Literally, nobody takes anything you say seriously yet you make it seem like you are right all the time. Everything I have read and heard contradicts your asinine hatred for Miller. Every single stat and critic of the game has said the same thing I have about Panarin.
But you know better. You challenged my knowledge of the game yet I KNOW I have played the game longer and at a higher level than you have. Some of the most respected hockey posters on this site have contradicted your "dump and chase" theory as the best way to win this series and yet you plod on in your oblivious dream of self importance on a message board by talking down to people who obviously know a lot more about the sport than you do, and in doing so, resort to calling them names....even despite being wrong on virtually all of them.
I amturning the page and am now completely done engaging with you because you are not qorth my time nor energy to spell out the fairly obvious.
that I mentioned the dump and chase because posters here were saying Carolina's D was a fast, puck moving D. And in fact the Rangers had their success tonight playing straight line, north-south hockey
Again, you are wrong on Miller, but thats your opinion. You think you know more about hockey because you played in high school? I didnt play in high school, but I was a hockey play-by-play man for 12 years, a coach of various sports for 30 years, a PE teacher for 15 years, and a sportscaster for 25 years - including 11 years at national sportsradio networks. I know far more about sports than you do
You sound like the twitter idiots who kept telling me Quinn was right in having his D back into the goalie's lap, that they played hockey and were taught to never stand up at the blue line. Gallant gets here and the first thing the D does is start standing up at the blue line
You have your opinions, like saying the Rangers should keep Copp and Vatrano instead of Panarin, and I have mine. Move on
I have to agree with Frank here. Your constant harping on K'Andre is very odd.
Excuse me? Mr overreation is chiming in? Miller is bad in his own zone and doesnt play with the needed urgency and intensity in the playoffs. You think it was ok that he didnt even try to stop Malkin on his breakaway? And gave a crappy, regular season game in November effort on the next breakaway goal? His two hits tonight on the one shift I applauded on this thread. Unfortunately those were his first hits of the playoffs. I react to dumbasses who say Miller is playing so well
Anak.... Dont waste your time. Im trying to keep it civil, but his posts are so poorly informed, supported and dumb that I really cant take them seriously any more.
Dump and chase! Kill Miller!
THEY DIDN'T GET POSITIVE RESULTS WITH DUMP AND CHASE!!!!!
They scored their goal and got the best opportunities with 2 or 3 guys entering the zone and moving the puck. They dumped (cycled) at the end of shifts!
Truth told, neither of the top 2 lines really did anything with the puck outside of firing the puck into congested paths to the net and were subsequently repelled. I don't know what the game is you are watching, but we were trying to carry in the whole game! Difference is, the KIDS were the only successful ones at it. Line 1 was in La La land again. Line 2 relies on Panarin and it wasnt him really spearheading it, although he got the puck to Copp a few times (Strome looked drunk) and the 4th line had some success with the dump because Motte was all over the place.
That was the game plan theough 2 periods. Period 3, they tried to hack and chase and got beaten to almost every puck.
Keep up the good work Brockmire. Ugh. Just disappear
Why do you think so many people posted praise for Miller
The players did this several times this season, and every time Gallant called them out in the postgame presser. Carolina raised their urgency and intensity and the Rangers didnt respond, then tried to not lose. They stopped skating and didnt meet the raised urgency of Carolina
Kakko was slashed on the hands on that chance he didnt get a shot off, shoulda been a penalty
And on the tying goal Miller did a fly-by of the guy at the point, then stopped skating and watched. Look at the replay
Top 2 lines were zeroes tonight
Yep, Miller had no business being in that position. Trouba took his own man and if Miller hadn’t floated into no man’s land up near the blue line that goal doesn’t happen.!
The play never should have happened. Trouba panicks to flip the puck out of the zone. Panarin and Copp are in the NZ. Panarin did not skate back hard enough.
But Trouba had PLENTY of room to carry the puck out of the corner. The defender was probably 8-10 feet away from him up near the blue line.
Is brutal to watch. Absolutely brutal, Panarin and Strome are terrible on the forecheck and Copp is the only forechecking presence on the line. This trio are the ones who seem to consistently get hemmed in their defensive zone and cannot get out.
I like what Gallant did with the lines last night. Rolled all four consistently. The bottom six was better than the top six. I thought the Rangers moved the puck very well to get through the NZ. They employed some different strategies to move guys around and get the space they needed to get through.
It’s on Panarin and Zibby not busting it back. If they get back, Trouba never has to come off of Aho in the first place.
I think there's blame to go around on that one but Panarin needed to hustle back once Miller chased the puck. He may have been able to prevent the rebound shot that went in.
two periods the Rangers played an near perfect game.
It was not a sell out forecehck. It was what I thought they would do, focus in the d-zone on clogging up the middle - and if there was a sell out anywhere it was in the d-zone, no second chances for CAR and all the shots were from the outside without a lot of traffic in front. Very few high danger or even low danger scoring chances.
Quick through the neutral zone and the NYR scoring chances were mostly on the rush.
Kakko obviously missed a couple, Chytil missed a gimme, but that line was flying.
I'm not sure what changed in the 3rd. Of course CAR deserves a little credit. It looked like a pre-season game for them in the 1st two periods and they were fortunate Raanta kept it a one goal game.
As others have pointed out the Rangers looked like their plan in the 3rd period was to run out the clock (WTF?) with flips out to the neutral zone, no more feet moving in the d-zone, no breakout, no zip in the neutral zone. Some of that is dictated by CAR but not all of it. I would like to hear what Gallant has to say.
I think the Kakko slash/hook could have been called, it often is, but I have no real issue with it as a no-call - it would have been a weak penalty but like I said it's often called, I thought the refs were fine.
Lost opportunity IMO, but I still think think the Rangers win the series.
I thought the defense played higher up than they did against Pit which helped deny zone entries. They played a good game in the neutral zone, as you said, pj.
I think the forwards were a million times better on the backcheck. There were a few goals last series where the Penguins walked the blue line upon zone entry, which shouldn't happen if the forwards are back.
I thought the defense played higher up than they did against Pit which helped deny zone entries. They played a good game in the neutral zone, as you said, pj.
I think the forwards were a million times better on the backcheck. There were a few goals last series where the Penguins walked the blue line upon zone entry, which shouldn't happen if the forwards are back.
exactly and then in the 3rd the whole team relaxed and allowed easy entries and basically turned pucks over. Not sure why, were they gassed? or was that an actual plan?
You know who had a rough game was TDA. holy shit he was bad.
If it were called, it would be a defensible call by the letter of the law, but the contact really was pretty minor. It's not something that will generally be called in the playoffs, and as we saw, the refs clearly did not intend to call a tight game. Sucks for us but I can't honestly say it was an outrage or anything. The only really blatant no call I can remember was the crosscheck on Motte in the first, and since it was away from the play, it's plausible that the refs didn't see it.
I think the third probably was a bit of being gassed and a bit of strategy. They did look a bit tired in being beaten to loose pucks consistently, but they also made little attempt to break out when they did gain possession in their own end. Just kept flipping the puck out over and over as if they were killing a penalty all period long. It is always frustrating when a team plays well and gets a lead, and then stops doing the things that got them the lead in the first place. Why go away from what was working?
Glass half full - the Rangers proved that they can play with Carolina if they play the way they did the first two periods. They missed some opportunities that would have won the game that they should bury next time. Lost on a fluky deflection by their own defenseman, tough break.
Glass half empty - when Carolina cranked up the intensity, the Rangers couldn't match. Canes hit three posts in the third - this could have easily. Carolina is unlikely to play so passively in Game 2. Rangers missed a golden opportunity to swipe home ice.
Greg, more glass half full stuff - is the Lafreniere post hit, and the misses by Kakko and Chytil (no idea how Chytil didn't lift that it didn't look like the puck was on edge or anything).
Also, I don't expect Raanta to play that well every game.
Greg, more glass half full stuff - is the Lafreniere post hit, and the misses by Kakko and Chytil (no idea how Chytil didn't lift that it didn't look like the puck was on edge or anything).
Also, I don't expect Raanta to play that well every game.
Third line seems extremely comfortable out there. It feels like it's all coming naturally to the three of them. They seem to do less thinking and just trust their instincts and make things happen.
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It's still exciting to see Laf developing before our eyes. His game has really taken a big step forward over the last six weeks or so, and you can really see the talent shining through.
It's still exciting to see Laf developing before our eyes. His game has really taken a big step forward over the last six weeks or so, and you can really see the talent shining through.
Yes! And a little puck luck and he puts them up 2-0 last night. Clanked one off the crossbar/post corner.
It's still exciting to see Laf developing before our eyes. His game has really taken a big step forward over the last six weeks or so, and you can really see the talent shining through.
I agree, Lafreniere has been excellent in these playoffs, and I think Chytil and Kakko (despite his empty net miss) have really made the most of this playoff opportunity and showed that they are definitely part of the plan going forward. I'd like to see that line go from 13 minutes to at least 15. They've been the most consistent line for the Rangers through 8 playoff games, and have been far superior to the second line which has really just been awful. I'm not sure if there is something wrong physically with Panarin or if Pittsburgh and Carolina are just playing him in a way where he has no space. It's been frustrating watching him not only be a non-factor, but a liability at times.
honestly, I wouldn't be surprised to learn he's playing through injury
Remember 2012? Gaborik did very little in the postseason and was getting slammed the way Panarin is now. Turned out that he was playing through a shoulder injury that required surgery after the season ended.
that Panarin is playing through something. Of course, who isn't at this time of the year. But remember he left one of the last games of the regular season injured.
Also doesn't help that he's playing with Strome. The guy is just out for a leisurely skate out there. Hardly makes any impact. Will be happy to see him move on. Panarin carries a heavy burden to create for that line. But I thought the entire top 6 was pretty poor. Need more consistency from those guys, not just when their backs are against the wall.
The Kakko miss was bad. But that line was easily their most productive. Kakko could have had a few assists already by that point. I can forgive the miss, shit happens. They need more consistent help.
yes, I have progressed to actively hating Strome now
They have $7.3mm of cap space next year according to capFriendly. Have a couple RFAs and need to fill a few roster spots. The $3.4mm in dead cap space is killer. I don't know how we meaningfully improve there.
It's still exciting to see Laf developing before our eyes. His game has really taken a big step forward over the last six weeks or so, and you can really see the talent shining through.
Seconded. I love how tough he is, willing to take and give the hits and I really love how annoyed he was with last night's loss, slamming his stick on the boards. He's also got a lethal shot. More playing time means more shots means more goals. He will score 30 next year.
RE: RE: yes, I have progressed to actively hating Strome now
They have $7.3mm of cap space next year according to capFriendly. Have a couple RFAs and need to fill a few roster spots. The $3.4mm in dead cap space is killer. I don't know how we meaningfully improve there.
I'm not very good at this with hockey, but I think it's a little bit higher than that. I believe the cap is going to be $82.5M, and the $75M-ish number that you added up to has a slew of AHL two-way contracts in it.
So, between Pajuniemi, Hunt, Brodzinski, Jones, Lundqvist, Robertson I would think there's at least another $3-4M.
But your point is still right on, considering that there's also no backup goalie, Kakko, or Blais in the number yet, let alone the potentially desirable UFAs like Copp, Vatrano, Motte.
I think they could be starting as high as $12M space if they wisely attach a pick or prospect to move Nemeth.
That's just spitballing with some numbers that would appear to be very team-friendly, and that still puts them over, and still a forward or two light numbers wise.
So they have some wood to chop for sure.
RE: RE: yes, I have progressed to actively hating Strome now
They have $7.3mm of cap space next year according to capFriendly. Have a couple RFAs and need to fill a few roster spots. The $3.4mm in dead cap space is killer. I don't know how we meaningfully improve there.
Should have traded Kravtsov for a young-ish C. Still should trade his rights.
The good news is the Rangers don't have any bad contracts or obviously bad contracts that you say need to be bought out or salary dumped.
You could argue they have some overpays, but otherwise they have good players who they pay good money to.
RE: RE: RE: yes, I have progressed to actively hating Strome now
They have $7.3mm of cap space next year according to capFriendly. Have a couple RFAs and need to fill a few roster spots. The $3.4mm in dead cap space is killer. I don't know how we meaningfully improve there.
I'm not very good at this with hockey, but I think it's a little bit higher than that. I believe the cap is going to be $82.5M, and the $75M-ish number that you added up to has a slew of AHL two-way contracts in it.
So, between Pajuniemi, Hunt, Brodzinski, Jones, Lundqvist, Robertson I would think there's at least another $3-4M.
But your point is still right on, considering that there's also no backup goalie, Kakko, or Blais in the number yet, let alone the potentially desirable UFAs like Copp, Vatrano, Motte.
I think they could be starting as high as $12M space if they wisely attach a pick or prospect to move Nemeth.
That's just spitballing with some numbers that would appear to be very team-friendly, and that still puts them over, and still a forward or two light numbers wise.
So they have some wood to chop for sure.
Thanks, I was just going off CapFriendly. I don't follow the cap all that closely.
I am not 100% sure on how LTIR works with regards to timing (off season), but if he can go on LTIR right away and the Rangers do this they basically get 4 years of an extra $7.8M each year on the cap (assuming Weber never plays again) and it only costs them a total of $6M in cash (not per year, total).
I am not 100% sure on how LTIR works with regards to timing (off season), but if he can go on LTIR right away and the Rangers do this they basically get 4 years of an extra $7.8M each year on the cap (assuming Weber never plays again) and it only costs them a total of $6M in cash (not per year, total).
Not quite seeing how acquiring a LTIR guy like Weber helps a cap team like the Rangers. LTIR guys where their cap hit is higher than their salary are usually ideal for floor teams (Coyotes). Rangers are spending that $7.8 mil anyways.
contracts count toward the cap, how are you getting rid of those contracts without replacing the player on the NHL roster?
two way contracts below $1.5M total do not count toward the cap while the player is in the AHL.
so, those guys are all either reducing the number of players they need to acquire, or they aren't on the cap.
Out of the players I listed, At least 4 of them will be in the AHL. So that's the low end $3M number i cited.
you have off-season and in-season cap hits.
Off-season I believe they all two-way contracts count as NHL contracts.
in-season it gets reduced if they are sent down
I might be wrong, but this is how I think it works
I don't disagree with any of this (not saying it's correct, but it's not in conflict with my very limited understanding).
But in the offseason I believe you're allowed to be up to 10% over the cap. So the two-way contracts for players who you project to be in the AHL are never really knee-capping you.
At the end of the day, for NYR I think all roads point to something like $11M available to do a bunch of thing, which isn't a lot.
But you know better. You challenged my knowledge of the game yet I KNOW I have played the game longer and at a higher level than you have. Some of the most respected hockey posters on this site have contradicted your "dump and chase" theory as the best way to win this series and yet you plod on in your oblivious dream of self importance on a message board by talking down to people who obviously know a lot more about the sport than you do, and in doing so, resort to calling them names....even despite being wrong on virtually all of them.
I amturning the page and am now completely done engaging with you because you are not qorth my time nor energy to spell out the fairly obvious.
Wow, to see you double down is excruciating.
So you dont know shit. Par for the course whenever I see your stupid handle.
Again, you are wrong on Miller, but thats your opinion. You think you know more about hockey because you played in high school? I didnt play in high school, but I was a hockey play-by-play man for 12 years, a coach of various sports for 30 years, a PE teacher for 15 years, and a sportscaster for 25 years - including 11 years at national sportsradio networks. I know far more about sports than you do
You sound like the twitter idiots who kept telling me Quinn was right in having his D back into the goalie's lap, that they played hockey and were taught to never stand up at the blue line. Gallant gets here and the first thing the D does is start standing up at the blue line
You have your opinions, like saying the Rangers should keep Copp and Vatrano instead of Panarin, and I have mine. Move on
Excuse me? Mr overreation is chiming in? Miller is bad in his own zone and doesnt play with the needed urgency and intensity in the playoffs. You think it was ok that he didnt even try to stop Malkin on his breakaway? And gave a crappy, regular season game in November effort on the next breakaway goal? His two hits tonight on the one shift I applauded on this thread. Unfortunately those were his first hits of the playoffs. I react to dumbasses who say Miller is playing so well
Dump and chase! Kill Miller!
Truth told, neither of the top 2 lines really did anything with the puck outside of firing the puck into congested paths to the net and were subsequently repelled. I don't know what the game is you are watching, but we were trying to carry in the whole game! Difference is, the KIDS were the only successful ones at it. Line 1 was in La La land again. Line 2 relies on Panarin and it wasnt him really spearheading it, although he got the puck to Copp a few times (Strome looked drunk) and the 4th line had some success with the dump because Motte was all over the place.
That was the game plan theough 2 periods. Period 3, they tried to hack and chase and got beaten to almost every puck.
Keep up the good work Brockmire. Ugh. Just disappear
Kakko was slashed on the hands on that chance he didnt get a shot off, shoulda been a penalty
And on the tying goal Miller did a fly-by of the guy at the point, then stopped skating and watched. Look at the replay
Top 2 lines were zeroes tonight
Yep, Miller had no business being in that position. Trouba took his own man and if Miller hadn’t floated into no man’s land up near the blue line that goal doesn’t happen.!
Carolina isn't this scary monster of a team we made ourselves believe. Shoulda had that one. But I'm onto Game 2.
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I re-watched that sequence.
The play never should have happened. Trouba panicks to flip the puck out of the zone. Panarin and Copp are in the NZ. Panarin did not skate back hard enough.
But Trouba had PLENTY of room to carry the puck out of the corner. The defender was probably 8-10 feet away from him up near the blue line.
I like what Gallant did with the lines last night. Rolled all four consistently. The bottom six was better than the top six. I thought the Rangers moved the puck very well to get through the NZ. They employed some different strategies to move guys around and get the space they needed to get through.
I think there's blame to go around on that one but Panarin needed to hustle back once Miller chased the puck. He may have been able to prevent the rebound shot that went in.
It was not a sell out forecehck. It was what I thought they would do, focus in the d-zone on clogging up the middle - and if there was a sell out anywhere it was in the d-zone, no second chances for CAR and all the shots were from the outside without a lot of traffic in front. Very few high danger or even low danger scoring chances.
Quick through the neutral zone and the NYR scoring chances were mostly on the rush.
Kakko obviously missed a couple, Chytil missed a gimme, but that line was flying.
I'm not sure what changed in the 3rd. Of course CAR deserves a little credit. It looked like a pre-season game for them in the 1st two periods and they were fortunate Raanta kept it a one goal game.
As others have pointed out the Rangers looked like their plan in the 3rd period was to run out the clock (WTF?) with flips out to the neutral zone, no more feet moving in the d-zone, no breakout, no zip in the neutral zone. Some of that is dictated by CAR but not all of it. I would like to hear what Gallant has to say.
I think the Kakko slash/hook could have been called, it often is, but I have no real issue with it as a no-call - it would have been a weak penalty but like I said it's often called, I thought the refs were fine.
Lost opportunity IMO, but I still think think the Rangers win the series.
I think the forwards were a million times better on the backcheck. There were a few goals last series where the Penguins walked the blue line upon zone entry, which shouldn't happen if the forwards are back.
I think the forwards were a million times better on the backcheck. There were a few goals last series where the Penguins walked the blue line upon zone entry, which shouldn't happen if the forwards are back.
exactly and then in the 3rd the whole team relaxed and allowed easy entries and basically turned pucks over. Not sure why, were they gassed? or was that an actual plan?
You know who had a rough game was TDA. holy shit he was bad.
I think the third probably was a bit of being gassed and a bit of strategy. They did look a bit tired in being beaten to loose pucks consistently, but they also made little attempt to break out when they did gain possession in their own end. Just kept flipping the puck out over and over as if they were killing a penalty all period long. It is always frustrating when a team plays well and gets a lead, and then stops doing the things that got them the lead in the first place. Why go away from what was working?
Glass half full - the Rangers proved that they can play with Carolina if they play the way they did the first two periods. They missed some opportunities that would have won the game that they should bury next time. Lost on a fluky deflection by their own defenseman, tough break.
Glass half empty - when Carolina cranked up the intensity, the Rangers couldn't match. Canes hit three posts in the third - this could have easily. Carolina is unlikely to play so passively in Game 2. Rangers missed a golden opportunity to swipe home ice.
Also, I don't expect Raanta to play that well every game.
Also, I don't expect Raanta to play that well every game.
Third line seems extremely comfortable out there. It feels like it's all coming naturally to the three of them. They seem to do less thinking and just trust their instincts and make things happen.
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Especially since he's now infecting others with his inability to hit an open net. It's gone airborne!
Yes! And a little puck luck and he puts them up 2-0 last night. Clanked one off the crossbar/post corner.
I suspect this will go 6 or 7 games.
I suspect this will go 6 or 7 games.
I checked TOI - they played 14-15 minutes, it has got to be 17-18 - especially when there were only a couple of penalties.
I suspect this will go 6 or 7 games.
I checked TOI - they played 14-15 minutes, it has got to be 17-18 - especially when there were only a couple of penalties.
I agree, Lafreniere has been excellent in these playoffs, and I think Chytil and Kakko (despite his empty net miss) have really made the most of this playoff opportunity and showed that they are definitely part of the plan going forward. I'd like to see that line go from 13 minutes to at least 15. They've been the most consistent line for the Rangers through 8 playoff games, and have been far superior to the second line which has really just been awful. I'm not sure if there is something wrong physically with Panarin or if Pittsburgh and Carolina are just playing him in a way where he has no space. It's been frustrating watching him not only be a non-factor, but a liability at times.
Also doesn't help that he's playing with Strome. The guy is just out for a leisurely skate out there. Hardly makes any impact. Will be happy to see him move on. Panarin carries a heavy burden to create for that line. But I thought the entire top 6 was pretty poor. Need more consistency from those guys, not just when their backs are against the wall.
The Kakko miss was bad. But that line was easily their most productive. Kakko could have had a few assists already by that point. I can forgive the miss, shit happens. They need more consistent help.
Hes not only missing the net, but its to the point where I actually expect him to be taking penalties.
They have $7.3mm of cap space next year according to capFriendly. Have a couple RFAs and need to fill a few roster spots. The $3.4mm in dead cap space is killer. I don't know how we meaningfully improve there.
Seconded. I love how tough he is, willing to take and give the hits and I really love how annoyed he was with last night's loss, slamming his stick on the boards. He's also got a lethal shot. More playing time means more shots means more goals. He will score 30 next year.
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Can't wait to be rid of him.
They have $7.3mm of cap space next year according to capFriendly. Have a couple RFAs and need to fill a few roster spots. The $3.4mm in dead cap space is killer. I don't know how we meaningfully improve there.
I'm not very good at this with hockey, but I think it's a little bit higher than that. I believe the cap is going to be $82.5M, and the $75M-ish number that you added up to has a slew of AHL two-way contracts in it.
So, between Pajuniemi, Hunt, Brodzinski, Jones, Lundqvist, Robertson I would think there's at least another $3-4M.
But your point is still right on, considering that there's also no backup goalie, Kakko, or Blais in the number yet, let alone the potentially desirable UFAs like Copp, Vatrano, Motte.
I think they could be starting as high as $12M space if they wisely attach a pick or prospect to move Nemeth.
But that will be spoken for quickly.
$1M backup goalie?
$5M Copp?
$2.5M Kakko?
$2M Motte?
$2M Blais?
That's just spitballing with some numbers that would appear to be very team-friendly, and that still puts them over, and still a forward or two light numbers wise.
So they have some wood to chop for sure.
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Can't wait to be rid of him.
They have $7.3mm of cap space next year according to capFriendly. Have a couple RFAs and need to fill a few roster spots. The $3.4mm in dead cap space is killer. I don't know how we meaningfully improve there.
Should have traded Kravtsov for a young-ish C. Still should trade his rights.
The good news is the Rangers don't have any bad contracts or obviously bad contracts that you say need to be bought out or salary dumped.
You could argue they have some overpays, but otherwise they have good players who they pay good money to.
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Can't wait to be rid of him.
They have $7.3mm of cap space next year according to capFriendly. Have a couple RFAs and need to fill a few roster spots. The $3.4mm in dead cap space is killer. I don't know how we meaningfully improve there.
I'm not very good at this with hockey, but I think it's a little bit higher than that. I believe the cap is going to be $82.5M, and the $75M-ish number that you added up to has a slew of AHL two-way contracts in it.
So, between Pajuniemi, Hunt, Brodzinski, Jones, Lundqvist, Robertson I would think there's at least another $3-4M.
But your point is still right on, considering that there's also no backup goalie, Kakko, or Blais in the number yet, let alone the potentially desirable UFAs like Copp, Vatrano, Motte.
I think they could be starting as high as $12M space if they wisely attach a pick or prospect to move Nemeth.
But that will be spoken for quickly.
$1M backup goalie?
$5M Copp?
$2.5M Kakko?
$2M Motte?
$2M Blais?
That's just spitballing with some numbers that would appear to be very team-friendly, and that still puts them over, and still a forward or two light numbers wise.
So they have some wood to chop for sure.
Thanks, I was just going off CapFriendly. I don't follow the cap all that closely.
We desperately need a strong 2C IMO.
two way contracts below $1.5M total do not count toward the cap while the player is in the AHL.
so, those guys are all either reducing the number of players they need to acquire, or they aren't on the cap.
Out of the players I listed, At least 4 of them will be in the AHL. So that's the low end $3M number i cited.
Not quite seeing how acquiring a LTIR guy like Weber helps a cap team like the Rangers. LTIR guys where their cap hit is higher than their salary are usually ideal for floor teams (Coyotes). Rangers are spending that $7.8 mil anyways.
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contracts count toward the cap, how are you getting rid of those contracts without replacing the player on the NHL roster?
two way contracts below $1.5M total do not count toward the cap while the player is in the AHL.
so, those guys are all either reducing the number of players they need to acquire, or they aren't on the cap.
Out of the players I listed, At least 4 of them will be in the AHL. So that's the low end $3M number i cited.
you have off-season and in-season cap hits.
Off-season I believe they all two-way contracts count as NHL contracts.
in-season it gets reduced if they are sent down
I might be wrong, but this is how I think it works
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In comment 15713668 pjcas18 said:
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contracts count toward the cap, how are you getting rid of those contracts without replacing the player on the NHL roster?
two way contracts below $1.5M total do not count toward the cap while the player is in the AHL.
so, those guys are all either reducing the number of players they need to acquire, or they aren't on the cap.
Out of the players I listed, At least 4 of them will be in the AHL. So that's the low end $3M number i cited.
you have off-season and in-season cap hits.
Off-season I believe they all two-way contracts count as NHL contracts.
in-season it gets reduced if they are sent down
I might be wrong, but this is how I think it works
I don't disagree with any of this (not saying it's correct, but it's not in conflict with my very limited understanding).
But in the offseason I believe you're allowed to be up to 10% over the cap. So the two-way contracts for players who you project to be in the AHL are never really knee-capping you.
At the end of the day, for NYR I think all roads point to something like $11M available to do a bunch of thing, which isn't a lot.