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new USFL: Anyone watching or still watching?

jnoble : 5/9/2022 12:15 pm
I think the ratings so far have been OK, but the couple games I tried watching couldn't hold my attention. Not knowing any of the players or having an emotional attachment to a particular team is a hard thing to get past. I don't have much faith it's going to last long.
Ditto.  
Red Dog : 5/9/2022 12:19 pm : link
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The stands are empty too  
56n11bestever : 5/9/2022 12:31 pm : link
Ditto to your comments

Hard to get excited when there are no fans in the stands
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arcarsenal : 5/9/2022 12:36 pm : link
I tried to watch a game or two and just couldn't do it. Nothing about it excites me. The quality of play is meh, there's no one in the stands.

I just don't see another football league working. XFL, AAF or USFL.. none of them are going to be able to hold fan appeal long enough to succeed.
I accidentally put  
JayBinQueens : 5/9/2022 12:38 pm : link
a game on the other week.

On the opening kickoff the place kicker fell as he made the kick.

I turned it off immediately after
There is no market for what is essentially minor-league football  
Mike from Ohio : 5/9/2022 12:42 pm : link
These are not the players you know from college football, you know they are only playing here because they aren't good enough to play in the NFL, and they have no history in the community. Football in front of a largely empty stadium is depressing.

The only way an alternative league would truly work is if it functioned like the minor leagues in baseball and hockey. If they were affiliated with your NFL team and had up and coming players, there would be some level of investment. But the NFL doesn't work like those sports and draft picks don't need years to get ready like those sports.
RE: .  
Vanzetti : 5/9/2022 12:47 pm : link
In comment 15702975 arcarsenal said:
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I tried to watch a game or two and just couldn't do it. Nothing about it excites me. The quality of play is meh, there's no one in the stands.

I just don't see another football league working. XFL, AAF or USFL.. none of them are going to be able to hold fan appeal long enough to succeed.


You would have to be willing to run the league at a huge loss for at least five years

Agree on all counts.  
redwhiteandbigblue : 5/9/2022 12:48 pm : link
Boring product and depressing optics with empty stands.
RE: The stands are empty too  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/9/2022 12:50 pm : link
In comment 15702963 56n11bestever said:
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Ditto to your comments

Hard to get excited when there are no fans in the stands

Are they still playing all the games in Birmingham?

That's a pretty good reason for why the stands are empty. You're asking people in a relatively small city to take interest in an assortment of teams rather than just one team that they can become a fan of, and there's very little reason for those who would otherwise be fans of the teams that represent other cities to travel to Birmingham to see a game.

Taken a step further, football tickets are so overwhelmingly sold as season tickets that removing that from the equation along with the geographical issue makes the tickets a really tough sell for this year.

I'd give them a pass on the empty stands until the teams are all located in their respective markets.
RE: There is no market for what is essentially minor-league football  
BLUATHRT : 5/9/2022 12:51 pm : link
In comment 15702988 Mike from Ohio said:
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These are not the players you know from college football, you know they are only playing here because they aren't good enough to play in the NFL, and they have no history in the community. Football in front of a largely empty stadium is depressing.

The only way an alternative league would truly work is if it functioned like the minor leagues in baseball and hockey. If they were affiliated with your NFL team and had up and coming players, there would be some level of investment. But the NFL doesn't work like those sports and draft picks don't need years to get ready like those sports.


I think there would be a big market for this. As opposed to a practice squad, why not function with a minor league team per organization. There's certainly enough D1 players and would be enough interest in minor league football if guys were drafted or signed by the NFL club and you actually got to see guys develop in a game setting that isn't preseason.
With it being at a neutral site  
Jints in Carolina : 5/9/2022 1:20 pm : link
I can't get into it.
I watched the first  
cuty suzuki : 5/9/2022 1:26 pm : link
two Generals games. The next two were on some streaming platform and I couldn't watch. I loved the original USFL and the Generals. Just paying slight attention to it now out of nostalgia. Spring football is a good idea. I hate that the NFL keeps moving games into January and February. It is cold at the Meadowlands. I wish that the season was started earlier in the Summer when they add mare games/playoff rounds.
They started too late in the year  
MNP70 : 5/9/2022 1:31 pm : link
Should have been right after the SB, IMO
Not watching and will never watch  
ZogZerg : 5/9/2022 1:41 pm : link
I'd rather watch baseball or even real Soccer
than scrub football players running around in some BS league.
RE: There is no market for what is essentially minor-league football  
Greg from LI : 5/9/2022 1:47 pm : link
In comment 15702988 Mike from Ohio said:
Quote:
The only way an alternative league would truly work is if it functioned like the minor leagues in baseball and hockey. If they were affiliated with your NFL team and had up and coming players, there would be some level of investment. But the NFL doesn't work like those sports and draft picks don't need years to get ready like those sports.


The AAFL (or whatever that league that Fassel coached in was) attempted to be that, IIRC. Their plan was to operate for a few years in the hope that they could arrange a deal with the NFL to be a developmental league.
I think the NFL will ultimately fund the league  
DomerGiant2008 : 5/9/2022 3:35 pm : link
to use as a minor league product and to test out rule modifications and new technologies
Watched 1st Half Sat,  
clatterbuck : 5/9/2022 4:03 pm : link
NJ Generals and Pittsburgh Maulers. Kyle Lauletta was Maulers QB. He was not impressive and the only name I recognized. Not a good product.
I am watching  
Paulie Walnuts : 5/9/2022 8:22 pm : link
And enjoying some of these kids will get looks in NFL camps
Seems like it's more for show  
ghost718 : 5/9/2022 8:38 pm : link
and that's never going to attract die hard football fans.A developmental league so we can pretend to care about all the guys that are being bounced around from team to team,or not able to make an NFL roster anymore.

I think if they're looking for a recipe for success,try to be be the opposite of the NFL.
I'd rather watch a woman's pro league.  
Geomon : 5/9/2022 9:54 pm : link
At least they'd try. I've seen better football in high school.
I watch it  
TroutMan : 5/9/2022 11:21 pm : link
and have an emotional investment in one of the teams.
I was at the opening weekend and it was pretty cool. Got to go behind the scenes. Met Daryl Johnston a a bunch of other guys. Lots of former NFL coaches, I walked out with one of my friends who's a coach for one of the teams after the team took the field . I was watching all the activity going on with the players and the media. Then I looked forward and the was a camera man filming us as we walked out onto the field. It's pretty amazing all of the big time production that Fox is putting into the TV portion of the league. Lots of innovations which may translate to the NFL. Watched the game up in one of the suites. After halftime I went up to the coaches box and watched the second half there. What an eye opener. Needless to say I had a great time.

The Brimingham team had the stadium filled to almost 2/3 capacity, not bad for a fledgling team and league. It was also raining earlier in the day with thunderstorms.

As for the players they are young for the most part and mainly from D1 programs. There are some practice squad guys and some former NFL starters. They play with heart and are totally invested into their teams. They still love the game and are hoping for a chance to the NFL. Not unlike your local minor league baseball team. They a chasing their dreams. I wouldn't be surprised if some of these players are invited to NFL training camps. That alone could make this a success moving forward., as better talent will want to showcase their skills.

All in all in enjoy the USFL. To be honest I figured I wouldn't like it, but seeing these young men go out and compete for their dreams is inspiring.
I watched week one  
Stu11 : 5/10/2022 9:00 am : link
mainly because I had Covid and was stuck in my room lol. Honestly it wasn't bad. Just have forgotten about it since.

Honestly the original USFL had a real chance to succeed. It had a good formula and sweet spot- cities like Birmingham, Memphis, Baltimore, Orlando, San Antonio etc... that didn't have NFL franchises and were hungry for pro ball along with established big markets that had varying degree of interest for it like NY, Philly, Houston, Detroit and LA. you had rich owners like Bassett, he who shall not be named, and others that had the desire and $ to compete with the NFL for talent. Back then the sports market was not so saturated and football was so popular that there was a niche for it in the spring. If they just would have stayed in the spring they could have had a decent run before probably having to fold or in most probability pull an ABA and merge some teams from said empty NFL markets like Memphis, SA, Baltimore or Birmingham into the league. They ruined it with the assinine idea to try and move into the fall and sue the NFL. That was the death null.
The NJ Generals are pretty good! They play a defense and running style  
mikeinbloomfield : 5/10/2022 9:11 am : link
game. I think having all the games in one place, while I understand this makes it cheaper to produce, is a missed opportunity.

NFL games are expensive, and like minor league baseball, someone who wants to take his family to a football game and doesn't want to drop $500 might want to watch it in person.

But maybe that's in the cards. The level of play is not there yet, but these guys met each other a couple months ago.
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