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NYG sign DE Jalyn Holmes and S Henry Black

Anakim : 5/18/2022 12:21 pm
Aaron Wilson
@AaronWilson_NFL

Giants signed defensive end Jalyn Holmes, safety Henry Black and cornerbacks Maurice Canady and Khalil Dorsey.
were there cuts as well?  
Del Shofner : 5/18/2022 12:22 pm : link
.
Four  
AcidTest : 5/18/2022 12:23 pm : link
players now have to be cut. I assume they will be UDFAs.
Holmes was a decent prospect from OSU  
Eric on Li : 5/18/2022 12:24 pm : link
not explosive but an overachiever type.
I had to google  
Big Blue '56 : 5/18/2022 12:25 pm : link
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Holmes  
Mike in NY : 5/18/2022 12:25 pm : link
From 2018-2021 played for Andre Patterson in Minnesota.

Black played all 17 games for Green Bay last year, but they did not tender him a contract as ERFA making him a UFA.
RE: Holmes was a decent prospect from OSU  
Klaatu : 5/18/2022 12:26 pm : link
In comment 15712368 Eric on Li said:
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not explosive but an overachiever type.


Played a few years in Minnesota, so Patterson's probably familiar with him. Didn't do much in NO last year.
RE: Four  
Anakim : 5/18/2022 12:27 pm : link
In comment 15712367 AcidTest said:
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players now have to be cut. I assume they will be UDFAs.


Zack Rosenblatt
@ZackBlatt

The #Giants also signed DE Jalyn Holmes and S Henry Black.

They cut OLB Trent Harris, QB Brian Lewerke, DE Raymond Johnson and DB Jordan Mosley.
I think the bottom fourth of this roster is going to churn  
Ben in Tampa : 5/18/2022 12:28 pm : link
like crazy the next few months
RE: RE: Four  
Mike in NY : 5/18/2022 12:29 pm : link
In comment 15712373 Anakim said:
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In comment 15712367 AcidTest said:


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players now have to be cut. I assume they will be UDFAs.



Zack Rosenblatt
@ZackBlatt

The #Giants also signed DE Jalyn Holmes and S Henry Black.

They cut OLB Trent Harris, QB Brian Lewerke, DE Raymond Johnson and DB Jordan Mosley.


That was quick for Mosley
RE: RE: Four  
AcidTest : 5/18/2022 12:35 pm : link
In comment 15712373 Anakim said:
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In comment 15712367 AcidTest said:


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players now have to be cut. I assume they will be UDFAs.



Zack Rosenblatt
@ZackBlatt

The #Giants also signed DE Jalyn Holmes and S Henry Black.

They cut OLB Trent Harris, QB Brian Lewerke, DE Raymond Johnson and DB Jordan Mosley.


Already culling veterans. A little surprised Johnson was cut right now.
Expect a few pick ups on cut down day too  
Payasdaddy : 5/18/2022 12:40 pm : link
We are high on waiver wire also
Hopefully enough rookies look good enough to keep instead
Henry black  
Straw Hat : 5/18/2022 12:55 pm : link
Forced a fumble on david johnson, and picked off kyler murray. Cant be all bad.
When Zimmer/Spielman cleaned house after the defense tanked in 2020...  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/18/2022 12:57 pm : link
...Holmes was among the many casualties, along with Ifeadi Odenigbo, who pocketed $1MM for attending camp with the Giants.

The Viking defense didn't improve much, BTW.
here was Sy on holmes  
Eric on Li : 5/18/2022 12:57 pm : link
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8 – Jalyn Holmes – Ohio State – 6’5/283

Grade: 75

Strong Points:

-Has the NFL ready frame and power presence right now
-Flashes an array of developed rush moves
-When the light is on, his impact is near top notch when he punches the blocker

¬Weak Points:

-Inconsistent all around when it comes to production and effort
-Urgency and quick reactions aren’t there
-Pad level gets too high, makes him an easy target

Summary:

Senior that struggled to get a ton of playing time because of the overcrowded defensive line at OSU. Holmes gets people excited because of what he would flash on a weekly to bi-weekly basis. His size and short area burst is enough to send power blockers back a couple steps. He has also shown the ability to rip under blockers and make plays in the backfield. I think if he played a little lighter, 10-15 pounds, he could be a terror. He could break out in the NFL if he ever gets more consistent snaps, but at the same time his intensity needs to be there no matter what when his number is called, something I didn’t always see in college.

NFL Comparison: Cameron Jordan / NO
Raymond Johnson  
M.S. : 5/18/2022 1:07 pm : link

was the prior regime's UDFA signing, so Schoem and Daboll have zero loyalty to the guy.

But remember the name: Raymond Johnson III. Just gotta feeling he'll end up somewhere and turn into a fairly decent player.
Just remember  
M.S. : 5/18/2022 1:08 pm : link

these signings are all on the fringe.

And that is the "fringe" of a fringe team.
I wonder  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/18/2022 2:05 pm : link
how much - if any - the new pro personnel guys had on these signings. Obviously, Wink's connections had more to do with the former Ravens' guys.

Chris Rossetti is the new director of pro scouting.

Dennis Hickey is the new assistant director of player personnel.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/18/2022 2:12 pm : link
Art Stapleton

@art_stapleton
Holmes, a fourth-round pick out of Ohio State, has played along the defensive front. Had some success with Giants DL coach Andre Patterson in Minnesota when he moved to 3-technique, but best fit here could be as DE in 3-4 front.
BTW  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/18/2022 2:29 pm : link
Black is another player whose team chose not to tender him as an exclusive rights free agent.
Andre Patterson  
Jay on the Island : 5/18/2022 3:15 pm : link
must've pushed for the Giants to bring in Holmes. He will have a decent shot of winning a backup DE spot because the Giants are very thin there.
Don't think this is a surprise  
DavidinBMNY : 5/18/2022 3:41 pm : link
Come out of camp, and say X,Y,Z is better fits for our system, these guys A,B,C are not going to fit.

Don't have an opinion on it. None of the players involved are more then backups / special teams players. Not surprised, but interested.
Holmes is interesting to me  
Breeze_94 : 5/18/2022 4:50 pm : link
has a very good chance to win a rotational role on the DL. Played alot of snaps for Vikings in 2020. Only 26, has ideal length and athleticism for a 280+ lb Dlineman- theres at least a chance he becomes more than a JAG.

I  
Toth029 : 5/18/2022 9:32 pm : link
Liked Johnson but he's not a fit.

Plus he just had 1 pressure last year. Lacking in pass rush for a DL in any scheme will hurt you unless you're a tank against the run game.

Holmes seems like a kid who's been fine and never splashing. But he's familiar with Patterson.
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