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Warner, the Hall of Fame QB, responded to Ryan Tannehill saying he didn’t think it was his job to mentor rookie Malik Willis. Kurt Warner @kurt13warner I will never understand the “I’m not here to mentor the next guy” mentality… so for all you young QBs that need a mentor, DM me & Ill be that guy, happy to help in any way I can! 12:51 PM · May 3, 2022 |
Don't like this calling out people via Twitter. Pick up the phone KW. Like he is willing to assist the young man but could do without calling out others or looking for a pat on the back.
My recollection is that he was still always good to Eli (and I think they've both talked about that aspect).
Don't like this calling out people via Twitter. Pick up the phone KW. Like he is willing to assist the young man but could do without calling out others or looking for a pat on the back.
Mostly recall the same as above.
Eli definitely said Warner was helpful but that could also just have been Eli taking the high road because he had class.
Warner has had instances of putting off some with his choice of words and edgy opinions since he left the field of play.
was a total hypocrite when it came to being a good teammate
Eli Manning
@EliManning
Thanks for being such a class act and great mentor for me.
Kurt Warner
@kurt13warner
I know what my man #FitzMagic is feeling, in 04 w/ NYG we were playoff team after 9 games (& i wasn’t playing as well as Fitz) when they moved 2 @EliManning - sucked 4 me - but I knew it wasn’t about that season but the future & I’d have to say it worked out pretty well 4 Gmen!
Link - ( New Window )
That's what I remember. I think the team wanted Warner to finish the season becasue they had a winning record, but he was still recovering from his thumb injury.
And Warner may have been a bit of a bitch to Eli, but keep in mind that he convinced TC to stick with Eli when he was struggling early.
Eli Manning
@EliManning
Thanks for being such a class act and great mentor for me.
Kurt Warner
@kurt13warner
I know what my man #FitzMagic is feeling, in 04 w/ NYG we were playoff team after 9 games (& i wasn’t playing as well as Fitz) when they moved 2 @EliManning - sucked 4 me - but I knew it wasn’t about that season but the future & I’d have to say it worked out pretty well 4 Gmen! Link - ( New Window )
That is not how this went down. This is spin. We talked about this for years. He was pissed at being benched. Maybe by the end of it he sucked it up. But that would be the same thing for Ryan give him some time to live with it, not just jump on him for his initial reaction and hurt.
Kerry said after the Giants hired Tom Coughlin, Coughlin walked past in the hallway and didn't even look at him he knew his time with the Giants was over. It probably wasn't just that they drafted Eli
I don't recall anything about him refusing the work with Eli after that.
I don't recall anything about him refusing the work with Eli after that.
He was an interception and sack taking machine. Years ago, there were these funny Tecmo Bowl gifs someone created and, Kurt Warner was one of them. He just stood there for about 15 seconds and then gets sacked. Completely accurate.
It was Collins who did not want to mentor a young QB and didn't want to compete in any way for the starting spot.
It was Collins who did not want to mentor a young QB and didn't want to compete in any way for the starting spot.
Knew right away that hot streak at the beginning of the season was a fluke. It was only a matter of time they fell on their faces, and they did.
About to go up 3 scores and then your whole season unravels after one penalty call?
Do other teams do that shit?
Don't like this calling out people via Twitter. Pick up the phone KW. Like he is willing to assist the young man but could do without calling out others or looking for a pat on the back.
Throughout the comments on that tweet, KW repeatedly uses phrases like, "but maybe that's just me!" in a way that feels very clearly like he's trying to pat himself on the back.
Yes Collins flat out refused and that was the end of his Giants tenure. Warner was brought in and was very vocal about being benched when we were 5-4. Actually there grumblings from a few of the vets on the team (most notably Tiki Barber).
Hard to know how much he "mentored" (or not) Eli while he was here.
In comment 15702617 Lines of Scrimmage said:
Don't like this calling out people via Twitter. Pick up the phone KW. Like he is willing to assist the young man but could do without calling out others or looking for a pat on the back.
In comment 15702855 Big Blue Blogger said:
Warner was awful in the Chicago game too. Took so many unnecessary sacks and had wide open guys.
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By sucking ass the following week against Arizona, Warner made the decision easy for Coughlin.
Warner was awful in the Chicago game too. Took so many unnecessary sacks and had wide open guys.
I remember being so frustrated with him that game. We started out well and then we just couldn't do anything on offense.
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Kerry Collins refusing to mentor Eli and he was shipped out and Warner was brought in for that one year- 2004- to mentor Eli.
Kerry said after the Giants hired Tom Coughlin, Coughlin walked past in the hallway and didn't even look at him he knew his time with the Giants was over. It probably wasn't just that they drafted Eli
I read an article interviewing Collins after he retired, and in it he did say that the Giants offered him the opportunity to stay with the Giants and mentor Eli but he had no interest in doing that and instead chose to move on.
Giants actually recovered an onside kick and had a chance but somehow fucking blew it. That game was pure shit. I was really steaming after that one.
I remember all the goofy rumors we came up with at the lunch table .... actually all came true.
Eli says Warner was a class act and a good mentor. I don't see any reason to not believe Eli other than for some people it doesn't fit their narrative of Warner.
I was at that game. IIRC, they went for it on 4th down before the end of the half, turned the ball over and AZ scored.
My recollection is that he was still always good to Eli (and I think they've both talked about that aspect).
That’s how I remember it. He didn’t like being benched so quickly, but he was OK with being vet mentor to Eli. If memory serves
Neither will Charlie Conerly's, even though you claim to have a handle of the fan consensus back then.
If you're old enough to remember #42 and the fan sentiment surrounding him, go play some shuffleboard.
Not as a "washed up" has-been, but very focused and knowing he had the ability to go to go his 3rd Super Bowl. He felt very disrespected by the Rams. (Recall, how we, here at BBI, heard about it ad nauseam from Kurt's wife).
So there you have it, a frustrated champion wit a huge chip on his shoulder, trying to prove himself, thrown in the water to teach the young kid (Eli) how to swim. Most fans here, were very excited about Eli, not about the possibility of the Old man delivering a Lombardi.
Kurt started, and stunk it up; Eli watched him and learned nothing except the conviction that he could do better.(All this while Archie and brother Peyton whined about why Eli wasn't starting). Kurt grew bitter.
Eli, ever the gentleman that he's always been, kept and remains complimentary and gracious to Kurt. Kurt, these days, sees a little bit of his old ugly self in guys like Tannehill who are not interested in passing the baton, and doesn't like it.
He sure played better with Arizona a few years later though...
Threw him into the trash can, after the two Super Bowl appearances would "piss off the pope".
I don't blame him for being sore, but over the years, he doesn't seem like he'll ever get over it (and the way he acted when he came over to the Giants).
IIRC, Hester ran back a punt or KO for a TD too.
14-0.
The Giants were deep in Chicago territory and again about to go up 3 possessions but there was a hold on Toomer and Warner fumbled and everything fell apart there. It was a completely different game.
I was not angry. My dad gave me a wose lecture in the parking lot.
When going to Giants games was actually something to brag about lol