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bwitz : 5/12/2022 2:03 pm
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Late Wednesday night, they demoted righty reliever Ron Marinaccio to Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre. Early Thursday, they promoted right-hander Luis Gil, who will start against the White Sox in the series opener at Guaranteed Rate Field.


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Unreal Inning  
GiantGrit : 5/12/2022 11:42 pm : link
La Russa is out to lunch and happy Donaldson got involved, really want him to get going.
RE: Green trying to make the game more competitive  
section125 : 5/12/2022 11:48 pm : link
In comment 15707128 Greg from LI said:
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Wish I knew what happened to him


He used to live high in the zone at 96-97. Last year it seemed he tried to go low in the zone. The double just hit was not a bad pitch, but it was down. Easier to hit the low FB. And his off speed/curve is not reliable.
OMG - Gallo  
section125 : 5/12/2022 11:51 pm : link
inside outed a pitch to a single...
boy Torres  
RasputinPrime : 5/12/2022 11:55 pm : link
really swinging a big stick. Nice poke to LF.
bases juiced  
RasputinPrime : 5/12/2022 11:57 pm : link
for Judge.
If Judge wants MVP  
Mike from SI : 5/12/2022 11:57 pm : link
now is the time for some garbage-time stats.
15-7  
RasputinPrime : 5/12/2022 11:59 pm : link
Judge just missed tagging that one.

Cmon Rizz
Banks' ERA took a bit of a hit tonight  
Greg from LI : 5/13/2022 12:01 am : link
From 1.84 to 3.38 in an inning and a third
I bought some Vienna Beef hotdogs  
bwitz : 5/13/2022 12:05 am : link
Work with a bunch of people from Chicago who sear they are the best. I don’t get it.
*swear  
bwitz : 5/13/2022 12:06 am : link
Biggest thing I took from this game wasn’t  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/13/2022 12:07 am : link
the mile worth of home runs or Aaron Judge becoming the living embodiment of the Fat Joe quote.

It’s that Lucas Luetge somehow has never tried to catch a pop up in his life.
RE: I bought some Vienna Beef hotdogs  
section125 : 5/13/2022 12:10 am : link
In comment 15707144 bwitz said:
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Work with a bunch of people from Chicago who sear they are the best. I don’t get it.


Cocktail hot dogs! Dog food for people.
Really happy and pleasntly surprised how this team is playing this  
Giantfan21 : 5/13/2022 12:19 am : link
season but i am greedy. I want to win a WS this season. There might not be a better opportunity for a long time.

With that being said, Cashman needs to upgrade from Hicks in CF. Acquiring an OF needs to be the number 1 priority near the trade deadline .

Also, i really hope Loaisiga figures it out . Yankees need him in the pen
RE: Really happy and pleasntly surprised how this team is playing this  
Mike from SI : 5/13/2022 12:23 am : link
In comment 15707151 Giantfan21 said:
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season but i am greedy. I want to win a WS this season. There might not be a better opportunity for a long time.

With that being said, Cashman needs to upgrade from Hicks in CF. Acquiring an OF needs to be the number 1 priority near the trade deadline .

Also, i really hope Loaisiga figures it out . Yankees need him in the pen


We also need a catcher, please.
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RasputinPrime : 5/13/2022 12:25 am : link
In comment 15707152 Mike from SI said:
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season but i am greedy. I want to win a WS this season. There might not be a better opportunity for a long time.

With that being said, Cashman needs to upgrade from Hicks in CF. Acquiring an OF needs to be the number 1 priority near the trade deadline .

Also, i really hope Loaisiga figures it out . Yankees need him in the pen



We also need a catcher, please.


Trade for Contreras and put the pedal to the floor on this season.
RE: RE: Really happy and pleasntly surprised how this team is playing this  
Giantfan21 : 5/13/2022 12:40 am : link
In comment 15707152 Mike from SI said:
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season but i am greedy. I want to win a WS this season. There might not be a better opportunity for a long time.

With that being said, Cashman needs to upgrade from Hicks in CF. Acquiring an OF needs to be the number 1 priority near the trade deadline .

Also, i really hope Loaisiga figures it out . Yankees need him in the pen



We also need a catcher, please.


Yeah and Contreras is having a great season and will probably be a prime candidate but i do think they can get by with what they have at Catcher if the rest of the lineup is producing because of how valuable they are defensively.

With Hicks though he is a shell of what he used to be and he was never very good to begin with. He goes up there hunting walks but his numbers with Risp are atrocious , he has 1 XBH this season so he has no power anymore and what bothers me the most is his effort on defense is brutal. His arm is shot but it's his jogging to balls in the OF that annoys the fuck out of me. Thats why even though Gallo has been bad also i dont mind him as much because he gives 100% effort
From the "That's Baseball, Suzyn" department..  
GruningsOnTheHill : 5/13/2022 1:39 am : link
-- Loaisiga gets the win after coming in to pitch 1 inning where he gave up a walk and a HR;

-- Chicago's starting pitcher strikes out ELEVEN through just 4 innings...while giving up 6 earnies;

-- With two outs and the bases empty in the top of the 8th and the score tied, the Yankees proceed to score 7 runs before the 3rd out is recorded.
Little late to last night’s party but…..  
Eman11 : 5/13/2022 7:21 am : link
Gotta say I’m starting to get a “we play today, we win today” vibe from this team.

Great pitching for the most part, excellent D, clutch hitting, big bashes, much better base running, and all around just seems like a much better and put together team than in the past couple of years.

Whatever it takes they’re finding ways to win, and can do it in several different ways. Still a lot of K’s for my liking but that really seems to be throughout baseball so still getting used to that but as long as they keep winning, it makes that a bit easier.
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arcarsenal : 5/13/2022 8:06 am : link
This is the best team in baseball. The vibe has totally changed from '21.

Gil has plus stuff, his command is just really weak. There's obviously a stud SP there if they can get him to harness it.

Aaron Judge is going to be in the MVP convo (Mike Trout, though.. .726 SLG lol)

Cannot go into October with both Hicks/Gallo. There are several players who will be available who can be a major upgrade.

The C situation is tricky. Higgy is out of options, but Rortvedt is just about ready. I've said I'd simply DFA Higgy. I don't see the Yankees making a move for Contreras. He's crushing it offensively, but it's clear Cashman has opted to prioritize framing and defense and it's hard to argue with the results so far.

The Yankees are the only team in the ALE with a positive run diff (+60) (!!) - LAD is the only team IN MLB with a better split (+76)

If the ChiSox couldn't take a Gil/Cease matchup that should have heavily favored them, they're gonna have a hell of a time with Cole tonight.

Keep on rolling.
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Mike from SI : 5/13/2022 8:14 am : link
In comment 15707250 arcarsenal said:
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This is the best team in baseball. The vibe has totally changed from '21.

Gil has plus stuff, his command is just really weak. There's obviously a stud SP there if they can get him to harness it.

Aaron Judge is going to be in the MVP convo (Mike Trout, though.. .726 SLG lol)

Cannot go into October with both Hicks/Gallo. There are several players who will be available who can be a major upgrade.

The C situation is tricky. Higgy is out of options, but Rortvedt is just about ready. I've said I'd simply DFA Higgy. I don't see the Yankees making a move for Contreras. He's crushing it offensively, but it's clear Cashman has opted to prioritize framing and defense and it's hard to argue with the results so far.

The Yankees are the only team in the ALE with a positive run diff (+60) (!!) - LAD is the only team IN MLB with a better split (+76)

If the ChiSox couldn't take a Gil/Cease matchup that should have heavily favored them, they're gonna have a hell of a time with Cole tonight.

Keep on rolling.


I agree with you (and Eman) that the vibe is different in a good way.

With Gil, worst case scenario is he turns into a stud reliever a la Loaisiga (from last year).

That Mike Trout guy seems to be pretty good at baseball, I could see him turning into a real player.

Agreed on Hicks/Gallo.

For catchers, one would hope Cash could find a non-Contreras option with a glove who could hit a little. I'm fine DFAing Higgy.

I actually noticed that run differential thing the other day. But how are the Rays only 4.5 back!? They're 7-3 in their last 10. They are the horror movie villain who just won't die. I have McClanahan as a keeper in fantasy, and trust me, dude has whipe out stuff, although he's susceptible to having lapses and giving up hits here and there.

I like our chances tonight but you never know, "that's baseball Suzyn."
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arcarsenal : 5/13/2022 8:21 am : link
Lol, I agree about TB. It's funny, for the Toronto hype train stuff we endured all winter/early spring and them being prematurely crowned as a juggernaut, I suspect it's going to again be the Rays who challenge us for the division.

They really just don't go away. I've learned to never ever write them off.

My hope is that the tide is going to turn H2H this year. I believe we were 12-22 against them in '20/'21 combined. That changes this year.

The O's actually just took a series from the Cardinals. Boston is now 2.5 behind them.
RE: RE: RE: Really happy and pleasntly surprised how this team is playing this  
section125 : 5/13/2022 8:23 am : link
In comment 15707153 RasputinPrime said:
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In comment 15707151 Giantfan21 said:


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season but i am greedy. I want to win a WS this season. There might not be a better opportunity for a long time.

With that being said, Cashman needs to upgrade from Hicks in CF. Acquiring an OF needs to be the number 1 priority near the trade deadline .

Also, i really hope Loaisiga figures it out . Yankees need him in the pen



We also need a catcher, please.



Trade for Contreras and put the pedal to the floor on this season.


If Torres is back to Torres, and Josh Donaldson comes close to his normal numbers, they can survive with the catchers they have. I like what Higgy and Noah are doing behind the plate - it may have to do with how well the pitchers are doing.
Tapping the brakes on Gleyber, but he seems more comfortable now that he is back at 2nd. He still tries to pull, but he did that even in 2018 and 19 early in the count - then with two strikes he scaled back for solid contact. He seems to be back there again.
What they are getting out of Hicks, seems counterproductive. They could probably put Florial in there and do better. No, they would not get the walks, but they would get more power, it seems as much contact, and a better CF.
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JPinstripes : 5/13/2022 8:30 am : link
In comment 15707250 arcarsenal said:
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This is the best team in baseball. The vibe has totally changed from '21.

Gil has plus stuff, his command is just really weak. There's obviously a stud SP there if they can get him to harness it.

Aaron Judge is going to be in the MVP convo (Mike Trout, though.. .726 SLG lol)

Cannot go into October with both Hicks/Gallo. There are several players who will be available who can be a major upgrade.

The C situation is tricky. Higgy is out of options, but Rortvedt is just about ready. I've said I'd simply DFA Higgy. I don't see the Yankees making a move for Contreras. He's crushing it offensively, but it's clear Cashman has opted to prioritize framing and defense and it's hard to argue with the results so far.

The Yankees are the only team in the ALE with a positive run diff (+60) (!!) - LAD is the only team IN MLB with a better split (+76)

If the ChiSox couldn't take a Gil/Cease matchup that should have heavily favored them, they're gonna have a hell of a time with Cole tonight.

Keep on rolling.


Gil needs to stay at AAA for the year and learn to command his pitches.

Schmidt and Sears should be next man up options as starters with an eye on Waldichuck for mid season.

DFA Hicks and Gallo.

Trevino is very good defensively at C and the few games I went to this week, he gets a solid barrel on the ball for contact.
Re Gleyber  
Mike from SI : 5/13/2022 8:35 am : link
I still don't know what the "real" baseline Gleyber is. As a young player, it's probably still in flux. He does have a flair for the dramatic and rises to the occasion, so I'm realistically hoping he's a 25 HR, .800-.825 OPS guy as a baseline. I think 2019 is probably an outlier, although obviously it would be great if he could get back there.
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arcarsenal : 5/13/2022 8:36 am : link
Yep, Schmidt was optioned on May 1, IIRC, and the reason he wasn't used yesterday in place of Gil is because we have to wait 15 days before we can recall him.

So, what I think they'll do is swap Gil for Sears today as a 2-day bridge, and then they'll get Clarke back up here once he's eligible.

In fact, I wouldn't be totally opposed to just having Sears stay up a bit, and then having Loaisiga be the corresponding move for Schmidt.

Lo is really struggling right now, I think they need to get him right. The devastating sinkers we saw last year aren't there this year. He just looks like he's aiming the ball too much and it's not coming naturally.
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Mike from SI : 5/13/2022 8:38 am : link
In comment 15707269 JPinstripes said:
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This is the best team in baseball. The vibe has totally changed from '21.

Gil has plus stuff, his command is just really weak. There's obviously a stud SP there if they can get him to harness it.

Aaron Judge is going to be in the MVP convo (Mike Trout, though.. .726 SLG lol)

Cannot go into October with both Hicks/Gallo. There are several players who will be available who can be a major upgrade.

The C situation is tricky. Higgy is out of options, but Rortvedt is just about ready. I've said I'd simply DFA Higgy. I don't see the Yankees making a move for Contreras. He's crushing it offensively, but it's clear Cashman has opted to prioritize framing and defense and it's hard to argue with the results so far.

The Yankees are the only team in the ALE with a positive run diff (+60) (!!) - LAD is the only team IN MLB with a better split (+76)

If the ChiSox couldn't take a Gil/Cease matchup that should have heavily favored them, they're gonna have a hell of a time with Cole tonight.

Keep on rolling.



Gil needs to stay at AAA for the year and learn to command his pitches.

Schmidt and Sears should be next man up options as starters with an eye on Waldichuck for mid season.

DFA Hicks and Gallo.

Trevino is very good defensively at C and the few games I went to this week, he gets a solid barrel on the ball for contact.


You want to DFA Hicks AND Gallo? That would mean Judge and Stanton have to play OF every day, and our 3 OF is who? Marwin? Florial? DJLM with Torres at 2b and Donaldson at 3b every day?

I get the frustration but DFAing either of them right now doesn't make sense, let alone both.
More on Gallo  
JPinstripes : 5/13/2022 8:39 am : link
I sat in the LF bleachers for Monday's and Wednesday's games and he is just the most aloof player I have seen in a while... His glove is often off his hand while the pitcher is throwing, he constantly stretches and twitches every limb of his body while really not looking at the game action.

Can't stand this guy. Oh yeah and he can't make contact with the bat... Cash fail, it happens move on.
Mike  
JPinstripes : 5/13/2022 8:42 am : link
they both really suck for various reasons... I want to ultimately see both DFA'd.
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JPinstripes : 5/13/2022 8:51 am : link
In comment 15707274 arcarsenal said:
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Yep, Schmidt was optioned on May 1, IIRC, and the reason he wasn't used yesterday in place of Gil is because we have to wait 15 days before we can recall him.

So, what I think they'll do is swap Gil for Sears today as a 2-day bridge, and then they'll get Clarke back up here once he's eligible.

In fact, I wouldn't be totally opposed to just having Sears stay up a bit, and then having Loaisiga be the corresponding move for Schmidt.

Lo is really struggling right now, I think they need to get him right. The devastating sinkers we saw last year aren't there this year. He just looks like he's aiming the ball too much and it's not coming naturally.


Agree, but don't see Boonie sending down Lasagna...
RE: Mike  
Greg from LI : 5/13/2022 9:08 am : link
In comment 15707289 JPinstripes said:
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they both really suck for various reasons... I want to ultimately see both DFA'd.


That's swell and all, but they actually do have to have another outfielder or two in that case.
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arcarsenal : 5/13/2022 9:14 am : link
In comment 15707299 JPinstripes said:
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Yep, Schmidt was optioned on May 1, IIRC, and the reason he wasn't used yesterday in place of Gil is because we have to wait 15 days before we can recall him.

So, what I think they'll do is swap Gil for Sears today as a 2-day bridge, and then they'll get Clarke back up here once he's eligible.

In fact, I wouldn't be totally opposed to just having Sears stay up a bit, and then having Loaisiga be the corresponding move for Schmidt.

Lo is really struggling right now, I think they need to get him right. The devastating sinkers we saw last year aren't there this year. He just looks like he's aiming the ball too much and it's not coming naturally.



Agree, but don't see Boonie sending down Lasagna...


You never know. They sent Green down around this same time of the year in 2019 when he was getting rocked. He made adjustments and from July forward, he was really good.

Something is just amiss with Lo, I don't know if it's mechanical or what it is, but they've got to get him back to what he was in '21.
I'll take  
JPinstripes : 5/13/2022 9:19 am : link
the grit of Gardner over these two bums any day.
this team is a lot of fun to watch  
UConn4523 : 5/13/2022 9:26 am : link
a throw back to 3/4 years ago just playing sound baseball. Really really hope we get a full season of Judge/Stanton.
Gardner would be no more productive than either of them  
Greg from LI : 5/13/2022 9:31 am : link
plus he's 38 years old and couldn't play anything close to every day. So try again.

I have no doubt that they will trade for an outfielder when someone worth trading for becomes available.
Well that's not saying much  
JPinstripes : 5/13/2022 9:51 am : link
for the 2 bums playing every day now. Gardner was still a plus fielder and a strong clubhouse guy. Obviously, Cash whiffed on the production expectations of Gallo and Hicks - they both suck bad.
I think they'd be wise to  
bigbluehoya : 5/13/2022 10:03 am : link
find a resolution to the Gallo situation sooner than later. Easy to roll our eyes at him when the team is on a historical heater in spite of his play. But if this team were playing closer to .500 ball, which they will for some protracted stretches at some point, it's malfeasance to trot him out there every day. He is 100% lost, and his skillset isn't one that is given to self-correct.

Benintendi would be an absolutely dream fit for this team right now.

on a lesser scale -- David Peralta, Tony Kemp, Tyler Naquin -- these are all guys who shouldn't be expensive to acquire that would easily out-perform what they are getting from Gallo.

I would say Tommy Pham if he wasn't a clubhouse cancer / psycho.

(I focused strictly on teams that should be willing to deal given their standings + trajectory)
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arcarsenal : 5/13/2022 10:18 am : link
A few of other potential trade targets/ideas...

Brian Anderson
Ian Happ
Adam Frazier
Benintendi  
JPinstripes : 5/13/2022 10:20 am : link
would be a great fit on this team in place of Gallo.
RE: More on Gallo  
Stu11 : 5/13/2022 10:22 am : link
In comment 15707283 JPinstripes said:
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I sat in the LF bleachers for Monday's and Wednesday's games and he is just the most aloof player I have seen in a while... His glove is often off his hand while the pitcher is throwing, he constantly stretches and twitches every limb of his body while really not looking at the game action.

Can't stand this guy. Oh yeah and he can't make contact with the bat... Cash fail, it happens move on.

He has Terrets Syndrome so that's what all the nervous twitching is all about. He and Hicks are not getting dfa'd. I don't get the extreme hate for Gallo in here. We're all really disappointed with how he's done here and he'll be gone soon enough either during the season or free agency at the end of the year. However the guy plays hard and obviously cares. They'll probably be hunting around the trade market for an OF. Honestly Hicks could be a solid 4th OF.
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bigbluehoya : 5/13/2022 10:23 am : link
In comment 15707425 arcarsenal said:
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A few of other potential trade targets/ideas...

Brian Anderson
Ian Happ
Adam Frazier


Agree on Happ and Frazier as well -- I left those two off because I think they'd be a bit more expensive than the JAGs I listed.

I wouldn't want Anderson -- I think it would be important to focus on a LH bat.

In the short term I wouldn't hate to see them play Marwin out there as the regular LF.

Will be interesting to see how this shakes out vis-a-vis Gleyber. He looks really locked in right now and the batted ball data supports it.

If they can get themselves comfortable increasing the percentage of games with Judge in CF and Giancarlo in RF to get Gleyber more at bats...that's probably the most expedient solution in the short term.
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arcarsenal : 5/13/2022 10:33 am : link
This will probably surprise people, but since April 22 when Gallo was rock-bottom, ice-cold, these are his numbers..

38 AB, .263/.364/.526, .890 OPS, 144 wRC+

Not only has he not been awful, he's actually not been bad at all.

Hicks has been a bigger problem because he's literally doing nothing besides walking. His RISP numbers are horrendous, he has zero pop in his bat, his OF arm is cooked and there's just nothing to point to besides him getting on base at a solid clip.

Re: Anderson, I agree he's pretty far down the list in terms of players I'd prioritize. But, I do think a LH bat is a little less urgent than it was in the past.
The Yankees are playing fantastic baseball for the most part  
arniefez : 5/13/2022 11:04 am : link
They can live with an automatic out at catcher for elite defense IMO. They can not live without a real MLB SS. Gallo is frustrating to watch but he plays a very good LF and he can throw. I doubt he goes anywhere until next year. Hopefully he runs into a hot streak or two before the season ends.

Hicks is a huge problem. Hal is not Steve Cohen I don't believe he's going to eat 30 million in salary. Hicks is due 10M a year for 23, 24 & 25. He can't hit, he can't throw, he jogs after balls in the OF now, something that started a few years ago. He also has over 8 years MLB service time so not to long from now he's going to be a 10 & 5 player. He has less than 0 trade value. I don't think another team would take him if even if the Yankees paid half his money and attached a b/c prospect to him.
RE: The Yankees are playing fantastic baseball for the most part  
rich in DC : 5/13/2022 12:06 pm : link
In comment 15707495 arniefez said:
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They can live with an automatic out at catcher for elite defense IMO. They can not live without a real MLB SS. Gallo is frustrating to watch but he plays a very good LF and he can throw. I doubt he goes anywhere until next year. Hopefully he runs into a hot streak or two before the season ends.

Hicks is a huge problem. Hal is not Steve Cohen I don't believe he's going to eat 30 million in salary. Hicks is due 10M a year for 23, 24 & 25. He can't hit, he can't throw, he jogs after balls in the OF now, something that started a few years ago. He also has over 8 years MLB service time so not to long from now he's going to be a 10 & 5 player. He has less than 0 trade value. I don't think another team would take him if even if the Yankees paid half his money and attached a b/c prospect to him.


I don’t have any heartburn with the Yanks catching situation. For those who have forgotten, the Yanks won a World Series in 1996 and made the playoffs in 1997 with Gerardo as the full time C- and he wasn’t even a league average hitter. He also split time with Posada at C for the 1998 and 1999 World Series winners.

IMO, it isn’t necessary to have a above average bat at every position as much as it is critical to play good defense and have a C your pitchers feel comfortable throwing to and using ALL of their pitches. That was an issue with Sanchez.

The other lesson forgotten by many fans (but apparently not the yanks front office) from the late 1990’s dynasty was working over the opposition’s pitching staff. By that I don’t means scoring 8 runs a game or something like that- instead, they worked deep into pitch counts, got the SP out early, then got the better bullpen arms to throw a LOT of pitches- reducing their availability later in the series as well as forcing the opposition to use their back end of the bullpen pitchers- where the Yanks usually unloaded on them.

That’s where Gallo and Hicks actually help this team. Hicks is actually averaging over 4.7 pitches per plate appearance. It may not result in a positive outcome for him personally in most ABs, but its the equivalent of death by a 1000 cuts for the pitchers. In spite of his low BA, he does carry a .364 OBP- which means he’s actually getting on base more than 1/3 of the time. Hicks- even in his best seasons- could not and cannot carry a club. His role is to work pitchers and try to get on base so the better hitters can get him in.

Gallo is more of a 3 outcomes guy. He also sees over 4 pitches per plate appearance. Yes, he will always strike out a lot, hit the occasional HR and take his walks. His defense is pretty good as well.

Both Hicks and Gallo for the current iteration of the Yanks. I believe it is a near certainty that Gallo will leave in FA this winter, but for now he’s fine. The only issue I see is if the Yanks can get a CF or LF who is a clear upgrade on either one. No one like that is available in May or June. If there is in July, at least one will have to be moved because there are too many OFs now.
Sorry typo above  
rich in DC : 5/13/2022 12:07 pm : link
That should have been Girardi at C- damn autocorrect
totally agree Rich  
Stu11 : 5/13/2022 12:38 pm : link
I'm more than fine with the catching situation. The added offense you might get from another catcher could be more than offset by the downgrade in how they handle the pitchers, call a game, block pitches and control any running game. I agree that this team early on has shown the type of characteristics the 90's teams did. I mentioned it on the game thread last week that the way we handled the game Manoah pitched in Toronto was very reminiscent of how we dealt with classic Pedro Martinez. We weren't going to hit him hard, but drive the pitch count up match him with our starter, make it a battle of the pens and outpitch them. When you start winning games Gil vs. Cease by outslugging them it definitely gets you excited.
Respectfully  
Mike from SI : 5/13/2022 1:58 pm : link
I think you guys are describing a false choice. There are plenty of good defensive catchers who are not complete zeroes, or negatives, at the plate. It's not an either/or scenario. We can find a catcher who does both.

Also, Posada was the main catcher on the 98-99 Yankees. He appeared in 111 games in 98 and 112 in 99. (And then 151 in 2000.) The idea that Girardi was responsible for those great teams seems overblown to me. If anything, part of the reason those teams were great is because they had tremendous offensive production at the primarily defensive positions of CF, SS, and C.

Trevino is such a fantastic defensive catcher I can live with his awful hitting. But I don't think Higgy is worth it.
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arcarsenal : 5/13/2022 2:51 pm : link
Re: Loaisiga... his spin rates on each of his pitches are right where they were last year, so I think that's actually a good thing. It means he wasn't a sticky stuff merchant/benefactor and that this is a location/control issue.

I wonder if he's either tipping or has a hitch somewhere in his delivery but it does appear this can and should be fixable.

With the catchers, I am totally fine not going outside the org for help, but I do think Rortvedt should get a shot and really the only way to do that is to DFA Higgy.

With Rortvedt, you're going to get a plus framer just like we have with Trevi and will sacrifice nothing defensively (probably would be an improvement, honestly) and a guy who at least has a little more upside as a hitter.

I'd be able to live with Hicks if he could provide a little pop or wasn't an automatic out with RISP.

A .253 SLG and .038 ISO are ghastly. Those are just unacceptable numbers from an everyday (or close) OF. These are both bottom 10 figures in all of baseball among qualified players.

Gallo's past 2 weeks have been much more encouraging.
God bless your optimism, arc, re: Catcher  
wigs in nyc : 5/13/2022 6:56 pm : link
I don’t see much evidence in Rortvedt’s numbers to hope for much more offensively than what we are already getting. The organization has been so committed to Higgy for so long (he’s been in the organization longer than any other player) and I just don’t see them letting Higgy go for anything less than a clear upgrade. I think Trevino was the Rortvedt replacement when the injury took longer than expected, and now Rortvedt can bide his time in AAA until an injury crops up.
RE: Benintendi  
section125 : 5/13/2022 7:14 pm : link
In comment 15707429 JPinstripes said:
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would be a great fit on this team in place of Gallo.


Fuck Benintendi.
RE: Respectfully  
rich in DC : 5/13/2022 7:46 pm : link
In comment 15707705 Mike from SI said:
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I think you guys are describing a false choice. There are plenty of good defensive catchers who are not complete zeroes, or negatives, at the plate. It's not an either/or scenario. We can find a catcher who does both.

Also, Posada was the main catcher on the 98-99 Yankees. He appeared in 111 games in 98 and 112 in 99. (And then 151 in 2000.) The idea that Girardi was responsible for those great teams seems overblown to me. If anything, part of the reason those teams were great is because they had tremendous offensive production at the primarily defensive positions of CF, SS, and C.

Trevino is such a fantastic defensive catcher I can live with his awful hitting. But I don't think Higgy is worth it.


I disagree- as I said above, Girardi was the primary C for 1996 and 1997- and shared the C gig in 1998 and 1999. So, yes, he was a big part of those teams- and like Trevino, contributed next to nothing offensively.

I also disagree that it was offensive overload at positions that are traditionally weak that carried the team. Yes, Bernie and Jeter were superstars. Tino was above average at 1B and O'Neill was good with one great season- but on those teams, 2B, LF and 3B tended to be average at best. DH was also a rotating cast of thousands of washed up players who gave bits and pieces of contributions.

The SP and bullpen carried those teams while the offense simply wore down the other team. Anyone who denies that wasn't really paying attention to what was done and why they did it.

It was when the Yanks bought into the star power idea (bringing on Giambi and the like) that they fell apart and lost the team concept that they had been playing.
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