Colts scout Mike Derice joins Giants

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is a short video of Derice discussing the Colts draft
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Saying he just wanted to sleep/rest after draft.....

He must have been interviewing for awhile...no?

I swear I had no idea that the Giants were looking at him. He always impressed me in the YouTube series that the Colts put out each year. Seems very humble/blue collar. The Colts seem to value his opinions a lot as they have drafted a lot of players from his territory. I also heard Nick Cross on NFL Radio talking about how positive of a relationship that he had with Mike Derice leading up to the draft.

The Colts certainly have seemed like they know what they're doing in the draft

Schoen hires seem really promising. This guy seems really sharp and a young guy too. Time to get younger and smarter.

but have we also turned over some lower level scouts?

Anybody heard of other departures?

that they're taking up-and-comers from multiple organizations. Gets a nice broad view of the league and how other successful teams are operating.

In comment 15704174 George from PA said:

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Saying he just wanted to sleep/rest after draft..... He must have been interviewing for awhile...no?

I assume that a lot of these hires must have been discussed early on in Schoen's interview process or soon after, saying when/if I get this job I'd like to have you on-board. Front office turnover doesn't usually happen until after the draft, Brown coming over from the Eagles when he did was a little unusual.

Is that schoen was out scouting with a lot of these scouts. He has had conversations and got a feel for how they think and work. He has built relationships all over and its benefitting him now as he adds to his staff.

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Schoen and his crew are Billy Beane and Peter Brand. Gettleman and his crew are the old scouts sitting around the table talking about how a guy can't hit because he has an ugly girlfriend.

In comment 15704174 George from PA said:

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Saying he just wanted to sleep/rest after draft..... He must have been interviewing for awhile...no?

He had the rest of the year for that :)

Colts have been good at drafting and I see value in bringing in people with some different perspectives. Welcome and best of luck.

In comment 15704328 Professor Falken said:

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Schoen and his crew are Billy Beane and Peter Brand. Gettleman and his crew are the old scouts sitting around the table talking about how a guy can't hit because he has an ugly girlfriend.

Peter Brand is actually Paul DePodesta. He didn't want his real name used. He runs the Browns these days, moved to football.

he's from Brooklyn. Obviously went to college on Long Island.

In comment 15704328 Professor Falken said:

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Schoen and his crew are Billy Beane and Peter Brand. Gettleman and his crew are the old scouts sitting around the table talking about how a guy can't hit because he has an ugly girlfriend.

Possibly, great movie.

In comment 15704174 George from PA said:

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Saying he just wanted to sleep/rest after draft..... He must have been interviewing for awhile...no?

Yes.... I thought Schoen was full of it when he said that. Then only a few days later heads started to roll and laughed about that quote at the time.

This is just further proof. As you put it well, he must have had a plan in place already when he was asked that question. I doubt he just hired these new folks sight unseen....

It appears he’s letting Schoen do what he was hired to do. Cleaning house and updating personnel from OUTSIDE the Giants’ comfort zone is 100% the way to go. Maybe we have turned the corner ans are starting the long slow climb to being relevant again. (Fingers crossed)

In comment 15704440 upnyg said:

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In comment 15704328 Professor Falken said: Quote: Schoen and his crew are Billy Beane and Peter Brand. Gettleman and his crew are the old scouts sitting around the table talking about how a guy can't hit because he has an ugly girlfriend. Possibly, great movie.

Much better book, as is always the case with Michael Lewis.

In comment 15704475 Dave on the UWS said:

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It appears he’s letting Schoen do what he was hired to do. Cleaning house and updating personnel from OUTSIDE the Giants’ comfort zone is 100% the way to go. Maybe we have turned the corner ans are starting the long slow climb to being relevant again. (Fingers crossed)

Alternatively, Tisch made it very clear to Mara after years of futility - and the disaster that was DG - that the new GM would need to have true autonomy to run the team.

remains TBD...

Director of College Scouting

In comment 15704548 RCPhoenix said:

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In comment 15704475 Dave on the UWS said: Quote: It appears he’s letting Schoen do what he was hired to do. Cleaning house and updating personnel from OUTSIDE the Giants’ comfort zone is 100% the way to go. Maybe we have turned the corner ans are starting the long slow climb to being relevant again. (Fingers crossed) Alternatively, Tisch made it very clear to Mara after years of futility - and the disaster that was DG - that the new GM would need to have true autonomy to run the team.

Hopefully it stays true and hopefully Tisch keeps that full court press on Mara

In comment 15704765 Eric from BBI said:

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remains TBD... Director of College Scouting

Assuming this is 'The Nephew'?

He isn't going anywhere.

The contract is very clear. Tisch can reason etc with Mara but he can’t force anything. I think Mara deserves credit for recognizing that the Giants needed a new way and the game is different as is the organization.

We’ll have to wait and see how good Schoen is and all those he has hired. November will tell how far we have moved.