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NFT: Is Joey Gallo really that bad?

Kmed6000 : 5/20/2022 11:39 am
Lets look at the numbers...

.176/.294/.333 with a .627 OPS

119 PA's
102 AB's
18 Hits(12 singles, 1 double, 5 HR's)
4 of his 5 HR's were solo HR's
7 RBI
45 Strikeouts


So in conclusion, Gallo has gotten out 84 times and of those 84, 45 were strikeouts. An amazing 53% of his outs are strikeouts. Or 38% of the time he comes to the plate, it ends in a strikeout.

He's not a particularly good fielder, he doesn't seem to have a high baseball IQ. I'd say his ONLY good quality is that guys seem to like him. He has to be in the discussion as the one of the worst every day players in MLB. They need to replace this guy.

Yes, Joey Gallo is that bad.
I didn't get the trade, wouldn't have retained him  
JonC : 5/20/2022 11:42 am : link
he's been awful, doesn't seem built for the NYC fish bowl. Shrug.
He was obviously an all-star in Texas  
BLUATHRT : 5/20/2022 11:43 am : link
Some guys just can't perform under the bright lights.
Yes, he is that bad.  
Ron from Ninerland : 5/20/2022 11:46 am : link
He batted under .200 last year, under .200 in spring training and he's at barely .200 this year against mostly inferior competition . He has consistently struck out in 1/3 of his plate appearances and he's an average at best outfielder. I can understand showing patience with Hicks and Higgy but not Gallo. He's not going to get better. This is who he is.
He's awful  
Doubledeuce22 : 5/20/2022 11:50 am : link
Him and Hicks need to be off this roster or at the very least no longer starting on a regular basis.
Gallo before the Yankees  
arniefez : 5/20/2022 11:50 am : link
was a very good LF with a very good arm, a good base runner with some speed and hit a lot of HRs while striking out a lot.

Since he's gotten to the Yankees he's become a somewhat shaky LF, rarely gets on base to use his speed, no longer hits a lot of HRs and strikes out at a historic rate. Unless we enter bizarro world since he's a FA after this season ends he won't be a Yankee next year.
Well, I'm not Jerry Gallo  
Ben in Tampa : 5/20/2022 11:53 am : link
I'm Jerry Callo!
He needs to be replaced immediately.  
Kmed6000 : 5/20/2022 11:53 am : link
It has to be the Yankees biggest need. I'd prefer to put Stanton in LF because he's a better all around player when he plays the field, but if not, they need to fix LF at the deadline. Gallo cannot be in the lineup every day.
RE: Yes, he is that bad.  
Kmed6000 : 5/20/2022 11:54 am : link
In comment 15714292 Ron from Ninerland said:
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He batted under .200 last year, under .200 in spring training and he's at barely .200 this year against mostly inferior competition . He has consistently struck out in 1/3 of his plate appearances and he's an average at best outfielder. I can understand showing patience with Hicks and Higgy but not Gallo. He's not going to get better. This is who he is.


I'm guessing you didn't read what I wrote, just the headline? You just repeated everything in my OP lol
RE: Well, I'm not Jerry Gallo  
smshmth8690 : 5/20/2022 11:58 am : link
In comment 15714303 Ben in Tampa said:
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I'm Jerry Callo!


You beat me by 4 minutes
Technically 5,  
Kmed6000 : 5/20/2022 11:58 am : link
but whos counting.
RE: Gallo before the Yankees  
Tuckrule : 5/20/2022 12:03 pm : link
In comment 15714298 arniefez said:
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was a very good LF with a very good arm, a good base runner with some speed and hit a lot of HRs while striking out a lot.

Since he's gotten to the Yankees he's become a somewhat shaky LF, rarely gets on base to use his speed, no longer hits a lot of HRs and strikes out at a historic rate. Unless we enter bizarro world since he's a FA after this season ends he won't be a Yankee next year.


Nice summary and I’d also like to add im sick of Hicks. Rather see florial
As is Hicks.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/20/2022 12:05 pm : link
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'...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/20/2022 12:10 pm : link
His name was in the papers all last week.'

'Yeah I saw that.'

'But you didn't actually read the articles.'

'No.'

'Too bad.'

'Why's that?'

'Cause he's dead!'
actually Gallo is pretty good  
Giantsfan79 : 5/20/2022 12:11 pm : link
you may not like the idea of the 3 true outcome view of major league at bats, but if you do Gallo is one of the poster children for it. And MLB front offices' seem to be very into 3 true outcome.

I'd also wager, if anyone cares to, that he'll sign for over $100 million this off-season.
RE: RE: Gallo before the Yankees  
Joe in CT : 5/20/2022 12:12 pm : link
In comment 15714325 Tuckrule said:
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was a very good LF with a very good arm, a good base runner with some speed and hit a lot of HRs while striking out a lot.

Since he's gotten to the Yankees he's become a somewhat shaky LF, rarely gets on base to use his speed, no longer hits a lot of HRs and strikes out at a historic rate. Unless we enter bizarro world since he's a FA after this season ends he won't be a Yankee next year.



Nice summary and I’d also like to add im sick of Hicks. Rather see florial


This is what pisses me off, how much more time are they going to wait on Florial, he's a plus fielder, good speed, and in time should be provide more contact then we're getting with either Hicks or Gallo. Time for Cash to wake up!
Gallo and Hicks  
Crazed Dogs : 5/20/2022 12:14 pm : link
have clearly underperformed. The K rate on Gallo is incredibly bad. He does have a good glove. I feel bad for Gallo as it seems like he is pressing. He had a really bad series in Baltimore.
Well, with the Yanks at 28-10, best record in baseball  
Stan in LA : 5/20/2022 12:16 pm : link
They can afford to carry this guy for a while. It's not as if they lost their 2 top starting pitchers.
When the Yanks first signed Hicks  
Kmed6000 : 5/20/2022 12:17 pm : link
I thought it was a good deal. He was playing at his peak and its a very fair contract and I thought it was a smart move. I was wrong, he sucks.

How much of it is injury and how much of it is him just not being a good ball player, who knows, but he sucks too. At least Hicks has a good glove, can't say the same for Gallo.
RE: actually Gallo is pretty good  
Kmed6000 : 5/20/2022 12:18 pm : link
In comment 15714339 Giantsfan79 said:
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you may not like the idea of the 3 true outcome view of major league at bats, but if you do Gallo is one of the poster children for it. And MLB front offices' seem to be very into 3 true outcome.

I'd also wager, if anyone cares to, that he'll sign for over $100 million this off-season.


OMG, what? A. I think you are wrong, hes not good and where are the other 2 outcomes? B. Wanna bet? Name your price.
Cash is all about the  
Dave on the UWS : 5/20/2022 12:19 pm : link
"bombers" mentality. Florial doesn't fit that. Speed? nah, Fielding? nah, base running? nah, on base percentage? nah. Just hit a lot of home runs and you're good. (except he really doesn't do that either).
there isn't a snowball's chance in hell  
bigbluehoya : 5/20/2022 12:21 pm : link
that Joey Gallo is getting a $100M deal.
RE: Cash is all about the  
Kmed6000 : 5/20/2022 12:22 pm : link
In comment 15714353 Dave on the UWS said:
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"bombers" mentality. Florial doesn't fit that. Speed? nah, Fielding? nah, base running? nah, on base percentage? nah. Just hit a lot of home runs and you're good. (except he really doesn't do that either).


I'm not sure you can still say that. DJLM isnt a home run hitter. Falafel, whoever is catching. The yankees have improved their defense a lot this year and they have more contact guys than in years past.
I'd like to see  
k2tampa : 5/20/2022 12:23 pm : link
Gallo bunt every single time he leads off an inning or comes up with one out and no one on base.
Cashman has always been way behind the curve of MLB  
arniefez : 5/20/2022 12:26 pm : link
The days of teams winning with a Gallo are over. Contact is going to become a much more desirable skill than it's been since PEDs took over the sport. The ball is dead. Fences have been moving back. The shift is going to be banned. 2nd base is going be moved to increase stolen bases. It will not be long before you hear batting average being talked about again.
RE: Technically 5,  
smshmth8690 : 5/20/2022 12:30 pm : link
In comment 15714314 Kmed6000 said:
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but whos counting.


You sir, are one hell of a trial attorney!
RE: Cashman has always been way behind the curve of MLB  
Mike in NY : 5/20/2022 12:35 pm : link
In comment 15714362 arniefez said:
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The days of teams winning with a Gallo are over. Contact is going to become a much more desirable skill than it's been since PEDs took over the sport. The ball is dead. Fences have been moving back. The shift is going to be banned. 2nd base is going be moved to increase stolen bases. It will not be long before you hear batting average being talked about again.


Taking away the shift will favor pull hitters over contact guys as there won't be one fielder on the opposite side and the 2B or SS in shallow left center/right center. Personally I don't mind the shift but would instead mandate that 1B, 2B, 3B, and SS can't be on OF grass at the time of the pitch. Place them where you want, but they can't be standing in the OF.
RE: actually Gallo is pretty good  
Mad Mike : 5/20/2022 12:39 pm : link
In comment 15714339 Giantsfan79 said:
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you may not like the idea of the 3 true outcome view of major league at bats, but if you do Gallo is one of the poster children for it. And MLB front offices' seem to be very into 3 true outcome.

I'd also wager, if anyone cares to, that he'll sign for over $100 million this off-season.

LOL. Adam Dunn was one of the poster children for 3 the 3 true outcome view of things. Very high K's, low average, good obp due to walking a ton, and ferociously effective when making contact, as evidenced by his tremendous slugging and ops (through age 30). Gallo was never as good as Dunn, though he did have some legitimately good seasons in Texas. If you want to ignore his time in NY, so be it, it's less than a full season after all. But even in Texas he was a low obp guy, and far from a poster child for three true outcomes. And as a Yankee, he's stunk.
RE: RE: actually Gallo is pretty good  
Giantsfan79 : 5/20/2022 12:43 pm : link
In comment 15714349 Kmed6000 said:
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you may not like the idea of the 3 true outcome view of major league at bats, but if you do Gallo is one of the poster children for it. And MLB front offices' seem to be very into 3 true outcome.

I'd also wager, if anyone cares to, that he'll sign for over $100 million this off-season.



OMG, what? A. I think you are wrong, hes not good and where are the other 2 outcomes?


Gallo either Homers, strikes out, or walks, and he plays good defense and could play CF if needed. Those are the outcomes. You aren't going to small sample size say the walks and home runs aren't going to come are you? Also you can see from Gallo's playing history he can break out for 2 months and look like Mike Trout and then suddenly go back to what he's doing now.

B. Wanna bet? Name your price.

I'm up for whatever, some team (the Padres), will pay him.
During a game a week or so ago, Kay pointed out that in his  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 12:46 pm : link
Last 10 at bats, he was batting .300 with 3 homers, and even called him getting hot. Then he went right back in the shitter.
RE: RE: Cash is all about the  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 12:52 pm : link
In comment 15714357 Kmed6000 said:
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"bombers" mentality. Florial doesn't fit that. Speed? nah, Fielding? nah, base running? nah, on base percentage? nah. Just hit a lot of home runs and you're good. (except he really doesn't do that either).



I'm not sure you can still say that. DJLM isnt a home run hitter. Falafel, whoever is catching. The yankees have improved their defense a lot this year and they have more contact guys than in years past.


Also a weird comment by Dave as the Yankees are currently 5th in MLB in OBP....and thats with carrying Hicks, Higgy,Trevino and Gallo regularly
RE: RE: RE: actually Gallo is pretty good  
Mad Mike : 5/20/2022 12:52 pm : link
In comment 15714376 Giantsfan79 said:
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Gallo either Homers, strikes out, or walks, and he plays good defense and could play CF if needed. Those are the outcomes. You aren't going to small sample size say the walks and home runs aren't going to come are you? Also you can see from Gallo's playing history he can break out for 2 months and look like Mike Trout and then suddenly go back to what he's doing now.

Doubling down on fail is never a good idea.
I don't think he's having an easy time playing in NY.  
Strahan91 : 5/20/2022 1:02 pm : link
We've seen this movie before, the pressure to perform is significantly higher and becomes more and more pronounced as a player struggles more. He still does walk a lot and he's solid in the field (although he's had some issues this year) but I think he'd be much more productive in another city without the NYY pressure
RE: RE: RE: RE: actually Gallo is pretty good  
Giantsfan79 : 5/20/2022 1:03 pm : link
In comment 15714384 Mad Mike said:
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Gallo either Homers, strikes out, or walks, and he plays good defense and could play CF if needed. Those are the outcomes. You aren't going to small sample size say the walks and home runs aren't going to come are you? Also you can see from Gallo's playing history he can break out for 2 months and look like Mike Trout and then suddenly go back to what he's doing now.


Doubling down on fail is never a good idea.


it's baseball, so he doubling down on writing off a player before Memorial Day. And Gallo totally can go on a .275/.385/600+ stat line for about 200 at bats
The trade shouldn't have happened for Gallo.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/20/2022 1:05 pm : link
But Cashman's moves have mostly paid off thus far this season. Won't kill him for one bad move. The Hicks contract is alot more unforgivable to me.
If  
Professor Falken : 5/20/2022 1:15 pm : link
I struck out half the time, I'd change my two strike approach. That's just me.
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I am Ninja : 5/20/2022 1:17 pm : link
How the yanks are on this pace in spite of gallo and hicks is amazing
Hated the trade for Gallo when it was made  
Heisenberg : 5/20/2022 1:20 pm : link
Still hate it. He's legit worse than the corpse of Brett Gardner.

Someone wrote above that Contact is going to be a more and more highly desired skill and I agree with that. I also think that is largely because pitching is evolving. Analytics has killed the idea of "pitch to contact". It's also helping pitchers identify their best pitches - those that get the highest swinging strike rate - and telling them to lean on them. It all adds up to what I think is the end of utility for guys like Gallo (and Dunn before him).
Did you say Gallo?  
Jints in Carolina : 5/20/2022 1:22 pm : link
RE: The trade shouldn't have happened for Gallo.  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 1:24 pm : link
In comment 15714392 Dave in Hoboken said:
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But Cashman's moves have mostly paid off thus far this season. Won't kill him for one bad move. The Hicks contract is alot more unforgivable to me.


Honestly, I liked the contract at the time. Decent hotter, had a bit of power, good OBP, could steal bags, great fielder with a big arm....then he couldnt stay on the field playing a max of 50 games a year. I also forgot that he just wrapped up a season only playing 50 when he got that contract.

Cashman should not be allowed to sign CFers long term after Ellsbury and Hicks. Cant believe he gets paid until 2026
Funny  
mitch300 : 5/20/2022 1:34 pm : link
Thing is, a shit load of teams wanted to get Gallo. The Texas rangers ate odors contract last year. The Yanks can afford to eat his contract. In fact when the Mets released cano, him and Gallo had similar numbers.
RE: Well, I'm not Jerry Gallo  
mattlawson : 5/20/2022 1:35 pm : link
In comment 15714303 Ben in Tampa said:
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I'm Jerry Callo!


Came here to make basically the same kind of joke.
My question is, what is going on with Andujar  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 1:42 pm : link
In LF? I mean I know hes not ready, but Im a little stunned that he isnt at this point. He. Would be an instant fix if he could just be average at the positiin. But it seems he is still a way off.
RE: '...  
bradshaw44 : 5/20/2022 1:44 pm : link
In comment 15714336 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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His name was in the papers all last week.'

'Yeah I saw that.'

'But you didn't actually read the articles.'

'No.'

'Too bad.'

'Why's that?'

'Cause he's dead!'


Was waiting for a My Cousin Vinny comment. Thank you
Problem with Andujar  
Crazed Dogs : 5/20/2022 1:49 pm : link
is the glove.... he is a DH at this point...I like they guy and he has a great attitude. I would not mind them giving him a shot in the outfield. If he can be adequate fielding he has a plus bat.
RE: actually Gallo is pretty good  
Mike in Long Beach : 5/20/2022 2:00 pm : link
In comment 15714339 Giantsfan79 said:
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you may not like the idea of the 3 true outcome view of major league at bats, but if you do Gallo is one of the poster children for it. And MLB front offices' seem to be very into 3 true outcome.

I'd also wager, if anyone cares to, that he'll sign for over $100 million this off-season.


You're out of your mind. People wanted him to be the poster child for that. His OPS is 627.... 627!!!

He is absolutely terrible.
Its not like Gallo is some GG left fielder.  
Kmed6000 : 5/20/2022 2:00 pm : link
I am not impressed at all with Gallo. I know he had a good reputation as a fielder before he came to the Yankees, but I don't see it. He looks lost out there most of the time. If I'm making the lineups, I'd have Stanton as my primary LF right now. I'd put Gallo on the bench as my 4th/5th OF at this point.
Look at the Standings  
Samiam : 5/20/2022 2:03 pm : link
Why would they change anything?
Back to Hicks.  
Mike from SI : 5/20/2022 2:10 pm : link
He used to have one of the best arms in OF. He authored one of the most impressive outfield assists I've ever seen with the Twins. But now having lost like 15 mph off his fastball, he's average at best in that department. Making him average or below average at literally every skill besides having a good eye at the plate. I was cool with the contract at the time but if he doesn't turn this around we need to DFA him and eat the money. The mythical "replacement level player" is better than him at this point.
Gallo must have something Personal going on that  
MartyNJ1969 : 5/20/2022 3:10 pm : link
is affecting him on the field. He looks distracted and not focused at the plate like he is worried about something else.
the yankees  
cactus : 5/20/2022 3:23 pm : link
thought they were getting Joey Callo
RE: the yankees  
cactus : 5/20/2022 3:23 pm : link
In comment 15714497 cactus said:
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thought they were getting Joey Callo


damn, this joke was made 3x above already :(
Is he blind ?  
averagejoe : 5/20/2022 4:05 pm : link
He has been awful. Shaky in LF and I'm shocked when he ever makes contact with the ball. Every 4th AB the ball hits his bat accidentally .
RE: Is he blind ?  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 4:11 pm : link
In comment 15714525 averagejoe said:
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He has been awful. Shaky in LF and I'm shocked when he ever makes contact with the ball. Every 4th AB the ball hits his bat accidentally .


I feel the same way. Only one of he and Hicks should be in the line up at the same time. Hence my preference to have Stanton play the outfield more often. They can do Gallo in left, Judge in CF and Stanton in RF. Do Stanton in LF, Hicks (puke) in CF and Judge in RF and then sprinkle in Gonzalez here and there and have Donaldson and whoever is off between Stanton and Judge as DH.

At 3B, Donaldson can split time with DJ and Marwin, and DJ can relieve Rizzo making him a DH.

Having both Hicks and Gallo in the outfield and lineup at the same time doesnt make any sense to me. Right now, neither are good ball players.
RE: Well, I'm not Jerry Gallo  
BH28 : 5/20/2022 4:25 pm : link
In comment 15714303 Ben in Tampa said:
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I'm Jerry Callo!


Maybe we should call him Joey Gambini instead.
we knew what we were getting ...  
BCD : 5/20/2022 4:26 pm : link
when we got Gallo.....180 hitting avg....30 hr's and a strike out every 3 at bats....he'll get warm ...hot...and ice cold from time to time.
RE: Yes, he is that bad.  
Matt M. : 5/20/2022 5:12 pm : link
In comment 15714292 Ron from Ninerland said:
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He batted under .200 last year, under .200 in spring training and he's at barely .200 this year against mostly inferior competition . He has consistently struck out in 1/3 of his plate appearances and he's an average at best outfielder. I can understand showing patience with Hicks and Higgy but not Gallo. He's not going to get better. This is who he is.
Why would you be any more patient with Hicks or Higashioka? Both have sucked for longer and neither has ever been as good as Gallo when he was an all star.
RE: Its not like Gallo is some GG left fielder.  
Kyle in NY : 5/20/2022 5:32 pm : link
In comment 15714436 Kmed6000 said:
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I am not impressed at all with Gallo. I know he had a good reputation as a fielder before he came to the Yankees, but I don't see it. He looks lost out there most of the time. If I'm making the lineups, I'd have Stanton as my primary LF right now. I'd put Gallo on the bench as my 4th/5th OF at this point.


I'm not a huge Gallo fan, it hasn't worked out in NY at all, but he literally did win the last two gold gloves in LF
RE: RE: Yes, he is that bad.  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 5:39 pm : link
In comment 15714562 Matt M. said:
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He batted under .200 last year, under .200 in spring training and he's at barely .200 this year against mostly inferior competition . He has consistently struck out in 1/3 of his plate appearances and he's an average at best outfielder. I can understand showing patience with Hicks and Higgy but not Gallo. He's not going to get better. This is who he is.

Why would you be any more patient with Hicks or Higashioka? Both have sucked for longer and neither has ever been as good as Gallo when he was an all star.


Hicks DIDNT always suck. He was hitting for decent average, with power, could steal bases, was a great fielding OF with best arm in MLB who was also a switch hitter. For 10 mill a year, thats decent value. The length of the contract was/is questionable. But Hicks'contract at the time he signed it was very acceptable amongst Yankees fans and he only missed 6 games of the COVID season.

THEN the wheels started coming off with the surgery and now this season. But he has a career WAR over 12....so its not like hes a scrub that lucked into a deal.

Both players SHOULD be better, unfortunately, Hicks looks completely done in terms of what he brings offensively and defensively.....but we'll pay him starting CF money until 2026
RE: RE: Its not like Gallo is some GG left fielder.  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 5:44 pm : link
In comment 15714575 Kyle in NY said:
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I am not impressed at all with Gallo. I know he had a good reputation as a fielder before he came to the Yankees, but I don't see it. He looks lost out there most of the time. If I'm making the lineups, I'd have Stanton as my primary LF right now. I'd put Gallo on the bench as my 4th/5th OF at this point.



I'm not a huge Gallo fan, it hasn't worked out in NY at all, but he literally did win the last two gold gloves in LF


Am I a moron for not understanding how Gallo and Benintendi can win the GG in 2021 playing the same position? Or did Gallo win it in RF?????
Not mocking you Kyle....  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 5:45 pm : link
Just am confused when I looked it up because I knew that AB won one in 2021 for LF.
Okay.....so a but mistaken Kyle,  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 5:47 pm : link
Gallo won his GG last year for RF, which is fine. Little doff, but I was comfused for a minute.
RE: RE: RE: Yes, he is that bad.  
Matt M. : 5/20/2022 5:51 pm : link
In comment 15714583 FrankHuntington said:
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He batted under .200 last year, under .200 in spring training and he's at barely .200 this year against mostly inferior competition . He has consistently struck out in 1/3 of his plate appearances and he's an average at best outfielder. I can understand showing patience with Hicks and Higgy but not Gallo. He's not going to get better. This is who he is.

Why would you be any more patient with Hicks or Higashioka? Both have sucked for longer and neither has ever been as good as Gallo when he was an all star.



Hicks DIDNT always suck. He was hitting for decent average, with power, could steal bases, was a great fielding OF with best arm in MLB who was also a switch hitter. For 10 mill a year, thats decent value. The length of the contract was/is questionable. But Hicks'contract at the time he signed it was very acceptable amongst Yankees fans and he only missed 6 games of the COVID season.

THEN the wheels started coming off with the surgery and now this season. But he has a career WAR over 12....so its not like hes a scrub that lucked into a deal.

Both players SHOULD be better, unfortunately, Hicks looks completely done in terms of what he brings offensively and defensively.....but we'll pay him starting CF money until 2026
Hicks had 1 good season. The rest have bad to mediocre. And now his fielding leaves a lot to be desired. He is not a good player.
Im not arguing with you, I think Cash  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 6:02 pm : link
Def shot for the moon hoping this guy would keep trending upwards....he hit 56 homers from '17-19 and that with defense, base stealing at 10 mill per prob seemed like a bargain at the time.

Just another bad contract and bad decision. Just how much longer do we compound it by risking losses on the field in addition to the checkbook. I dont see him turning this level of poor play around.
RE: Look at the Standings  
GruningsOnTheHill : 5/20/2022 6:12 pm : link
In comment 15714440 Samiam said:
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Why would they change anything?

None of us has a crystal ball, but a .750 winning percentage over the course of 160 games is not likely to be sustainable. Getting deep into the playoffs with liabilities at 2 of the 3 OF positions will be tough.
RE: RE: Look at the Standings  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 6:13 pm : link
In comment 15714596 GruningsOnTheHill said:
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Why would they change anything?


None of us has a crystal ball, but a .750 winning percentage over the course of 160 games is not likely to be sustainable. Getting deep into the playoffs with liabilities at 2 of the 3 OF positions will be tough.


Couldnt have said better myself.
I dont know much about the source, but  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 6:19 pm : link
The writer seems to bring a lot to this article. I also know I have caught in advocating for AB, but these are the numbers that had been standing out to me as well. Hes performed well in KC this far. Would probably have to take more than just a little more than Beck Way, but losing AB for nothing is a worse concept.
Benintendi for Way? - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Yes, he is that bad.  
Ron from Ninerland : 5/20/2022 7:01 pm : link
In comment 15714562 Matt M. said:
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He batted under .200 last year, under .200 in spring training and he's at barely .200 this year against mostly inferior competition . He has consistently struck out in 1/3 of his plate appearances and he's an average at best outfielder. I can understand showing patience with Hicks and Higgy but not Gallo. He's not going to get better. This is who he is.

Why would you be any more patient with Hicks or Higashioka? Both have sucked for longer and neither has ever been as good as Gallo when he was an all star.
I'm not terribly optimistic about either of them, but we're stuck with Hicks anyway, and he's healthy for the first time in years so maybe he improves. We're also stuck with Higgy considering what a miserable bust Rortvedt has turned out to be. He too has shown flashes of offense in the past. As for Gallo, he should be DFA'd the minute Florial or anybody else shows a pulse or Cashman can find another scrap.
So Rortvedt is a buust now  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 7:12 pm : link
Just terrific...guy has had an oblique (which is extra tricky for catchers) and just got scoped.

But sure lets start filling in the hole already.
RE: So Rortvedt is a buust now  
Ron from Ninerland : 5/20/2022 7:48 pm : link
In comment 15714631 FrankHuntington said:
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Just terrific...guy has had an oblique (which is extra tricky for catchers) and just got scoped.

But sure lets start filling in the hole already.
Rortvedt looked like Luke Voit 2.0 to begin with. We found out when we got him that he had an oblique injury that dates back before the trade. It was almost two months from the time the injury was revealed before he could even play in rehab games, probably much longer from when he suffered it. Then he immediately comes up with a torn meniscus. An injury like that is a show stopper for a catcher. So yeah, he's a bust.
RE: So Rortvedt is a buust now  
Ron from Ninerland : 5/20/2022 7:55 pm : link
In comment 15714631 FrankHuntington said:
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Just terrific...guy has had an oblique (which is extra tricky for catchers) and just got scoped.

But sure lets start filling in the hole already.
And since you have shown that you need to have the last word, perhaps you can explain why an oblique is tricky for catchers ? When the injury was reported it was said that he could not swing the bat, but he was continuing with catching drills. One thing is for sure, a torn meniscus definitely will affect his ability to bend and crouch. Unless he has remarkable recuperative abilities he won't be catching this year.
RE: RE: So Rortvedt is a buust now  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 8:55 pm : link
In comment 15714654 Ron from Ninerland said:
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Just terrific...guy has had an oblique (which is extra tricky for catchers) and just got scoped.

But sure lets start filling in the hole already.

And since you have shown that you need to have the last word, perhaps you can explain why an oblique is tricky for catchers ? When the injury was reported it was said that he could not swing the bat, but he was continuing with catching drills. One thing is for sure, a torn meniscus definitely will affect his ability to bend and crouch. Unless he has remarkable recuperative abilities he won't be catching this year.


Because an oblique has a distinct impact on throwing mechanics where if you rush back from one, you risk further injury.....they have to be given more time than most. And given thats the only stand out part of his game, Im not ready to call a 24 y/o catcher who from all I am told, is great from behind the plate.

He got scoped....its not like it was a catastrophic tear. We might have nothing in Rortvedt but its not much different than what we would be getting from Higgy and hes gone after this year
RE: RE: So Rortvedt is a buust now  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 8:59 pm : link
In comment 15714654 Ron from Ninerland said:
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Just terrific...guy has had an oblique (which is extra tricky for catchers) and just got scoped.

But sure lets start filling in the hole already.

And since you have shown that you need to have the last word, perhaps you can explain why an oblique is tricky for catchers ? When the injury was reported it was said that he could not swing the bat, but he was continuing with catching drills. One thing is for sure, a torn meniscus definitely will affect his ability to bend and crouch. Unless he has remarkable recuperative abilities he won't be catching this year.


You DO realize what the oblique does as far naseball dont you? Pretty much the entire swing of a bat or throwing delivery is governed at its core by the oblique. You could get away with an obique strain in basketball, but not baseball
Higgy’s under team control through 2025  
wigs in nyc : 5/20/2022 9:01 pm : link
should the team desire to keep him that long. He’s only in his first arbitration year.

Trevino hasn’t even hit arbitration yet, and wouldn’t hit FA until after the 2026 season.

RE: Higgy’s under team control through 2025  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 10:12 pm : link
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should the team desire to keep him that long. He’s only in his first arbitration year.

Trevino hasn’t even hit arbitration yet, and wouldn’t hit FA until after the 2026 season.


I guess my point is going forward withOUT Higgy as part of the equation. Trevino is the better player imo and would hope we would find a better alt than Higgy next season
RE: RE: actually Gallo is pretty good  
Stu11 : 5/21/2022 9:19 am : link
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But even in Texas he was a low obp guy, and far from a poster child for three true outcomes. And as a Yankee, he's stunk.

In 2019 his opb was .389 and before the trade last year it was .379. so I wouldn't say he was a low obp guy. Listen he's stunk as a Yankee, there's no denying that but all the people saying the trade didn't make sense are playing revisionist history. We needed a left handed stick and Cash felt his bat was perfect for YS. He also has always been very good in the OF and that has dropped off too. It's another Sony Gray situation. We thought we were getting one thing based on his career and we got something totally different. Oh well we'll probably move on, if not in season then definitely in the off season. All this hand wringing is a waste of time and energy.
RE: RE: Its not like Gallo is some GG left fielder.  
Kmed6000 : 5/21/2022 9:58 am : link
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I am not impressed at all with Gallo. I know he had a good reputation as a fielder before he came to the Yankees, but I don't see it. He looks lost out there most of the time. If I'm making the lineups, I'd have Stanton as my primary LF right now. I'd put Gallo on the bench as my 4th/5th OF at this point.



I'm not a huge Gallo fan, it hasn't worked out in NY at all, but he literally did win the last two gold gloves in LF


I understand he won GG, but so did Rafael Palmiero and he played like 20 games in the field 1 year. GG is about as useful an indication as all-star. That being said, I meant on the yankees. Its not like he's playing like a GG LF because hes not, quite the opposite actually.
he has some very loud skills  
RasputinPrime : 5/21/2022 1:35 pm : link
but he isn't a good player on a championship team. I'd be happy if they found a taker for him.
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