over or under 7 wins

...just like every year~

I say 8 wins let’s goooooo

Lucky to win 5.

A lot of growing pains, I think especially on defense in the secondary. If McKinney misses any time, we're in a lot of trouble back there.

5-12

Floor is 2, ceiling is 7.

we moved out the NFL cellar by improving the OL.

the rooks.

In comment 15704566 Brown_Hornet said:

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...just like every year~

No way they go 10-6

10-7 maybe, but 10-6 doesnt seem possible....

just kidding

The organization needs to show me they know how to win.

until they're a winning team, they arent.

i'm going with the under for this year.

My guess is a max of 6 wins, likelier 3-4.

The talent to compete on a weekly basis isn’t there yet. This year is about identifying the players going forward and establishing the offensive and defensive schemes.

I really believe that this team will be considered overachieving at 5-6 wins.

We haven't even incurred our annual slew of summer injuries that wipe out half our team yet. let's wait until the carnage ends before talking about wins.

even without said carnage, this team is destined for a top 3 pick in next year's draft. so that's, what, four wins in 2022 maybe?

this whole off-season is and always has been about 2024. so just find other hobbies to occupy your Sunday afternoons this autumn.

7 games played by Kadarius Toney...

The OP points out a number of "winnable" games. We may win all of them, some of them or none of them. I'm sure the fans of each of those teams is looking at the Giants game as a winnable game for them.

As far as the GB, Indy, TN, & Ravens games. All of those teams are more talented than the Giants and would have to be considered clear favorites over us.

Hit that then we have the wrong coach and GM. Again.

Our division is soft. The schedule is soft and there is enough talent to compete with all but the top 4 or 5 in the nfc.

I know people want to rebuild for 3 years and unveil a juggernaut but the league is built for parity. Every team has flaws and holes. Giants roster is thin but overall talent is middle of the pack. If you can’t see that you it’s because we don’t scrutinize other rosters like we do our own. If these guys can’t get close to .500 then we will be coach shopping again.

5th coach and 3rd GM in the last 7 years. Hope they realize there are no training wheels.

In comment 15704644 dancing blue bear said:

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Hit that then we have the wrong coach and GM. Again. Our division is soft. The schedule is soft and there is enough talent to compete with all but the top 4 or 5 in the nfc. I know people want to rebuild for 3 years and unveil a juggernaut but the league is built for parity. Every team has flaws and holes. Giants roster is thin but overall talent is middle of the pack. If you can’t see that you it’s because we don’t scrutinize other rosters like we do our own. If these guys can’t get close to .500 then we will be coach shopping again. 5th coach and 3rd GM in the last 7 years. Hope they realize there are no training wheels.

Um, what? Have you seen this roster and watched this team? Better prepare for a big disappointment if you think that this new regime can turn chicken shit into a gourmet meal very quickly bud.

This team will not be good this year. Accept the reality of it and move on.

Embrace it.

Taylor was the starter this year?

Take it to the bank!

In comment 15704668 Ivan15 said:

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Taylor was the starter this year?

I meant to pick the OVER at 6.5 with Jones.

I view 2022 as a rebuilding year. With major questions at QB, new coaching staff, many low priced free agents on 1 year deals, it will take more than 1 season to become competitive.

under.

This is a season to clear the cap and be in position to draft a QB next year.

In comment 15704683 US1 Giants said:

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This is a season to clear the cap and be in position to draft a QB next year.

Not if we have a decent pass rush..Giving a so so QB
less time to find a open man,is the key.Really good QB's are a bigger challenge ofcourse.But we got a little better up front,so I look for some good things to happen..

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makes me think over. DJ and SB makes me think under. Since I know they will both be injured I will go with the over. Eight wins and nine losses .

is compared to other teams. We're going to suck this season. I think this will be rock bottom (the worm has to turn eventually...right?).

eh... hard to know what to expect. If jones doesnt elevate his game we will be under 7 games. i expect at least 5 teams to finish worse than us.

If jones picks his game up and we stay healthy, our schedule is pretty easy, we can def win over 7 games.

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Over.

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Top 5 pick in the draft again

That being said I really like what we've done so far. The draft picks, the shedding of players. Schoen was left with a terrible situation and seems to be getting through the worst of it ASAP. Wait til next next year

7 wins is the ceiling. 4 wins is the floor.

We have virtually nothing to base the new coaching staff or change over in personnel on. Let’s at least get into training camp before speculation begins.

I'll be shocked if we win 6. We're playing this season with one hand tie behind our back financially.

Week to week 17-0

This entire season is a punt to me.

In comment 15704590 cjac said:

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until they're a winning team, they arent. i'm going with the under for this year.

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Week to week 17-0

Perfectly said.

In comment 15704758 UberAlias said:

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We have virtually nothing to base the new coaching staff or change over in personnel on. Let’s at least get into training camp before speculation begins.

But we do know what this roster looks like and what the cap looks like. Anyone hoping or, unfortunately expecting, them to be better than they were last year or they year before that, or the year before THAT, is doing nothing but setting themselves up for disappointment.

Provided the team can stay relatively healthy over the course of the season, which is something they haven't been able to do for a while. They could also use a favorable bounce or two...or three.

Regardless, I really don't care about their win-loss record this year. For me, it's all about evaluating what they have and determining what they need to to go from laughing-stocks to contenders. It's about getting rid of "dead wood," refusing to depend on the undependable, and demanding excellence from #1 to #53. Anything less should be unacceptable.

In comment 15705018 Klaatu said:

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Provided the team can stay relatively healthy over the course of the season, which is something they haven't been able to do for a while. They could also use a favorable bounce or two...or three. Regardless, I really don't care about their win-loss record this year. For me, it's all about evaluating what they have and determining what they need to to go from laughing-stocks to contenders. It's about getting rid of "dead wood," refusing to depend on the undependable, and demanding excellence from #1 to #53. Anything less should be unacceptable.

I would bet the under, but I think this is all reasonable. As much as the overall talent on the roster gets criticized, there are *some* decent pieces here. Easy schedule plus a few breaks plus better health... they could be OK this year.

Basically, my bell curve of reasonable outcomes this year is 2-8 wins, with 5 being the peak of the curve. But I don't think this is a "first overall pick" roster. They were abysmal last year and four teams were somehow worse, and they've added two high draft picks and completely revamped the offensive line without losing much in the way of contributors (outside of Bradberry). The Giants should have an OK offensive line for the first time in over a decade. That will have effects all over the roster.

5-12 is my guess, though, so the under. The defense is paper thin and they're going to try to blitz with basically no secondary. Good luck.

In comment 15705071 RHPeel said:

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In comment 15705018 Klaatu said: Quote: Provided the team can stay relatively healthy over the course of the season, which is something they haven't been able to do for a while. They could also use a favorable bounce or two...or three. Regardless, I really don't care about their win-loss record this year. For me, it's all about evaluating what they have and determining what they need to to go from laughing-stocks to contenders. It's about getting rid of "dead wood," refusing to depend on the undependable, and demanding excellence from #1 to #53. Anything less should be unacceptable. I would bet the under, but I think this is all reasonable. As much as the overall talent on the roster gets criticized, there are *some* decent pieces here. Easy schedule plus a few breaks plus better health... they could be OK this year. Basically, my bell curve of reasonable outcomes this year is 2-8 wins, with 5 being the peak of the curve. But I don't think this is a "first overall pick" roster. They were abysmal last year and four teams were somehow worse, and they've added two high draft picks and completely revamped the offensive line without losing much in the way of contributors (outside of Bradberry). The Giants should have an OK offensive line for the first time in over a decade. That will have effects all over the roster. 5-12 is my guess, though, so the under. The defense is paper thin and they're going to try to blitz with basically no secondary. Good luck.

Their record this year really is meaningless to me. In my view, it's much more important for the Giants to find out who they should stick with and who they shouldn't; who's got a future with the team and who doesn't. That can't be done over the Summer. It's going to take a full season. Once they're identified, it's a safe bet that weaknesses will be addressed in 2023, in free agency and the draft.

8-9 wins assuming no major injuries.

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Without (injury or neck doesn’t allow) 2. Some will then (for the second year) understand how valuable he is.

if DJ stayed healthy and Toney didn't goldbrick.


If you're looking to bet, keep an eye on Toney in presason if he plays Daboll like a pigeon like he did Judge.

....Wentz to try some left handed throws as his marble bag empties, and schemes to make Hurts beat him from the pocket, 7 doesn't seem all that far away.

I'll go 8 and the over.

I'll take exactly 7 wins Alex.