A lot of posters on one side of the fence or the other when it comes to Jones. But seems there is a lack all around of people discussing just how bad Saquon has been.
Is the there any scenario where he is a Giant in 2023? He is going to want a large contract and has proven he cannot stay healthy. Plus, when he has been on the field he has been underwhelming at best since his rookie year.
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It is really my hope that the same 10 to 20 negative posters who post and create every OL sucks, Jones and Saquon sucks thread take it up the ass this year. I could think nothing that would be sweeter than to see Jones and Saquon have incredible years.
So because they've been having terrible years does that mean you've been the one actually taking it up the ass?
I'm looking forward to Jones and Barkley being completely forgettable ex-Giants in 2023.
The whole team has been terrible you dolt. If the do improve because their teammates around them improve you will will say see anyone can play in the system they still suck.
The team has sucked not just them. As for taking it in the ass the 3 words you have heard more than any one on this site, BEND OVER TERPS !!!
Agreed.
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It is really my hope that the same 10 to 20 negative posters who post and create every OL sucks, Jones and Saquon sucks thread take it up the ass this year. I could think nothing that would be sweeter than to see Jones and Saquon have incredible years.
So because they've been having terrible years does that mean you've been the one actually taking it up the ass?
I'm looking forward to Jones and Barkley being completely forgettable ex-Giants in 2023.
The whole team has been terrible you dolt. If the do improve because their teammates around them improve you will will say see anyone can play in the system they still suck.
The team has sucked not just them. As for taking it in the ass the 3 words you have heard more than any one on this site, BEND OVER TERPS !!!
I'd rather see the Giants go 0-17 than you and the other nozzles on this board like you be correct
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It is really my hope that the same 10 to 20 negative posters who post and create every OL sucks, Jones and Saquon sucks thread take it up the ass this year. I could think nothing that would be sweeter than to see Jones and Saquon have incredible years.
So because they've been having terrible years does that mean you've been the one actually taking it up the ass?
I'm looking forward to Jones and Barkley being completely forgettable ex-Giants in 2023.
The whole team has been terrible you dolt. If the do improve because their teammates around them improve you will will say see anyone can play in the system they still suck.
The team has sucked not just them. As for taking it in the ass the 3 words you have heard more than any one on this site, BEND OVER TERPS !!!
I'd rather see the Giants go 0-17 than you and the other nozzles on this board like you be correct
And there it is. Finally one of the "Jones sucks Barkley sucks" crowd admits their reality. He just said he'd rather the Giants go 0-17 than admit he was wrong. They know if the Giants do well they look stupid so they're rooting for the Giants to lose
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It is really my hope that the same 10 to 20 negative posters who post and create every OL sucks, Jones and Saquon sucks thread take it up the ass this year. I could think nothing that would be sweeter than to see Jones and Saquon have incredible years.
So because they've been having terrible years does that mean you've been the one actually taking it up the ass?
I'm looking forward to Jones and Barkley being completely forgettable ex-Giants in 2023.
The whole team has been terrible you dolt. If the do improve because their teammates around them improve you will will say see anyone can play in the system they still suck.
The team has sucked not just them. As for taking it in the ass the 3 words you have heard more than any one on this site, BEND OVER TERPS !!!
I'd rather see the Giants go 0-17 than you and the other nozzles on this board like you be correct
And there it is. Finally one of the "Jones sucks Barkley sucks" crowd admits their reality. He just said he'd rather the Giants go 0-17 than admit he was wrong. They know if the Giants do well they look stupid so they're rooting for the Giants to lose
Can you and your buddy Blows be any more predictive in your posts? At least had courage to come back and attack with these handles...
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It is really my hope that the same 10 to 20 negative posters who post and create every OL sucks, Jones and Saquon sucks thread take it up the ass this year. I could think nothing that would be sweeter than to see Jones and Saquon have incredible years.
So because they've been having terrible years does that mean you've been the one actually taking it up the ass?
I'm looking forward to Jones and Barkley being completely forgettable ex-Giants in 2023.
The whole team has been terrible you dolt. If the do improve because their teammates around them improve you will will say see anyone can play in the system they still suck.
The team has sucked not just them. As for taking it in the ass the 3 words you have heard more than any one on this site, BEND OVER TERPS !!!
I'd rather see the Giants go 0-17 than you and the other nozzles on this board like you be correct
And there it is. Finally one of the "Jones sucks Barkley sucks" crowd admits their reality. He just said he'd rather the Giants go 0-17 than admit he was wrong. They know if the Giants do well they look stupid so they're rooting for the Giants to lose
Can you and your buddy Blows be any more predictive in your posts? At least had courage to come back and attack with these handles...
Notice, as usual, you don't say I'm wrong. Because I'm not
If Barkley has a big year why wouldn't they keep him?
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But, now, there is absolutely no scenario in which I can see Barkley being re-signed.
If Barkley has a big year why wouldn't they keep him?
He just said he'd rather see the Giants go 0-17 that admit he was wrong
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You’re wrong as usual….
He just said he'd rather see the Giants go 0-17 that admit he was wrong
No, he said he would rather a bad team lose all their games than admit that bad/same poster like you were right.
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You’re wrong as usual….
He just said he'd rather see the Giants go 0-17 that admit he was wrong
No, he said he would rather a bad team lose all their games than admit that bad/same poster like you were right.
Wow you are pathetic. If "we" are right it means he is wrong, and he would rather lose all 17 games than be wrong about Jones and Barkley
Nobody here wants Barkley, Jones or by extension, the Giants to do poorly.
They just think they suck.
It makes you mad so you play mental gymnastics until you can arrive at:
They are bad fans because they don't want the team to succeed.
It is recurring theme that needs to end.
You don't like their statements?
Use real data to refute them or STFU babies.
You can't refute their point because it is subjective?
Then why are your damn knickers in such a wad?
FFS lighten up.
The Giants are a poorly run, bottom of the NFL franchise until they prove otherwise.
Over a decade ago is now firmly the past.
We are what we are.
If Barkley or Jones have a decent year, it does not change the past, the critics were correct, that ship has sailed.
EVERYONE gets that neither one has been put in fair conditions, but players drafted in the top 6 should be more than system players.
Don't you feel like Thibs and Neal could change our stars if great?
Barkley and Jones are not great, that is the point. They will do much better this year, how could they not?
Exactly -
He can only ask for what other RBs are getting with similar stats. Just because it will be his 2nd contract doesn't mean the Giants are going to pay him beyond what he is worth.
They have to pay someone to run the ball. If his demands are rational - why not him? I think he is a great person who seems to be a good teammate and stays out of trouble off the field. They have to pay somebody.
Nobody here wants Barkley, Jones or by extension, the Giants to do poorly.
They just think they suck.
It makes you mad so you play mental gymnastics until you can arrive at:
They are bad fans because they don't want the team to succeed.
It is recurring theme that needs to end.
You don't like their statements?
Use real data to refute them or STFU babies.
You can't refute their point because it is subjective?
Then why are your damn knickers in such a wad?
FFS lighten up.
The Giants are a poorly run, bottom of the NFL franchise until they prove otherwise.
Over a decade ago is now firmly the past.
We are what we are.
If Barkley or Jones have a decent year, it does not change the past, the critics were correct, that ship has sailed.
EVERYONE gets that neither one has been put in fair conditions, but players drafted in the top 6 should be more than system players.
Don't you feel like Thibs and Neal could change our stars if great?
Barkley and Jones are not great, that is the point. They will do much better this year, how could they not?
Did you read what Scooter wrote? He flat-out said he would rather the Giants go 0-17 than admit you guys are right, which also means he would be wrong. It's not a strawman, it's a direct quote a few posts before yours
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You’re wrong as usual….
He just said he'd rather see the Giants go 0-17 that admit he was wrong
No, he said he would rather a bad team lose all their games than admit that bad/same poster like you were right.
Wow you are pathetic. If "we" are right it means he is wrong, and he would rather lose all 17 games than be wrong about Jones and Barkley
You sure sound familiar…
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Crap.
Nobody here wants Barkley, Jones or by extension, the Giants to do poorly.
They just think they suck.
It makes you mad so you play mental gymnastics until you can arrive at:
They are bad fans because they don't want the team to succeed.
It is recurring theme that needs to end.
You don't like their statements?
Use real data to refute them or STFU babies.
You can't refute their point because it is subjective?
Then why are your damn knickers in such a wad?
FFS lighten up.
The Giants are a poorly run, bottom of the NFL franchise until they prove otherwise.
Over a decade ago is now firmly the past.
We are what we are.
If Barkley or Jones have a decent year, it does not change the past, the critics were correct, that ship has sailed.
EVERYONE gets that neither one has been put in fair conditions, but players drafted in the top 6 should be more than system players.
Don't you feel like Thibs and Neal could change our stars if great?
Barkley and Jones are not great, that is the point. They will do much better this year, how could they not?
Did you read what Scooter wrote? He flat-out said he would rather the Giants go 0-17 than admit you guys are right, which also means he would be wrong. It's not a strawman, it's a direct quote a few posts before yours
There is a group of really thin skinned people that act like old married couples that hate each other but they have been fighting for so long they would die if they were apart.
Don't be one of them.
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Crap.
Nobody here wants Barkley, Jones or by extension, the Giants to do poorly.
They just think they suck.
It makes you mad so you play mental gymnastics until you can arrive at:
They are bad fans because they don't want the team to succeed.
It is recurring theme that needs to end.
You don't like their statements?
Use real data to refute them or STFU babies.
You can't refute their point because it is subjective?
Then why are your damn knickers in such a wad?
FFS lighten up.
The Giants are a poorly run, bottom of the NFL franchise until they prove otherwise.
Over a decade ago is now firmly the past.
We are what we are.
If Barkley or Jones have a decent year, it does not change the past, the critics were correct, that ship has sailed.
EVERYONE gets that neither one has been put in fair conditions, but players drafted in the top 6 should be more than system players.
Don't you feel like Thibs and Neal could change our stars if great?
Barkley and Jones are not great, that is the point. They will do much better this year, how could they not?
Did you read what Scooter wrote? He flat-out said he would rather the Giants go 0-17 than admit you guys are right, which also means he would be wrong. It's not a strawman, it's a direct quote a few posts before yours
No. as a general rule I ignore the stupid shit people say once the name calling in the thread starts.
There is a group of really thin skinned people that act like old married couples that hate each other but they have been fighting for so long they would die if they were apart.
Don't be one of them.
Then dont create a long post about it when you have no idea what was said
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It is really my hope that the same 10 to 20 negative posters who post and create every OL sucks, Jones and Saquon sucks thread take it up the ass this year. I could think nothing that would be sweeter than to see Jones and Saquon have incredible years.
So because they've been having terrible years does that mean you've been the one actually taking it up the ass?
I'm looking forward to Jones and Barkley being completely forgettable ex-Giants in 2023.
The whole team has been terrible you dolt. If the do improve because their teammates around them improve you will will say see anyone can play in the system they still suck.
The team has sucked not just them. As for taking it in the ass the 3 words you have heard more than any one on this site, BEND OVER TERPS !!!
I'd rather see the Giants go 0-17 than you and the other nozzles on this board like you be correct
And there it is. Finally one of the "Jones sucks Barkley sucks" crowd admits their reality. He just said he'd rather the Giants go 0-17 than admit he was wrong. They know if the Giants do well they look stupid so they're rooting for the Giants to lose
Oh, I don't care about being wrong
I just don't want the arrogant jackwads like you, blows, etc to be right.
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It is really my hope that the same 10 to 20 negative posters who post and create every OL sucks, Jones and Saquon sucks thread take it up the ass this year. I could think nothing that would be sweeter than to see Jones and Saquon have incredible years.
So because they've been having terrible years does that mean you've been the one actually taking it up the ass?
I'm looking forward to Jones and Barkley being completely forgettable ex-Giants in 2023.
The whole team has been terrible you dolt. If the do improve because their teammates around them improve you will will say see anyone can play in the system they still suck.
The team has sucked not just them. As for taking it in the ass the 3 words you have heard more than any one on this site, BEND OVER TERPS !!!
I'd rather see the Giants go 0-17 than you and the other nozzles on this board like you be correct
And there it is. Finally one of the "Jones sucks Barkley sucks" crowd admits their reality. He just said he'd rather the Giants go 0-17 than admit he was wrong. They know if the Giants do well they look stupid so they're rooting for the Giants to lose
Oh, I don't care about being wrong
I just don't want the arrogant jackwads like you, blows, etc to be right.
That make no sense. The ones saying "lets see Jones and Barkley with better coaching and a better OL" are the arrogant ones?
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I'd rather see the Giants go 0-17 than you and the other nozzles on this board like you be correct
This is no way to go through life.
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It is really my hope that the same 10 to 20 negative posters who post and create every OL sucks, Jones and Saquon sucks thread take it up the ass this year. I could think nothing that would be sweeter than to see Jones and Saquon have incredible years.
So because they've been having terrible years does that mean you've been the one actually taking it up the ass?
I'm looking forward to Jones and Barkley being completely forgettable ex-Giants in 2023.
The whole team has been terrible you dolt. If the do improve because their teammates around them improve you will will say see anyone can play in the system they still suck.
The team has sucked not just them. As for taking it in the ass the 3 words you have heard more than any one on this site, BEND OVER TERPS !!!
I'd rather see the Giants go 0-17 than you and the other nozzles on this board like you be correct
And there it is. Finally one of the "Jones sucks Barkley sucks" crowd admits their reality. He just said he'd rather the Giants go 0-17 than admit he was wrong. They know if the Giants do well they look stupid so they're rooting for the Giants to lose
Oh, I don't care about being wrong
I just don't want the arrogant jackwads like you, blows, etc to be right.
So let me get this straight because I hope that Jones and Barkley do well I am a Jack wad. Interesting. Well, we now know who it is that is telling Terps to BEND OVER!
He pooped in his drawers. Both the Bills and Chargers had crappy O-lines, never-the-less their young QB's play basically carried those teams.
Teams FOCUSED on Allen & Herbert, their excellent play enabled (that word again) the running backs to make good plays.
I'm here to tell you, nobody comes back fully from an ACL injury as severe as Saquon suffered in one year; never-mind the horrific ankle he later suffered ...
I saw, some other silly poster today say that Barkley's ankle injury is somehow his fault; I call that irrational bad will.
Let's see what a healthy Saquon can do with a "middlin'" O-line that most likely feature the interior manned by other team's cast-offs.
Again, this makes no sense. If you dont have an elite QB, you need elite playmakers. If Barkley comes close to his rookie season, why wouldnt you try to sign him?
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We'd be loco. I don't care how well he plays this fall.
Again, this makes no sense. If you dont have an elite QB, you need elite playmakers. If Barkley comes close to his rookie season, why wouldnt you try to sign him?
If he has a great year, you have to ask why.
If it's because of the OL and the coaching, then why pay him when you can start fresh with a younger, healthier, cheaper RB for a head coach that can scheme a run game and an OL that can lead the way.
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We'd be loco. I don't care how well he plays this fall.
Again, this makes no sense. If you dont have an elite QB, you need elite playmakers. If Barkley comes close to his rookie season, why wouldnt you try to sign him?
If he has a great year, you have to ask why.
If it's because of the OL and the coaching, then why pay him when you can start fresh with a younger, healthier, cheaper RB for a head coach that can scheme a run game and an OL that can lead the way.
We saw Barkley do things other RBs cant do his rookie year. Why would you think another cheaper RB can do what he does if he has that type of year again? If the offense clicks, why would you change it?
I've (and you) seen the Giants win Super Bowls and dominate the NFL with a league-best rushing attack without a star RB.
It's nice. It's certainly not necessary. And any money you spend there, you're not spending elsewhere. You can get highly talented RBs in round 2.
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It is really my hope that the same 10 to 20 negative posters who post and create every OL sucks, Jones and Saquon sucks thread take it up the ass this year. I could think nothing that would be sweeter than to see Jones and Saquon have incredible years.
So because they've been having terrible years does that mean you've been the one actually taking it up the ass?
I'm looking forward to Jones and Barkley being completely forgettable ex-Giants in 2023.
The whole team has been terrible you dolt. If the do improve because their teammates around them improve you will will say see anyone can play in the system they still suck.
The team has sucked not just them. As for taking it in the ass the 3 words you have heard more than any one on this site, BEND OVER TERPS !!!
I'd rather see the Giants go 0-17 than you and the other nozzles on this board like you be correct
And there it is. Finally one of the "Jones sucks Barkley sucks" crowd admits their reality. He just said he'd rather the Giants go 0-17 than admit he was wrong. They know if the Giants do well they look stupid so they're rooting for the Giants to lose
Oh, I don't care about being wrong
I just don't want the arrogant jackwads like you, blows, etc to be right.
So let me get this straight because I hope that Jones and Barkley do well I am a Jack wad. Interesting. Well, we now know who it is that is telling Terps to BEND OVER!
No, you're not a jackwad for wanting Jones and Barkley to do well
You're a jackwad for harassing those who don't share your opinion, as evidenced by the bend over comments.
Jones is a never was and never will be. He had no business being a first round pick let alone top 10. He doesn't have the mental aspect of the game and doesn't elevate those around him. Good kid but he's shown no progress as a young QB.
Barkley could still have some semblance of a career with another team as long as they use him more as a receiver because he's not a rb in the traditional sense. Jones has back up written all over him
Imagine commenting on this before knowing how
he plays AND what his contract COULD be.
Literally the definition of dumb.
Btw - no RB is ever again getting Zeke or
mccafery money. Its Derek Henry money (who is better than all them) going forward- which is slightly above the franchise number (on a deal the team can get out after year 2).
But lets keep babbling about nonsense.
Saquon preforms - he gets it.
He gets hurt again- we move on.
Watch the new offense, root for your team and dont look dumb in the meantime.
Hating Saquon Barkley by any Giants fan is an odd idiotic take.
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... and it makes sense from the Giants perspective, is if he actually takes market value for a gadget player with a ton of miles on him. Which would be a huge pay cut that I'm not sure he'd be willing to take from the Giants.
Best case scenario is he plays well enough for Schoen to trick a team into trading a 3rd rounder for him at the deadline.
with a ton of miles on him?
Barkley absolutely has a ton of miles on him. What would you call the ACL along with his other injuries?
Also, those 22 carries for 14 yards type games add up too.
So, instead of ignoring the threads/posts/posters that think are crap, you open them and bully the posters you hate.
Is someone holding a gun to your head forcing you to open DJ threads? Read GT, BW, or my posts?
If these things bother you so much why are you participating in and interacting with them?
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Hey Scooter, getting tired of the same crap posts for the last 3 years from the same posters. Who gives a shit that they hate certain players. If we do not already know where they stand by now you are living in a bubble. This is the same tired BS posts for 3 yrs. I come on here to see if there is any new news instead you get the same crappy threads every day. We should be behind the coaches the front office and our players, instead the same computer GM's come on pontificating tellimg us all how much smarter they think they are instead of our teams decision makers. I am confident the people we have in place are making better decisions. If Saquon and Jones are here after next season I will believe it is because our decision makers see something in them to help the team win.If they are gone I will be okay with that too for the same reason. Can't we for one day go without this guy or that guy sucks, we should not have drafted him we were so stupid we did. You have not had enough of this garbage yet? Seriously?
So, instead of ignoring the threads/posts/posters that think are crap, you open them and bully the posters you hate.
Is someone holding a gun to your head forcing you to open DJ threads? Read GT, BW, or my posts?
If these things bother you so much why are you participating in and interacting with them?
I'm guessing by the handle, he/she is here for a purpose.
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It is really my hope that the same 10 to 20 negative posters who post and create every OL sucks, Jones and Saquon sucks thread take it up the ass this year. I could think nothing that would be sweeter than to see Jones and Saquon have incredible years.
So because they've been having terrible years does that mean you've been the one actually taking it up the ass?
I'm looking forward to Jones and Barkley being completely forgettable ex-Giants in 2023.
The whole team has been terrible you dolt. If the do improve because their teammates around them improve you will will say see anyone can play in the system they still suck.
The team has sucked not just them. As for taking it in the ass the 3 words you have heard more than any one on this site, BEND OVER TERPS !!!
I'd rather see the Giants go 0-17 than you and the other nozzles on this board like you be correct
Wow! I wonder if other posters feel this way, it sometimes seems that way.
This. I hope he has a crazy good year, but I still wouldn't give him a 3 year contract for big money. Particularly since he's not a complete RB- he can't block and he can't pick up the tough yards between the tackles.
Wow! I wonder if other posters feel this way, it sometimes seems that way.
I do! Why wouldn’t I? So you mean to tell me I watched some total pussies who were selected by Gettleman play with no balls for years now ; stink up the place ; but I’m supposed to just forget all that and hope prayer power manages to turn things around?
First off I’m no longer a 10 year old boy pledging allegiance to the big blue . I want to see good athletes perform out of the ordinary athletic feats . Not something I could do myself. I.e. watch jones play with no balls and throw short passes underneath.
Second, I liken Barkley and his whiffing blocking assignments the same way I would someone at work sleeping on the job. I might think it’s funny but at the same time be like “ what the hell is wrong with this loser.”
Thirdly , yes the fact I have to battle nozzles here who seem to think the the 3-4 years didn’t matter and they’re just magically going to transform into something else is all the more obnoxious. And yes , if shoen turns this around it would be because of him in lieu of jones and Barkley who have shown to be jags at best if not total busts.
Barkley and Jones will never live up to their draft position - but here’s hoping they have good years so we can enjoy some Giants football.
😂
57 years later, many Giants fans fondly lament what could have been if Fredrickson hadn't got hurt. It's like the pain of a lost love.
Saquon Barkley is just the opposite. He had a tremendous rookie season, then he got hurt; no lament just hate and disgust. I don't get it.
Barkley and Jones will never live up to their draft position - but here’s hoping they have good years so we can enjoy some Giants football.
Yes they’ll never live up to their draft position I agree but, that is nothing to gloss over since they are being paid accordingly and similarly are the de facto leaders of the team; taking away not only money but leadership roles away from other players who can play better and help give this team a different identity and look on offense.
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Barkley and Jones will never live up to their draft position - but here’s hoping they have good years so we can enjoy some Giants football.
Yes they’ll never live up to their draft position I agree but, that is nothing to gloss over since they are being paid accordingly and similarly are the de facto leaders of the team; taking away not only money but leadership roles away from other players who can play better and help give this team a different identity and look on offense.
Leadership roles are usually given to the players by their own teammates, so who cares? And what players should replace them?
Jones is massively important. Barring completely unprecedented improvement he will never be a good QB. And it's almost impossible to contend consistently with a bad QB like Jones. Extending Jones would doom the franchise for many years.
That is why people are far more concerned about Jones than Barkley