Our coaching staff was so good and we had a great D and the champion spirit. I wouldn't bet against it.
I remember Parcells talking about this game and how he said there were 5 HOF's on the field. I wonder who he thought they were. LT is the one definite. For the Niner's Rice, Montana, and Lott. Number 5 could be several options but maybe Haley.
Then you had Bavaro, Banks (who was incredible that year)and a bunch of other really good players.
Just a incredible effort by our team and staff on the road.
HOF Steve Young was the backup and had to come in because Marshall obliterated Montana.
Yup. Pat Summerall. Something like, "Word from the sideline is everything hurts."
gained something with Hoss as qb, we gained something else with Simms. All in all, I think Simms was the better qb, so I think we still would have won with him.
Hostetler was our Nick Foles during that playoff run
Because if not, I don't get why you would like Hostetler's chances better than Simms's chances. Was Hostetler's mobility the only thing that separated him from Simms? Because if you believe that than I guess that means you think Hostetler is the better QB and that should be your argument, not his mobility. And if you don't believe that, then it should occur to you that the only reason his mobility made such a difference is because he wasn't as good as Phil at making throws from the pocket. It wasn't like the Giants had a shitty OL or no running game.
p.s.--Does anybody remember what Parcells said about Hostetler at the time? "I don't want to be known as a guy who coaches broken plays" or something like that.
with his feet...plays that Simms couldn't have accomplished. Simms was the better passer but at least Hoss wasn't being careless in that facet and played to how the coaches wanted him to.
Maybe Simms gets it done too but, as noted above, that Giant offense was fading a bit as the season wore on and too predictable. Hoss was an interesting change of pace that kept the offense from dying on the vine as they navigated thru the playoffs.
Love the difference of opinions. It feels like it is pretty damn close to 50-50 with what people think. I'm in the camp that we probably don't win it all if Simms stays healthy just because Hoss' running game added a much needed component to our offense. But as others said, who knows?
Offense had grown stale and down the stretch he had huge trouble beating the blitz or reacting to pressure. Hoss's mobility (and mistake-free performances) carried the day.
Love the difference of opinions. It feels like it is pretty damn close to 50-50 with what people think. I'm in the camp that we probably don't win it all if Simms stays healthy just because Hoss' running game added a much needed component to our offense.
And so that's the only difference between Hoss and Simms? Hoss was more mobile, but other than that, they were the same QB according to you?
Love the difference of opinions. It feels like it is pretty damn close to 50-50 with what people think.
Here I was thinking there wasn't a single Giants fan that would say Hostetler was better than Simms and it turns out they are split 50-50 on the question. Amazing! Awhile back there was a question about Simms vs Eli, but I guess we should also ask who Giants fan prefer, Hostetler or Eli. I wonder if as many fans pick Hostetler over Eli as picked Simms over Eli. I was one of those who preferred Simms to Eli, but I wouldn't even thinking of picking Hoss over Eli. But that's just me. And it's nothing against Hoss, he wasn't a bad QB, I just don't see him as being anywhere close to Simms or Eli.
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Our coaching staff was so good and we had a great D and the champion spirit. I wouldn't bet against it.
I remember Parcells talking about this game and how he said there were 5 HOF's on the field. I wonder who he thought they were. LT is the one definite. For the Niner's Rice, Montana, and Lott. Number 5 could be several options but maybe Haley.
Then you had Bavaro, Banks (who was incredible that year)and a bunch of other really good players.
Just a incredible effort by our team and staff on the road.
HOF Steve Young was the backup and had to come in because Marshall obliterated Montana.
Yup. Pat Summerall. Something like, "Word from the sideline is everything hurts."
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If he was the QB they would have scored more than 2 TDs.
this. Simms was MUCH better passer and QB than Hostetler
He was, but like others said, the play extending from Hostetler was key. That was the difference in the game outside of the fake punt and fumble.
But just the vibe of the game, it doesn't seem like the Giants would be inept with Simms.
And whomever on here keeps claiming the Niners were 8 point favorites makes me laugh.
If Vegas truly had them as 8 point favorites, they surely have come a long way in setting odds.
I don't think Cavanaugh playing the entire game would've been enough for an 8 point cover.
And the simple reason is this:
Low scoring games favored the Giants, whereas higher scoring games favored the Niners.
Giants defense was better in '90 than '89, even if their offense might've dropped a bit.
49er defense was better in '90, but not so much better than '89, whereas offense was noticeably worse in '90.
And whomever on here keeps claiming the Niners were 8 point favorites makes me laugh.
If Vegas truly had them as 8 point favorites, they surely have come a long way in setting odds.
9ers were favored by 8.
Over/Under was 37.
See the attached and scroll down to see "Game Info".
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p.s.--Does anybody remember what Parcells said about Hostetler at the time? "I don't want to be known as a guy who coaches broken plays" or something like that.
Maybe Simms gets it done too but, as noted above, that Giant offense was fading a bit as the season wore on and too predictable. Hoss was an interesting change of pace that kept the offense from dying on the vine as they navigated thru the playoffs.
He was just enough as it turned out...
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And whomever on here keeps claiming the Niners were 8 point favorites makes me laugh.
If Vegas truly had them as 8 point favorites, they surely have come a long way in setting odds.
9ers were favored by 8.
Over/Under was 37.
See the attached and scroll down to see "Game Info". Spread - ( New Window )
Ok, I see it. Nice, thank you.
Now ask yourself, in 2022 would that spread be realistic?
Not even two months after that 7-3 MNF bloodbath, where does one come up with an 8 point spread?
To me, 8 points at least now is essentially giving the favored team at least a 90% chance of winning.
The sentiment had to be 50/50 for fans of both squads going into that game.