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Jeff Zrebiak speculates on Chuck Clark

Eric on Li : 5/10/2022 10:48 pm
Wink's kind of gotten shafted since he's talked at length about the importance of the secondary in his defense. If there's an area where the roster could use a reliable veteran that's it and Clark seems like the kind of ton setter with position versatility and smarts (wink's green dot in BAL) who'd be a really good addition if Baltimore ends up moving him. Only just turned 27 and is under contract at a very reasonable deal for the next couple years.

Certainly wouldn't be giving up any day 1 or 2 picks but Slayton + a 5th or something like that would be revenue neutral for both sides and Baltimore is very light on WR's.

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If it’s up to Ravens head coach John Harbaugh, veteran safety Chuck Clark isn’t going anywhere.

“To me, Chuck is a big part of this team, and I’m planning on Chuck being here,” Harbaugh said Saturday before the team’s rookie minicamp practice. “I’m not going to worry about all the other stuff. The other stuff is the other stuff. It’s part of pro football, I understand it.”

The “other stuff” that Harbaugh is seemingly referring to is the speculation about Clark’s future after the Ravens used a first-round pick on Notre Dame safety Kyle Hamilton a little more than a month after they signed Marcus Williams to a five-year, $70 million deal.


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It just doesn’t make a ton of sense for the Ravens to trade Clark, unless they are presented with a really good offer, like an early-round draft choice or a solid player who fills a need. Several teams, like the Philadelphia Eagles, New York Giants and New York Jets are said to be looking for safety help, but it’s unclear how they view Clark. The 27-year-old is the type of no-frills, steady player who is valued more by the team he’s on than anybody else.

But what if Clark forces the issue? The Ravens, in how they’ve handled the Hayden Hurst, Orlando Brown Jr. and Marquise Brown situations over the past few years, have made clear that they’ll work to accommodate players who want out. Clark hasn’t made any public declarations to that end unless you count a tweet last Friday night that said, “This can go one or two ways. It can go Up, it can go Down. Either way I’m Prepared!!” It’s easy to see, however, why Clark wouldn’t be pleased with developments this offseason.

He has two years left on a team-friendly deal that pays him a base salary of $2.75 million this year. If the Ravens had visions of extending his contract, this would have been the offseason to do it. Instead, they went out and made Williams the seventh highest-paid safety in football and then used the first of their two first-rounders on Hamilton.


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“I love Chuck Clark,” Harbaugh said. “I love the way he plays, and I’m very happy that he’s a Raven.”

For how long, though, will he remain a Raven? That suddenly feels like a fair question.

Ravens news, notes, opinions: Chuck Clark dilemma - ( New Window )
I don't see the Giants trading for anyone,  
Tom in NY : 5/10/2022 10:53 pm : link
never-ending a 27 year old box Safety.
They need to value every draft pick, and if they move Slayton it should be either to get additional pick(s), or a younger player.

i.e. "Let the kids play!"
Should read "...never mind..."  
Tom in NY : 5/10/2022 10:54 pm : link
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Seems he’s worth a move for.  
Joe Beckwith : 5/10/2022 11:02 pm : link
Need position, experienced, leadership, the contract.
Work his agent, throw a respectable offer to the Ravens.
Some stability in the secondary .
random video of wink talking about his defense and clark specifically  
Eric on Li : 5/10/2022 11:09 pm : link
called him his eric weddle, the magic johnson of his defense getting people lined up and setting them up to make plays. if he's on the market gotta think wink will be pushing for him.
https://www.baltimoreravens.com/video/wink-martindale-breaks-down-his-blitzing-success - ( New Window )
No  
Straw Hat : 5/10/2022 11:10 pm : link
Thanks
 
christian : 5/10/2022 11:24 pm : link
I wouldn’t expect any transactions until Ryan’s grievance gets settled.

If they lose another 1.8M in space, Slayton is probably a cap casualty just to tread water.
Shafted..LOL  
jvm52106 : 5/11/2022 6:49 am : link
You can't be serious. You do know by adding Pass Rush you are adding to pass defense. They drafted Flott- who I like a LOT!

We are not trading for anyone..
The Giants would be STUPID to trade picks for any player  
ZogZerg : 5/11/2022 6:50 am : link
this year.

This is Year 1 of rebuilding. You don't give up pics at this time.

No thanks.  
Klaatu : 5/11/2022 7:07 am : link
Wink will just have to suck it up and make do with what he has this year. If a vet CB or Safety shakes loose over the Summer and can be signed for the minimum, okay, but that's as far as I'd go. The Giants don't need to sacrifice any draft picks when it's pretty obvious they're beginning a multi-year rebuild. They'll need every pick they can get.
We are in a cap crunch  
Rudy5757 : 5/11/2022 9:19 am : link
We are shopping in the clearance section. There is no money for trades unless we unload a contract and we only have a few that wont accelerate the bonus.

Unless a guy wants to sign with the Giants for the vet minimum I dont see it happening. We still may have to redo LW just to have working capital for the season. If we have a guy get hurt or a bunch get hurt that money is going to go quick.
Slayton  
Toth029 : 5/11/2022 9:23 am : link
Is the only one who makes sense vis-à-vis contract wise.

Certainly don't see Schoen throwing a pick for him, obviously.

By drafting Belton, it helps depth but it depends how Wink also feels about the current S situation.

They could end up using Jarren Williams at S.
those saying no picks remember the market and his contract (clark's)  
Eric on Li : 5/11/2022 10:01 am : link
a) the draft just happened and like bradberry there was no trade - at best clark is bringing back a day 3 pick.

b) he has 2 very team friendly years. i don't think his value is far beyond Slayton's but the extra cheap year of control is what probably adds a pick into the mix.

im the last person who likes giving away picks but remember they are already likely to be +3 on day 3 picks next year from 2 comp picks and the BAL 7th they got back in the Bredeson deal.

also remember Schoen showed how easy it is to create 2 extra day 3 picks (#112 and #148 i think) from thin air by moving down 7 slots in round 2.

in a span of 20-30 minutes he literally created the kind of return we were hoping to get for Bradberry or Barkley over the last 2 months.

so again, day 1/2 picks are a total no fly zone but a day 3 pick and Slayton for a guy who would likely come in and get a C day 1, give Wink a versatile player who lines up everywhere and knows how to succeed in his system? All day for me. I think a 5th or 6th is probably the right value zone and i'd bet right now at least 1 of the 4 guys they picked in those rounds will not even make the 53 this year.
RE: those saying no picks remember the market and his contract (clark's)  
BleedBlue : 5/11/2022 10:46 am : link
In comment 15705115 Eric on Li said:
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a) the draft just happened and like bradberry there was no trade - at best clark is bringing back a day 3 pick.

b) he has 2 very team friendly years. i don't think his value is far beyond Slayton's but the extra cheap year of control is what probably adds a pick into the mix.

im the last person who likes giving away picks but remember they are already likely to be +3 on day 3 picks next year from 2 comp picks and the BAL 7th they got back in the Bredeson deal.

also remember Schoen showed how easy it is to create 2 extra day 3 picks (#112 and #148 i think) from thin air by moving down 7 slots in round 2.

in a span of 20-30 minutes he literally created the kind of return we were hoping to get for Bradberry or Barkley over the last 2 months.

so again, day 1/2 picks are a total no fly zone but a day 3 pick and Slayton for a guy who would likely come in and get a C day 1, give Wink a versatile player who lines up everywhere and knows how to succeed in his system? All day for me. I think a 5th or 6th is probably the right value zone and i'd bet right now at least 1 of the 4 guys they picked in those rounds will not even make the 53 this year.


i agree...slayton seems to be buried anyways on depth chart especially if toney and shep stay healthy.

Id offer slayton and a 6th or 7th to start. cap its an equal but we upgrade a position with lesser talent.
according to adam caplan the Ravens had interest in Reagor  
Eric on Li : 5/12/2022 11:08 am : link
who has some similarities to slayton. i'm not a huge slayton fan but Reagor only has 3 touchdowns in 2 years so hard to not think he's the better player. $ is similar, Reagor has 1 extra year on his contract.

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Philly Eagles Central @pheaglescentral
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The #Eagles talked to the #Ravens about a potential Chuck Clark trade during the draft, per @caplannfl on @InsideBirds.

Also, according to @caplannfl, the #Ravens had interest in #Eagles WR Jalen Reagor, but no offer was sent and nothing went past that.
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