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UDFA Contracts

Pepe LePugh : 5/18/2022 11:51 pm
Who got the best contracts, thus best bets to make the team? Per OTC:

Mbaeteka has guaranteed salary of $207K. That’s about 25% more than 18 weeks on PS, I think.
Corbin has $100K salary guaranteed, plus $10K signing bonus.
Truesdell $60K salary plus $15K bonus.
Hall $15K salary, $15K bonus.

The rest are all rookie minimum ($705K) with no guarantees.

Not that the amounts are huge, but it does seem odd to me to think of UDFAs potentially creating dead money against the cap.
Most all are camp fodder I'd think  
SGMen : 5/18/2022 11:57 pm : link
I don't see many sticking though PS is possible for many.
Truesdale failed his physical and wasn't signed  
Anakim : 5/19/2022 12:08 am : link
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All that money is accounted for before they even sign one UDRFA  
ZogZerg : 5/19/2022 6:51 am : link
That money is peanuts and not something you consider once camp starts. If some of the guys make it, great.
RE: All that money is accounted for before they even sign one UDRFA  
Pepe LePugh : 5/19/2022 7:25 am : link
In comment 15713020 ZogZerg said:
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That money is peanuts and not something you consider once camp starts. If some of the guys make it, great.


Not trying to say that the money is significant. I just find it interesting to see how they value these prospects coming into camp. Truesdell surprised me, as I hadn’t seen him rated anywhere near as high as Corker, Hinton, and others. That contract is active on OTC, so don’t know about failed physical.
RE: RE: All that money is accounted for before they even sign one UDRFA  
Mike in NY : 5/19/2022 7:29 am : link
In comment 15713029 Pepe LePugh said:
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In comment 15713020 ZogZerg said:


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That money is peanuts and not something you consider once camp starts. If some of the guys make it, great.



Not trying to say that the money is significant. I just find it interesting to see how they value these prospects coming into camp. Truesdell surprised me, as I hadn’t seen him rated anywhere near as high as Corker, Hinton, and others. That contract is active on OTC, so don’t know about failed physical.


OTC is sometimes slow to update. Even before rookie camp it was made clear that he failed physical. Truesdell got more had he been healthy because there just aren’t many 3-4 NT types in college game (due to all of spread and gimmick offenses) and plenty of teams play that scheme in NFL. Supply and demand.
Mbaeteka  
Biteymax22 : 5/19/2022 8:34 am : link
contract is interesting. A lot of money for a developmental guy, no international exemption used. Either you're using a roster spot on him or really banking he clears waivers for the practice squad, which although likely, is always a gamble.
Seems Mbaeteka‘s contract might guarantee him a spot  
BillT : 5/19/2022 8:54 am : link
I’m not sure but it seems they could have given him an international exemption and they chose not to. The 3 year deal says they like him and want to keep him and might not want to expose him to wavers. Hard to tell.
Bitey, didn’t see your post  
BillT : 5/19/2022 8:56 am : link
But obviously agree.
I can understand giving out small signing bonuses but I have never  
Ivan15 : 5/19/2022 8:59 am : link
Understood guaranteed salaries for UDFAs, unless they are contingent on the player at least making it to the practice squad.
Daboll  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/19/2022 9:00 am : link
threw a lot water on the possibility of Mbaeteka being a factor in a press conference last week. We all knew this was likely, but I was surprised how negative he was with the press about it.
RE: Bitey, didn’t see your post  
Biteymax22 : 5/19/2022 9:22 am : link
In comment 15713069 BillT said:
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But obviously agree.


Its a very interesting scenario for sure, I'm sure a lot of us are thinking the same thing.
Mbaeteka  
Mike in NY : 5/19/2022 9:31 am : link
PS for 18 weeks is $165,600 so the Giants basically gave him $41,400 signing bonus if they keep him on PS for 18 weeks. Considering what high end UDFA's signed for in terms of signing bonuses, that is not out of line with the expanded PS making it easier to stash a guy.
RE: I can understand giving out small signing bonuses but I have never  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/19/2022 9:38 am : link
Ivan15 said:
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Understood guaranteed salaries for UDFAs, unless they are contingent on the player at least making it to the practice squad.
With offset language, the team seldom ends up on the hook for much. Most UDFAs who get significant salary guarantees land at least on a practice squad somewhere, for long enough to pay down the guarantee.

As for Mbaeteka’s guarantee, $207K exactly equals 18 weeks on the practice squad at the 2022 base pay of $11.5K per week for a player with no prior NFL experience. So the plan for him seems pretty clear, unless he wildly exceeds expectations in the next three months.
RE: RE: I can understand giving out small signing bonuses but I have never  
Mike in NY : 5/19/2022 9:39 am : link
In comment 15713116 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Ivan15 said:

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Understood guaranteed salaries for UDFAs, unless they are contingent on the player at least making it to the practice squad.

With offset language, the team seldom ends up on the hook for much. Most UDFAs who get significant salary guarantees land at least on a practice squad somewhere, for long enough to pay down the guarantee.

As for Mbaeteka’s guarantee, $207K exactly equals 18 weeks on the practice squad at the 2022 base pay of $11.5K per week for a player with no prior NFL experience. So the plan for him seems pretty clear, unless he wildly exceeds expectations in the next three months.


Yes you are correct. I accidentally was using 2021 numbers.
Mike in NY: I think you are using 2021 numbers.  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/19/2022 9:40 am : link
Practice Squad base pay rises to $11.5K/week this year.
RE: Daboll  
Jay on the Island : 5/19/2022 9:57 am : link
In comment 15713072 Eric from BBI said:
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threw a lot water on the possibility of Mbaeteka being a factor in a press conference last week. We all knew this was likely, but I was surprised how negative he was with the press about it.

I was surprised that some fans expected MBaeteka to make the roster this season. He will certainly make the PS if he shows progress during training camp but the Giants cannot keep a player who won't be ready to play this season as depth.

I loved the signing when the Giants made it and I still do but MBaeteka is as raw as they come. Hopefully the Giants found the next Jordan Mailata but even Mailata didn't play year one. Keep in mind that Mailata was farther along thatn MBaeteka because he was a rugby player so at least he had some organized sport background.
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