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NFT: Reading “Blood in the Garden” re: Riley

Sean : 5/17/2022 9:15 pm
I’ve gone back and fourth on my thoughts of Pat Riley. Initially I despised the man for bailing on the Knicks, and absolutely love the fact that NYK ended his season in 98, 99 & 2000. As time went on, I started to understand why Riley left considering the ownership situation and what would become mostly incompetence from 2001 to present for the Knicks.

However, after watching recent Riley interviews I’m back to despising him. Hearing him talk about how much it meant to him that Mourning got a ring in 2006 is tough to take. Fact is, he DID bail on the Knicks and failed.

This is a guy who went after LeBron after the 2014 for leaving when things got bad? Seriously from Riley? The same guy who quit on the Knicks after 1995?

Anyone would have taken that deal from Miami, I get that. But, he quit on the Knicks.

Does anyone think differently? Excellent book by the way.
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He is pretty savvy  
jc in c-ville : 5/17/2022 9:27 pm : link
And maybe thought the Knicks missed their window during the Ewing years but the Houston/ Sprewell made for great series against Miami. Starks throwing up bricks will always haunt me but let’s face it- nobody was getting by Chicago with Jordan.
Great  
DanMetroMan : 5/17/2022 9:38 pm : link
Book and Arison made an all-time great move by giving Riley whatever it took to bring him in. The book really drove him how poor of a fit Charles Smith was
Read the Oakley autobiography  
BigBlueDent : 5/17/2022 9:44 pm : link
Right after Blood in the Garden, interesting how Oak constantly says Ewing never had what it took to be the alpha on a title team and repeatedly spoke of MJ with glowing deference.

As above poster said, Blood in the Garden showed how poor a fit Charles Smith was and also reiterates how bad of a move it was losing X Man.

Say what you want about Riley, the man wins everywhere he goes, and his decision to leave the Knicks has haunted the franchise for going on nearly 30 years
BigBlueDent  
Sean : 5/17/2022 9:47 pm : link
Ewing looks like an idiot in the book where he essentially told McDaniel the Knicks must not have wanted him. Brutal look by Ewing and then McDaniel signs with Boston.
Watching Riley rebuild the Heat into championship contenders  
The_Boss : 5/17/2022 11:18 pm : link
for like the 4th time in his tenure there, constantly has me thinking about what the Knicks could have been if they gave him the package he was seeking from the book. While he surely would have missed the Ewing window (nobody was unseating Jordan) as a head coach, I have no doubt he would have constructed at least one NBA Champion during these last 22 years as GM/President.
RE: Watching Riley rebuild the Heat into championship contenders  
Sean : 5/18/2022 6:40 am : link
In comment 15711949 The_Boss said:
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for like the 4th time in his tenure there, constantly has me thinking about what the Knicks could have been if they gave him the package he was seeking from the book. While he surely would have missed the Ewing window (nobody was unseating Jordan) as a head coach, I have no doubt he would have constructed at least one NBA Champion during these last 22 years as GM/President.

The JVG Knicks were also just an extension of Riley. Those teams played like Riley teams.
That was a great book.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/18/2022 7:04 am : link
I hate Riley, though I get why he left.
RE: That was a great book.  
Sean : 5/18/2022 7:26 am : link
In comment 15711982 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I hate Riley, though I get why he left.

What gets me is the tough guy speak about not bailing during tough times. He did that with the Knicks. He was right to leave given what he was getting, but failed to deliver a title here. If Starks is taken out for Blackman in game 7, Knicks very well may have won.
Don Nelson was way ahead of his time too  
Sean : 5/18/2022 8:30 am : link
Would have been smart moving off Ewing for Shaq.
Sean...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/18/2022 8:40 am : link
The 92-93 team was the best Knicks team of that era. Fucking Charles Smith.
RE: Sean...  
The_Boss : 5/18/2022 9:00 am : link
In comment 15712044 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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The 92-93 team was the best Knicks team of that era. Fucking Charles Smith.


I was a jr in high school..when Smith failed and the buzzer sounded at the end of that game, I laid face down on the carpet for a good amount of time..I knew they weren't winning in Chicago for game 6..it was over...I was in shock..Now maybe they lose game 7 at the Garden, but to lose that way...damn...
RE: RE: Watching Riley rebuild the Heat into championship contenders  
The_Boss : 5/18/2022 9:06 am : link
In comment 15711976 Sean said:
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In comment 15711949 The_Boss said:


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for like the 4th time in his tenure there, constantly has me thinking about what the Knicks could have been if they gave him the package he was seeking from the book. While he surely would have missed the Ewing window (nobody was unseating Jordan) as a head coach, I have no doubt he would have constructed at least one NBA Champion during these last 22 years as GM/President.


The JVG Knicks were also just an extension of Riley. Those teams played like Riley teams.


They did, but they were never going to beat the late 90's Bulls either. I will say, I wish they had a shot at them that one year (I forgot which year) they lost to Miami because they had guys suspended for coming off the bench during an on court altercation. They specifically built that team for Chicago and never got them in a 7 game series.
the main takeaway for me  
Enzo : 5/18/2022 9:30 am : link
was that Riley was nuts. Like legit crazy. Obviously a brilliant basketball guy but so many of the stories don't paint a picture of mental health. The other thing I took from the book was that Checketts was way in over his head as an exec. Seemed like he was always a step behind or getting out-foxed.

As for the book, it was ok but Herring just isn't that great a writer IMO. He goes into great detail on random anecdotes that might be funny for a minute - but glosses over whole playofff series with a sentence or two. I get it that he didn't want to recount each playoff win or loss in great detail, but there were many important games and performances that were barely mentioned.
RE: Read the Oakley autobiography  
Dr. D : 5/18/2022 9:43 am : link
In comment 15711862 BigBlueDent said:
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Right after Blood in the Garden, interesting how Oak constantly says Ewing never had what it took to be the alpha on a title team and repeatedly spoke of MJ with glowing deference.

I think Oak is wrong about criticizing Ewing. Sure he wasn't an "alpha" guy. It wasn't his personality and there were no other MJ's. But the Knicks didn't need an alpha guy. They needed more talent!

The fact is Ewing never had the supporting talent that MJ had. The Bulls didn't have a .500 record MJ's first few years until they got guys like Pippen, Grant, et al.

Oak should look at himself in the mirror more before he blames Ewing. Oak was a role player that the Bulls upgraded from.

There's nothing wrong with role players, every team needs them, but that's all the Knicks had besides Ewing, at least through his prime.

Great teams including the Bulls had multiple perennial all-stars. Pippen is still considered top 50-75 player of all time. Ewing might not have ever played with a top 750 player of all time.
Prime Ewing's best Robin was probably Starks.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/18/2022 9:57 am : link
Contrast that with MJ having Scottie.
The Starks game in Houston  
Dr. D : 5/18/2022 9:59 am : link
what I remember besides Starks shooting about 0-17, is that Derek Harper was shooting well. I remember wanting Harper to shoot more, but he was too unselfish.

I wanted Riley to tell Harper to shoot more, even draw plays to get him more open shots. Instead Riley told Starks to keep shooting as if he would eventually get hot.

The starting lineup was Ewing, Harper, a guy that would've made a nice 6th man (Starks), a role playing PF who'd get 10, 10 and a small fwd (who didn't play like a SF or PF) who just sucked. Despite all that, Ewing and the Knicks almost won the title and would've maybe if Harper or anyone but Starks took a few more shots (and Starks a few less).
RE: Prime Ewing's best Robin was probably Starks.  
Dr. D : 5/18/2022 10:06 am : link
In comment 15712151 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Contrast that with MJ having Scottie.

Starks would've made a good 6th man on a great team (nothing wrong with that, the problem was he was counted on to be a key starter and #2 scorer). Pippen is top 50-75 player of all time.

I don't understand how Oak and the Ewing critics don't see that.
switch Scottie Pippen and Charles Smith  
Greg from LI : 5/18/2022 10:12 am : link
And the Knicks easily win that series IMO
Dr. D...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/18/2022 10:25 am : link
Love Ewing, but Hakeem ate his lunch that series.
RE: Dr. D...  
Dr. D : 5/18/2022 11:02 am : link
In comment 15712190 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Love Ewing, but Hakeem ate his lunch that series.

and yet the Knicks almost won the series. I don't think anyone would argue that Ewing was greater than Hakeem (who might be top 10-20 player all time), but no one argued that Willis Reed was greater than Wilt or Kareem. As you know, it's a team game and I think you and I agree Ewing's supporting cast was never great.
RE: switch Scottie Pippen and Charles Smith  
Dr. D : 5/18/2022 11:03 am : link
In comment 15712174 Greg from LI said:
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And the Knicks easily win that series IMO

yup
I  
DanMetroMan : 5/18/2022 11:08 am : link
see people saying Chris Paul has never had a strong #2... um, Chris Paul played with an in his prime James Harden. Say what you will about Harden but the guy is a future HOFer.. compare that to John Starks and Charles Oakley...
RE: Don Nelson was way ahead of his time too  
DanMetroMan : 5/18/2022 11:11 am : link
In comment 15712037 Sean said:
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Would have been smart moving off Ewing for Shaq.


Ewing for Shaq was never actually on the table. Shaq wanted out of Orlando (and specifically to LAL) and Nelson suggested trading Ewing for assets to then trade for Shaq. It wasn't an actual discussion between Orlando and the Knicks and Checketts never took it seriously.
Riley has a shot load of hardware and accolades under his beld  
djm : 5/18/2022 11:49 am : link
all well earned....



And when the noise stops, and it's deadly quiet, and Pat is all alone in his cozy little bed with his nighttime thoughts, going through the same shit any mortal being goes through, meaning you can't hide from those demons forever...I want him to lay there KNOWING that despite everything he's accomplished he didn't make it in NYC. He didn't close. And if you don't make it in NYC that shit is forever. You can win 10000 titles in stupid Miami or LA.

It aint NYC. Fuck off Pat. Sleep tight.

Fuck off Pat Riley.
RE: RE: Don Nelson was way ahead of his time too  
djm : 5/18/2022 11:50 am : link
In comment 15712260 DanMetroMan said:
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Would have been smart moving off Ewing for Shaq.



Ewing for Shaq was never actually on the table. Shaq wanted out of Orlando (and specifically to LAL) and Nelson suggested trading Ewing for assets to then trade for Shaq. It wasn't an actual discussion between Orlando and the Knicks and Checketts never took it seriously.


Yes please put that nonsense to bed once and for all. Shaq for Ewing yea ok....lol..
RE: Riley has a shot load of hardware and accolades under his beld  
The_Boss : 5/18/2022 11:56 am : link
In comment 15712323 djm said:
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all well earned....



And when the noise stops, and it's deadly quiet, and Pat is all alone in his cozy little bed with his nighttime thoughts, going through the same shit any mortal being goes through, meaning you can't hide from those demons forever...I want him to lay there KNOWING that despite everything he's accomplished he didn't make it in NYC. He didn't close. And if you don't make it in NYC that shit is forever. You can win 10000 titles in stupid Miami or LA.

It aint NYC. Fuck off Pat. Sleep tight.

Fuck off Pat Riley.


I doubt Riley cares. His legacy in this game has been long cemented. Phil Jackson failed epically here too. Funny how that worked out: 2 of the winningest coaches in NBA history failed in the league's biggest market.
RE: RE: Riley has a shot load of hardware and accolades under his beld  
The_Boss : 5/18/2022 12:00 pm : link
In comment 15712335 The_Boss said:
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all well earned....



And when the noise stops, and it's deadly quiet, and Pat is all alone in his cozy little bed with his nighttime thoughts, going through the same shit any mortal being goes through, meaning you can't hide from those demons forever...I want him to lay there KNOWING that despite everything he's accomplished he didn't make it in NYC. He didn't close. And if you don't make it in NYC that shit is forever. You can win 10000 titles in stupid Miami or LA.

It aint NYC. Fuck off Pat. Sleep tight.

Fuck off Pat Riley.



I doubt Riley cares. His legacy in this game has been long cemented. Phil Jackson failed epically here too. Funny how that worked out: 2 of the winningest coaches in NBA history failed in the league's biggest market.


Riley didn't fail so to speak. Let me rephrase that. To me, unless the fortunes of this franchise take a major turn, he'll always be synonymous with the greatest era of Knick basketball in my lifetime. Unfortunately, he had to compete against the greatest player of all time during his too brief run here.
RE: RE: Riley has a shot load of hardware and accolades under his beld  
djm : 5/18/2022 12:29 pm : link
In comment 15712335 The_Boss said:
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In comment 15712323 djm said:


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all well earned....



And when the noise stops, and it's deadly quiet, and Pat is all alone in his cozy little bed with his nighttime thoughts, going through the same shit any mortal being goes through, meaning you can't hide from those demons forever...I want him to lay there KNOWING that despite everything he's accomplished he didn't make it in NYC. He didn't close. And if you don't make it in NYC that shit is forever. You can win 10000 titles in stupid Miami or LA.

It aint NYC. Fuck off Pat. Sleep tight.

Fuck off Pat Riley.



I doubt Riley cares. His legacy in this game has been long cemented. Phil Jackson failed epically here too. Funny how that worked out: 2 of the winningest coaches in NBA history failed in the league's biggest market.


I’d bet money that he cares.
Another big takeaway..  
Sean : 5/18/2022 1:37 pm : link
Dolan is a horrific owner. I knew he was bad, but didn’t know he was that bad. His meddling destroyed the team at the end of their run.

Also, trading Ewing was so dumb. Taking on millions of mediocre players when Ewing was an expiring contract.
RE: Another big takeaway..  
Matt M. : 5/18/2022 3:27 pm : link
In comment 15712448 Sean said:
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Dolan is a horrific owner. I knew he was bad, but didn’t know he was that bad. His meddling destroyed the team at the end of their run.

Also, trading Ewing was so dumb. Taking on millions of mediocre players when Ewing was an expiring contract.
The same year they also traded the Childs expiring contract and then extended an already old Mark Jackson without even waiting to see what he had left for them. 2 horrific moves that screwed the Knicks for years.
A few thoughts  
Matt M. : 5/18/2022 3:35 pm : link
1) I get people finding the irony in Riley chastising Lebron for leaving, but did Riley leave in bad times or did he leave because the owner was a complete a-hole and moron? I agree 100% the way he left was terrible (his protege's exit was worse in my opinion), but I don't blame him one bit for leaving.

2) Ewing never really had a #2. Starks or McDaniel were probably the best, which is a big dropoff from a #2 like Pippen.

3) Ewing may have fallen short of a ring, but I don't agree he couldn't be the alpha of a champion. That said, he did need a better #2.

4) Outside of the trading of Ewing's and Childs' expiring contracts, I always felt the next biggest mistake by the front office was letting Bernard King walk in 87. After waiting so long for his return, he 22 PPG in his brief (6 games) stint at the end of 86. He went on to average over 20 PPG for Washington over the next 4 seasons before injuring his knee again. I always wondered what a Ewing/King team would have done.

5) Then there's the revolving door of PGs which never made sense. For years they had no floor leader. They draft Jackson and he makes an immediate impact. A couple of years later they get rid of him and have Strickland and then move on from him quickly. Both went on to be all stars elsewhere. We went to stop gap PGs in Rivers and Harper and haven't really had a true #1 PG since.
RE: A few thoughts  
DanMetroMan : 5/18/2022 3:42 pm : link
In comment 15712532 Matt M. said:
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1) I get people finding the irony in Riley chastising Lebron for leaving, but did Riley leave in bad times or did he leave because the owner was a complete a-hole and moron? I agree 100% the way he left was terrible (his protege's exit was worse in my opinion), but I don't blame him one bit for leaving.

2) Ewing never really had a #2. Starks or McDaniel were probably the best, which is a big dropoff from a #2 like Pippen.

3) Ewing may have fallen short of a ring, but I don't agree he couldn't be the alpha of a champion. That said, he did need a better #2.

4) Outside of the trading of Ewing's and Childs' expiring contracts, I always felt the next biggest mistake by the front office was letting Bernard King walk in 87. After waiting so long for his return, he 22 PPG in his brief (6 games) stint at the end of 86. He went on to average over 20 PPG for Washington over the next 4 seasons before injuring his knee again. I always wondered what a Ewing/King team would have done.

5) Then there's the revolving door of PGs which never made sense. For years they had no floor leader. They draft Jackson and he makes an immediate impact. A couple of years later they get rid of him and have Strickland and then move on from him quickly. Both went on to be all stars elsewhere. We went to stop gap PGs in Rivers and Harper and haven't really had a true #1 PG since.


Riley left before Dolan took over. Riley left in 1995.
Long  
DanMetroMan : 5/18/2022 3:44 pm : link
story short, Riley wanted Checketts' job and ownership stake.
RE: RE: A few thoughts  
Matt M. : 5/18/2022 3:48 pm : link
In comment 15712540 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 15712532 Matt M. said:


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1) I get people finding the irony in Riley chastising Lebron for leaving, but did Riley leave in bad times or did he leave because the owner was a complete a-hole and moron? I agree 100% the way he left was terrible (his protege's exit was worse in my opinion), but I don't blame him one bit for leaving.

2) Ewing never really had a #2. Starks or McDaniel were probably the best, which is a big dropoff from a #2 like Pippen.

3) Ewing may have fallen short of a ring, but I don't agree he couldn't be the alpha of a champion. That said, he did need a better #2.

4) Outside of the trading of Ewing's and Childs' expiring contracts, I always felt the next biggest mistake by the front office was letting Bernard King walk in 87. After waiting so long for his return, he 22 PPG in his brief (6 games) stint at the end of 86. He went on to average over 20 PPG for Washington over the next 4 seasons before injuring his knee again. I always wondered what a Ewing/King team would have done.

5) Then there's the revolving door of PGs which never made sense. For years they had no floor leader. They draft Jackson and he makes an immediate impact. A couple of years later they get rid of him and have Strickland and then move on from him quickly. Both went on to be all stars elsewhere. We went to stop gap PGs in Rivers and Harper and haven't really had a true #1 PG since.



Riley left before Dolan took over. Riley left in 1995.
Isn't that when Viacom sold to Cablevision? But, his issues were with a corporate ownership. Personally, I would have given Riley the control he wanted. It's hard to argue with the success he did have with that team. He definitely got more out of them than anyone else would have. And, now looking at it in retrospect, he does know how to build a winner, not just coach one.
Dan  
Greg from LI : 5/18/2022 3:50 pm : link
Didn't Cablevision buy the Knicks in 1994?
RE: Dan  
Matt M. : 5/18/2022 3:51 pm : link
In comment 15712554 Greg from LI said:
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Didn't Cablevision buy the Knicks in 1994?
That's what I thought. Cablevision owned it, but Jim Dolan was not yet in charge.
RE: Dan  
DanMetroMan : 5/18/2022 3:51 pm : link
In comment 15712554 Greg from LI said:
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Didn't Cablevision buy the Knicks in 1994?


50/50 split with ITT, Dolan/Cablevision bought them out in 1997 with Dolan taking full control of MSG in 1999
RE: Long  
The_Boss : 5/18/2022 3:52 pm : link
In comment 15712543 DanMetroMan said:
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story short, Riley wanted Checketts' job and ownership stake.


This.

What could have been....
3/7/1997  
DanMetroMan : 5/18/2022 3:52 pm : link
"Cablevision Systems, a giant Long Island cable system operator and programmer, will acquire half of Madison Square Garden from its partner, ITT, in a $650 million deal that will give Cablevision nearly total control of the televising of professional sports in New York."
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DanMetroMan : 5/18/2022 3:53 pm : link
"In 1997, Cablevision bought out ITT Corp. for $600 million, giving the Dolans full control of the Knicks. Two years later, Dolan became MSG chairman and the day-to-day head honcho of the sports teams and regional sports networks. The Knicks made a surprising run to the NBA Finals that year."

Aka Dolan had nothing to do with Riley leaving.
Riley  
DanMetroMan : 5/18/2022 3:57 pm : link
all but admitted at the time it was about wanting Checketts job (he also wanted the ownership stake)



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Newsday reported that Riley at one point asked for $50 million over five years, plus 25% ownership of the team, and the Knicks countered with a five-year, $25-million offer.

The Knicks and Madison Square Garden were recently purchased by ITT, a multinational corporation, which won an intense competition with several other multinationals and had no intention of giving away even a piece of its prize.

In his release, Riley said his decision “had absolutely nothing to do with money” but everything to do with power.

“For the last two years,” Riley said, “I had consistently and repeatedly expressed to Knick management my desire and need to be charged with ultimate responsibility for all significant aspects of the ballclub. During this time, I had tried my best to reach an agreement with management on these issues. Unhappily, the gap between us could not be bridged.”
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The_Boss : 5/18/2022 3:58 pm : link
In comment 15712567 DanMetroMan said:
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"In 1997, Cablevision bought out ITT Corp. for $600 million, giving the Dolans full control of the Knicks. Two years later, Dolan became MSG chairman and the day-to-day head honcho of the sports teams and regional sports networks. The Knicks made a surprising run to the NBA Finals that year."

Aka Dolan had nothing to do with Riley leaving.


According to the book, the plot to leave went back to New Year's Eve in Colorado, I think. That was the first time Miami was brought to Riley's attention. I'm not sure if it was the summer prior where Riley met with the ITT executive basically asking for power/ownership and was turned down or sometime during the season after that holiday trip to Colorado.
I do know Charles Dolan was involved at that time  
Greg from LI : 5/18/2022 4:02 pm : link
Don't know about l'il Jimmy. I can remember reading in Losing the Edge how Charles Dolan pissed Mark Messier off in 1995 by making an insulting lowball offer when Messier was trying to renegotiate his contract.
The  
DanMetroMan : 5/18/2022 4:02 pm : link
Knicks got a 1st for Riley but quite frankly that wasn't enough. He almost openly left with an eye on that job and Miami publicly admitted to want him as their next coach (despite being under contract). They agreed to the compensation 9/2/1995, ONE day later he was hired, 1 pick wasn't enough. Flat out broke the rules.
I  
DanMetroMan : 5/18/2022 4:06 pm : link
don't think it was Arison, but somebody in the Heat FO went on the radio and admitted they hoped to hire Pat Riley (who again was under contract) and left under contentious circumstances. I guess a pick was better than nothing but jeez.
Matt M.  
Sean : 5/18/2022 4:07 pm : link
My only disagreement was that Riley didn’t really leave because of ownership being dumb, this was before Dolan. He left because if uncertainty with ownership and lack of control. Ultimately, I wish he would have gotten the 10% stake and stayed.

You are right about JVG though, he bailed at an awful time.
Everything about the Knicks is just sad and pathetic  
Greg from LI : 5/18/2022 4:08 pm : link
Bad luck, bonehead decisions, a moron owner.....just one kick in the crotch after another.
Riley  
DanMetroMan : 5/18/2022 4:10 pm : link
also wanted to poach JVG and when he couldn't, he hired Stan.

Big Ewing fan but every time I read/hear that he told McDaniel to leave if he didn't feel MSG was respecting him, I think about how dumb that was. + had Stanley Roberts not temporarily blocked the Charles Smith trade, McDaniel likely doesn't bolt. I enjoyed the book but it was also a bummer for so many reasons.
RE: Everything about the Knicks is just sad and pathetic  
DanMetroMan : 5/18/2022 4:11 pm : link
In comment 15712596 Greg from LI said:
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Bad luck, bonehead decisions, a moron owner.....just one kick in the crotch after another.


Even hiring Nelson. Nellie really was a basketball genius, the offensive stuff he created are concepts being used in 2022, but the roster was not made for Don Nelson and that should have been evident to everybody at the time.
RE: Riley  
The_Boss : 5/18/2022 4:20 pm : link
In comment 15712598 DanMetroMan said:
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also wanted to poach JVG and when he couldn't, he hired Stan.

Big Ewing fan but every time I read/hear that he told McDaniel to leave if he didn't feel MSG was respecting him, I think about how dumb that was. + had Stanley Roberts not temporarily blocked the Charles Smith trade, McDaniel likely doesn't bolt. I enjoyed the book but it was also a bummer for so many reasons.


I doubt the X-Man gets blocked 5 times at the end of game 5 like Smith did. He's going up to jam that bitch and hopefully in the process give Scottie a face full of his crotch like Shaq when he dunked on Chris Dudley in LA.
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