My friend. Rangers had a huge chance in game 1. Didn’t take advantage of it. They are going to be more aggressive today. IMO…not a good move against this team. Rangers might get exposed today.
My friend. Rangers had a huge chance in game 1. Didn’t take advantage of it. They are going to be more aggressive today. IMO…not a good move against this team. Rangers might get exposed today.
Its not just that comment. You've been negative all year about a 110 point team
The Canes were supposed to run us out of their building. Both games were very close. Lost game one in OT and it was 1-0 until the open net goal. Yes, the top line has not produced but even with that the games were very competitive.
My friend. Rangers had a huge chance in game 1. Didn’t take advantage of it. They are going to be more aggressive today. IMO…not a good move against this team. Rangers might get exposed today.
Prob win 2 games in series. Don't want to be right but ... Hope!
Agreed 100%.
Love my Canes but man they have been ugly on the road since March. Only 7-10 and a few of those seven wins were terrible wins. The power play has also sucked big time on the road.
One big thing the Canes have going for them is that they know if they want to win a cup. They will have to start winning on the road.
I am sure that Rod as driven that into their skulls.
Amazing the criticism this guy takes on here. He is one of the best 2 way players in the league. He was by far the best player on the ice in that period. Wish he buried that one late. On the other hand, Trouba was an absolute disaster in that period.
Amazing the criticism this guy takes on here. He is one of the best 2 way players in the league. He was by far the best player on the ice in that period. Wish he buried that one late. On the other hand, Trouba was an absolute disaster in that period.
them. Carolina has been in their heads all year. I’f they get to 2-2, they have a good shot. 44 shots way too may though.
Rangers “should have” too much skill for Carolina.
Reaves is on the ice with 12 seconds to go. Game is over. Perfect opportunity after Domi hits Lindgren to do something. If he doesn’t take some liberties there and make a little statement there is no need for him to be on the ice.
Reaves is on the ice with 12 seconds to go. Game is over. Perfect opportunity after Domi hits Lindgren to do something. If he doesn’t take some liberties there and make a little statement there is no need for him to be on the ice.
I didn't even notice Reaves was on the ice. What was he doing? I missed it.
Wasn't it Panarin's pass to Mika that led to score one?
So we get a nice scoring play once every 4 games? K.
Kid line was great again. Kaako has to work on his shooting and getting it on net.
Miller played quite well. Boy do we need a guy who can win some faceoffs.
A certain someone may not want to hear it, but I think K'Andre has been our best/most consistent defenseman in the Playoffs thus far.
I love Miller and I think he'll be good in the NHL but he still has at least one play almost every game that reminds you he's a converted forward (and he shouldn't still have those IMO). Today it was the Svechnikov toe drag.
He's probably the most athletic player on the team, and he's got a rare combination of size, speed, hands I would almost want to see him back at forward, but it's been longer that's he's been on D then some people realize (it's been 6 or 7 years now, and those are basically full time years not youth hockey years).
instead of Trouba you and anyone else who thinks that is out of your mind.
Trouba has 42 hits in 9 playoff games and 18 blocked shots. He leads all teams in the entire playoffs in hits.
Miller has 17 hits and 9 blocked shots in roughly the same TOI.
Those stats matter.
Trouba is probably reason #2 after Igor why CAR isn't scoring.
Miller has def not been better than Trouba. Trouba has been rock solid. Schneider was a fireball today. Get him a better LD and he can really open up..
think you know you're preaching to the choir as far as JT is concerned. And we pretty much see KAM the same way (doofus has a DJ like obsession with him, just flat out and terribly wrong): where we do differ is why/whether KAM should, by now, have been able to shake the bad misplays. They were occurring with alarming regularity in the first third of the season, so much so that in one game, Igor, holding the puck behind his own net, needing to clear, looked toward the left circle boards, saw KAM, unchecked, said, 'Nah!!', and went the other way. It was so transparent for all to see that even Nicoletti smirked.
But he has been way better than that, and way more physical than given credit for: stepped into Evgeni at GL and leveled him, swept across the slot on Jarvis who had a clean break on right wing and crumpled him. But he's still learning the position, imo, it's not (yet??) instinctive, and he makes wrong breaks, takes wrong angles, still learning the League and personnel, imo. He's 22, and he and JT have been the best pair in these Playoffs.
The Rangers have done a sound job in all three games, IMO. Carolina has one goal in each game outside of an ENG in game 2. Rangers could legitimately be up 3-0 right now if they would have played offensively in Game 1 and Game 2 like they did today.
Outside of Game 6 in PIT, Rangers have been every bit as shaky on the road as Carolina.
Need another home win Tuesday and then you get best of three.
think you know you're preaching to the choir as far as JT is concerned. And we pretty much see KAM the same way (doofus has a DJ like obsession with him, just flat out and terribly wrong): where we do differ is why/whether KAM should, by now, have been able to shake the bad misplays. They were occurring with alarming regularity in the first third of the season, so much so that in one game, Igor, holding the puck behind his own net, needing to clear, looked toward the left circle boards, saw KAM, unchecked, said, 'Nah!!', and went the other way. It was so transparent for all to see that even Nicoletti smirked.
But he has been way better than that, and way more physical than given credit for: stepped into Evgeni at GL and leveled him, swept across the slot on Jarvis who had a clean break on right wing and crumpled him. But he's still learning the position, imo, it's not (yet??) instinctive, and he makes wrong breaks, takes wrong angles, still learning the League and personnel, imo. He's 22, and he and JT have been the best pair in these Playoffs.
Great post, CHP, and I should clarify my POV, I think Miller is playing top pair quality level - he's playing that good, I do think Trouba covers for him a little, but he's playing well.
I just think physicality on D comes only after confidence and improvement with things like gap control. So while I don't think Miller should still make the poke check look at the puck gaffes like on the Svechnikov toe drag, *I do* think he is still getting that comfort level to be more physical - and I agree with you it will happen.
We saw it with Schneider vs the Pens (and Schneider was always a D) where Schneider hesitated deciding whether to pinch or get back and I forget who - Malkin (?) cruised right past him for a goal.
The Rangers have done a sound job in all three games, IMO. Carolina has one goal in each game outside of an ENG in game 2. Rangers could legitimately be up 3-0 right now if they would have played offensively in Game 1 and Game 2 like they did today.
Outside of Game 6 in PIT, Rangers have been every bit as shaky on the road as Carolina.
Need another home win Tuesday and then you get best of three.
While the best pair I agree, I dont thing two players compliment each other on the rangers than Miller and Schneider should be explored as a pairing. If Jones can take another step, put him with Trouba.
To multiple questions by the beats, immediately after the game one-on-one on MSG feed, and then later for the wider presser, Kreider answered, parried, multiple questions with the same words: "We can't just sit back" (some formulation of that thought), at least six, seven times. He said the same in PGs in Raleigh, in Pittsburgh. He keeps saying it, as an individual, as a line, as a team, we can't play passive. What can possibly make that mindset so deeply ingrained that he has to try to talk himself out of it? And when you see him and Zib, side by side in their mutual admiration society, all soft and gooey, it strikes me as so complacent, as if they read their press clippings and are steeped in complacency. Instead, instead of getting full bore up and attack each and every game of each and every series. Or, because to some observers they shouldn't be here, were never expected to get to SCP let alone 2nd round, they're counting house money?
I was going to post something like this after Game 2, but it was already so negative here it would have been just throwing so much more gasoline on the fire. Someone dissed Brendan Smith and his gwg by saying, of all Canes the scrub scores it. He played d and filled in as F two years ago here. Left as FA (I think). When asked after 2nd period of Game 1 what the Canes had to do to get back in the game, he was full of fire and resolve. Boom. I wish some of NYR leaders in the room showed more of that fire, on and off.
this team needs a number 1 center man. Carolina is very good at taking center ice away ( like the Devils used to to win multiple cups). Take it away and the Rangers attack is shut down
Emma Vigeland
@EmmaVigeland
May 21
K’Andre Miller has been the best Ranger in the playoffs and it’s odd to me that this isn’t talked about more.
John
@92In82
May 21
K’Andre Miller has been the team’s best and most consistent defender for the almost 2 months now, playoffs included. If his partner was even average, everyone would be raving about his play. #NYR
K'Andre was the one who scored the tying goal in Game 7 (albeit off of Matheson's skate). K'Andre was the one who drew the penalty that led to Panarin's series-winning goal. K'Andre was the one who flashed that closing speed against Seth Jarvis in Game 1 to keep it 1-0 NYR.
The kid is only 22. He's only been playing D for what? 5 years? It's insane to think where he'll be in 3 years from now. He's been phenomenal and it's totally absurd that someone keeps harping on his shortcomings.
this team needs a number 1 center man. Carolina is very good at taking center ice away ( like the Devils used to to win multiple cups). Take it away and the Rangers attack is shut down
That's going to be priority #1. A defensively-responsible 2C. That would've been Danault if we had money for him last offseason. That may be Copp next year. It certainly isn't and won't be Strome.
The Rangers have done a sound job in all three games, IMO. Carolina has one goal in each game outside of an ENG in game 2. Rangers could legitimately be up 3-0 right now if they would have played offensively in Game 1 and Game 2 like they did today.
Outside of Game 6 in PIT, Rangers have been every bit as shaky on the road as Carolina.
Need another home win Tuesday and then you get best of three.
While the best pair I agree, I dont thing two players compliment each other on the rangers than Miller and Schneider should be explored as a pairing. If Jones can take another step, put him with Trouba.
I tend to agree. Next year. Those pairings should provide better balance.
Emma Vigeland
@EmmaVigeland
May 21
K’Andre Miller has been the best Ranger in the playoffs and it’s odd to me that this isn’t talked about more.
John
@92In82
May 21
K’Andre Miller has been the team’s best and most consistent defender for the almost 2 months now, playoffs included. If his partner was even average, everyone would be raving about his play. #NYR
K'Andre was the one who scored the tying goal in Game 7 (albeit off of Matheson's skate). K'Andre was the one who drew the penalty that led to Panarin's series-winning goal. K'Andre was the one who flashed that closing speed against Seth Jarvis in Game 1 to keep it 1-0 NYR.
The kid is only 22. He's only been playing D for what? 5 years? It's insane to think where he'll be in 3 years from now. He's been phenomenal and it's totally absurd that someone keeps harping on his shortcomings.
Wait....nobody is criticizing you for that take ....yet, but Trouba has been on both special teams, has carried the physical play....Trouba has a lot more going 9n. Both have been been good, but because a reporter brings up a play off the skates and a drawn penaly...thats a reach.
everyone has. As for Miller, I constantly remind myself that this should’ve been his rookie season and he never played a minute of minor league hockey.
Gutty, gritty win that often times wasn’t remotely pretty. Lots of blocked shots and deflections. I liked the lineup changes. They ended up getting more out of Chytil and Vatrano than before. The second line still gave them nothing and there’s still too much overpassing. Crazy how Shesty could give up a terrible goal and still have a great game.
Canes were real bitchasses at the end of the game. I hope someone crumples Tony D like aluminum foil. He’s complains all fucking game, every game. I don’t remember where, but someone said that the Canes commit a ton of interference penalties and dare the refs to call them. I never noticed until today.
Trouba has also made boo boos. Remember the Malkin breakaway?
And I'm not trashing Trouba. He's been our second best defenseman. I just think K'Andre has been the best one.
Shouldve said Miller has made more boo boos....remember the Rodrigues breakaway?
Dude, Trouba is more than just a little better than Miller right now. Miller is very good for a 22 year old, but Trouba is better at winning pucks, shooting pucks, physicality, positioning and deciding when to pinch
This Miller back n forth has to stop. Hes a nice defenseman, hes not better than Trouba.
Im happy to concede that he has been slightly better than Fox who is likely playing lame.
Trouba has also made boo boos. Remember the Malkin breakaway?
And I'm not trashing Trouba. He's been our second best defenseman. I just think K'Andre has been the best one.
Shouldve said Miller has made more boo boos....remember the Rodrigues breakaway?
Dude, Trouba is more than just a little better than Miller right now. Miller is very good for a 22 year old, but Trouba is better at winning pucks, shooting pucks, physicality, positioning and deciding when to pinch
This Miller back n forth has to stop. Hes a nice defenseman, hes not better than Trouba.
Im happy to concede that he has been slightly better than Fox who is likely playing lame.
I really don't think so. Does Trouba have certain advantages over Miller? Yes. But the opposite can be said as well. Trouba has the better physical presence? K'Andre is the better skater. Trouba has a better shot from the point? K'Andre has the better recovery speed...
Trouba had a better regular season than K'Andre, but he has not been better in the playoffs, IMO. In fact, weren't most of us (or at least I was) saying (tongue-in-cheek, of course) that it would've been to the Rangers benefit if Trouba was actually suspended for the Crosby hit because Trouba had subsequently been playing somewhat poorly?
want to win this series and in hockey any team can win thats in the playoffs but watching the other series and other teams I really think both are below almost everyone else left. Carolina played a decent game today on the road but they have been brutal for almost 3 months on the road and while both the Rangers and the Hurricanes would have the home ice advantage against the Lightning i'd favor the lightning to beat either one.
Trouba has also made boo boos. Remember the Malkin breakaway?
And I'm not trashing Trouba. He's been our second best defenseman. I just think K'Andre has been the best one.
Shouldve said Miller has made more boo boos....remember the Rodrigues breakaway?
Dude, Trouba is more than just a little better than Miller right now. Miller is very good for a 22 year old, but Trouba is better at winning pucks, shooting pucks, physicality, positioning and deciding when to pinch
This Miller back n forth has to stop. Hes a nice defenseman, hes not better than Trouba.
Im happy to concede that he has been slightly better than Fox who is likely playing lame.
I really don't think so. Does Trouba have certain advantages over Miller? Yes. But the opposite can be said as well. Trouba has the better physical presence? K'Andre is the better skater. Trouba has a better shot from the point? K'Andre has the better recovery speed...
Trouba had a better regular season than K'Andre, but he has not been better in the playoffs, IMO. In fact, weren't most of us (or at least I was) saying (tongue-in-cheek, of course) that it would've been to the Rangers benefit if Trouba was actually suspended for the Crosby hit because Trouba had subsequently been playing somewhat poorly?
I really dont know what game you're watching if you think that. Sure, Miller has better recovery speed, but in every other aspect of the game Ttouba has been far better. Again, plays on both special teams, if far more involved in the offense. He also had lost his man often enough to be annoying during the Pitt series.
Agains, you keep mentioning skating when Im not really sure you know what a good skater is because you constantly refer to speed. Part of skating is not ove-skating, which I think Miller does a lot. He also gets skating with the puck and he is so focused on his outskating the other guy that he doesnt make the best play with the puck. Its basically the polar opposite of what Fox does.
Miller, while I love how hes progressed, has more holes as a D man than Trouba. Theres also a reason why Gallant doesnt want him to be the only D out there on PP2 despite having better off insincts than Trouba.
want to win this series and in hockey any team can win thats in the playoffs but watching the other series and other teams I really think both are below almost everyone else left. Carolina played a decent game today on the road but they have been brutal for almost 3 months on the road and while both the Rangers and the Hurricanes would have the home ice advantage against the Lightning i'd favor the lightning to beat either one.
I honestly thing the Rangers match up well with TB.
Emma Vigeland
@EmmaVigeland
May 21
K’Andre Miller has been the best Ranger in the playoffs and it’s odd to me that this isn’t talked about more.
John
@92In82
May 21
K’Andre Miller has been the team’s best and most consistent defender for the almost 2 months now, playoffs included. If his partner was even average, everyone would be raving about his play. #NYR
K'Andre was the one who scored the tying goal in Game 7 (albeit off of Matheson's skate). K'Andre was the one who drew the penalty that led to Panarin's series-winning goal. K'Andre was the one who flashed that closing speed against Seth Jarvis in Game 1 to keep it 1-0 NYR.
The kid is only 22. He's only been playing D for what? 5 years? It's insane to think where he'll be in 3 years from now. He's been phenomenal and it's totally absurd that someone keeps harping on his shortcomings.
Congrats, you found two people who, like you, dont understand what you are watching
Emma Vigeland
@EmmaVigeland
May 21
K’Andre Miller has been the best Ranger in the playoffs and it’s odd to me that this isn’t talked about more.
John
@92In82
May 21
K’Andre Miller has been the team’s best and most consistent defender for the almost 2 months now, playoffs included. If his partner was even average, everyone would be raving about his play. #NYR
K'Andre was the one who scored the tying goal in Game 7 (albeit off of Matheson's skate). K'Andre was the one who drew the penalty that led to Panarin's series-winning goal. K'Andre was the one who flashed that closing speed against Seth Jarvis in Game 1 to keep it 1-0 NYR.
The kid is only 22. He's only been playing D for what? 5 years? It's insane to think where he'll be in 3 years from now. He's been phenomenal and it's totally absurd that someone keeps harping on his shortcomings.
Congrats, you found two people who, like you, dont understand what you are watching
Here he is again....the guy who tells everybody they dont know what they are watching despite having never played the sport and touting an illustrious career as a little league announcer in VT.
You are wrong about everything Flablats. You suck at hockey analysis and are contradicted on every point you make.
I picture Rob Schneider from Necessary Roughness whenever I see you post.
Poor Frank. Thats right, I did broadcast little league games. And high school games, college games, and minor league games. I also hosted national sportsradio shows and did national sportsradio updates. I have also coached for 30 years and taught PE for 15 years. I accomplished things in my life that you have no hope of doing
All you did was play in high school. Like millions of others. And you have clearly established that you have no idea what you are watching
Poor Frank. Thats right, I did broadcast little league games. And high school games, college games, and minor league games. I also hosted national sportsradio shows and did national sportsradio updates. I have also coached for 30 years and taught PE for 15 years. I accomplished things in my life that you have no hope of doing
All you did was play in high school. Like millions of others. And you have clearly established that you have no idea what you are watching
Lmao.....taught PE!!!!!
Dude you are literally the most poorly informed poster on this board. By your standards, Sean McDonough knows more about hockey than guys who actually played it like pj and CHP. I wont talk about myself but if you ask around, New England Prep school hockey is a pretty high level. I never got the chance to play Mt. St. Charles but played Taft, St. Sebatiians and Moses Brown. So I DO know what Im talking about.
You have called out k Miller, you have been wrong. You have said the Rangers should dump and chase against a faster team, that too is wrong. You have associated dumping and chasing as a univerally accepted offensive strategy the Canes employ when thats not it at all. They get in the zone, fire it at the net or the back boards and and flood the area with forechecking forwards. That is something the Rangers are not built to do. You have not been right about one single thing you have posted about and yet you stay with the same refrain...."you don't know what you're watching" and that is your walk away along with that you commentated for little league, taught gym class and probably announced Waterbury football games. Guess what? Nobody cares.
You said on the rules quiz that the situation in question happened during a game and you had to look it up after it happened and you FORGOT what that rule was. Sorry, but not only should you have known what the ruling should be, but you would have never forgotten such a unique circumstance ever again had someone asked you about it.
I think you are totally full of shit and you know NOTHING about hockey.
Go find a kickball game to referee and then tell all the participants your glory days about being the announcer for the ultra competitive Waterloo Roopty Roos Under 15 team league that John LeClairskated on the ice before the Roos went out for a pre game skate.
I never said I looked up the rule. Perhaps someone should read to you what I wrote in that thread since you obviously cant comprehend anything. Your entire diatribe is completely wrong
You couldnt do half the things Ive accomplished in sports. Hell, you couldnt do ANY of them. You cant even read. Instead, you just keep posting incorrect opinions of hockey, which is your right.
I never even addressed you in this thread, but you felt the need to attack me
Nobody knows what they're wat hing, and you are a sports god nobody can comprehend.....who teaches gym. Lol.
I would say that I will never address you again, but you are bound to say something else that is incredibly stupid that makes it too difficult to resist.
Im going to give it a try....to resist sports ideas I havent even dreamed of. Do me a favor, change your underwear tomorrow and clean up all the empty food containers off your desk before you go proctor dodgeball tomorrow morning....you know, set a good example for the kids.
And I notice you dont bring up my coaching, or my sportscasting - many years of which were play by play and many years on the national level
You arent qualified to do any of it, not even close. In fact, I was also a stock broker and banker - two more things you could never do
I also didnt bring up your astro-physics degree nor did I thank you for your role in defeating Thanos. The Avengers never couldve done it with out your distracting the big guyy by reading your exhaustive resume.
"If his partner was even average.."????? That's a fucking ridiculous thing to say.
I invest very little of my bandwidth in considering FIRST BEST, SECOND BEST, WORSEST, THIRD BADDEST because I have a second grader at home to worry about that kind of shit...I don't find it the least bit insightful. But Trouba has been pretty fucking good for this team.
Panarin again infuriating, just wont shoot. still too many times they try for the cross ice pass in the neutral zone or at the blue line, but overall a solid game.
Miller is a player. And he's only going to get better with experience. They have a nice top 4 on D
Nice seeing Braun with Schneider rather than Nemeth.
We now know for sure that Tie is Max's father. No need for a DNA test. What a jerk.
than some other sports, NCAA (where Miller played two years) is equivalent to minor leagues. So saying Miller didn't play minors (indicating he went straight to the NHL is accurate, but it is a little disingenuous.)
NCAA is rated above the OHL (the best of the Canadian Juniors leagues) and just below the AHL.
Panarin again infuriating, just wont shoot. still too many times they try for the cross ice pass in the neutral zone or at the blue line, but overall a solid game.
Miller is a player. And he's only going to get better with experience. They have a nice top 4 on D
Nice seeing Braun with Schneider rather than Nemeth.
We now know for sure that Tie is Max's father. No need for a DNA test. What a jerk.
That play where he tried to toe drag around a sliding Smith or Skjei made me completely forget about his pass on the PP to Zib
RE: RE: You have zero qualifications to teach anything
And I notice you dont bring up my coaching, or my sportscasting - many years of which were play by play and many years on the national level
You arent qualified to do any of it, not even close. In fact, I was also a stock broker and banker - two more things you could never do
I also didnt bring up your astro-physics degree nor did I thank you for your role in defeating Thanos. The Avengers never couldve done it with out your distracting the big guyy by reading your exhaustive resume.
Thanks for being a part of humanity.
This is a great post!! Literally spit my coffee out.
I just picture some guy in Mom's basement trying to figure out what next to add to his resume all while screaming up for more Cream and Wheat. RIP John Clayton - you've inspired at least one guy!
RE: RE: You have zero qualifications to teach anything
And I notice you dont bring up my coaching, or my sportscasting - many years of which were play by play and many years on the national level
You arent qualified to do any of it, not even close. In fact, I was also a stock broker and banker - two more things you could never do
I also didnt bring up your astro-physics degree nor did I thank you for your role in defeating Thanos. The Avengers never couldve done it with out your distracting the big guyy by reading your exhaustive resume.
Wasn't it Panarin's pass to Mika that led to score one?
So we get a nice scoring play once every 4 games? K.
Kid line was great again. Kaako has to work on his shooting and getting it on net.
Miller played quite well. Boy do we need a guy who can win some faceoffs.
A certain someone may not want to hear it, but I think K'Andre has been our best/most consistent defenseman in the Playoffs thus far.
I love Miller and I think he'll be good in the NHL but he still has at least one play almost every game that reminds you he's a converted forward (and he shouldn't still have those IMO). Today it was the Svechnikov toe drag.
He's probably the most athletic player on the team, and he's got a rare combination of size, speed, hands I would almost want to see him back at forward, but it's been longer that's he's been on D then some people realize (it's been 6 or 7 years now, and those are basically full time years not youth hockey years).
I think Miller's going to be a stud. I think he's a solid second pairing dman now but he has one or two brain dead plays a game.
I agree with you on the F->D thing, but would add Burns took awhile to get going. Miller has elite raw skills, is getting better at the defensive reads, but still makes a handful of dumb plays a game - I'd add, though, that sometimes the forward makes the wrong read but Miller gets the blame. I think our forwards have been poor defensively at times this post-season.
And I notice you dont bring up my coaching, or my sportscasting - many years of which were play by play and many years on the national level
You arent qualified to do any of it, not even close. In fact, I was also a stock broker and banker - two more things you could never do
I also didnt bring up your astro-physics degree nor did I thank you for your role in defeating Thanos. The Avengers never couldve done it with out your distracting the big guyy by reading your exhaustive resume.
Thanks for being a part of humanity.
This is a great post!! Literally spit my coffee out.
I just picture some guy in Mom's basement trying to figure out what next to add to his resume all while screaming up for more Cream and Wheat. RIP John Clayton - you've inspired at least one guy!
To multiple questions by the beats, immediately after the game one-on-one on MSG feed, and then later for the wider presser, Kreider answered, parried, multiple questions with the same words: "We can't just sit back" (some formulation of that thought), at least six, seven times. He said the same in PGs in Raleigh, in Pittsburgh. He keeps saying it, as an individual, as a line, as a team, we can't play passive. What can possibly make that mindset so deeply ingrained that he has to try to talk himself out of it? And when you see him and Zib, side by side in their mutual admiration society, all soft and gooey, it strikes me as so complacent, as if they read their press clippings and are steeped in complacency. Instead, instead of getting full bore up and attack each and every game of each and every series. Or, because to some observers they shouldn't be here, were never expected to get to SCP let alone 2nd round, they're counting house money?
I was going to post something like this after Game 2, but it was already so negative here it would have been just throwing so much more gasoline on the fire. Someone dissed Brendan Smith and his gwg by saying, of all Canes the scrub scores it. He played d and filled in as F two years ago here. Left as FA (I think). When asked after 2nd period of Game 1 what the Canes had to do to get back in the game, he was full of fire and resolve. Boom. I wish some of NYR leaders in the room showed more of that fire, on and off.
Biggest knock on Kreider throughout his whole career is that he gets too deep into his own head. It's always been mental with him.
Will be interesting to see what Gallant does with the lines. Clearly feels the are better defensively with the lines that played in Carolina (and the shots on goal from yesterday bear that out). And the Mika line was the only one of the new lines that really worked
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Panarin with possibly the worst 4-on-1 ever
Wasn't it Panarin's pass to Mika that led to score one?
So we get a nice scoring play once every 4 games? K.
Kid line was great again. Kaako has to work on his shooting and getting it on net.
Miller played quite well. Boy do we need a guy who can win some faceoffs.
A certain someone may not want to hear it, but I think K'Andre has been our best/most consistent defenseman in the Playoffs thus far.
I love Miller and I think he'll be good in the NHL but he still has at least one play almost every game that reminds you he's a converted forward (and he shouldn't still have those IMO). Today it was the Svechnikov toe drag.
He's probably the most athletic player on the team, and he's got a rare combination of size, speed, hands I would almost want to see him back at forward, but it's been longer that's he's been on D then some people realize (it's been 6 or 7 years now, and those are basically full time years not youth hockey years).
I think Miller's going to be a stud. I think he's a solid second pairing dman now but he has one or two brain dead plays a game.
I agree with you on the F->D thing, but would add Burns took awhile to get going. Miller has elite raw skills, is getting better at the defensive reads, but still makes a handful of dumb plays a game - I'd add, though, that sometimes the forward makes the wrong read but Miller gets the blame. I think our forwards have been poor defensively at times this post-season.
Burns is a great comp, and a lot of similarities between him and Miller - but Bruns didn't switch to D until the NHL (right?). So, Miller is a long-time D comparatively speaking.
I think Miller's going to be a stud. I think he's a solid second pairing dman now but he has one or two brain dead plays a game.
I agree with you on the F->D thing, but would add Burns took awhile to get going. Miller has elite raw skills, is getting better at the defensive reads, but still makes a handful of dumb plays a game - I'd add, though, that sometimes the forward makes the wrong read but Miller gets the blame. I think our forwards have been poor defensively at times this post-season.
Good with that, Brett.
As I've said before, 2nd line, Copp excepted for most part, are the worst offenders at leaving too much open ice for their matched line to counter and cross BL pretty unmolested. 1st line is inconsistent, at best, Zib usually being honest two-way. Kreider does it at times, when he feels like it, and it's very noticeable when he does.
Kids are working hard all over the ice. 4th line, thank God Motte is back healthy, are with his exception just not that good. Rooney, Hunt, McKegg, et al., with Reaves with his unique skill set.
I thought Gallant's honesty about moving Copp down was interesting: needed to win some faceoffs. And Copp, as he has since he got here, did that, better than anyone else on the team. He could have left Copp on the 2nd line and had him take them; was his thinking he didn't want to embarrass a vet? Strome has been the ever shrinking 2C this season; his play has been uniformly poor, and part of the Artemi bashing--pretty deserved in his own right--can I think be laid at the feet of his C.
Team has hard work to do on its core if they hope to move up from Playoff team to legit SCP contender. A ++, two-way player at each of C, wing, LD. And Igor is going to have to be paid, when? Presumptive Vezina winner, Hart finalist.
I love Motte but I thought he played poorly yesterday.
He had a couple nice blacks at the top of the circles at the end, but I agree he didnt have his usual jump.
I havent thought Copp has looked the same at all this series. I think he has been better by his linemates, but HE appears to be playing a little banged up....he looks a little slow.
I cant figure out Kreider this series. He is misplaying pucks, I haven't noticed him being has physical either. Hopefully he wakes up, because we need him on both ends to be a load.
Copp is definitely playing hurt.. but that's the case with a lot of guys at this point.
I wonder if Goodrow has any shot of getting back soon.
The Rangers have played a much stronger, cleaner game so far in this series than what we saw through the first 3 games vs. PIT. A good bit of missed opportunities.
Carolina attempted a lot of shots yesterday, but very few were quality looks.
Keep playing this way and give 60 minute efforts and we'll win this series.
Fox looks old and slow. He has to be hurt or just the physicality has taken its toll on him. I agree on Kreider… he hasn’t been the same physical presence on the ice (especially in front of the goal).
on ice last week; Subban mashed him from behind, up high and low at back of his knees, just a weird play. But it was like 2nd game of the season, so beginning of October? Been 7.5 months. Standard 'recovery' is 6. Playing shape?
No idea the severity of the tear, but the gating factor is rehab/regaining strength, and that's player dependent, player specific. Wouldn't rule him out by default.
on ice last week; Subban mashed him from behind, up high and low at back of his knees, just a weird play. But it was like 2nd game of the season, so beginning of October? Been 7.5 months. Standard 'recovery' is 6. Playing shape?
No idea the severity of the tear, but the gating factor is rehab/regaining strength, and that's player dependent, player specific. Wouldn't rule him out by default.
I think it was mid-Nov, but I get your point. Would be nice to get him back and on the 4th line.
I think it was mid-Nov, but I get your point. Would be nice to get him back and on the 4th line.
Frank, I think it was literally 2nd or 3rd game of the season; it stuck in my mind so cuz it was so early coming on the heels of much maligned Buch deal to malign it still more.
I thought sure it was the first Devils' game. My bad
I cheated CHP....went straight to the Google and it pulled up a Post article.
Thats the thing, while I understand that skaking does not imclude the abruptness nor need for explosion from the knee that football players need, I cant imagine he would be too comfortable taking a hit or if he slid into the goalie or boards....hes 25 and has his whole career ahead of him.
I would be shocked if he came back after 7.5 months.
Lindgren fan, but he has won me over this playoffs.
I think 1: seeing Nemeth take a regular shift helped Lindgren look better, but also 2: I'm a sucker for the grit/physical play - without being a punk - and the toughness of players in hockey playing through injury.
But I still would like to see Panarin on the 3rd or even 4th lines. Thoses have been quite active and he could find himself with quite a bit of space based on guys like Motte and Reaves digging out pucks. I would prefer not to break up the KIDS line, but think he could do well there too.
Lindgren fan, but he has won me over this playoffs.
I think 1: seeing Nemeth take a regular shift helped Lindgren look better, but also 2: I'm a sucker for the grit/physical play - without being a punk - and the toughness of players in hockey playing through injury.
He's definitely more valuable than I thought.
The Rangers are a very, very noticeably different team without him. He's not the best player, but he carries immense value to this particular roster.
There's no one who can step in and do what he does. We lose a major edge.
He's probably my favorite Ranger at this point. Such a tough dude.
on ice last week; Subban mashed him from behind, up high and low at back of his knees, just a weird play. But it was like 2nd game of the season, so beginning of October? Been 7.5 months. Standard 'recovery' is 6. Playing shape?
No idea the severity of the tear, but the gating factor is rehab/regaining strength, and that's player dependent, player specific. Wouldn't rule him out by default.
But I still would like to see Panarin on the 3rd or even 4th lines. Thoses have been quite active and he could find himself with quite a bit of space based on guys like Motte and Reaves digging out pucks. I would prefer not to break up the KIDS line, but think he could do well there too.
Chytil was a nice boost to Kreider and Zibanejad yesterday.
I like what Gallant did, and I think he will do it again. Makes them less predictable when it comes to matchups.
...The Rangers are a very, very noticeably different team without him. He's not the best player, but he carries immense value to this particular roster.
There's no one who can step in and do what he does. We lose a major edge.
He's probably my favorite Ranger at this point. Such a tough dude.
+1 to that and pj's taking notice (:
and not for nothing, Fox is a different player w/o him
not for the better; and seems sure he didn't fully heal
...The Rangers are a very, very noticeably different team without him. He's not the best player, but he carries immense value to this particular roster.
There's no one who can step in and do what he does. We lose a major edge.
He's probably my favorite Ranger at this point. Such a tough dude.
+1 to that and pj's taking notice (:
and not for nothing, Fox is a different player w/o him
not for the better; and seems sure he didn't fully heal
L8ndgren is Girardi lite (super lite). He takes a beating but is always going close to full speed. Only thing missing is Girardi would pop on in from the blue line once in a while.
came quickly for Girardi and it seems like fans don't have much time for nostalgia when players are past their prime and still drawing a paycheck, but in his prime Girardi was a shot blocking machine. Text book technique. He could put on a shot blocking clinic.
I don't see Lindgren like that - but Trouba absolutely is.
Anyway, when I think Girardi I think uncanny ability to block shots. I bet he is near the all-time leader in blocked shots.
came quickly for Girardi and it seems like fans don't have much time for nostalgia when players are past their prime and still drawing a paycheck, but in his prime Girardi was a shot blocking machine. Text book technique. He could put on a shot blocking clinic.
I don't see Lindgren like that - but Trouba absolutely is.
Anyway, when I think Girardi I think uncanny ability to block shots. I bet he is near the all-time leader in blocked shots.
He also had quite the underrated shot from the blue line.
But I still would like to see Panarin on the 3rd or even 4th lines. Thoses have been quite active and he could find himself with quite a bit of space based on guys like Motte and Reaves digging out pucks. I would prefer not to break up the KIDS line, but think he could do well there too.
I thought the same thing last night. So we're either both brilliant or both nuts.
Have you said anything positive about the Rangers all season? The team ended with 110 points but to listen to you they were like the Devils
So far 6 - 0 at home, 0 - 3 on the road.
Its not just that comment. You've been negative all year about a 110 point team
This is a newly discovered world, right?
Prob win 2 games in series. Don't want to be right but ... Hope!
Let's Go Rangers!!!!
So far 6 - 0 at home, 0 - 3 on the road.
Agreed 100%.
Love my Canes but man they have been ugly on the road since March. Only 7-10 and a few of those seven wins were terrible wins. The power play has also sucked big time on the road.
One big thing the Canes have going for them is that they know if they want to win a cup. They will have to start winning on the road.
I am sure that Rod as driven that into their skulls.
+1
Wasn't it Panarin's pass to Mika that led to score one?
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Wasn't it Panarin's pass to Mika that led to score one?
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Wasn't it Panarin's pass to Mika that led to score one?
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Yes, Panarin made a sweet cross ice pass pass on the PP to Mika.
"A bit" are the words for it. Simply must out-quick these guys for the remainder of this game.
Tell the Jerks to fuck off
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& 3 Canes 4 or 5 stools down the other way.
Tell the Jerks to fuck off
Might wait until we score another goal or win.
Ask them for their address
The thought crossed my mind, too
Hope this galvanizes the Rangers
Rangers “should have” too much skill for Carolina.
Reaves is on the ice with 12 seconds to go. Game is over. Perfect opportunity after Domi hits Lindgren to do something. If he doesn’t take some liberties there and make a little statement there is no need for him to be on the ice.
I didn't even notice Reaves was on the ice. What was he doing? I missed it.
Lovely.
Because we all know we dress him for his hockey skill.
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Wasn't it Panarin's pass to Mika that led to score one?
So we get a nice scoring play once every 4 games? K.
Kid line was great again. Kaako has to work on his shooting and getting it on net.
Miller played quite well. Boy do we need a guy who can win some faceoffs.
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Not even a shot.
Wasn't it Panarin's pass to Mika that led to score one?
So we get a nice scoring play once every 4 games? K.
Kid line was great again. Kaako has to work on his shooting and getting it on net.
Miller played quite well. Boy do we need a guy who can win some faceoffs.
A certain someone may not want to hear it, but I think K'Andre has been our best/most consistent defenseman in the Playoffs thus far.
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Not even a shot.
Wasn't it Panarin's pass to Mika that led to score one?
So we get a nice scoring play once every 4 games? K.
Kid line was great again. Kaako has to work on his shooting and getting it on net.
Miller played quite well. Boy do we need a guy who can win some faceoffs.
A certain someone may not want to hear it, but I think K'Andre has been our best/most consistent defenseman in the Playoffs thus far.
I love Miller and I think he'll be good in the NHL but he still has at least one play almost every game that reminds you he's a converted forward (and he shouldn't still have those IMO). Today it was the Svechnikov toe drag.
He's probably the most athletic player on the team, and he's got a rare combination of size, speed, hands I would almost want to see him back at forward, but it's been longer that's he's been on D then some people realize (it's been 6 or 7 years now, and those are basically full time years not youth hockey years).
He hasn't been perfect, but he's been our best defensive defenseman
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Not even a shot.
Wasn't it Panarin's pass to Mika that led to score one?
So we get a nice scoring play once every 4 games? K.
Kid line was great again. Kaako has to work on his shooting and getting it on net.
Miller played quite well. Boy do we need a guy who can win some faceoffs.
I think Miller has been fine. Keep in mind this is his 2nd season.
We really need a Center and a LD.
Trouba has 42 hits in 9 playoff games and 18 blocked shots. He leads all teams in the entire playoffs in hits.
Miller has 17 hits and 9 blocked shots in roughly the same TOI.
Those stats matter.
Trouba is probably reason #2 after Igor why CAR isn't scoring.
Reeves was also being held back by an official. Smart of Reeves not to get a penalty for shoving him.
Trouba has 42 hits in 9 playoff games and 18 blocked shots. He leads all teams in the entire playoffs in hits.
Miller has 17 hits and 9 blocked shots in roughly the same TOI.
Those stats matter.
Trouba is probably reason #2 after Igor why CAR isn't scoring.
Miller has def not been better than Trouba. Trouba has been rock solid. Schneider was a fireball today. Get him a better LD and he can really open up..
But he has been way better than that, and way more physical than given credit for: stepped into Evgeni at GL and leveled him, swept across the slot on Jarvis who had a clean break on right wing and crumpled him. But he's still learning the position, imo, it's not (yet??) instinctive, and he makes wrong breaks, takes wrong angles, still learning the League and personnel, imo. He's 22, and he and JT have been the best pair in these Playoffs.
Outside of Game 6 in PIT, Rangers have been every bit as shaky on the road as Carolina.
Need another home win Tuesday and then you get best of three.
But he has been way better than that, and way more physical than given credit for: stepped into Evgeni at GL and leveled him, swept across the slot on Jarvis who had a clean break on right wing and crumpled him. But he's still learning the position, imo, it's not (yet??) instinctive, and he makes wrong breaks, takes wrong angles, still learning the League and personnel, imo. He's 22, and he and JT have been the best pair in these Playoffs.
Great post, CHP, and I should clarify my POV, I think Miller is playing top pair quality level - he's playing that good, I do think Trouba covers for him a little, but he's playing well.
I just think physicality on D comes only after confidence and improvement with things like gap control. So while I don't think Miller should still make the poke check look at the puck gaffes like on the Svechnikov toe drag, *I do* think he is still getting that comfort level to be more physical - and I agree with you it will happen.
We saw it with Schneider vs the Pens (and Schneider was always a D) where Schneider hesitated deciding whether to pinch or get back and I forget who - Malkin (?) cruised right past him for a goal.
Outside of Game 6 in PIT, Rangers have been every bit as shaky on the road as Carolina.
Need another home win Tuesday and then you get best of three.
While the best pair I agree, I dont thing two players compliment each other on the rangers than Miller and Schneider should be explored as a pairing. If Jones can take another step, put him with Trouba.
But it is tough to comsider separating the two.
I was going to post something like this after Game 2, but it was already so negative here it would have been just throwing so much more gasoline on the fire. Someone dissed Brendan Smith and his gwg by saying, of all Canes the scrub scores it. He played d and filled in as F two years ago here. Left as FA (I think). When asked after 2nd period of Game 1 what the Canes had to do to get back in the game, he was full of fire and resolve. Boom. I wish some of NYR leaders in the room showed more of that fire, on and off.
@EmmaVigeland
May 21
K’Andre Miller has been the best Ranger in the playoffs and it’s odd to me that this isn’t talked about more.
John
@92In82
May 21
K’Andre Miller has been the team’s best and most consistent defender for the almost 2 months now, playoffs included. If his partner was even average, everyone would be raving about his play. #NYR
K'Andre was the one who scored the tying goal in Game 7 (albeit off of Matheson's skate). K'Andre was the one who drew the penalty that led to Panarin's series-winning goal. K'Andre was the one who flashed that closing speed against Seth Jarvis in Game 1 to keep it 1-0 NYR.
The kid is only 22. He's only been playing D for what? 5 years? It's insane to think where he'll be in 3 years from now. He's been phenomenal and it's totally absurd that someone keeps harping on his shortcomings.
That's going to be priority #1. A defensively-responsible 2C. That would've been Danault if we had money for him last offseason. That may be Copp next year. It certainly isn't and won't be Strome.
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The Rangers have done a sound job in all three games, IMO. Carolina has one goal in each game outside of an ENG in game 2. Rangers could legitimately be up 3-0 right now if they would have played offensively in Game 1 and Game 2 like they did today.
Outside of Game 6 in PIT, Rangers have been every bit as shaky on the road as Carolina.
Need another home win Tuesday and then you get best of three.
While the best pair I agree, I dont thing two players compliment each other on the rangers than Miller and Schneider should be explored as a pairing. If Jones can take another step, put him with Trouba.
I tend to agree. Next year. Those pairings should provide better balance.
@EmmaVigeland
May 21
K’Andre Miller has been the best Ranger in the playoffs and it’s odd to me that this isn’t talked about more.
John
@92In82
May 21
K’Andre Miller has been the team’s best and most consistent defender for the almost 2 months now, playoffs included. If his partner was even average, everyone would be raving about his play. #NYR
K'Andre was the one who scored the tying goal in Game 7 (albeit off of Matheson's skate). K'Andre was the one who drew the penalty that led to Panarin's series-winning goal. K'Andre was the one who flashed that closing speed against Seth Jarvis in Game 1 to keep it 1-0 NYR.
The kid is only 22. He's only been playing D for what? 5 years? It's insane to think where he'll be in 3 years from now. He's been phenomenal and it's totally absurd that someone keeps harping on his shortcomings.
Wait....nobody is criticizing you for that take ....yet, but Trouba has been on both special teams, has carried the physical play....Trouba has a lot more going 9n. Both have been been good, but because a reporter brings up a play off the skates and a drawn penaly...thats a reach.
Trouba has also made boo boos. Remember the Malkin breakaway?
And I'm not trashing Trouba. He's been our second best defenseman. I just think K'Andre has been the best one.
Gutty, gritty win that often times wasn’t remotely pretty. Lots of blocked shots and deflections. I liked the lineup changes. They ended up getting more out of Chytil and Vatrano than before. The second line still gave them nothing and there’s still too much overpassing. Crazy how Shesty could give up a terrible goal and still have a great game.
Canes were real bitchasses at the end of the game. I hope someone crumples Tony D like aluminum foil. He’s complains all fucking game, every game. I don’t remember where, but someone said that the Canes commit a ton of interference penalties and dare the refs to call them. I never noticed until today.
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That Trouba hasnt.
Trouba has also made boo boos. Remember the Malkin breakaway?
And I'm not trashing Trouba. He's been our second best defenseman. I just think K'Andre has been the best one.
Shouldve said Miller has made more boo boos....remember the Rodrigues breakaway?
Dude, Trouba is more than just a little better than Miller right now. Miller is very good for a 22 year old, but Trouba is better at winning pucks, shooting pucks, physicality, positioning and deciding when to pinch
This Miller back n forth has to stop. Hes a nice defenseman, hes not better than Trouba.
Im happy to concede that he has been slightly better than Fox who is likely playing lame.
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That Trouba hasnt.
Trouba has also made boo boos. Remember the Malkin breakaway?
And I'm not trashing Trouba. He's been our second best defenseman. I just think K'Andre has been the best one.
Shouldve said Miller has made more boo boos....remember the Rodrigues breakaway?
Dude, Trouba is more than just a little better than Miller right now. Miller is very good for a 22 year old, but Trouba is better at winning pucks, shooting pucks, physicality, positioning and deciding when to pinch
This Miller back n forth has to stop. Hes a nice defenseman, hes not better than Trouba.
Im happy to concede that he has been slightly better than Fox who is likely playing lame.
I really don't think so. Does Trouba have certain advantages over Miller? Yes. But the opposite can be said as well. Trouba has the better physical presence? K'Andre is the better skater. Trouba has a better shot from the point? K'Andre has the better recovery speed...
Trouba had a better regular season than K'Andre, but he has not been better in the playoffs, IMO. In fact, weren't most of us (or at least I was) saying (tongue-in-cheek, of course) that it would've been to the Rangers benefit if Trouba was actually suspended for the Crosby hit because Trouba had subsequently been playing somewhat poorly?
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That Trouba hasnt.
Trouba has also made boo boos. Remember the Malkin breakaway?
And I'm not trashing Trouba. He's been our second best defenseman. I just think K'Andre has been the best one.
Shouldve said Miller has made more boo boos....remember the Rodrigues breakaway?
Dude, Trouba is more than just a little better than Miller right now. Miller is very good for a 22 year old, but Trouba is better at winning pucks, shooting pucks, physicality, positioning and deciding when to pinch
This Miller back n forth has to stop. Hes a nice defenseman, hes not better than Trouba.
Im happy to concede that he has been slightly better than Fox who is likely playing lame.
I really don't think so. Does Trouba have certain advantages over Miller? Yes. But the opposite can be said as well. Trouba has the better physical presence? K'Andre is the better skater. Trouba has a better shot from the point? K'Andre has the better recovery speed...
Trouba had a better regular season than K'Andre, but he has not been better in the playoffs, IMO. In fact, weren't most of us (or at least I was) saying (tongue-in-cheek, of course) that it would've been to the Rangers benefit if Trouba was actually suspended for the Crosby hit because Trouba had subsequently been playing somewhat poorly?
I really dont know what game you're watching if you think that. Sure, Miller has better recovery speed, but in every other aspect of the game Ttouba has been far better. Again, plays on both special teams, if far more involved in the offense. He also had lost his man often enough to be annoying during the Pitt series.
Agains, you keep mentioning skating when Im not really sure you know what a good skater is because you constantly refer to speed. Part of skating is not ove-skating, which I think Miller does a lot. He also gets skating with the puck and he is so focused on his outskating the other guy that he doesnt make the best play with the puck. Its basically the polar opposite of what Fox does.
Miller, while I love how hes progressed, has more holes as a D man than Trouba. Theres also a reason why Gallant doesnt want him to be the only D out there on PP2 despite having better off insincts than Trouba.
Its cool, he'll get there.
I honestly thing the Rangers match up well with TB.
@EmmaVigeland
May 21
K’Andre Miller has been the best Ranger in the playoffs and it’s odd to me that this isn’t talked about more.
John
@92In82
May 21
K’Andre Miller has been the team’s best and most consistent defender for the almost 2 months now, playoffs included. If his partner was even average, everyone would be raving about his play. #NYR
K'Andre was the one who scored the tying goal in Game 7 (albeit off of Matheson's skate). K'Andre was the one who drew the penalty that led to Panarin's series-winning goal. K'Andre was the one who flashed that closing speed against Seth Jarvis in Game 1 to keep it 1-0 NYR.
The kid is only 22. He's only been playing D for what? 5 years? It's insane to think where he'll be in 3 years from now. He's been phenomenal and it's totally absurd that someone keeps harping on his shortcomings.
Congrats, you found two people who, like you, dont understand what you are watching
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@EmmaVigeland
May 21
K’Andre Miller has been the best Ranger in the playoffs and it’s odd to me that this isn’t talked about more.
John
@92In82
May 21
K’Andre Miller has been the team’s best and most consistent defender for the almost 2 months now, playoffs included. If his partner was even average, everyone would be raving about his play. #NYR
K'Andre was the one who scored the tying goal in Game 7 (albeit off of Matheson's skate). K'Andre was the one who drew the penalty that led to Panarin's series-winning goal. K'Andre was the one who flashed that closing speed against Seth Jarvis in Game 1 to keep it 1-0 NYR.
The kid is only 22. He's only been playing D for what? 5 years? It's insane to think where he'll be in 3 years from now. He's been phenomenal and it's totally absurd that someone keeps harping on his shortcomings.
Congrats, you found two people who, like you, dont understand what you are watching
Here he is again....the guy who tells everybody they dont know what they are watching despite having never played the sport and touting an illustrious career as a little league announcer in VT.
You are wrong about everything Flablats. You suck at hockey analysis and are contradicted on every point you make.
I picture Rob Schneider from Necessary Roughness whenever I see you post.
Ugh. The worst.
All you did was play in high school. Like millions of others. And you have clearly established that you have no idea what you are watching
All you did was play in high school. Like millions of others. And you have clearly established that you have no idea what you are watching
Lmao.....taught PE!!!!!
Dude you are literally the most poorly informed poster on this board. By your standards, Sean McDonough knows more about hockey than guys who actually played it like pj and CHP. I wont talk about myself but if you ask around, New England Prep school hockey is a pretty high level. I never got the chance to play Mt. St. Charles but played Taft, St. Sebatiians and Moses Brown. So I DO know what Im talking about.
You have called out k Miller, you have been wrong. You have said the Rangers should dump and chase against a faster team, that too is wrong. You have associated dumping and chasing as a univerally accepted offensive strategy the Canes employ when thats not it at all. They get in the zone, fire it at the net or the back boards and and flood the area with forechecking forwards. That is something the Rangers are not built to do. You have not been right about one single thing you have posted about and yet you stay with the same refrain...."you don't know what you're watching" and that is your walk away along with that you commentated for little league, taught gym class and probably announced Waterbury football games. Guess what? Nobody cares.
You said on the rules quiz that the situation in question happened during a game and you had to look it up after it happened and you FORGOT what that rule was. Sorry, but not only should you have known what the ruling should be, but you would have never forgotten such a unique circumstance ever again had someone asked you about it.
I think you are totally full of shit and you know NOTHING about hockey.
Go find a kickball game to referee and then tell all the participants your glory days about being the announcer for the ultra competitive Waterloo Roopty Roos Under 15 team league that John LeClairskated on the ice before the Roos went out for a pre game skate.
Fraud.
You couldnt do half the things Ive accomplished in sports. Hell, you couldnt do ANY of them. You cant even read. Instead, you just keep posting incorrect opinions of hockey, which is your right.
I never even addressed you in this thread, but you felt the need to attack me
I would say that I will never address you again, but you are bound to say something else that is incredibly stupid that makes it too difficult to resist.
Im going to give it a try....to resist sports ideas I havent even dreamed of. Do me a favor, change your underwear tomorrow and clean up all the empty food containers off your desk before you go proctor dodgeball tomorrow morning....you know, set a good example for the kids.
You arent qualified to do any of it, not even close. In fact, I was also a stock broker and banker - two more things you could never do
You arent qualified to do any of it, not even close. In fact, I was also a stock broker and banker - two more things you could never do
I also didnt bring up your astro-physics degree nor did I thank you for your role in defeating Thanos. The Avengers never couldve done it with out your distracting the big guyy by reading your exhaustive resume.
Thanks for being a part of humanity.
"If his partner was even average.."????? That's a fucking ridiculous thing to say.
I invest very little of my bandwidth in considering FIRST BEST, SECOND BEST, WORSEST, THIRD BADDEST because I have a second grader at home to worry about that kind of shit...I don't find it the least bit insightful. But Trouba has been pretty fucking good for this team.
Miller is a player. And he's only going to get better with experience. They have a nice top 4 on D
Nice seeing Braun with Schneider rather than Nemeth.
We now know for sure that Tie is Max's father. No need for a DNA test. What a jerk.
NCAA is rated above the OHL (the best of the Canadian Juniors leagues) and just below the AHL.
Anyway, this is a stupid discussion, lol.
Miller is a player. And he's only going to get better with experience. They have a nice top 4 on D
Nice seeing Braun with Schneider rather than Nemeth.
We now know for sure that Tie is Max's father. No need for a DNA test. What a jerk.
That play where he tried to toe drag around a sliding Smith or Skjei made me completely forget about his pass on the PP to Zib
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And I notice you dont bring up my coaching, or my sportscasting - many years of which were play by play and many years on the national level
You arent qualified to do any of it, not even close. In fact, I was also a stock broker and banker - two more things you could never do
I also didnt bring up your astro-physics degree nor did I thank you for your role in defeating Thanos. The Avengers never couldve done it with out your distracting the big guyy by reading your exhaustive resume.
Thanks for being a part of humanity.
This is a great post!! Literally spit my coffee out.
I just picture some guy in Mom's basement trying to figure out what next to add to his resume all while screaming up for more Cream and Wheat. RIP John Clayton - you've inspired at least one guy!
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And I notice you dont bring up my coaching, or my sportscasting - many years of which were play by play and many years on the national level
You arent qualified to do any of it, not even close. In fact, I was also a stock broker and banker - two more things you could never do
I also didnt bring up your astro-physics degree nor did I thank you for your role in defeating Thanos. The Avengers never couldve done it with out your distracting the big guyy by reading your exhaustive resume.
Thanks for being a part of humanity.
This literally made my morning. Lmao.
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Not even a shot.
Wasn't it Panarin's pass to Mika that led to score one?
So we get a nice scoring play once every 4 games? K.
Kid line was great again. Kaako has to work on his shooting and getting it on net.
Miller played quite well. Boy do we need a guy who can win some faceoffs.
A certain someone may not want to hear it, but I think K'Andre has been our best/most consistent defenseman in the Playoffs thus far.
I love Miller and I think he'll be good in the NHL but he still has at least one play almost every game that reminds you he's a converted forward (and he shouldn't still have those IMO). Today it was the Svechnikov toe drag.
He's probably the most athletic player on the team, and he's got a rare combination of size, speed, hands I would almost want to see him back at forward, but it's been longer that's he's been on D then some people realize (it's been 6 or 7 years now, and those are basically full time years not youth hockey years).
I think Miller's going to be a stud. I think he's a solid second pairing dman now but he has one or two brain dead plays a game.
I agree with you on the F->D thing, but would add Burns took awhile to get going. Miller has elite raw skills, is getting better at the defensive reads, but still makes a handful of dumb plays a game - I'd add, though, that sometimes the forward makes the wrong read but Miller gets the blame. I think our forwards have been poor defensively at times this post-season.
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And I notice you dont bring up my coaching, or my sportscasting - many years of which were play by play and many years on the national level
You arent qualified to do any of it, not even close. In fact, I was also a stock broker and banker - two more things you could never do
I also didnt bring up your astro-physics degree nor did I thank you for your role in defeating Thanos. The Avengers never couldve done it with out your distracting the big guyy by reading your exhaustive resume.
Thanks for being a part of humanity.
This is a great post!! Literally spit my coffee out.
I just picture some guy in Mom's basement trying to figure out what next to add to his resume all while screaming up for more Cream and Wheat. RIP John Clayton - you've inspired at least one guy!
Except that it is actually my resume
Snablats is here to fuck shit up
I was going to post something like this after Game 2, but it was already so negative here it would have been just throwing so much more gasoline on the fire. Someone dissed Brendan Smith and his gwg by saying, of all Canes the scrub scores it. He played d and filled in as F two years ago here. Left as FA (I think). When asked after 2nd period of Game 1 what the Canes had to do to get back in the game, he was full of fire and resolve. Boom. I wish some of NYR leaders in the room showed more of that fire, on and off.
Biggest knock on Kreider throughout his whole career is that he gets too deep into his own head. It's always been mental with him.
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Not even a shot.
Wasn't it Panarin's pass to Mika that led to score one?
So we get a nice scoring play once every 4 games? K.
Kid line was great again. Kaako has to work on his shooting and getting it on net.
Miller played quite well. Boy do we need a guy who can win some faceoffs.
A certain someone may not want to hear it, but I think K'Andre has been our best/most consistent defenseman in the Playoffs thus far.
I love Miller and I think he'll be good in the NHL but he still has at least one play almost every game that reminds you he's a converted forward (and he shouldn't still have those IMO). Today it was the Svechnikov toe drag.
He's probably the most athletic player on the team, and he's got a rare combination of size, speed, hands I would almost want to see him back at forward, but it's been longer that's he's been on D then some people realize (it's been 6 or 7 years now, and those are basically full time years not youth hockey years).
I think Miller's going to be a stud. I think he's a solid second pairing dman now but he has one or two brain dead plays a game.
I agree with you on the F->D thing, but would add Burns took awhile to get going. Miller has elite raw skills, is getting better at the defensive reads, but still makes a handful of dumb plays a game - I'd add, though, that sometimes the forward makes the wrong read but Miller gets the blame. I think our forwards have been poor defensively at times this post-season.
Burns is a great comp, and a lot of similarities between him and Miller - but Bruns didn't switch to D until the NHL (right?). So, Miller is a long-time D comparatively speaking.
I agree with you on the F->D thing, but would add Burns took awhile to get going. Miller has elite raw skills, is getting better at the defensive reads, but still makes a handful of dumb plays a game - I'd add, though, that sometimes the forward makes the wrong read but Miller gets the blame. I think our forwards have been poor defensively at times this post-season.
Good with that, Brett.
As I've said before, 2nd line, Copp excepted for most part, are the worst offenders at leaving too much open ice for their matched line to counter and cross BL pretty unmolested. 1st line is inconsistent, at best, Zib usually being honest two-way. Kreider does it at times, when he feels like it, and it's very noticeable when he does.
Kids are working hard all over the ice. 4th line, thank God Motte is back healthy, are with his exception just not that good. Rooney, Hunt, McKegg, et al., with Reaves with his unique skill set.
I thought Gallant's honesty about moving Copp down was interesting: needed to win some faceoffs. And Copp, as he has since he got here, did that, better than anyone else on the team. He could have left Copp on the 2nd line and had him take them; was his thinking he didn't want to embarrass a vet? Strome has been the ever shrinking 2C this season; his play has been uniformly poor, and part of the Artemi bashing--pretty deserved in his own right--can I think be laid at the feet of his C.
Team has hard work to do on its core if they hope to move up from Playoff team to legit SCP contender. A ++, two-way player at each of C, wing, LD. And Igor is going to have to be paid, when? Presumptive Vezina winner, Hart finalist.
I love Motte but I thought he played poorly yesterday.
I love Motte but I thought he played poorly yesterday.
the only difference really between say Lafreniere and Panarin/Strome/Vatrano was PP time. slowly (too slowly?) they have been getting more time.
I love Motte but I thought he played poorly yesterday.
He had a couple nice blacks at the top of the circles at the end, but I agree he didnt have his usual jump.
I havent thought Copp has looked the same at all this series. I think he has been better by his linemates, but HE appears to be playing a little banged up....he looks a little slow.
I cant figure out Kreider this series. He is misplaying pucks, I haven't noticed him being has physical either. Hopefully he wakes up, because we need him on both ends to be a load.
I wonder if Goodrow has any shot of getting back soon.
The Rangers have played a much stronger, cleaner game so far in this series than what we saw through the first 3 games vs. PIT. A good bit of missed opportunities.
Carolina attempted a lot of shots yesterday, but very few were quality looks.
Keep playing this way and give 60 minute efforts and we'll win this series.
I wonder if Goodrow has any shot of getting back soon.
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Still in a walking boot, I’ve been told he’s a long shot to play in this series
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Still in a walking boot, I’ve been told he’s a long shot to play in this series
Bah. Perhaps Blais is a little closer? Would love to get one of the two back.
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Still in a walking boot, I’ve been told he’s a long shot to play in this series
I mean, didnt he break his ankle? I cant imagine his being able to return so soon after that.
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Still in a walking boot, I’ve been told he’s a long shot to play in this series
Bah. Perhaps Blais is a little closer? Would love to get one of the two back.
Didn't he tear is ACL? I know recivery time is much faster, but is is smart for his career?
Go Rangers
No idea the severity of the tear, but the gating factor is rehab/regaining strength, and that's player dependent, player specific. Wouldn't rule him out by default.
No idea the severity of the tear, but the gating factor is rehab/regaining strength, and that's player dependent, player specific. Wouldn't rule him out by default.
I think it was mid-Nov, but I get your point. Would be nice to get him back and on the 4th line.
Frank, I think it was literally 2nd or 3rd game of the season; it stuck in my mind so cuz it was so early coming on the heels of much maligned Buch deal to malign it still more.
I cheated CHP....went straight to the Google and it pulled up a Post article.
Thats the thing, while I understand that skaking does not imclude the abruptness nor need for explosion from the knee that football players need, I cant imagine he would be too comfortable taking a hit or if he slid into the goalie or boards....hes 25 and has his whole career ahead of him.
I would be shocked if he came back after 7.5 months.
I think 1: seeing Nemeth take a regular shift helped Lindgren look better, but also 2: I'm a sucker for the grit/physical play - without being a punk - and the toughness of players in hockey playing through injury.
He's definitely more valuable than I thought.
I think 1: seeing Nemeth take a regular shift helped Lindgren look better, but also 2: I'm a sucker for the grit/physical play - without being a punk - and the toughness of players in hockey playing through injury.
He's definitely more valuable than I thought.
The Rangers are a very, very noticeably different team without him. He's not the best player, but he carries immense value to this particular roster.
There's no one who can step in and do what he does. We lose a major edge.
He's probably my favorite Ranger at this point. Such a tough dude.
No idea the severity of the tear, but the gating factor is rehab/regaining strength, and that's player dependent, player specific. Wouldn't rule him out by default.
The Blais injury happened on November 14.
Chytil was a nice boost to Kreider and Zibanejad yesterday.
I like what Gallant did, and I think he will do it again. Makes them less predictable when it comes to matchups.
There's no one who can step in and do what he does. We lose a major edge.
He's probably my favorite Ranger at this point. Such a tough dude.
+1 to that and pj's taking notice (:
and not for nothing, Fox is a different player w/o him
not for the better; and seems sure he didn't fully heal
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...The Rangers are a very, very noticeably different team without him. He's not the best player, but he carries immense value to this particular roster.
There's no one who can step in and do what he does. We lose a major edge.
He's probably my favorite Ranger at this point. Such a tough dude.
+1 to that and pj's taking notice (:
and not for nothing, Fox is a different player w/o him
not for the better; and seems sure he didn't fully heal
L8ndgren is Girardi lite (super lite). He takes a beating but is always going close to full speed. Only thing missing is Girardi would pop on in from the blue line once in a while.
I don't see Lindgren like that - but Trouba absolutely is.
Anyway, when I think Girardi I think uncanny ability to block shots. I bet he is near the all-time leader in blocked shots.
Don't be ridiculous...
Rangers in 6.
I don't see Lindgren like that - but Trouba absolutely is.
Anyway, when I think Girardi I think uncanny ability to block shots. I bet he is near the all-time leader in blocked shots.
He also had quite the underrated shot from the blue line.
He DID fall apart quickly.
I thought the same thing last night. So we're either both brilliant or both nuts.
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Rangers in 7.
Don't be ridiculous...
Rangers in 6.
I like the way you think.