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section125 : 5/19/2022 12:48 pm
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Bah  
Greg from LI : 5/19/2022 3:19 pm : link
LeMahieu has been pretty cold the last few weeks
gah  
Greg from LI : 5/19/2022 3:21 pm : link
Judge GIDP
welp, we know why Green's been struggling  
Greg from LI : 5/19/2022 3:25 pm : link
The dreaded forearm tightness. Next stop, TJS most likely.
RE: welp, we know why Green's been struggling  
section125 : 5/19/2022 3:30 pm : link
In comment 15713681 Greg from LI said:
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The dreaded forearm tightness. Next stop, TJS most likely.


He was very, very good last outing. I wouldn't call what he was doing struggling. Couple bad ones..

Hope it isn't the big one.
One more time with  
section125 : 5/19/2022 3:31 pm : link
the big guys up.
He was effective last time out, yes  
Greg from LI : 5/19/2022 3:31 pm : link
But I don't think he's been as effective as his numbers would suggest. A lot of noisy outs.
RE: He was effective last time out, yes  
section125 : 5/19/2022 3:34 pm : link
In comment 15713689 Greg from LI said:
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But I don't think he's been as effective as his numbers would suggest. A lot of noisy outs.


Splitting hairs. Outs are outs.

Meanwhile this douche behind the plate has called two strikes on Rizzo 8 inches off the ground.
And another hideous call against Stanton  
Greg from LI : 5/19/2022 3:39 pm : link
Ball was nearly in the dirt. Called strike.
RE: And another hideous call against Stanton  
section125 : 5/19/2022 3:44 pm : link
In comment 15713697 Greg from LI said:
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Ball was nearly in the dirt. Called strike.


Throws out Rizzo blindly.

This is CB Bucknor quality umpiring back there this afternoon.
How can he let Hicks bat here?  
Greg from LI : 5/19/2022 3:46 pm : link
Rizzo got tossed so you are gonna have to bring in Donaldson or Gallo anyway
HIcks strikes out on  
section125 : 5/19/2022 3:49 pm : link
ball four again...

Time to switch to golf.
Hicks is so bad it's incredible.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/19/2022 3:50 pm : link
.
The other  
mitch300 : 5/19/2022 4:02 pm : link
Day of n the post game jack curry mentioned hicks has lost like 15 mph on his throw into the infield. So, he sucks offensivley and sucks defensively.
DJLM tie game!  
Jints in Carolina : 5/19/2022 4:13 pm : link
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A good OF  
Mike from SI : 5/19/2022 4:14 pm : link
makes that play lol but I'll take it!
DJ!!!!!  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/19/2022 4:15 pm : link
.
RE: The other  
The_Boss : 5/19/2022 4:19 pm : link
In comment 15713732 mitch300 said:
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Day of n the post game jack curry mentioned hicks has lost like 15 mph on his throw into the infield. So, he sucks offensivley and sucks defensively.


So..basically totally useless
RE: RE: The other  
mitch300 : 5/19/2022 4:31 pm : link
In comment 15713747 The_Boss said:
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In comment 15713732 mitch300 said:


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Day of n the post game jack curry mentioned hicks has lost like 15 mph on his throw into the infield. So, he sucks offensivley and sucks defensively.



So..basically totally useless

Exactly.
Lucas with his lid off (some may get it)  
Jints in Carolina : 5/19/2022 4:40 pm : link
Yanks lose
Fucking Santander  
Stu11 : 5/19/2022 4:41 pm : link
The guy has like 6 hrs on the season, 5 against us
Yankees need another BP arm  
Giantfan21 : 5/19/2022 4:42 pm : link
Green ( who might be injured anyway ), Loaisiga, Luetge, Chapman are all unreliable this year.

This ones on the pitching.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/19/2022 4:42 pm : link
2 separate 2 run leads should be more than enough to beat the O's.

No biggie, though. Won 3 out of 4 on the road against a division opponent and kept the series win streak alive at 9.
why do the Yankees always make some scrub look like a star?  
Greg from LI : 5/19/2022 4:44 pm : link
Oh well, on to the next series
RE: Yankees need another BP arm  
Del Shofner : 5/19/2022 4:47 pm : link
In comment 15713768 Giantfan21 said:
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Green ( who might be injured anyway ), Loaisiga, Luetge, Chapman are all unreliable this year.


Gil is hurt now too.
Yanks Pen  
Percy : 5/19/2022 4:49 pm : link
Has dents. They need a real, reliable closer and don't have one.
Oh stop it  
Stu11 : 5/19/2022 5:02 pm : link
The Yanks pen has been just about the best in baseball. They had a bad day, it happens. If Green is out Peralta will step into a bigger role. What do they need 8 lock down guys? They have King, Schmidt, Holmes, Castro, you have to figure Loaisiga will come around and as much as we bitch about Chappy he is a good reliever.
RE: Yanks Pen  
bwitz : 5/19/2022 5:05 pm : link
In comment 15713777 Percy said:
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Has dents. They need a real, reliable closer and don't have one.


Huh? Their pen has been the best in baseball.
Seriously, talk about an overreaction  
Greg from LI : 5/19/2022 5:06 pm : link
Almost any team in the league would be glad to swap pens with the Yankees.

Loaisiga's stuff is fine, it's his command that's been spotty. Blake will straighten that out.
Here’s how I envision  
bwitz : 5/19/2022 5:07 pm : link
Boone’s discussion with Hicks went after the game.
Link - ( New Window )
Probably bring back Marinaccio to Replace Green  
LTIsTheGreatest : 5/19/2022 5:15 pm : link
if he goes on the IL
Lucas  
M.S. : 5/19/2022 5:20 pm : link

Luetge!
I still don't think much of Florial  
Greg from LI : 5/19/2022 5:27 pm : link
But if this is what Hicks is now, with a shot arm and a few steps slower in the field, then yeah, might as well bring him up for now. He won't hit much either (tiny sample this year notwithstanding) but he'll at least play a competent CF while they look for someone better.
RE: I still don't think much of Florial  
Matt M. : 5/19/2022 5:33 pm : link
In comment 15713827 Greg from LI said:
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But if this is what Hicks is now, with a shot arm and a few steps slower in the field, then yeah, might as well bring him up for now. He won't hit much either (tiny sample this year notwithstanding) but he'll at least play a competent CF while they look for someone better.
Agreed. Then again, I was a big proponent of this plan last year, which had a lot more to do with my dislike of Hicks and Florial being more of an unknown then. Now, we know Florial isn't going to hit, but as you say, at least he will play a better CF.

I actually prefer Stanton in the OF more, so Florial or Hicks or whomever should only be in the lineup 2-3 days a week.
It sucks, but what  
section125 : 5/19/2022 5:40 pm : link
are you going to do. Just keep on truckin' and win the next series. Winning series is very good.

Hope Green is ok and so is Gil.
RE: Lucas with his lid off (some may get it)  
FrankHuntington : 5/19/2022 5:50 pm : link
In comment 15713766 Jints in Carolina said:
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Yanks lose


Is that from that song "Whatever problem probbles up?"
For those that might have missed it yesterday;  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/19/2022 6:10 pm : link
that's 9 series wins in a row.
RE: RE: I still don't think much of Florial  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/19/2022 6:15 pm : link
In comment 15713836 Matt M. said:
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But if this is what Hicks is now, with a shot arm and a few steps slower in the field, then yeah, might as well bring him up for now. He won't hit much either (tiny sample this year notwithstanding) but he'll at least play a competent CF while they look for someone better.

Agreed. Then again, I was a big proponent of this plan last year, which had a lot more to do with my dislike of Hicks and Florial being more of an unknown then. Now, we know Florial isn't going to hit, but as you say, at least he will play a better CF.

I actually prefer Stanton in the OF more, so Florial or Hicks or whomever should only be in the lineup 2-3 days a week.


I'd like to see more Stanton in the OF, too. I don't think he's nearly as bad as he's painted out to be. Obviously, he can't play out there everyday, but I think he can get alittle more playing time out there than he's been getting.
RE: RE: RE: I still don't think much of Florial  
FrankHuntington : 5/19/2022 9:00 pm : link
In comment 15713871 Dave in Hoboken said:
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But if this is what Hicks is now, with a shot arm and a few steps slower in the field, then yeah, might as well bring him up for now. He won't hit much either (tiny sample this year notwithstanding) but he'll at least play a competent CF while they look for someone better.

Agreed. Then again, I was a big proponent of this plan last year, which had a lot more to do with my dislike of Hicks and Florial being more of an unknown then. Now, we know Florial isn't going to hit, but as you say, at least he will play a better CF.

I actually prefer Stanton in the OF more, so Florial or Hicks or whomever should only be in the lineup 2-3 days a week.



I'd like to see more Stanton in the OF, too. I don't think he's nearly as bad as he's painted out to be. Obviously, he can't play out there everyday, but I think he can get alittle more playing time out there than he's been getting.


Stanton hasnt proved to be a liability at all in RF since they started rotating him regularly. From today it sure looks like Donaldson is more a liability at 3rd than Stanton in Right.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I still don't think much of Florial  
rich in DC : 5/19/2022 9:55 pm : link
In comment 15713958 FrankHuntington said:
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But if this is what Hicks is now, with a shot arm and a few steps slower in the field, then yeah, might as well bring him up for now. He won't hit much either (tiny sample this year notwithstanding) but he'll at least play a competent CF while they look for someone better.

Agreed. Then again, I was a big proponent of this plan last year, which had a lot more to do with my dislike of Hicks and Florial being more of an unknown then. Now, we know Florial isn't going to hit, but as you say, at least he will play a better CF.

I actually prefer Stanton in the OF more, so Florial or Hicks or whomever should only be in the lineup 2-3 days a week.



I'd like to see more Stanton in the OF, too. I don't think he's nearly as bad as he's painted out to be. Obviously, he can't play out there everyday, but I think he can get alittle more playing time out there than he's been getting.



Stanton hasnt proved to be a liability at all in RF since they started rotating him regularly. From today it sure looks like Donaldson is more a liability at 3rd than Stanton in Right.


Do you just enjoy being wrong all the time? Time for BBI to have an ignore feature
You think Donaldson is a better 3B  
FrankHuntington : 5/19/2022 10:07 pm : link
Than Stanton a RF?
RE: You think Donaldson is a better 3B  
rich in DC : 5/19/2022 10:11 pm : link
In comment 15713994 FrankHuntington said:
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Than Stanton a RF?


Yes. Use facts instead of hyperbole.

The link below shows Donaldson is an above average 3B. Where are your facts?
Donaldson stats - ( New Window )
RE: RE: You think Donaldson is a better 3B  
FrankHuntington : 5/19/2022 10:19 pm : link
In comment 15713996 rich in DC said:
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Than Stanton a RF?



Yes. Use facts instead of hyperbole.

The link below shows Donaldson is an above average 3B. Where are your facts? Donaldson stats - ( New Window )


Well admittedly I didnt dive too deep into both's fielding stats, but I was going more off of Stanton being a better all around player when he plays RF and it seems the Yankees have avoided playing Donaldsom at 3rd quite a bit in favor of DJ.

Im sorry, what else was I wrong about? I just dont understand why I am being attacked so much. Sure, I may have jumped right in on the discussions, but I have barely posted about the Yankees.
And the BB Ref link provided  
FrankHuntington : 5/19/2022 10:25 pm : link
Shows that he has played 3rd 22 out of 34 games.....thats kinda what I was referring to. The Yanks have chosen to sit him 1/3 of the time when they needed a 3B and Stanton is a better player as a RF as of recently.

I didnt ignore any facts. They keep Donaldson away from playing third an awful lot for him being so great at 3rd.

RE: And the BB Ref link provided  
rich in DC : 5/19/2022 10:38 pm : link
In comment 15714003 FrankHuntington said:
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Shows that he has played 3rd 22 out of 34 games.....thats kinda what I was referring to. The Yanks have chosen to sit him 1/3 of the time when they needed a 3B and Stanton is a better player as a RF as of recently.

I didnt ignore any facts. They keep Donaldson away from playing third an awful lot for him being so great at 3rd.


This is called gaslighting.

You want to distract from your false claim. So, you claim the yanks are not playing Donaldson 1/3 of the time. Which neatly distracts from the fact that Stanton RARELY plays the field- playing all of 17 games in the OF. Nice try, but you fail again.
Stanton has played RF 17 out of 36 games  
FrankHuntington : 5/19/2022 11:01 pm : link
When they have 4 regular players who play outfield plus Gonzalez, plus Locastro for a bit when he was healthy.

Its not gaslighting at all. I happened to notice that Donaldson DHs an awful lot for being such a trustworthy 3B. He has 2 errors in 22 games at 3rd....which isnt dreadful. But LeMahieu has 0 errors playing 2nd 3rd and 1st playing in 35 games this year. Gleyber (who we all agree is not a great fielder) has 1 error playing 31 games (2 at SS). Now, taking Donalson's current numbers, he makes an error every 11 games he plays the field (I understand its a small sample size using this year).

Dont get me wrong, I dont HATE Donaldson as a 3B, but I didnt gaslight. I just noticed how they are playing him and right now, if he were an every day 3B, he would be on pace for just under 14 errors a year.

Again, while I may not get into the heavy analytics, its just what I notice. Im not trying to start a "don't play JD" campaign.
the rest has nothing to do with fielding capability  
wigs in nyc : 5/19/2022 11:42 pm : link
and much more to do with age and load management. Until a day or two ago Donaldson had not played back-to-back games in the field all year - which has only to do with his age and propensity to break down.

It also has to do with the fact that the Yankees have five starting calibre infielders for four spots - so, necessarily, someone sits each day so someone else can get their turn, and which is all encompassed by…

the organization’s belief in regular rest. anyone who’s paid attention the past few years knows how the Yankees believe in regularly resting their players- even, infuriatingly, in the middle of a hot streak - to preserve them over the long year. When Judge sat the other day it wasn’t because he couldn’t play the field.

Donaldson had an immense day in the field just a game or two ago. The analytics and the eye test both tell us the Yankees have improved both third base defense and offense this year. are we all doin’ ok?
Certainly.....  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 12:10 am : link
I just think the best Yankees lineup is with both JD and GS in the line-up. Also that its better for Stanton to not only play the field as he even says he likes the activity, but that means we dont have to keep BOTH Hicks and Gallo in the line up.

I guess it got misconstrued, but I would much prefer Stanton and Judge in the lineup along with Donaldson, DJ, Torres, Rizzo, IKF and limiting Gallo and Hicks as much as possible.

Gallo is hit or miss for me, but Hicks looks completely cooked.
RE: Certainly.....  
section125 : 5/20/2022 6:00 am : link
In comment 15714024 FrankHuntington said:
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I just think the best Yankees lineup is with both JD and GS in the line-up. Also that its better for Stanton to not only play the field as he even says he likes the activity, but that means we dont have to keep BOTH Hicks and Gallo in the line up.

I guess it got misconstrued, but I would much prefer Stanton and Judge in the lineup along with Donaldson, DJ, Torres, Rizzo, IKF and limiting Gallo and Hicks as much as possible.

Gallo is hit or miss for me, but Hicks looks completely cooked.


We would all prefer that all the "starters" be in every game, but that is not what the Yankees do to prevent fatigue injuries. If they were all 25 y/o it still wouldn't happen. It isn't 1960 anymore.
RE: Certainly.....  
wigs in nyc : 5/20/2022 7:40 am : link
In comment 15714024 FrankHuntington said:
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I just think the best Yankees lineup is with both JD and GS in the line-up. Also that its better for Stanton to not only play the field as he even says he likes the activity, but that means we dont have to keep BOTH Hicks and Gallo in the line up.

I guess it got misconstrued, but I would much prefer Stanton and Judge in the lineup along with Donaldson, DJ, Torres, Rizzo, IKF and limiting Gallo and Hicks as much as possible.

Gallo is hit or miss for me, but Hicks looks completely cooked.


I hear you, Frank - and in the playoffs I bet we do see the kind of lineups you mention, but that they will be only sprinkled-in throught the regular season. It’s a marathon, after all.
RE: Certainly.....  
Costy16 : 5/20/2022 9:14 am : link
In comment 15714024 FrankHuntington said:
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I just think the best Yankees lineup is with both JD and GS in the line-up. Also that its better for Stanton to not only play the field as he even says he likes the activity, but that means we dont have to keep BOTH Hicks and Gallo in the line up.

I guess it got misconstrued, but I would much prefer Stanton and Judge in the lineup along with Donaldson, DJ, Torres, Rizzo, IKF and limiting Gallo and Hicks as much as possible.

Gallo is hit or miss for me, but Hicks looks completely cooked.


I agree about Stanton, playing the field last year I think produced a positive impact for him at the plate. He even alluded to it at one point saying he likes not having to solely focus on hitting as a DH.
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