If there's one sporting event in all of sports that I'd love to have full access to its the draft and it's not even close. Just to be a fly on the wall and watch it all unfold.
I’ve noticed Schoen is pretty open with the media when he made his rounds this week(similar grades on Neal/Ikey, why not take thibs at 5) and this is a great inside look
He repeatedly brings up that they had 6 players (which was reported). Still wonder what trade proposals looked like at 7, and 5 which is shown in the video him declining It.
If there's one sporting event in all of sports that I'd love to have full access to its the draft and it's not even close. Just to be a fly on the wall and watch it all unfold.
I cannot agree more. In fact, if I could work in that environment, that process of selecting players, moving around, being part of the whole show would be amazing.
On a separate note and not to pile on to someone (or a group of people) but, you truly do see a different level of professionalism with this group than with Gettleman and Judge. The Clown show part at the end of last year is starting to appear to have been for far longer. Schoen's control of the room, the process, the way he speaks and the way he presents what they are doing, want to do and why they are doing it is so far and above what we had become used to over the last 4 years.
Time will tell on where things go BUT, I actually feel good about things because of what I have witnessed and not what I was being sold two years ago.
One thing that made me feel good about our first round picks was seeing that Dallas had our guys ranked 1 and 2 on their board. Dallas has been as good as anyone in identifying top shelf talent; that's good validation there.
Watching the video - is there a unit of measurement to adequately capture the difference between listening to Schoen and Brown talk vs. Gettleman?
I gotta say, regardless of the picks, you see immediately how professional and tight Schoen runs things in that room compared to the fat fuck up in Cape Cod..
may be the best video the Giants have produced. I can't believe they showed those interviews.
I wonder who the guy was who fell out of the top 7 AFTER the interviews?
I am thinking Stingley, Walker, or Ickey. I just can’t decide who. From what the Giants were looking for in OL I think Neal would have still been the pick even if Ickey was still on the board. Schoen’s comment about Carolina taking Ickey appeared to be more of his toying with media.
he acknowledged they had Icky/Neal even at T (which is why they went edge #5).
there's no way it was Hutchinson or Sauce.
So it's either Stingley or Walker. I think I actually preferred Stingley to Walker but the way Walker shot up boards post-combine would make that pretty surprising.
Dont forget Stingley could have been part medical - which is the biggest takeaway at the combine.
how shitty we’ve been recently, i love watching these young guys come in and star gaze at the lombardis. The Giants still have a hell of a legacy. It’s gonna feel so good when this team finally gets back on the right track.
he acknowledged they had Icky/Neal even at T (which is why they went edge #5).
there's no way it was Hutchinson or Sauce.
So it's either Stingley or Walker. I think I actually preferred Stingley to Walker but the way Walker shot up boards post-combine would make that pretty surprising.
Dont forget Stingley could have been part medical - which is the biggest takeaway at the combine.
Did he really acknowledge or was it like his responses after repeat questions? I don’t think Ickey only wanting to play LT sat well with them.
he acknowledged they had Icky/Neal even at T (which is why they went edge #5).
there's no way it was Hutchinson or Sauce.
So it's either Stingley or Walker. I think I actually preferred Stingley to Walker but the way Walker shot up boards post-combine would make that pretty surprising.
Dont forget Stingley could have been part medical - which is the biggest takeaway at the combine.
Did he really acknowledge or was it like his responses after repeat questions? I don’t think Ickey only wanting to play LT sat well with them.
it was pretty clear - ill look up the transcript but they asked him why he picked Neal #7 and he answered plainly "because Icky was gone" and then went on to explain they had them side by side. I actually thought he kind of implied they may have picked Icky if he was there just since he didnt say "evan was our OT1".
Q. Joe, would you say even though the tackles were very close, would you say Neal was your No. 1 tackle?
JOE SCHOEN: They were very close, yeah. We had them side-by-side.
Q. So why did you pick him?
JOE SCHOEN: Because Ickey was gone at six.
Q. In terms of the other tackles --
JOE SCHOEN: We thought there was a drop off in pass rushers, and those two were still there, so it played itself out.
I read this as, they were side by side, so with one being gone, we picked the other....not that Icky was rated higher...
correct that's exactly how it reads.
but isn't it convention to say the guy you picked was your OT1? Isn't saying anything except "evan was our top tackle" an admission he may not have been?
they could have been side by side but if Carolina picked someone else they would have had to pick 1 of them and that answer doesn't make me think it was definitely going to be Neal.
Great looks behind the scenes. We're in good hands, and I'm psyched for Thibs and Neal. I'm glad we got Kayvon over Sauce; he is exactly what Big Blue needs. Neal is a bad man too.
Brandon Brown is incredible. He couldn't contain his excitement for the UDFA process. It's going to be a good era of Giants football.
I am thinking Stingley, Walker, or Ickey. I just can’t decide who. From what the Giants were looking for in OL I think Neal would have still been the pick even if Ickey was still on the board. Schoen’s comment about Carolina taking Ickey appeared to be more of his toying with media.
If it had been Ickey, they wouldn't've risked losing Neal to Carolina. So definitely not Ickey.
Q. Joe, would you say even though the tackles were very close, would you say Neal was your No. 1 tackle?
JOE SCHOEN: They were very close, yeah. We had them side-by-side.
Q. So why did you pick him?
JOE SCHOEN: Because Ickey was gone at six.
Q. In terms of the other tackles --
JOE SCHOEN: We thought there was a drop off in pass rushers, and those two were still there, so it played itself out.
I read this as, they were side by side, so with one being gone, we picked the other....not that Icky was rated higher...
correct that's exactly how it reads.
but isn't it convention to say the guy you picked was your OT1? Isn't saying anything except "evan was our top tackle" an admission he may not have been?
they could have been side by side but if Carolina picked someone else they would have had to pick 1 of them and that answer doesn't make me think it was definitely going to be Neal.
that's true, but once he said they were side by side, he had to go with the second answer.....im surprised he didn't say Neal was their OT1 too....its actually kind of refreshing.
But Neal is easier to plug into the right tackle spot as a rookie because he spent a year there whereas Ekwonu has spent all his time on the left side.
the extended Mara family is finally delegating personnel decisions to folks who are competent to make them. Both Schoen and Brandon Brown are impressive.
that's true, but once he said they were side by side, he had to go with the second answer.....im surprised he didn't say Neal was their OT1 too....its actually kind of refreshing.
agreed, i honestly don't care either way - i liked both of them, vegas liked both of them, the expert consensus liked both of them, it's refreshing to hear a guy who seems to answer honestly.
Hooray!
He repeatedly brings up that they had 6 players (which was reported). Still wonder what trade proposals looked like at 7, and 5 which is shown in the video him declining It.
How did the production team miss that 😂
Neal, man it's hard not to be excited about the guy. Don't want to jinx it but it's hard to see a guy with his mind, body, and attitude failing.
I cannot agree more. In fact, if I could work in that environment, that process of selecting players, moving around, being part of the whole show would be amazing.
On a separate note and not to pile on to someone (or a group of people) but, you truly do see a different level of professionalism with this group than with Gettleman and Judge. The Clown show part at the end of last year is starting to appear to have been for far longer. Schoen's control of the room, the process, the way he speaks and the way he presents what they are doing, want to do and why they are doing it is so far and above what we had become used to over the last 4 years.
Time will tell on where things go BUT, I actually feel good about things because of what I have witnessed and not what I was being sold two years ago.
Watching the video - is there a unit of measurement to adequately capture the difference between listening to Schoen and Brown talk vs. Gettleman?
I wonder who the guy was who fell out of the top 7 AFTER the interviews?
I wonder who the guy was who fell out of the top 7 AFTER the interviews?
I think it is Stingley.
I wonder who the guy was who fell out of the top 7 AFTER the interviews?
Jermaine Johnson supposedly fell due to poor interviews. Not saying he was the guy but we know the jets had him high on their board
I noticed that too.....I thought maybe it was an interview tactic or something.
Hooray!
Made my day and I already had a great day.
I wonder who the guy was who fell out of the top 7 AFTER the interviews?
I am thinking Stingley, Walker, or Ickey. I just can’t decide who. From what the Giants were looking for in OL I think Neal would have still been the pick even if Ickey was still on the board. Schoen’s comment about Carolina taking Ickey appeared to be more of his toying with media.
Seattle supposedly was looking to trade up for a DB. Maybe Jets trying to jump Atlanta?
there's no way it was Hutchinson or Sauce.
So it's either Stingley or Walker. I think I actually preferred Stingley to Walker but the way Walker shot up boards post-combine would make that pretty surprising.
Dont forget Stingley could have been part medical - which is the biggest takeaway at the combine.
there's no way it was Hutchinson or Sauce.
So it's either Stingley or Walker. I think I actually preferred Stingley to Walker but the way Walker shot up boards post-combine would make that pretty surprising.
Dont forget Stingley could have been part medical - which is the biggest takeaway at the combine.
Did he really acknowledge or was it like his responses after repeat questions? I don’t think Ickey only wanting to play LT sat well with them.
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he acknowledged they had Icky/Neal even at T (which is why they went edge #5).
there's no way it was Hutchinson or Sauce.
So it's either Stingley or Walker. I think I actually preferred Stingley to Walker but the way Walker shot up boards post-combine would make that pretty surprising.
Dont forget Stingley could have been part medical - which is the biggest takeaway at the combine.
Did he really acknowledge or was it like his responses after repeat questions? I don’t think Ickey only wanting to play LT sat well with them.
it was pretty clear - ill look up the transcript but they asked him why he picked Neal #7 and he answered plainly "because Icky was gone" and then went on to explain they had them side by side. I actually thought he kind of implied they may have picked Icky if he was there just since he didnt say "evan was our OT1".
JOE SCHOEN: They were very close, yeah. We had them side-by-side.
Q. So why did you pick him?
JOE SCHOEN: Because Ickey was gone at six.
Q. In terms of the other tackles --
JOE SCHOEN: We thought there was a drop off in pass rushers, and those two were still there, so it played itself out.
I dunno what the other prospects NYG interviewed had to say on their interview responses, but I’d be willing to bet none were better than KT and Neal.
KT with his illustration about the past. Neal unable to provide anything he doesn’t like about football. Just awesome stuff.
I think I’ll go stare at the depth chart some more with these two guys in place and dream about next season.
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Q. Joe, would you say even though the tackles were very close, would you say Neal was your No. 1 tackle?
JOE SCHOEN: They were very close, yeah. We had them side-by-side.
Q. So why did you pick him?
JOE SCHOEN: Because Ickey was gone at six.
Q. In terms of the other tackles --
JOE SCHOEN: We thought there was a drop off in pass rushers, and those two were still there, so it played itself out.
I read this as, they were side by side, so with one being gone, we picked the other....not that Icky was rated higher...
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Q. Joe, would you say even though the tackles were very close, would you say Neal was your No. 1 tackle?
JOE SCHOEN: They were very close, yeah. We had them side-by-side.
Q. So why did you pick him?
JOE SCHOEN: Because Ickey was gone at six.
Q. In terms of the other tackles --
JOE SCHOEN: We thought there was a drop off in pass rushers, and those two were still there, so it played itself out.
I read this as, they were side by side, so with one being gone, we picked the other....not that Icky was rated higher...
correct that's exactly how it reads.
but isn't it convention to say the guy you picked was your OT1? Isn't saying anything except "evan was our top tackle" an admission he may not have been?
they could have been side by side but if Carolina picked someone else they would have had to pick 1 of them and that answer doesn't make me think it was definitely going to be Neal.
Brandon Brown is incredible. He couldn't contain his excitement for the UDFA process. It's going to be a good era of Giants football.
The best part of that video was how quiet the Maras seemed to be...
BTW, it is me or does KT remind you of Lebron James with his look and his mannerisms?
I am thinking Stingley, Walker, or Ickey. I just can’t decide who. From what the Giants were looking for in OL I think Neal would have still been the pick even if Ickey was still on the board. Schoen’s comment about Carolina taking Ickey appeared to be more of his toying with media.
The best part of that video was how quiet the Maras seemed to be...
BTW, it is me or does KT remind you of Lebron James with his look and his mannerisms?
Couldn’t agree more on Brown. You can just tell he’s incredibly smart listening to him talk.
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Q. Joe, would you say even though the tackles were very close, would you say Neal was your No. 1 tackle?
JOE SCHOEN: They were very close, yeah. We had them side-by-side.
Q. So why did you pick him?
JOE SCHOEN: Because Ickey was gone at six.
Q. In terms of the other tackles --
JOE SCHOEN: We thought there was a drop off in pass rushers, and those two were still there, so it played itself out.
I read this as, they were side by side, so with one being gone, we picked the other....not that Icky was rated higher...
correct that's exactly how it reads.
but isn't it convention to say the guy you picked was your OT1? Isn't saying anything except "evan was our top tackle" an admission he may not have been?
they could have been side by side but if Carolina picked someone else they would have had to pick 1 of them and that answer doesn't make me think it was definitely going to be Neal.
that's true, but once he said they were side by side, he had to go with the second answer.....im surprised he didn't say Neal was their OT1 too....its actually kind of refreshing.
that's true, but once he said they were side by side, he had to go with the second answer.....im surprised he didn't say Neal was their OT1 too....its actually kind of refreshing.
agreed, i honestly don't care either way - i liked both of them, vegas liked both of them, the expert consensus liked both of them, it's refreshing to hear a guy who seems to answer honestly.
How did the production team miss that 😂