Huge hire still remains...Director of College Scouting

think? Any guess?

Anyone second the motion?

is my guess. Schoen worked with him in Miami and Buffalo. He's from Pearl River, went to Don Bosco and grew up a Giants fan.

eMotion.

In comment 15708220 section125 said:

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think? Any guess?

None, but it's not my area of expertise.

But it's the big one, other than GM, in my opinion...unless Schoen has a different structure in mind. His background is scouting so maybe the Director of College Scouting would have less authority here.

But I find it interesting that this hire hasn't (1) already happened, and (2) was before the other two scouts were hired.

I also am a bit surprised no scouts have been fired.

but the front office moves that have occurred in the past week are the most significant thing to happen with the team other than Thibodeaux/Neal being taken in the top 7 since Schoen and Daboll were hired.

These moves will largely determine the quality of the players we acquire moving forward.

but maybe the Giants are eyeing one of those candidates for Director of College scouting if they don't land the GM job.

In comment 15708226 Trainmaster said:

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Anyone second the motion?

I second.

Is that it will be someone Schoen already has a comfort level with.

In comment 15708249 Joe Beckwith said:

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In comment 15708226 Trainmaster said: Quote: Anyone second the motion? I second.

Screw that. If Sy gets that gig we lose him on BBI. He’s too valuable here. He can’t have that job. Sorry.

the guys in the Personnel and Scouting departments when we were certain those groups reported to Chris Mara, the nefarious owner with the bad title and not the GM?

This thread aged really well, huh...

John Mara Presser - 1/12/2022 - ( New Window )

Knows someone in the Eagles scouting department that he could steal! That would be great.

In comment 15708395 Jimmy Googs said:

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the guys in the Personnel and Scouting departments when we were certain those groups reported to Chris Mara, the nefarious owner with the bad title and not the GM? This thread aged really well, huh... John Mara Presser - 1/12/2022 - ( New Window )

Chris Mara still heads the department.

And you are one of the most tedious posters on this site.

about these kind of topics logically this past winter and only wanted to introduce made up theories, conjecture and how things would play out.

Just having a little fun with an I told you so moment. Don't get sore just because you got caught up in it too...

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but here are a few names that might be considered:

Cody Rager- he is with the Saints now, but his time in Miami crossed with Schoen

Dwaune Jones- he has only been with the Falcons 18 months as Asst Dir of College Scouting, but he spent several years with the Ravens learning under great leadership there and prior to that was a Saints scout.

Aaron Hineline- He is Asst Dir of College Scouting with Seattle. In March of each year Neil Stratton at Inside the League presents awards to what he believes are the 10 best at their jobs throughout NFL Scouting Departments. Hineline received one of the awards this year.

Tariq Ahmad- with the 49ers. Ahmad also won a Stratton award this season and what's interesting is that Ahmad was raised in NJ and actually worked years ago for Rutgers. Schoen has already picked some hires with local roots. Ahmad was recently promoted from Asst Dir to Director, so I can't imagine his interest in a lateral move.

and also wondering about them hiring new scouts....perhaps that will happen once they have a Director in place....

is some Colts reporting. They were not happy to lose Mike Derice to Schoen and the Giants.

Speaks well to the staff Schoen is building.
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Tom Pelissero
@TomPelissero
· May 13
The #Bills are hiring Alonzo Dotson as a national scout, per source. Dotson – a former Oklahoma defensive lineman and nephew of Santana Dotson – most recently was the #Jets’ southeast area scout. A rising name in the scouting ranks.

Neil Stratton
@InsideTheLeague
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Dotson was voted one of the 10 best scouts in the AFC by #NFL scouts in September '21. Accepted a plaque for this honor (inaugural BART List) at the 2022 ITL Combine Seminar.

In comment 15708239 Eric from BBI said:

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I also am a bit surprised no scouts have been fired.

Just my opinion. Perhaps they feel that the problem was with the decision makers and the poor strategy they were following rather than the quality of information being given to them. A bad gm and front office doesn't necessarily mean that the scouts are also bad.

Also consider the fact that the new front office would know from the scouts at their prior jobs if the current set of Giants scouts are respected by their peers.

And finally, the front office had a chance to compare the information given to them by the Giants scouts with information given to them by their prior teams' scouts.

That would certainly make sense, but you would think that at least one guy rubbed Schoen the wrong way.

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think? Any guess?

How about Charles Way? Smart, articulate played at a high level. He should certainly know how to access talent.
My 2 cents

I know it is a dumb thing to read into, but I had a 'Oh fuck. He's not going anywhere!' thought when Schoen gave him a fist bump after getting off the phone with KT.

I don't want to get caught in the cross fire here, but it looks like it was Schoen not Chris Mara who hired Rossetti, Hickey, Derice and Hamel. If Chris is the head of the Personnel Department, wouldn't he be the one doing the hiring and firing there?


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the guys in the Personnel and Scouting departments when we were certain those groups reported to Chris Mara, the nefarious owner with the bad title and not the GM?

This thread aged really well, huh... John Mara Presser - 1/12/2022 - ( New Window )



Chris Mara still heads the department.

And you are one of the most tedious posters on this site. [/quote]

but appears to like his title enough not to want to give it up...

In comment 15708516 Eric from BBI said:

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That would certainly make sense, but you would think that at least one guy rubbed Schoen the wrong way.

Perhaps they’re waiting to hire the director and let him evaluate cuts?