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NFT: Is Joey Gallo really that bad?

Kmed6000 : 5/20/2022 11:39 am
Lets look at the numbers...

.176/.294/.333 with a .627 OPS

119 PA's
102 AB's
18 Hits(12 singles, 1 double, 5 HR's)
4 of his 5 HR's were solo HR's
7 RBI
45 Strikeouts


So in conclusion, Gallo has gotten out 84 times and of those 84, 45 were strikeouts. An amazing 53% of his outs are strikeouts. Or 38% of the time he comes to the plate, it ends in a strikeout.

He's not a particularly good fielder, he doesn't seem to have a high baseball IQ. I'd say his ONLY good quality is that guys seem to like him. He has to be in the discussion as the one of the worst every day players in MLB. They need to replace this guy.

Yes, Joey Gallo is that bad.
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RE: the yankees  
cactus : 5/20/2022 3:23 pm : link
In comment 15714497 cactus said:
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thought they were getting Joey Callo


damn, this joke was made 3x above already :(
Is he blind ?  
averagejoe : 5/20/2022 4:05 pm : link
He has been awful. Shaky in LF and I'm shocked when he ever makes contact with the ball. Every 4th AB the ball hits his bat accidentally .
RE: Is he blind ?  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 4:11 pm : link
In comment 15714525 averagejoe said:
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He has been awful. Shaky in LF and I'm shocked when he ever makes contact with the ball. Every 4th AB the ball hits his bat accidentally .


I feel the same way. Only one of he and Hicks should be in the line up at the same time. Hence my preference to have Stanton play the outfield more often. They can do Gallo in left, Judge in CF and Stanton in RF. Do Stanton in LF, Hicks (puke) in CF and Judge in RF and then sprinkle in Gonzalez here and there and have Donaldson and whoever is off between Stanton and Judge as DH.

At 3B, Donaldson can split time with DJ and Marwin, and DJ can relieve Rizzo making him a DH.

Having both Hicks and Gallo in the outfield and lineup at the same time doesnt make any sense to me. Right now, neither are good ball players.
RE: Well, I'm not Jerry Gallo  
BH28 : 5/20/2022 4:25 pm : link
In comment 15714303 Ben in Tampa said:
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I'm Jerry Callo!


Maybe we should call him Joey Gambini instead.
we knew what we were getting ...  
BCD : 5/20/2022 4:26 pm : link
when we got Gallo.....180 hitting avg....30 hr's and a strike out every 3 at bats....he'll get warm ...hot...and ice cold from time to time.
RE: Yes, he is that bad.  
Matt M. : 5/20/2022 5:12 pm : link
In comment 15714292 Ron from Ninerland said:
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He batted under .200 last year, under .200 in spring training and he's at barely .200 this year against mostly inferior competition . He has consistently struck out in 1/3 of his plate appearances and he's an average at best outfielder. I can understand showing patience with Hicks and Higgy but not Gallo. He's not going to get better. This is who he is.
Why would you be any more patient with Hicks or Higashioka? Both have sucked for longer and neither has ever been as good as Gallo when he was an all star.
RE: Its not like Gallo is some GG left fielder.  
Kyle in NY : 5/20/2022 5:32 pm : link
In comment 15714436 Kmed6000 said:
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I am not impressed at all with Gallo. I know he had a good reputation as a fielder before he came to the Yankees, but I don't see it. He looks lost out there most of the time. If I'm making the lineups, I'd have Stanton as my primary LF right now. I'd put Gallo on the bench as my 4th/5th OF at this point.


I'm not a huge Gallo fan, it hasn't worked out in NY at all, but he literally did win the last two gold gloves in LF
RE: RE: Yes, he is that bad.  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 5:39 pm : link
In comment 15714562 Matt M. said:
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He batted under .200 last year, under .200 in spring training and he's at barely .200 this year against mostly inferior competition . He has consistently struck out in 1/3 of his plate appearances and he's an average at best outfielder. I can understand showing patience with Hicks and Higgy but not Gallo. He's not going to get better. This is who he is.

Why would you be any more patient with Hicks or Higashioka? Both have sucked for longer and neither has ever been as good as Gallo when he was an all star.


Hicks DIDNT always suck. He was hitting for decent average, with power, could steal bases, was a great fielding OF with best arm in MLB who was also a switch hitter. For 10 mill a year, thats decent value. The length of the contract was/is questionable. But Hicks'contract at the time he signed it was very acceptable amongst Yankees fans and he only missed 6 games of the COVID season.

THEN the wheels started coming off with the surgery and now this season. But he has a career WAR over 12....so its not like hes a scrub that lucked into a deal.

Both players SHOULD be better, unfortunately, Hicks looks completely done in terms of what he brings offensively and defensively.....but we'll pay him starting CF money until 2026
RE: RE: Its not like Gallo is some GG left fielder.  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 5:44 pm : link
In comment 15714575 Kyle in NY said:
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I am not impressed at all with Gallo. I know he had a good reputation as a fielder before he came to the Yankees, but I don't see it. He looks lost out there most of the time. If I'm making the lineups, I'd have Stanton as my primary LF right now. I'd put Gallo on the bench as my 4th/5th OF at this point.



I'm not a huge Gallo fan, it hasn't worked out in NY at all, but he literally did win the last two gold gloves in LF


Am I a moron for not understanding how Gallo and Benintendi can win the GG in 2021 playing the same position? Or did Gallo win it in RF?????
Not mocking you Kyle....  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 5:45 pm : link
Just am confused when I looked it up because I knew that AB won one in 2021 for LF.
Okay.....so a but mistaken Kyle,  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 5:47 pm : link
Gallo won his GG last year for RF, which is fine. Little doff, but I was comfused for a minute.
RE: RE: RE: Yes, he is that bad.  
Matt M. : 5/20/2022 5:51 pm : link
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He batted under .200 last year, under .200 in spring training and he's at barely .200 this year against mostly inferior competition . He has consistently struck out in 1/3 of his plate appearances and he's an average at best outfielder. I can understand showing patience with Hicks and Higgy but not Gallo. He's not going to get better. This is who he is.

Why would you be any more patient with Hicks or Higashioka? Both have sucked for longer and neither has ever been as good as Gallo when he was an all star.



Hicks DIDNT always suck. He was hitting for decent average, with power, could steal bases, was a great fielding OF with best arm in MLB who was also a switch hitter. For 10 mill a year, thats decent value. The length of the contract was/is questionable. But Hicks'contract at the time he signed it was very acceptable amongst Yankees fans and he only missed 6 games of the COVID season.

THEN the wheels started coming off with the surgery and now this season. But he has a career WAR over 12....so its not like hes a scrub that lucked into a deal.

Both players SHOULD be better, unfortunately, Hicks looks completely done in terms of what he brings offensively and defensively.....but we'll pay him starting CF money until 2026
Hicks had 1 good season. The rest have bad to mediocre. And now his fielding leaves a lot to be desired. He is not a good player.
Im not arguing with you, I think Cash  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 6:02 pm : link
Def shot for the moon hoping this guy would keep trending upwards....he hit 56 homers from '17-19 and that with defense, base stealing at 10 mill per prob seemed like a bargain at the time.

Just another bad contract and bad decision. Just how much longer do we compound it by risking losses on the field in addition to the checkbook. I dont see him turning this level of poor play around.
RE: Look at the Standings  
GruningsOnTheHill : 5/20/2022 6:12 pm : link
In comment 15714440 Samiam said:
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Why would they change anything?

None of us has a crystal ball, but a .750 winning percentage over the course of 160 games is not likely to be sustainable. Getting deep into the playoffs with liabilities at 2 of the 3 OF positions will be tough.
RE: RE: Look at the Standings  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 6:13 pm : link
In comment 15714596 GruningsOnTheHill said:
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Why would they change anything?


None of us has a crystal ball, but a .750 winning percentage over the course of 160 games is not likely to be sustainable. Getting deep into the playoffs with liabilities at 2 of the 3 OF positions will be tough.


Couldnt have said better myself.
I dont know much about the source, but  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 6:19 pm : link
The writer seems to bring a lot to this article. I also know I have caught in advocating for AB, but these are the numbers that had been standing out to me as well. Hes performed well in KC this far. Would probably have to take more than just a little more than Beck Way, but losing AB for nothing is a worse concept.
Benintendi for Way? - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Yes, he is that bad.  
Ron from Ninerland : 5/20/2022 7:01 pm : link
In comment 15714562 Matt M. said:
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He batted under .200 last year, under .200 in spring training and he's at barely .200 this year against mostly inferior competition . He has consistently struck out in 1/3 of his plate appearances and he's an average at best outfielder. I can understand showing patience with Hicks and Higgy but not Gallo. He's not going to get better. This is who he is.

Why would you be any more patient with Hicks or Higashioka? Both have sucked for longer and neither has ever been as good as Gallo when he was an all star.
I'm not terribly optimistic about either of them, but we're stuck with Hicks anyway, and he's healthy for the first time in years so maybe he improves. We're also stuck with Higgy considering what a miserable bust Rortvedt has turned out to be. He too has shown flashes of offense in the past. As for Gallo, he should be DFA'd the minute Florial or anybody else shows a pulse or Cashman can find another scrap.
So Rortvedt is a buust now  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 7:12 pm : link
Just terrific...guy has had an oblique (which is extra tricky for catchers) and just got scoped.

But sure lets start filling in the hole already.
RE: So Rortvedt is a buust now  
Ron from Ninerland : 5/20/2022 7:48 pm : link
In comment 15714631 FrankHuntington said:
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Just terrific...guy has had an oblique (which is extra tricky for catchers) and just got scoped.

But sure lets start filling in the hole already.
Rortvedt looked like Luke Voit 2.0 to begin with. We found out when we got him that he had an oblique injury that dates back before the trade. It was almost two months from the time the injury was revealed before he could even play in rehab games, probably much longer from when he suffered it. Then he immediately comes up with a torn meniscus. An injury like that is a show stopper for a catcher. So yeah, he's a bust.
RE: So Rortvedt is a buust now  
Ron from Ninerland : 5/20/2022 7:55 pm : link
In comment 15714631 FrankHuntington said:
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Just terrific...guy has had an oblique (which is extra tricky for catchers) and just got scoped.

But sure lets start filling in the hole already.
And since you have shown that you need to have the last word, perhaps you can explain why an oblique is tricky for catchers ? When the injury was reported it was said that he could not swing the bat, but he was continuing with catching drills. One thing is for sure, a torn meniscus definitely will affect his ability to bend and crouch. Unless he has remarkable recuperative abilities he won't be catching this year.
RE: RE: So Rortvedt is a buust now  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 8:55 pm : link
In comment 15714654 Ron from Ninerland said:
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Just terrific...guy has had an oblique (which is extra tricky for catchers) and just got scoped.

But sure lets start filling in the hole already.

And since you have shown that you need to have the last word, perhaps you can explain why an oblique is tricky for catchers ? When the injury was reported it was said that he could not swing the bat, but he was continuing with catching drills. One thing is for sure, a torn meniscus definitely will affect his ability to bend and crouch. Unless he has remarkable recuperative abilities he won't be catching this year.


Because an oblique has a distinct impact on throwing mechanics where if you rush back from one, you risk further injury.....they have to be given more time than most. And given thats the only stand out part of his game, Im not ready to call a 24 y/o catcher who from all I am told, is great from behind the plate.

He got scoped....its not like it was a catastrophic tear. We might have nothing in Rortvedt but its not much different than what we would be getting from Higgy and hes gone after this year
RE: RE: So Rortvedt is a buust now  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 8:59 pm : link
In comment 15714654 Ron from Ninerland said:
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Just terrific...guy has had an oblique (which is extra tricky for catchers) and just got scoped.

But sure lets start filling in the hole already.

And since you have shown that you need to have the last word, perhaps you can explain why an oblique is tricky for catchers ? When the injury was reported it was said that he could not swing the bat, but he was continuing with catching drills. One thing is for sure, a torn meniscus definitely will affect his ability to bend and crouch. Unless he has remarkable recuperative abilities he won't be catching this year.


You DO realize what the oblique does as far naseball dont you? Pretty much the entire swing of a bat or throwing delivery is governed at its core by the oblique. You could get away with an obique strain in basketball, but not baseball
Higgy’s under team control through 2025  
wigs in nyc : 5/20/2022 9:01 pm : link
should the team desire to keep him that long. He’s only in his first arbitration year.

Trevino hasn’t even hit arbitration yet, and wouldn’t hit FA until after the 2026 season.

RE: Higgy’s under team control through 2025  
FrankHuntington : 5/20/2022 10:12 pm : link
In comment 15714712 wigs in nyc said:
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should the team desire to keep him that long. He’s only in his first arbitration year.

Trevino hasn’t even hit arbitration yet, and wouldn’t hit FA until after the 2026 season.


I guess my point is going forward withOUT Higgy as part of the equation. Trevino is the better player imo and would hope we would find a better alt than Higgy next season
RE: RE: actually Gallo is pretty good  
Stu11 : 5/21/2022 9:19 am : link
In comment 15714371 Mad Mike said:
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But even in Texas he was a low obp guy, and far from a poster child for three true outcomes. And as a Yankee, he's stunk.

In 2019 his opb was .389 and before the trade last year it was .379. so I wouldn't say he was a low obp guy. Listen he's stunk as a Yankee, there's no denying that but all the people saying the trade didn't make sense are playing revisionist history. We needed a left handed stick and Cash felt his bat was perfect for YS. He also has always been very good in the OF and that has dropped off too. It's another Sony Gray situation. We thought we were getting one thing based on his career and we got something totally different. Oh well we'll probably move on, if not in season then definitely in the off season. All this hand wringing is a waste of time and energy.
RE: RE: Its not like Gallo is some GG left fielder.  
Kmed6000 : 5/21/2022 9:58 am : link
In comment 15714575 Kyle in NY said:
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I am not impressed at all with Gallo. I know he had a good reputation as a fielder before he came to the Yankees, but I don't see it. He looks lost out there most of the time. If I'm making the lineups, I'd have Stanton as my primary LF right now. I'd put Gallo on the bench as my 4th/5th OF at this point.



I'm not a huge Gallo fan, it hasn't worked out in NY at all, but he literally did win the last two gold gloves in LF


I understand he won GG, but so did Rafael Palmiero and he played like 20 games in the field 1 year. GG is about as useful an indication as all-star. That being said, I meant on the yankees. Its not like he's playing like a GG LF because hes not, quite the opposite actually.
he has some very loud skills  
RasputinPrime : 5/21/2022 1:35 pm : link
but he isn't a good player on a championship team. I'd be happy if they found a taker for him.
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