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Giants waive four players

nyjuggernaut2 : 5/18/2022 12:28 pm
Trent Harris, Raymond Johnson, Brian Lewerke and Jordan Mosely. Just got an alert from their app regarding the moves.
I guess they saw enough of the MD saftey  
ZogZerg : 5/18/2022 12:33 pm : link
in a couple of days to cut him.
Only  
AcidTest : 5/18/2022 12:34 pm : link
one is a UDFA. Thought they all would be. A little surprised Johnson was waived now.
RE: I guess they saw enough of the MD saftey  
Anakim : 5/18/2022 12:36 pm : link
In comment 15712384 ZogZerg said:
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in a couple of days to cut him.


He was waived-injured, FWIW, so he might've just failed his physical.


Surprised about Raymond Johnson III. He flashed a bit last year.
Edge is one position where the Patriots prototype is  
JonC : 5/18/2022 12:42 pm : link
very different to my eye than a Ravens' Edge, expecting a number of changes at Edge, and Ojulari will be tested to play a different game moving forward.
Only head scratcher is Raymond Johnson  
beatrixkiddo : 5/18/2022 12:48 pm : link
Felt with such a weak unit he would be decent depth this year, maybe he doesn’t fit the system? Certainly think there are others behind him that offer less.
I guess Schoen looked  
Bill in UT : 5/18/2022 12:50 pm : link
good enough in practice the other day for them to cut Lewerke
RE: I guess Schoen looked  
rich in DC : 5/18/2022 1:01 pm : link
In comment 15712407 Bill in UT said:
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good enough in practice the other day for them to cut Lewerke


I guess they figured that if they need arms in camp, Schoen cab always step in!
Raymond Johnson?  
M.S. : 5/18/2022 1:03 pm : link

Wow... I thought he was a very promising UDFA last year.

But he was the last regime's guy and neither Schoen nor Daboll have any loyalty to Robert Johnson.

That's the way of the NFL.
Jordan Mosely  
George from PA : 5/18/2022 1:06 pm : link
It was nice knowing you
No offense but Raymond Johnson  
jvm52106 : 5/18/2022 1:49 pm : link
Didn't do anything that would make me have concerns over the decision making. Harris was a costly vet with no upside and doesn't really fit the scheme.

Watch for Roche to get the heave ho this summer too. Just doesn't fit the edge position in this type of 3/4.
Loyalty as a reason for waiving?  
Rod in St Cloud : 5/18/2022 2:02 pm : link
I would hope we're not cutting guys just because they were from a previous regime. It would seem to me that the best position to take for any new regime is to keep the best players whenever possible aside from injury concerns and monetary reasons. I would think Daboll wouldn't cut someone without good reason. I'm sure he must have watched tape on all these players. You have to keep the players that make for the best team. That should be the primary goal of any good regime. If you believe otherwise, then you must not think the new regime has the Giants' best interests at heart!
According to Giants.com  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/18/2022 2:07 pm : link
Mosley was waived/injured.
RE: Loyalty as a reason for waiving?  
M.S. : 5/18/2022 2:11 pm : link
In comment 15712461 Rod in St Cloud said:
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I would hope we're not cutting guys just because they were from a previous regime. It would seem to me that the best position to take for any new regime is to keep the best players whenever possible aside from injury concerns and monetary reasons. I would think Daboll wouldn't cut someone without good reason. I'm sure he must have watched tape on all these players. You have to keep the players that make for the best team. That should be the primary goal of any good regime. If you believe otherwise, then you must not think the new regime has the Giants' best interests at heart!

When it comes to the back end of the roster, I think a lot of decisions are simply made on which coaches are familiar with which players. The current regime has no ties to Raymond Johnson, no experience of having him play for someone... and, so, it's pretty easy to give him the heave-ho.

As for Daboll watching tape of Raymond Johnson. Maybe he did, but IMO more goes into cuts like this than just the tape. Johnson is not Daboll's guy... nor anyone else's guy. He's a fringe player and coaches tend to bring in fringe players they are familiar with, rather than keeping a fringe player from a former, de-frocked regime.
RE: RE: Loyalty as a reason for waiving?  
Mike in NY : 5/18/2022 2:21 pm : link
In comment 15712467 M.S. said:
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I would hope we're not cutting guys just because they were from a previous regime. It would seem to me that the best position to take for any new regime is to keep the best players whenever possible aside from injury concerns and monetary reasons. I would think Daboll wouldn't cut someone without good reason. I'm sure he must have watched tape on all these players. You have to keep the players that make for the best team. That should be the primary goal of any good regime. If you believe otherwise, then you must not think the new regime has the Giants' best interests at heart!


When it comes to the back end of the roster, I think a lot of decisions are simply made on which coaches are familiar with which players. The current regime has no ties to Raymond Johnson, no experience of having him play for someone... and, so, it's pretty easy to give him the heave-ho.

As for Daboll watching tape of Raymond Johnson. Maybe he did, but IMO more goes into cuts like this than just the tape. Johnson is not Daboll's guy... nor anyone else's guy. He's a fringe player and coaches tend to bring in fringe players they are familiar with, rather than keeping a fringe player from a former, de-frocked regime.


Johnson was one of the highest ranked UDFA's we signed after 2021 draft so Schoen and Brown probably were involved in some discussion of him with prior franchises. There were a few holdovers from last year's staff. Although none coached the DL, I am sure they probably had some knowledge. It would not make sense for a DC to gameplan in a vacuum without getting staff together to discuss strengths and weaknesses of available players.
I guess we'll never see Beavers Love Johnson  
Lurts : 5/18/2022 2:45 pm : link
standing together on the sideline.

Sad.
RE: I guess we'll never see Beavers Love Johnson  
Del Shofner : 5/18/2022 2:52 pm : link
In comment 15712496 Lurts said:
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standing together on the sideline.

Sad.


There's still WR Collin Johnson...
RE: RE: I guess they saw enough of the MD saftey  
Maryland Blows : 5/18/2022 3:39 pm : link
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in a couple of days to cut him.



He was waived-injured, FWIW, so he might've just failed his physical.


Surprised about Raymond Johnson III. He flashed a bit last year.


No reason to bring anyone in from Maryland their program sucks!
RE: RE: RE: I guess they saw enough of the MD saftey  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/18/2022 6:22 pm : link
In comment 15712534 Maryland Blows said:
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in a couple of days to cut him.



He was waived-injured, FWIW, so he might've just failed his physical.


Surprised about Raymond Johnson III. He flashed a bit last year.



No reason to bring anyone in from Maryland their program sucks!

It's always a hotly contested title, but I think you've done enough to cement your legacy as the most useless poster on BBI.
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