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Vegas seems a bit higher on the Giants this year than most

Sean : 5/14/2022 10:20 am
I’ve seen the over/under win total at 7 for NYG. That is higher than the following teams:

-Houston (4.5)
-Atlanta (5)
-NYJ (5.5)
-Seattle (5.5)
-Carolina (5.5)
-Jacksonville (6)
-Chicago (6.5)
-Detroit (6.5)

Also, NYG plays HOU, ATL, SEA, CAR, JAX, CHI & DET this year. Last year, Vegas also set the number at 7 in a year where NYG was going for it. This year, they have the same number where they are clearly tearing down the roster.

Perhaps it is the schedule and an expected bump from Daboll. I do find it interesting that Vegas does not view NYG as a bottom feeder.

Lastly, this number would suggest Vegas is tempting gamblers to take the under, which makes me think that Vegas projects and 8-9 win season for NYG. Conversely, last years number would have tempted gamblers to take the over based on the division & FA signings - the under ultimately cashed in.

All this to say, I would not be shocked if the Giants had a similar season to the 2021 Eagles. Everyone expects a bad, rebuilding team with a shaky QB & they overachieve.

I’m not seeing a 3-14 type season here and seems Vegas agrees.

It’s our schedule  
Essex : 5/14/2022 10:31 am : link
It’s really easy

It's a push  
Spider43 : 5/14/2022 10:32 am : link
Seven wins. Vegas ain't saying anything we didn't know already. Losing Getts alone is worth a plus three in the win column. No matter what roster we field out there. Nobody could do worse than him.
7 wins would most likely be a step in the right direction  
robbieballs2003 : 5/14/2022 10:47 am : link
depending on how we achieve those 7 wins. You want to see the team get better over time. If we came out and went 5-2 and then finished up 2-8 then I think people would still be down on this team.
I've been shaking my head  
mittenedman : 5/14/2022 10:53 am : link
at all the "worst roster I've ever seen" type comments from Giants fans.

This is the best combination of roster & coaching we've had in a long time. Yet people are punting. I have no illusions of them being a contender, but I'm pretty excited to see what they've got this year. I bought Judge's wolf tickets, but this feels like the start of the turnaround.
7 Wins Sounds Like Alot  
M.S. : 5/14/2022 10:58 am : link

for a team with so much turnover coming off years of ineptitude.

5-12.
depends on how they come out of the  
Dave on the UWS : 5/14/2022 11:01 am : link
first 5 games. I have a hard time imagining them beating Ten, Dallas, and GB. So if they can manage to beat Carolina and Chicago, they start 2-3. They would likely get better on both sides of the ball from there. I could then see 7-9 wins being very possible.
They had us at 7 last year too  
Go Terps : 5/14/2022 11:03 am : link
Dan Duggan predicted 5-12. That feels about right.
We play 6  
Finch : 5/14/2022 11:09 am : link
of these teams with worse expected win totals. Say we lose 2 of those (4 wins) and get 1 “unexpected” win (5 wins), you only need to go 2-4 in division to get to 7 wins.
Suckers bet?  
eli4life : 5/14/2022 11:13 am : link
Or vegas is acknowledging that someone with a clue is running this place now. I personally think we will be much better than we’ve been but I don’t see it translating into many w’s this season maybe a couple upsets if things go well which is fine by me if we are taking steps forward
If you can keep your QB healthy we will be better  
Chip : 5/14/2022 11:29 am : link
Especially if he has a pocket to step up into which has been a problem. The team needs to stay healthy and 7 wins is doable with a pocket and health. Having a TE who can block will be helpful as well. Engram was a disaster as a blocker not mention the drops some of which turned into interceptions.
This is the last team I’d wager on  
BillT : 5/14/2022 11:29 am : link
The unknowns are all over the roster plus a new staff. I like what I’ve seen so far but whether Vegas’ opinion or anyone else’s tells me anything about this team is quite the long shot.
I am at the point where I would like  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/14/2022 11:31 am : link
Eric writing actual game previews come late September instead of big picture thoughts on the franchise.
RE: They had us at 7 last year too  
Sean : 5/14/2022 11:33 am : link
In comment 15708426 Go Terps said:
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Dan Duggan predicted 5-12. That feels about right.

Last years 7 felt to me Vegas was begging you to take the over. This year it feels like they are begging you to take the under.

The perception last year was the Giants were a trendy division pick with Golladay, Rudolph & Jackson in the fold. This year the perception is a teardown.
No one knows  
AnnapolisMike : 5/14/2022 12:26 pm : link
This team could win anywhere from 4 to 10 games. You just never know what new coaching will do...especially when you had a roster the previous year decimated by injuries. On paper the Giants offense does not look bad. Defense is going to be the question mark. so much depends on your injury situation and the opponents.
Its the NY money  
Vanzetti : 5/14/2022 12:26 pm : link
New coach and new GM have Giants fans more optimistic than the talent level suggests

That pushes the win over-under higher

But it has nothing to do with Vegas insiders thinking the Giants are a good team. It's all bettor sentiment.
That’s a tough bet to win. You’d need the Giants  
Metnut : 5/14/2022 12:35 pm : link
to win at least 8 games to get paid.
dont forget the season 17 games now  
fish3321 : 5/14/2022 12:44 pm : link
7 wins is the new 6 win season
RE: It’s our schedule  
Jack Stroud : 5/14/2022 12:52 pm : link
In comment 15708401 Essex said:
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It’s really easy
No such thing as an "easy" schedule! Always remember, "on an given Sunday"!
We do not play ATL this year  
90.Cal : 5/14/2022 1:18 pm : link
.
If DJ is healthy..  
AG5686 : 5/14/2022 1:20 pm : link
And if he has a competent season
We can win 8 or 9 games
Easy Money  
ZogZerg : 5/14/2022 1:25 pm : link
$

Under!
The schedule is easy  
Justlurking : 5/14/2022 1:28 pm : link
They brought in real coaches…division sucks. 7-10 should be doable. I actually like the over bc i think it’s a rat line begging for under $$$
depends on coaching and health  
dancing blue bear : 5/14/2022 1:32 pm : link
The NFL is set up for the majority of the teams to be around .500. Wash and Philly rosters are comparable to ours, and Dallas is a qb better, with an idiot as a coach. be

We should have an average OL this year, skill positions are slightly above (IMO), competent back up qb

Our front 7 should be above average, possibly even good.

DBs and especially depth back there is an issue

point is we have the makings of a middle of the pack offense and defense.
If Jones is healthy and manages to hold onto the ball  
GeofromNJ : 5/14/2022 1:49 pm : link
seven wins seems doable to me. I say this without taking into account a Barkley return to rookie form which frankly I don't think will happen.
According to this, the NFC East should be much improved.  
BigBlueNH : 5/14/2022 2:02 pm : link
They have the division as a whole playing above .500 ball, after completely sucking the last 2 years. I don't see it.
Vegas is not relevant  
giantstock : 5/14/2022 2:06 pm : link
Maybe they will but here are the last fe Vegas Odds vs actual:

2017 Vegas 8.5 ACTUAL 3
2018 Vegas 6.5 ACTUAL 5
2019 Vegas 6 ACTUAL 4
2020 Vegas 6.5 ACTUAL 6
2021 Vegas 7 ACTUAL 4

So eventually the Giants will be better. When? I'm sure there are some posters that have picked "Over" every year. And ofc when they eventually become right in one out of 5-7 years etc then they'll brag how smart they were.
I dont bet  
Rudy5757 : 5/14/2022 3:06 pm : link
but I would bet the over. We won 4 games last year and 3 were against playoff teams. The biggest issue last year was the OL and we have improved that imo. We improved the pass rush imo. We are in some trouble at CB but the pass rush should help with that a little.

If this team stays healthy we can be in the playoff hunt but we are paper thin so injuries will play a big part.

I think the Daboll/Kafka O should net us 3 wins alone by doing what Judge said he was going to do, put guy in position to succeed.
I would put the over under at 9 1/2  
Milton : 5/14/2022 3:26 pm : link
It makes it a tough bet because the most likely outcomes are 9-8 and 10-7. Of course there's always the injury factor, which could either help or hurt the Giants chances depending on who, what, and where.
It's doing exactly what Vegas wants both sides and the vig  
larryflower37 : 5/14/2022 6:04 pm : link
Look at this site it's pretty evenly split between over and under.
Vegas loves to win but ultimately they want even bets on both sides and take the vig it has nothing to do with actually wins it's all public perception
RE: I've been shaking my head  
BestFeature : 5/14/2022 6:45 pm : link
In comment 15708419 mittenedman said:
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at all the "worst roster I've ever seen" type comments from Giants fans.

This is the best combination of roster & coaching we've had in a long time. Yet people are punting. I have no illusions of them being a contender, but I'm pretty excited to see what they've got this year. I bought Judge's wolf tickets, but this feels like the start of the turnaround.


Lots of holes but two of the three most important parts of the team are going to be very solid once a rookies get going. OL and DL. That's the best we've been on the lines since probably 2008.
RE: I've been shaking my head  
giantstock : 5/14/2022 10:01 pm : link
In comment 15708419 mittenedman said:
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at all the "worst roster I've ever seen" type comments from Giants fans.

This is the best combination of roster & coaching we've had in a long time. Yet people are punting. I have no illusions of them being a contender, but I'm pretty excited to see what they've got this year. I bought Judge's wolf tickets, but this feels like the start of the turnaround.


You have no credibility. You say this every year.
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