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| Without looking at redoing any deals, here are some players that can be cut Name/ Salary/ Dead/ Savings James Bradberry/ $21,863,889/ $9,727,778/ $12,136,111 Released Blake Martinez/ $14,025,000/ $5,500,000/ $8,525,000 Restructured Sterling Shepard/ $12,495,000/ $7,990,000/ $4,505,000 Restructured Kyle Rudolph/ $7,425,000/ $2,425,000/ $5,000,000 Released Riley Dixon/ $3,120,566/ $320,566/ $2,800,000 Released Darius Slayton/ $2,598,497/ $58,497/ $2,540,000 Devante Booker/ $3,125,000/ $1,000,000/ $2,125,000 Released $37,631,111 A couple other options would be to designate Shepard as post 6/1 cut. That kicks about $4M dead money to next year but increases savings by $4M. Another option would be to try and trade Logan Ryan. Cutting him saves almost nothing, but if you can get a low round pick for him, that clears $7M in space. Released Many on the above list either are going to be coming back from injury or underwhelmed so it won't be as painful to cut that much $$ if they choose to go the above route. |
I did not think they would eat that much dead money
I did not think they would eat that much dead money
I was surprised by that one too. I thought they could get a 2023 late round pick for him but based on the Bradberry market that seemed like wishful thinking.
It makes sense to try and eat as much dead money this year as possible which is why i think they ultimately chose to release Ryan
i feel for wink though, that is a thin defense. that man could use some veteran depth even if it's just a few at the minimum.
Even after a successful draft and some solid FA targets being brought in, this team’s talent level is such that overachieving likely means 4-6 wins- and the true win total is likely lower than that.
I’m beginning to see some shades of last off-season where people got overly optimistic and began talking playoffs and winning season. This team is NOT competitive- and even with Bradberry and others would not have been. They won 4 games last year and probably should not have won 2 of those.
Yes, the OL will be improved and the LB will likely improve. However QB is a big question mark and so are WR and RB. TE is a vacuum. The interior DL may be good and the pass rush might be improved.
THe big problem is that people are expecting the upper end of likely outcomes from rookies- and history tells us that doesn’t happen. Daboll still doesn’t have the pieces to run his offense and Wink doesn’t have the depth to play his defense. That’s all next year’s FA and another draft away.
No one cares about the whiners who bitch and moan about watching a decade of losing teams. Talk to the fans from the 60’s through 1982- that was bad football. Get your mind wrapped around the idea of another bad season- with the only positive that the Giants will show improvement in OL and other areas- but still won’t be good.
Even after a successful draft and some solid FA targets being brought in, this team’s talent level is such that overachieving likely means 4-6 wins- and the true win total is likely lower than that.
You're a real ray of sunshine aren't ya?
I’m beginning to see some shades of last off-season where people got overly optimistic and began talking playoffs and winning season. This team is NOT competitive- and even with Bradberry and others would not have been. They won 4 games last year and probably should not have won 2 of those.
Yes, the OL will be improved and the LB will likely improve. However QB is a big question mark and so are WR and RB. TE is a vacuum. The interior DL may be good and the pass rush might be improved.
THe big problem is that people are expecting the upper end of likely outcomes from rookies- and history tells us that doesn’t happen. Daboll still doesn’t have the pieces to run his offense and Wink doesn’t have the depth to play his defense. That’s all next year’s FA and another draft away.
No one cares about the whiners who bitch and moan about watching a decade of losing teams. Talk to the fans from the 60’s through 1982- that was bad football. Get your mind wrapped around the idea of another bad season- with the only positive that the Giants will show improvement in OL and other areas- but still won’t be good.
All of which is to say I'm for taking as much of the cap pain as possible in 2022. The League has passed judgment on the mess Dave Gettleman left behind, by refusing to take on any of his contracts. Nothing left to do but take our medicine, for at least one more season.
2. IF a player is entering their third contract period, unless that player is extremely desirable or non-injury prone, offer the minimum or very little above minimum.
3. If a player is entering their second contract, make it friendly to the cap to cut or trade.
Schoen has gotten a great lesson in NOT WHAT to do thanks to the foolhardiness of Gettleman.
Schoen has cleared $33.5 million by cutting Ryan, running back Devontae Booker, tight end Kyle Rudolph, tight end Kaden Smith and punter Riley Dixon; getting wide receiver Sterling Shepard and linebacker Blake Martinez to take pay cuts; and restructuring the contracts of cornerback Adoree’ Jackson and kicker Graham Gano. The releases left $15.2 million in dead money on this year’s cap, while the pay cuts and restructures pushed $12 million into the future.
Technically, the $33.5 million in savings is at $32.3 million right now. That’s because Ryan filed a grievance against the Giants claiming that he’s owed $3 million, according to sources. While the sides await a resolution, 40 percent of the disputed amount counts on the cap, so that’s $1.2 million that isn’t currently available.
What Eric on Li said, haha.
If you go to spotrac right now, the are a couple of interesting observations:
1. The Giants have the third youngest team as of right now.
2. Top 51 salary cap space is $15M which puts us 9th in the league for available cap space.
3. Spotrac estimates we need $14M to sign our draft picks so we are good for now.
I would anticipate Schoen frees up more room later in the summer, some guys to keep an eye for not making the roster would be Slayton, Ximines, and Gates (this would be health related, IMO).
otherwise mostly agree. I think once they see where Gates' health is in camp they will they will extend/paycut him because it's in everyone's interest to add on a year if he isn't 100%.
Ximines I wouldn't be surprised to see get cut pre-camp if they decide to add a veteran or 2 on defense to a VSB contract (which I expect they will do). I saw a stat the other day that he hasn't actually touched a QB since 2019 and they are now pretty deep on the edges.
Slayton is in a spot where he needs to win a roster spot in camp, and even if he does it may be for another team.
also 1 other minor accounting point, thanks to offsets from cutting Ryan and Bradberry Schoen may have another 3-4m in credits coming back on the 2023 cap. So he has actually cut about 46-47m depending on the outcome of Ryan's grievance, with some of that savings carried over into next year.