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BrettNYG10 : 5/18/2022 8:37 am
Rangers in 3.

Good morning, Carl.

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RE: Over  
The_Boss : 5/18/2022 9:54 pm : link
In comment 15712905 Percy said:
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Waste of some very good Rangers hockey.


Played like pussies in the 3rd. My guess is it’s 0-2 after Friday
Horrendous loss  
Mook80 : 5/18/2022 9:55 pm : link
not that impressed by Hurricanes, but you can't give away a game when you have a wide open net to ice it on the road with 4 minutes or whatever to go.

Lindgren literally played that puck like he was kreider posted up in front on the power play, what the fuck
Bullshit game  
djm : 5/18/2022 9:55 pm : link
Fuck off
They looked gassed  
Spider43 : 5/18/2022 9:55 pm : link
Towards the end of regulation. And the 'Canes wanted it more, unfortunately.
That is just a bad loss  
Essex : 5/18/2022 9:55 pm : link
That old saying when you play not it lose, you lose

It didn’t have to be their way either tonight—just heartbreaking
if we're being honest  
Mook80 : 5/18/2022 9:56 pm : link
these two teams might be the 6th and 7th best teams left in the playoffs.

Not impressed by either one
Major missed opportunity there  
Greg from LI : 5/18/2022 9:56 pm : link
Carolina isn't likely to play as poorly I'm game 2 as they did in the first two periods tonight.
......  
Route 9 : 5/18/2022 9:56 pm : link
30 for 30: the night Shesterkin attempted to kill his soft team and dumbass coach with his skate
ya gotta love the  
Mook80 : 5/18/2022 9:57 pm : link
"great fans" line from a player on a team who had to limit buying to certain zip codes so the place wouldnt be half rangers fans.

And what the fuck was that lame chant at the end?
Wouldn’t be surprised the if hurricanes roll them Friday night  
The_Boss : 5/18/2022 9:58 pm : link
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What the fuck Lindgren.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/18/2022 9:58 pm : link
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I love Gerard  
MetsAreBack : 5/18/2022 9:58 pm : link
But he’s got to explain himself in this presser. There is absolutely no excuse for that third period strategy.
RE: What the fuck Lindgren.  
Greg from LI : 5/18/2022 9:59 pm : link
In comment 15712921 BrettNYG10 said:
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Seriously. He was playing offense there. The hell was that?

Kakko played a strong game in the first two periods but he picked a horrible time to develop Ryan Strome Disease
RE: Wouldn’t be surprised the if hurricanes roll them Friday night  
jgambrosio : 5/18/2022 10:00 pm : link
In comment 15712920 The_Boss said:
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After the series they must went through and then blowing this game, wouldn't be a surprise at all.
RE: I love Gerard  
Matt M. : 5/18/2022 10:01 pm : link
In comment 15712922 MetsAreBack said:
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But he’s got to explain himself in this presser. There is absolutely no excuse for that third period strategy.
Was that strategy or just playing flat?
What is it about Carolina  
JoeyBigBlue : 5/18/2022 10:01 pm : link
That the Rangers can’t solve? It’s like they struggle to score more than 2 goals against that team.
......  
Route 9 : 5/18/2022 10:03 pm : link
That was so fucking obvious that was going to happen
Couldn’t close it out  
M.S. : 5/18/2022 10:05 pm : link

$&@!
the kakko play  
Mook80 : 5/18/2022 10:06 pm : link
happens. It's unfortunate and he'll bury that 99 times out of 100 but that was unfortunately the one time. The bigger problem was the tying goal no coverage whatsoever by anyone to be there to take away the rebound attempt, that was a lack of effort.

One of these two teams will play in the ECF, but only team I'd rank behind them left is Edmonton.

It's a shame they pissed away this one when it was right there, but still a very winnable series.
They did this shit under AV  
Costy16 : 5/18/2022 10:09 pm : link
Sitting on leads and not attacking. It’s absolutely inexcusable.
And BTW, no need to play Reaves in this series  
Anakim : 5/18/2022 10:11 pm : link
He's not going to do shit and his skating is a liability against a fast Hurricanes team. Put in Brod or even Hunt. Reaves is a waste in this series.


And Kakko had two of the best opportunities of the night. One was a wide open net and the other he couldn't even get a fucking shot off. That's sickening.
I’m no hockey expert, but if there’s no offensive player  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/18/2022 10:13 pm : link
threatening in front of the net, shouldn’t the defender GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE GOALTENDER’S WAY??!? Guy like that has to know better.

That loss sucked because they should’ve been up 2 or 3 going into the third. Picked a poor time for the return of the David Quinn “Can’t clear the puck out of the zone” Rangers.

The Kids line and Zibby had all of their best chances. It would be nice if someone on that second line showed the fuck up. My patience with Panarin is paper thin.
RE: They did this shit under AV  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/18/2022 10:15 pm : link
In comment 15712940 Costy16 said:
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Sitting on leads and not attacking. It’s absolutely inexcusable.


Can’t attack if you can’t clear the puck out of the zone or get past the red line without turning the puck over.
And way too many no-shows  
Anakim : 5/18/2022 10:15 pm : link
From Panarin to Copp to Vatrano to Strome. Just a game that really pissed me off. You play well for two periods and then you decide to tighten up and play not to lose. How many shots did we even have in the third? Raanta could've taken a nap back there.
RE: the kakko play  
Percy : 5/18/2022 10:15 pm : link
In comment 15712936 Mook80 said:
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happens. It's unfortunate and he'll bury that 99 times out of 100 but that was unfortunately the one time. The bigger problem was the tying goal no coverage whatsoever by anyone to be there to take away the rebound attempt, that was a lack of effort.

One of these two teams will play in the ECF, but only team I'd rank behind them left is Edmonton.

It's a shame they pissed away this one when it was right there, but still a very winnable series.


Even very good players sometimes blow open net shots like this one. Kakko is very good. The lack of effort looking for a rebound, however, was inexplicable.

Sure, the series can still be won, but they are going to have to play the same sharp way for three good periods, not two.

@#$% Zibanejad  
mvftw : 5/18/2022 10:17 pm : link
Had him 2.5+ shots on goal...4 times in the slot and no shots...
RE: And way too many no-shows  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/18/2022 10:18 pm : link
In comment 15712945 Anakim said:
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From Panarin to Copp to Vatrano to Strome..


Three of them were non existent and Panarin was only noticeable for the wrong reasons.
RE: RE: They did this shit under AV  
MetsAreBack : 5/18/2022 10:21 pm : link
In comment 15712944 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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In comment 15712940 Costy16 said:


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Sitting on leads and not attacking. It’s absolutely inexcusable.



Can’t attack if you can’t clear the puck out of the zone or get past the red line without turning the puck over.


They weren’t even trying. Throwing pucks 25 feet in the air off clean face off wins at center ice, with the puck in their possession and no defenders around them…. That has to be strategy, they didn’t do it first two periods. Coaches had to have told them not to take any risks an entire 3rd period. I vehemently disagree witht that mindset especially considering how young this team is.

Mook - Carolina isnt the 6th team left in this tournament, cmon now. There’s no metric that says St. Louis is better than them. And I’m certain they’ll go toe to toe with Tampa (or Florida but I think Tampas in a lot of heads by now)
Its not strategy  
Snablats : 5/18/2022 10:23 pm : link
The players did this several times this season, and every time Gallant called them out in the postgame presser. Carolina raised their urgency and intensity and the Rangers didnt respond, then tried to not lose. They stopped skating and didnt meet the raised urgency of Carolina

Kakko was slashed on the hands on that chance he didnt get a shot off, shoulda been a penalty

And on the tying goal Miller did a fly-by of the guy at the point, then stopped skating and watched. Look at the replay

Top 2 lines were zeroes tonight
Lindgren  
Mook80 : 5/18/2022 10:28 pm : link
just had a big time mental lapse. Your stick cant be in that position in front of the goalie with no offensive player near you. Simply can't happen, but he was gassed and being physically tired often leads to mental mistakes.

MAB  
Mook80 : 5/18/2022 10:34 pm : link
You're probably right about the Blues. I'd still call that series a coin flip if they played but more so because I just haven't been all that impressed by the Hurricanes in these playoffs. They were total dogshit in Boston. Rangers were easily the better team for 2 periods tonight. Carolina was great in the 3rd, but I don't see a stanley cup winner in either the Rangers or Carolina.

Without even thinking twice I'd take Colorado, Florida, Tampa and Calgary over both teams.
RE: if we're being honest  
BrettNYG10 : 5/18/2022 10:39 pm : link
In comment 15712914 Mook80 said:
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these two teams might be the 6th and 7th best teams left in the playoffs.

Not impressed by either one


I'd rank CAR a little higher but I'd point out the gap between the best and worst of these teams is so small. I think COL is a a little ahead of the other seven but the East in particular is super close.
Panarin was not only invisible,  
FrankHuntington : 5/18/2022 10:58 pm : link
But looked terrified with the puck.....again.


Aside from scoring the series winner by throwing the puck at a massive screen, what has he done thats been a positive?

I guess Kreider has decided to not post up in front of the net any more?

Just a big time let down from our two best scorers.

Panarin looks petrified with the puck out there.
As someone who lived in Miami for 4 years  
MetsAreBack : 5/18/2022 11:01 pm : link
I’m just not a believer in Florida at all

Nice regular season, good talent - but they haven’t been there before and while they made some nice deadline deals, we know as rangers fans those moves rarely have enough time chemistry wise to make a difference

Fully expect Tampa Carolina Calgary and Colorado to advance. No idea who wins of those 4 but I don’t know why Carolina would be ranked below any of them. They are very solid

They should have won tonight - played turtle for some reason in the third period. And Kakko missed a gimme. I can forgive the latter, the former is very concerning especially considering how young this team is - they should relish the moment, who cares if they fuck up.. they learn and grow. They weren’t given that chance tonight because someone decided to neuter them
RE: Its not strategy  
FrankHuntington : 5/18/2022 11:01 pm : link
In comment 15712953 Snablats said:
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The players did this several times this season, and every time Gallant called them out in the postgame presser. Carolina raised their urgency and intensity and the Rangers didnt respond, then tried to not lose. They stopped skating and didnt meet the raised urgency of Carolina

Kakko was slashed on the hands on that chance he didnt get a shot off, shoulda been a penalty

And on the tying goal Miller did a fly-by of the guy at the point, then stopped skating and watched. Look at the replay

Top 2 lines were zeroes tonight


You are relentlessly dumb with your posts.

1) That was not a slash on Kaako. If they called that on the Rangers, you would be whining about that

2) Miller was the best defender on the ice for the Rangers tonight....and it wasn't close.



You have never played this game, and it is apparent. Maybe stop talking for a while....or maybe forever.
RE: Can someone tell me why Mika is a 1C  
FrankHuntington : 5/18/2022 11:02 pm : link
In comment 15712877 jgambrosio said:
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When you can't win a single faceoff?


This is highly concerning and there is no end in sight. Really unless some dumb shit team trades us a legit Center for Lunduist.
RE: RE: Its not strategy  
Snablats : 5/18/2022 11:25 pm : link
In comment 15712972 FrankHuntington said:
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In comment 15712953 Snablats said:


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The players did this several times this season, and every time Gallant called them out in the postgame presser. Carolina raised their urgency and intensity and the Rangers didnt respond, then tried to not lose. They stopped skating and didnt meet the raised urgency of Carolina

Kakko was slashed on the hands on that chance he didnt get a shot off, shoulda been a penalty

And on the tying goal Miller did a fly-by of the guy at the point, then stopped skating and watched. Look at the replay

Top 2 lines were zeroes tonight



You are relentlessly dumb with your posts.

1) That was not a slash on Kaako. If they called that on the Rangers, you would be whining about that

2) Miller was the best defender on the ice for the Rangers tonight....and it wasn't close.



You have never played this game, and it is apparent. Maybe stop talking for a while....or maybe forever.

It was a clear slash on Kakko, the guy's stick whacked Kakko on the hands

Miller had good moments, which I posted about. But he was really bad on the tying goal

You are the dumbass telling us during Game 7 that the Rangers should trade Panarin, that you would rather keep Copp and Vatrano instead of Panarin

You are an idiot
RE: RE: RE: Its not strategy  
FrankHuntington : 5/18/2022 11:35 pm : link
In comment 15712980 Snablats said:
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In comment 15712972 FrankHuntington said:


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In comment 15712953 Snablats said:


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The players did this several times this season, and every time Gallant called them out in the postgame presser. Carolina raised their urgency and intensity and the Rangers didnt respond, then tried to not lose. They stopped skating and didnt meet the raised urgency of Carolina

Kakko was slashed on the hands on that chance he didnt get a shot off, shoulda been a penalty

And on the tying goal Miller did a fly-by of the guy at the point, then stopped skating and watched. Look at the replay

Top 2 lines were zeroes tonight



You are relentlessly dumb with your posts.

1) That was not a slash on Kaako. If they called that on the Rangers, you would be whining about that

2) Miller was the best defender on the ice for the Rangers tonight....and it wasn't close.



You have never played this game, and it is apparent. Maybe stop talking for a while....or maybe forever.


It was a clear slash on Kakko, the guy's stick whacked Kakko on the hands

Miller had good moments, which I posted about. But he was really bad on the tying goal

You are the dumbass telling us during Game 7 that the Rangers should trade Panarin, that you would rather keep Copp and Vatrano instead of Panarin

You are an idiot


No, I never said I thought that they should trade him. I said I would listen mostly because of the financial bind we are about to be in with new contracts coming up. Which is actually how teams stay ahead of cap issues. So YOU'RE dumb.

What else did Panarin do in that series that justifies 10 mill a year that was better than what Miller has done as a 22 year old?

That "slash" while technically was a slash would have been VERY ticky tack if called on the Rangers. But I could understand your not understanding that.

I'm an idiot? You routinely show up on threads where EVERYBODY calls you out for saying stupid things and then make the dumbest takes about hockey, and then call other people idiots.

Hey IDIOT, did you see what happened when the Rangers played dump and chase tonight?????

Again, I get that you know very little about hockey other than what Barry Melrose has barked at you for years, but you have been DEAD WRONG about every aspect of the Rangers play, have called out other posters as being whiny when you lend zero insight to the conversation.

Sure, lets dump and chase to a faster team and limit Miller's minutes. Lmao. What a joke.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Its not strategy  
Snablats : 5/18/2022 11:45 pm : link
In comment 15712982 FrankHuntington said:
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In comment 15712980 Snablats said:


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In comment 15712972 FrankHuntington said:


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In comment 15712953 Snablats said:


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The players did this several times this season, and every time Gallant called them out in the postgame presser. Carolina raised their urgency and intensity and the Rangers didnt respond, then tried to not lose. They stopped skating and didnt meet the raised urgency of Carolina

Kakko was slashed on the hands on that chance he didnt get a shot off, shoulda been a penalty

And on the tying goal Miller did a fly-by of the guy at the point, then stopped skating and watched. Look at the replay

Top 2 lines were zeroes tonight



You are relentlessly dumb with your posts.

1) That was not a slash on Kaako. If they called that on the Rangers, you would be whining about that

2) Miller was the best defender on the ice for the Rangers tonight....and it wasn't close.



You have never played this game, and it is apparent. Maybe stop talking for a while....or maybe forever.


It was a clear slash on Kakko, the guy's stick whacked Kakko on the hands

Miller had good moments, which I posted about. But he was really bad on the tying goal

You are the dumbass telling us during Game 7 that the Rangers should trade Panarin, that you would rather keep Copp and Vatrano instead of Panarin

You are an idiot



No, I never said I thought that they should trade him. I said I would listen mostly because of the financial bind we are about to be in with new contracts coming up. Which is actually how teams stay ahead of cap issues. So YOU'RE dumb.

What else did Panarin do in that series that justifies 10 mill a year that was better than what Miller has done as a 22 year old?

That "slash" while technically was a slash would have been VERY ticky tack if called on the Rangers. But I could understand your not understanding that.

I'm an idiot? You routinely show up on threads where EVERYBODY calls you out for saying stupid things and then make the dumbest takes about hockey, and then call other people idiots.

Hey IDIOT, did you see what happened when the Rangers played dump and chase tonight?????

Again, I get that you know very little about hockey other than what Barry Melrose has barked at you for years, but you have been DEAD WRONG about every aspect of the Rangers play, have called out other posters as being whiny when you lend zero insight to the conversation.

Sure, lets dump and chase to a faster team and limit Miller's minutes. Lmao. What a joke.

And when I ask what I have been wrong about, no one responds

And I have been right about Miller and the Rangers play. Not my fault you cant keep up. And now you try to backtrack on your Panarin stupidity

You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how amazingly clueless it is
Their offense,  
Joe Beckwith : 5/18/2022 11:48 pm : link
not just scoring but up-ice passing and setup, has been just so tentative during the playoffs.
Nothing like about 90% of the regular season.
Ok.....whatever  
FrankHuntington : 5/18/2022 11:57 pm : link
Literally, nobody takes anything you say seriously yet you make it seem like you are right all the time. Everything I have read and heard contradicts your asinine hatred for Miller. Every single stat and critic of the game has said the same thing I have about Panarin.

But you know better. You challenged my knowledge of the game yet I KNOW I have played the game longer and at a higher level than you have. Some of the most respected hockey posters on this site have contradicted your "dump and chase" theory as the best way to win this series and yet you plod on in your oblivious dream of self importance on a message board by talking down to people who obviously know a lot more about the sport than you do, and in doing so, resort to calling them names....even despite being wrong on virtually all of them.

I amturning the page and am now completely done engaging with you because you are not qorth my time nor energy to spell out the fairly obvious.

Wow, to see you double down is excruciating.
Oh  
FrankHuntington : 5/19/2022 12:03 am : link
And Miller/Trouba have the best +/- of all the defensemen and Miller trails only Fox in D points.


So you dont know shit. Par for the course whenever I see your stupid handle.
Snab  
Anakim : 5/19/2022 12:11 am : link
I have to agree with Frank here. Your constant harping on K'Andre is very odd.
I said earlier today  
Snablats : 5/19/2022 12:19 am : link
that I mentioned the dump and chase because posters here were saying Carolina's D was a fast, puck moving D. And in fact the Rangers had their success tonight playing straight line, north-south hockey

Again, you are wrong on Miller, but thats your opinion. You think you know more about hockey because you played in high school? I didnt play in high school, but I was a hockey play-by-play man for 12 years, a coach of various sports for 30 years, a PE teacher for 15 years, and a sportscaster for 25 years - including 11 years at national sportsradio networks. I know far more about sports than you do

You sound like the twitter idiots who kept telling me Quinn was right in having his D back into the goalie's lap, that they played hockey and were taught to never stand up at the blue line. Gallant gets here and the first thing the D does is start standing up at the blue line

You have your opinions, like saying the Rangers should keep Copp and Vatrano instead of Panarin, and I have mine. Move on




RE: Snab  
Snablats : 5/19/2022 12:23 am : link
In comment 15712995 Anakim said:
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I have to agree with Frank here. Your constant harping on K'Andre is very odd.

Excuse me? Mr overreation is chiming in? Miller is bad in his own zone and doesnt play with the needed urgency and intensity in the playoffs. You think it was ok that he didnt even try to stop Malkin on his breakaway? And gave a crappy, regular season game in November effort on the next breakaway goal? His two hits tonight on the one shift I applauded on this thread. Unfortunately those were his first hits of the playoffs. I react to dumbasses who say Miller is playing so well
Lol,  
FrankHuntington : 5/19/2022 12:34 am : link
Anak.... Dont waste your time. Im trying to keep it civil, but his posts are so poorly informed, supported and dumb that I really cant take them seriously any more.

Dump and chase! Kill Miller!
THEY DIDN'T GET POSITIVE RESULTS WITH DUMP AND CHASE!!!!!  
FrankHuntington : 5/19/2022 12:47 am : link
They scored their goal and got the best opportunities with 2 or 3 guys entering the zone and moving the puck. They dumped (cycled) at the end of shifts!

Truth told, neither of the top 2 lines really did anything with the puck outside of firing the puck into congested paths to the net and were subsequently repelled. I don't know what the game is you are watching, but we were trying to carry in the whole game! Difference is, the KIDS were the only successful ones at it. Line 1 was in La La land again. Line 2 relies on Panarin and it wasnt him really spearheading it, although he got the puck to Copp a few times (Strome looked drunk) and the 4th line had some success with the dump because Motte was all over the place.

That was the game plan theough 2 periods. Period 3, they tried to hack and chase and got beaten to almost every puck.

Keep up the good work Brockmire. Ugh. Just disappear
Why do you think so many people posted praise for Miller  
Snablats : 5/19/2022 1:28 am : link
For his two hits on the one shift? It's because he never hits anyone
RE: Its not strategy  
Costy16 : 5/19/2022 5:52 am : link
In comment 15712953 Snablats said:
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The players did this several times this season, and every time Gallant called them out in the postgame presser. Carolina raised their urgency and intensity and the Rangers didnt respond, then tried to not lose. They stopped skating and didnt meet the raised urgency of Carolina

Kakko was slashed on the hands on that chance he didnt get a shot off, shoulda been a penalty

And on the tying goal Miller did a fly-by of the guy at the point, then stopped skating and watched. Look at the replay

Top 2 lines were zeroes tonight


Yep, Miller had no business being in that position. Trouba took his own man and if Miller hadn’t floated into no man’s land up near the blue line that goal doesn’t happen.!
The tying goal isn’t on Miller.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/19/2022 6:14 am : link
It’s on Panarin and Zibby not busting it back. If they get back, Trouba never has to come off of Aho in the first place.
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