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BLUATHRT : 5/23/2022 12:58 pm
I've been watching a lot of documentaries on the Philly Mob of the 60's through 80's, with Bruno and Scarfo. It has me craving mob movies that aren't your usual suspects (Godfather, Casino, Goodfellas, Donnie Brasco, etc.). Looking for some recommendations. Thanks.
Things to Do in Denver When You're Dead  
GiantsLaw : 5/23/2022 1:02 pm : link
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RE: Things to Do in Denver When You're Dead  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2022 1:02 pm : link
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good call, great, underappreciated, movie
Infernal Affairs  
John in Loudoun : 5/23/2022 1:05 pm : link
One of the best. Its subtitled but worth it. The second one might even be better than the first imho.
this was funny  
bluefin : 5/23/2022 1:06 pm : link
RE: Things to Do in Denver When You're Dead  
JohnG in Albany : 5/23/2022 1:07 pm : link
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I only knew that title as a Warren Zevon song.

Miller's Crossing  
MOOPS : 5/23/2022 1:11 pm : link
King of New York
The Funeral
Wise Guys
State of Grace  
Enzo : 5/23/2022 1:11 pm : link
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Wise Guys...  
Johnny5 : 5/23/2022 1:12 pm : link
... of course.

"Thank YOOOOUUU, Mr. Acavano!!"
RE: Things to Do in Denver When You're Dead  
j_rud : 5/23/2022 1:12 pm : link
In comment 15716332 GiantsLaw said:
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Nailed it right out of the gate
RE: Infernal Affairs  
Mad Mike : 5/23/2022 1:13 pm : link
In comment 15716338 John in Loudoun said:
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One of the best. Its subtitled but worth it. The second one might even be better than the first imho.

For people who don't know, this is the original Hong Kong movie on which The Departed is based. And it's excellent.

I like Find Me Guilty, more of a courtroom movie than mob movie, but it's a mob trial. Stars Vin Diesel and Peter Dinklage.
guilty pleasure  
santacruzom : 5/23/2022 1:19 pm : link
but I actually enjoyed the Knockaround Guys. Particularly, the scene in which Vin Diesel kicks the ever-loving crap out of the guy who played Waingro in Heat.
The Ice Harvest  
bwitz : 5/23/2022 1:21 pm : link
With John Cusack and Billy Bob Thornton.
RE: State of Grace  
John In CO : 5/23/2022 1:21 pm : link
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Good One. Oldman, Turturro, Penn, Harris.....this was a multi-rental for me back in the Blockbuster days.
Pope of Greenwich VIllage  
Pork Chop : 5/23/2022 1:21 pm : link
not exactly unknown, but a great picture
Killing them softly  
JerseyCityJoe : 5/23/2022 1:23 pm : link
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The Friends of Eddie Coyle  
MSanchez : 5/23/2022 1:25 pm : link
It's been a while since I've seen it but I remember this being a solid and underrated gangster flick. I think I may have actually heard about it in an old bbi thread.
RE: Miller's Crossing  
JohnG in Albany : 5/23/2022 1:25 pm : link
In comment 15716348 MOOPS said:
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King of New York
The Funeral
Wise Guys


Miller's Crossing was great.

RE: Killing them softly  
santacruzom : 5/23/2022 1:27 pm : link
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Oh man, I keep forgetting to watch that one and I've heard/read great things. I gotta add it to the list.
You know it's dangerous for you to be in the frozen food section...  
DCGMan : 5/23/2022 1:27 pm : link
because you could melt all this stuff.

Suicide Kings  
TXRabbit : 5/23/2022 1:30 pm : link
Walken is great and supporting cast is as well
Check out "Running Scared"  
Ron from Ninerland : 5/23/2022 1:32 pm : link
with Chazz Palminteri (Now youse can't leave ), Vera Farmiga ( from "The Departed" ), Paul Walker( from Fast and Furious ), Arthur J. Nascarella( Carlo in the Sopranos ) and others. I'm surprised this movie never got more attention. Its told mostly through the viewpoint of a low level soldier in Jersey.

BTW this movie is not to be confused with the cop buddy movie "Running Scared" with Billy Crystal and Gregory Hines, which was also pretty good.
if you are looking for Philly mob  
UConn4523 : 5/23/2022 1:33 pm : link
"A History of Violence" is a sneaky good mob movie by Cronenburg.
Miller's Crossing  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 5/23/2022 1:36 pm : link
might be my favorite mob movie not directed by Coppola.
RE: if you are looking for Philly mob  
BLUATHRT : 5/23/2022 1:36 pm : link
In comment 15716395 UConn4523 said:
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"A History of Violence" is a sneaky good mob movie by Cronenburg.


I've seen this and enjoyed it.
RE: The Friends of Eddie Coyle  
Enzo : 5/23/2022 1:38 pm : link
In comment 15716381 MSanchez said:
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It's been a while since I've seen it but I remember this being a solid and underrated gangster flick. I think I may have actually heard about it in an old bbi thread.

good one!
RE: Check out  
Enzo : 5/23/2022 1:40 pm : link
In comment 15716394 Ron from Ninerland said:
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with Chazz Palminteri (Now youse can't leave ), Vera Farmiga ( from "The Departed" ), Paul Walker( from Fast and Furious ), Arthur J. Nascarella( Carlo in the Sopranos ) and others. I'm surprised this movie never got more attention. Its told mostly through the viewpoint of a low level soldier in Jersey.

this movie is crazy. Really entertaining and and takes a detour that still gives me the creeps. Makes you think Paul Walker maybe had more in him as an actor than he was able to show.
Kill the Irishman  
sb from NYT Forum : 5/23/2022 1:42 pm : link
...about an actual Cleveland mobster.

I downloaded it by mistake, I wanted to download Scorsese's Irishman to watch on a plane.

But I actually liked Kill the Irishman better. Solid cast (staring the guy who was Titus Pullo in HBO's Rome, plus Vincent D'Onofrio, Christopher Walken and Val Kilmer). Came out in 2011.
RE: Suicide Kings  
Pork Chop : 5/23/2022 1:42 pm : link
In comment 15716391 TXRabbit said:
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Walken is great and supporting cast is as well


Great call. Loved that movie.
RE: Pope of Greenwich VIllage  
Victor in CT : 5/23/2022 1:45 pm : link
In comment 15716370 Pork Chop said:
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not exactly unknown, but a great picture


one of my favorites

also Mob Town, Across 110th Street, Mean Streets
A little off topic,  
smshmth8690 : 5/23/2022 1:46 pm : link
I watched Carlito's Way last night. I had remembered it being better. I thought there were some terrible acting performances in it. Scarface was on at the same time, glad I recorded it.
RE: RE: Pope of Greenwich VIllage  
Ron from Ninerland : 5/23/2022 1:48 pm : link
In comment 15716405 Victor in CT said:
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not exactly unknown, but a great picture



one of my favorites

also Mob Town, Across 110th Street, Mean Streets
Across 110th street ! "You were a punk errand boy when you married the boss's daughter and you're still a punk errand boy". I love that movie !
RE: Wise Guys...  
djm : 5/23/2022 2:02 pm : link
In comment 15716352 Johnny5 said:
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... of course.

"Thank YOOOOUUU, Mr. Acavano!!"


This movie doesn't get enough attention. 99% of the time I use that line everyone is like WTF are you talking about. "No, THANK YOUUUUUUUU, Mr. Acavano"

Love that movie and it's filmed all over north jersey/newark and even the meadowlands area.
Federal Hill  
yalebowl : 5/23/2022 2:21 pm : link
"Federal Hill", a mob movie, takes place in Providence, RI. Federal Hill is the Italian section of Providence.

I lived in Rhode Island for a few years. One noticeable feature was that most of the restaurants only took cash for payments of your bill.

Johnston, Rhode Island was the real home of the Mafia types. The government officials in Johnston once bought used cars for their police department. All the odometer mileages had been turned back.

It was tough to distinguish between the Mafia types and the State Police. Buddy Cianci was the Mayor of Providence when I was there. He was charged after torturing his wife's lover with cigarette burns. Buddy eventually went to jail and later hosted a radio talk show.

A standard saying in Rhode Island was that if you invited the Governor of the State to dinner he would show up. Another peculiarity was that when a red light turned green drivers making left turns would go first.
Once upon a time in America.  
theking : 5/23/2022 2:23 pm : link
Amazing film.
Maybe not quite mob  
FrankHuntington : 5/23/2022 2:31 pm : link
Because of the lack of Italians but Pay Back with Mel Gibson is pretty solid.

Does Road to Perdition count?
RE: Maybe not quite mob  
Enzo : 5/23/2022 2:35 pm : link
In comment 15716446 FrankHuntington said:
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Because of the lack of Italians but Pay Back with Mel Gibson is pretty solid.

Does Road to Perdition count?

Payback is a great choice and a fun watch.

Road to Perdition is very good, but I wouldn't call it under the radar.
Not traditional mob movies..  
Chris in Philly : 5/23/2022 2:38 pm : link
but a pair of brilliant British crime dramas is The Long Good Friday and Mona Lisa. I very highly recommend them both.
Not Italian mob movies  
Dirt1 : 5/23/2022 2:38 pm : link
but Layer Cake was very good and more recent The Gentleman was worth watching.
Legend  
Enzo : 5/23/2022 2:42 pm : link
with Tom Hardy (playing the Kray twins) is pretty good. Probably a well known movie in the UK, but it basically did nothing at the box office in the US.
In Bruges  
Del Shofner : 5/23/2022 2:45 pm : link
with Colin Farrell.
Knockaround Guys...  
KingBlue : 5/23/2022 2:47 pm : link
Vin Diesel, Barry Pepper, John Malcovich, Dennis Hopper, Seth Green....

The wannabe sons of mobsters go to a remote town in the Midwest, and get themselves into more trouble than anyone could anticipate.
Knockaround Guys - ( New Window )
Micky Blue Eyes...  
Everyone Relax : 5/23/2022 2:47 pm : link
ayyyyy
RE: RE: RE: Pope of Greenwich VIllage  
Victor in CT : 5/23/2022 2:50 pm : link
In comment 15716410 Ron from Ninerland said:
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not exactly unknown, but a great picture



one of my favorites

also Mob Town, Across 110th Street, Mean Streets

Across 110th street ! "You were a punk errand boy when you married the boss's daughter and you're still a punk errand boy". I love that movie !


YES!
The Outfit  
HopePhil and Optimistic : 5/23/2022 2:54 pm : link
Was in theaters recently and now streaming, got little fanfare but was riveting
Bronx Tale  
HopePhil and Optimistic : 5/23/2022 2:57 pm : link
Filmed in Astoria, Queens in my neighborhood!

Biker scene was a GOAT moment. (Unless you’re a biker)
RE: Bronx Tale  
bwitz : 5/23/2022 3:13 pm : link
In comment 15716465 HopePhil and Optimistic said:
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Filmed in Astoria, Queens in my neighborhood!

Biker scene was a GOAT moment. (Unless you’re a biker)


Now yous can’t leave.

Great movie.
RE: Check out  
bwitz : 5/23/2022 3:15 pm : link
In comment 15716394 Ron from Ninerland said:
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with Chazz Palminteri (Now youse can't leave ), Vera Farmiga ( from "The Departed" ), Paul Walker( from Fast and Furious ), Arthur J. Nascarella( Carlo in the Sopranos ) and others. I'm surprised this movie never got more attention. Its told mostly through the viewpoint of a low level soldier in Jersey.

BTW this movie is not to be confused with the cop buddy movie "Running Scared" with Billy Crystal and Gregory Hines, which was also pretty good.


That scene with the pedophiles always creeps me out.
RE: RE: Killing them softly  
bwitz : 5/23/2022 3:16 pm : link
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Oh man, I keep forgetting to watch that one and I've heard/read great things. I gotta add it to the list.


Fucking great movie. Easily one of the most brutal movies I’ve watched when it comes to the action scenes.
The HBO version of Gotti  
ghost718 : 5/23/2022 4:35 pm : link
It's on YouTube
RE: RE: Wise Guys...  
Johnny5 : 5/23/2022 5:27 pm : link
In comment 15716422 djm said:
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... of course.

"Thank YOOOOUUU, Mr. Acavano!!"



This movie doesn't get enough attention. 99% of the time I use that line everyone is like WTF are you talking about. "No, THANK YOUUUUUUUU, Mr. Acavano"

Love that movie and it's filmed all over north jersey/newark and even the meadowlands area.

lol yep My brother and I used to say that all the time and people would look at us like we had 3 heads

RE: Wise Guys...  
BMac : 5/23/2022 5:59 pm : link
In comment 15716352 Johnny5 said:
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... of course.

"Thank YOOOOUUU, Mr. Acavano!!"


++++
Once upon a Time in America  
Grey Pilgrim : 5/23/2022 6:04 pm : link
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RE: RE: Miller's Crossing  
HomerJones45 : 5/23/2022 6:08 pm : link
In comment 15716382 JohnG in Albany said:
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King of New York
The Funeral
Wise Guys



Miller's Crossing was great.
Would have been much better if they hadn't made Jon Polito's character such a cartoon.
RE: Bronx Tale  
US1 Giants : 5/23/2022 6:15 pm : link
In comment 15716465 HopePhil and Optimistic said:
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Filmed in Astoria, Queens in my neighborhood!

Biker scene was a GOAT moment. (Unless you’re a biker)


Great movie. If you have not seen it you should check out this link to the Eli Manning Show when he had Chazz Palminteri on. Chazz wrote the script and an important part in the movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RyIXVExHao&list=PLEvLQ72iFD5uRuKFd9xKw4CwU8gOVGZRE&index=20
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels  
HomerJones45 : 5/23/2022 6:18 pm : link
Entertaining
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bluefin : 5/23/2022 6:56 pm : link
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King of New York
The Funeral
Wise Guys



Miller's Crossing was great.


Would have been much better if they hadn't made Jon Polito's character such a cartoon.

like a dumb animal
RE: In Bruges  
bluefin : 5/23/2022 6:58 pm : link
In comment 15716458 Del Shofner said:
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with Colin Farrell.

and Brendan Gleeson - very good one!!
Layer Cake is a great British gangster movie  
Greg from LI : 5/23/2022 7:44 pm : link
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RE: The HBO version of Gotti  
Chris684 : 5/23/2022 7:55 pm : link
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It's on YouTube


This. And I feel like it gets no love. Casting and acting is awesome.
The Valachi Papers (1972)  
Klaatu : 5/24/2022 6:03 am : link
Based on the book by Peter Maas, detailing the life of Genovese family member Joseph Valachi and his testimony before the U.S. Senate on the inner workings of La Cosa Nostra.

Not a great film by any means, but not bad. Released shortly after The Godfather in 1972, it didn't receive nearly as much critical acclaim or do as well at the box office, with good reason for both. Still, it's worth checking out if you've never seen it.

One piece of trivia: Angelo Infanti, who played Fabrizio in The Godfather, played Lucky Luciano in The Valachi Papers.
For something a little different..  
PEEJ : 5/24/2022 8:07 am : link
Analyze This.

Bada bing, betty boop.
Thanks all.  
BLUATHRT : 5/24/2022 8:25 am : link
Appreciate all the suggestions!
Have you watched Gomorrah hbo max?  
trueblueinpw : 5/24/2022 9:38 am : link
I don’t have a movie to add, though I second the above on most including Kill the Irishman.

Gomorrah is a good binge watch if you have HBO. Very popular in Italy.
RE: Have you watched Gomorrah hbo max?  
Enzo : 5/24/2022 9:43 am : link
In comment 15717046 trueblueinpw said:
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I don’t have a movie to add, though I second the above on most including Kill the Irishman.

Gomorrah is a good binge watch if you have HBO. Very popular in Italy.

I started the book years ago and it was borderline unreadable. I've heard good things about the show.
I will put in another vote for the HBO Gotti movie too  
Greg from LI : 5/24/2022 9:47 am : link
It veers a bit into Sammy Gravano apologia, but other than that it's rather good. Armand Assante really nailed the role IMO. Plus, it has an early Tony Sirico appearance as a hitman!
HBO Gotti  
Ron from Ninerland : 5/24/2022 12:36 pm : link
I've always thought of Gotti as HBO's pre-Sopranos. They did such a good job that maybe thats what gave them the idea to do the Sopranos. Many of the actors in Gotti wound up as characters in the Sopranos. Off the top of my head I can think of Big Pussy, Paulie, Junior and Phil. Also the actor who played Gotti's lawyer also played Tony Soprano's lawyer.
RE: RE: Have you watched Gomorrah hbo max?  
Victor in CT : 5/24/2022 1:16 pm : link
In comment 15717049 Enzo said:
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I don’t have a movie to add, though I second the above on most including Kill the Irishman.

Gomorrah is a good binge watch if you have HBO. Very popular in Italy.


I started the book years ago and it was borderline unreadable. I've heard good things about the show.


I disagree about the book. I thought it was very interesting.

Also enjoyed God's Banker about Roberto Calvi.

another great book is "Giovanni's Ring: My Life Inside the Real Sopranos" about an undercover NJ cop infiltratred the de Cavalcante family
The Long Good Friday [1980]  
Producer : 5/24/2022 7:03 pm : link
is on a par with the very best gangster pictures ever made, starring the great Bob Hoskins.
Public Enemies...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/24/2022 7:30 pm : link
Depp movie.
Donnie Brasco is a great movie.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/24/2022 7:32 pm : link
It is on Netflix. Depp & Pacino are great.
RE: Donnie Brasco is a great movie.  
Victor in CT : 5/25/2022 7:54 am : link
In comment 15717601 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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It is on Netflix. Depp & Pacino are great.


I agree. Love that movie.

Although the end is not true. Lefty was not killed he was arrested, then given a pass because he wouldn't rat. He was a true gangster. It was Sonny Black who was killed for bringing him in and proposing him to be a made guy.
There's more than a bit of dramatic license taken with Donnie Brasco  
Greg from LI : 5/26/2022 10:41 am : link
I read the book long before watching the movie. For one thing, Joe/Donnie kind of hated Lefty, who was an overbearing pain in the ass. Sonny was the guy he genuinely had affection for. All the marital strife was fiction. The character of Richie was a bumbling replacement for the real life "Tony Rossi", whose real name is Ed Robb. Unlike "Richie", he was not an incompetent idiot.

Still an entertaining movie though.
I would add Rob the Mob  
arniefez : 5/26/2022 10:51 am : link
to the list. I just watched it recently. I thought it was well done. Based on a true story. I don't know how much it was fact and how much was fiction.
Thanks guys!  
Grey Pilgrim : 5/26/2022 4:25 pm : link
Lot's of good options for tonight!

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