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Wan'Dale From the Backfield

TC : 5/15/2022 2:54 pm
The Giants new Smurf WR is more Swiss Army Knife than a conventional slot WR. I believe it has been both speculated and acknowledged that the Giants see him playing multiple roles in their offense despite his diminutive size.

It's a little surprising given his size that he's been as effective as he was in school as a RB. But his skills are real, and he's both tough and very strong for his size. Though it's not likely he's going to make his living running between the tackles.

But why should he? Motion him out, let him run a sweep, etc. There his God-given abilities can shine. And it is while considering him running a sweep that this somewhat comical picture comes to mind, imagine him behind Neal; Neal who is almost a foot taller and 150 pounds or so bigger. Will defenders even be able to find him? ;-)
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christian : 5/15/2022 3:18 pm : link
I don't doubt he'll get some looks in the run game, but he really shined as a conventional slot receiver when he transfered to Kentucky.

There are plenty of touches available for receivers on this team. I think by season's end Golladay, Toney, and Robinson are the primary starters and the key to a more vertical pass game.
I could see him used as a 3rd down back  
larryflower37 : 5/15/2022 3:34 pm : link
If you can get him on a LB or safety it could be deadly.
Does he remind you a little of Dave Meggett  
Ira : 5/15/2022 3:35 pm : link
?
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christian : 5/15/2022 3:51 pm : link
I think it's more likely Toney and Barkley get the extended hand offs in the pass game and quick hits.

Robinson has legit NFL route running skills and speed. I think he's a huge downfield threat.
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eric2425ny : 5/15/2022 4:03 pm : link
In comment 15709316 christian said:
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I think it's more likely Toney and Barkley get the extended hand offs in the pass game and quick hits.

Robinson has legit NFL route running skills and speed. I think he's a huge downfield threat.


Agreed, he seems like a much more polished receiving product than Toney. I don’t think he’s a gadget guy by any means.
I wonder if Kafka's offense will be like Garrett's  
Giantsfan79 : 5/15/2022 4:42 pm : link
in that there will be an obligatory reverse sometime during the opening drive?

If so give it Wan'Dale.
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christian : 5/15/2022 4:46 pm : link
In comment 15709321 eric2425ny said:
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In comment 15709316 christian said:


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I think it's more likely Toney and Barkley get the extended hand offs in the pass game and quick hits.

Robinson has legit NFL route running skills and speed. I think he's a huge downfield threat.



Agreed, he seems like a much more polished receiving product than Toney. I don’t think he’s a gadget guy by any means.


There was a highlight video of his time at Kentucky posted draft night. I didn't know anything about him, and based on the commentary I wasn't expecting him to look so polished. I watched that and was really impressed.

My first thought was -- Shepard's in trouble.
They  
uther99 : 5/15/2022 4:54 pm : link
tried that with Toney, jet sweeps were a disaster. Probably because the offense was totally predictable. If Wandale is in backfield, the D knows whats coming
Ezeudu pulls to the right and Wan’dale runs behind him, McKethan and  
Ivan15 : 5/15/2022 7:14 pm : link
Neal. The defense will never be able to find him. Shades of the KC Chiefs of the 1960s.
We've got Barkley to  
Bill in UT : 5/15/2022 7:22 pm : link
run between the tackles. We don't need Wan'Dale to do it
weren't we like last in the NFL last year in pre-snap motion?  
Del Shofner : 5/15/2022 7:39 pm : link
I think that's going to change.
RE: We've got Barkley to  
US1 Giants : 5/15/2022 8:19 pm : link
In comment 15709441 Bill in UT said:
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run between the tackles. We don't need Wan'Dale to do it


Barkley is best outside, not between the tackles. Wan'Dale will probably be used on Jet Sweeps (and fakes) as well as reverses (and fakes). Defenses will need to account for him.
RE: We've got Barkley to  
eric2425ny : 5/15/2022 9:08 pm : link
In comment 15709441 Bill in UT said:
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run between the tackles. We don't need Wan'Dale to do it


Unfortunately Barkley hasn’t looked all that great running between the tackles. I have a feeling Antonio Williams and/or Corbin are going to be handling a lot of those reps.

Some may look at the depth chart and suggest Breida is the #2, but he’s essentially a Barkley injury handcuff as his game is also pass catching and running outside. Not saying he’s as good as Barkley, but he’s had his moments, particularly with the 49ers. Like Barkley, Breida has also been snake bitten with injuries throughout his career.
I'd be very happy  
gfinop : 5/15/2022 9:35 pm : link
with the copy of Steve Smith's 2007 rookie season. He was money on 3rd downs!
RE: I'd be very happy  
JohnB : 5/15/2022 9:59 pm : link
In comment 15709615 gfinop said:
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with the copy of Steve Smith's 2007 rookie season. He was money on 3rd downs!


Steve Smith was injured most of his rookie year and played in 5 games during the regular season, had eight catchers for 63 yards. Is that the type of production you want??

I’d like to see something more than that
Sorry guys, I didn't post the  
Bill in UT : 5/15/2022 10:03 pm : link
sarcasm alert on Barkley between the tackles
RE: Sorry guys, I didn't post the  
Ivan15 : 5/15/2022 11:36 pm : link
In comment 15709652 Bill in UT said:
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sarcasm alert on Barkley between the tackles


I got it Bill. After everyone commented, I thought I was the thickhead.
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Bill in UT : 5/15/2022 11:46 pm : link
In comment 15709747 Ivan15 said:
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In comment 15709652 Bill in UT said:


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sarcasm alert on Barkley between the tackles



I got it Bill. After everyone commented, I thought I was the thickhead.


It's not anyone's fault, sarcasm and humor don't come across well in print for the most part.
RE: RE: We've got Barkley to  
TC : 5/16/2022 12:11 am : link
In comment 15709576 eric2425ny said:
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run between the tackles. We don't need Wan'Dale to do it



Unfortunately Barkley hasn’t looked all that great running between the tackles. I have a feeling Antonio Williams and/or Corbin are going to be handling a lot of those reps.

Looking at the way they're building their roster, and prior experience, I strongly suspect there'll be a lot less of those reps.

While I like a power offense, I don't think that's what this O is going to be about.
Robinson & Toney  
RetroJint : 5/16/2022 5:58 am : link
If either is ever lined up as the single back accept an 7-man pressure . To begin with the Chiefs and Bills offenses seldom use a second TE. That means 3 and sometimes 4 WR sets are going to be prevalent .

The talk about the reverses and jet sweeps is always overdone . How many times can you use those a game ? Maybe like 3 or 4? That would be a ton . What will be interesting for me is whether either of these guys can be involved in the downfield passing game .
I think Daboll is about getting the best weapons on the field  
Rudy5757 : 5/16/2022 9:13 am : link
and putting them in position to succeed. I can see Barkley and Robinson in the backfield together with one being motioned out. Hard to know what is going to happen on O but the more you can keep the D guessing the better.

I think they really like Toney and Robinson to keep the D on their toes. Golladay is just a WR.
The Giants are built to run on the outside  
DavidinBMNY : 5/16/2022 9:18 am : link
The Giants have a number of elusive players dangerous in space. I think they will have a lot of short yardage passes "like runs" in this offense. There was 1 half last year the bills didn't run once.

The concern is more do they have anyone who can run effective in short yardage...
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