for the most part but I heard that they cut out a lot which I am assuming included Deadpool, Tom Cruise Iron Man supreme, etc.
The one thing I will applaud is the job of marvel not leaking spoilers. Until the movie premiered there was only theories of Krasinksi being in it. Plus I didn't see one single reference to Charlize Theron being in the movie. Marvel was as good as Joe Schoen in preventing leaks.