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Mentions that Lemieux & Thibs matched up against each other often in Eugene, 'iron sharpens iron'. Also, both were team captains.
Thibs still growing & developing.
Thinks Thibs' ceiling is 'limitless', with NFL coaching/thinking about football 24-7-365 instead of also dealing with classes.
Thinks Thibs' impact in run game will be just as impactful vs. him getting to the QB.
Thibs is extremely coachable.
'Never seen a guy' like Lemieux. He has no doubt he'll return stronger after injury. Speaks very highly of Lemieux's character.
Thibs had a very serious ankle injury. 'Credit to him, he played.' Deserves a lot of credit for playing through injury. Missed first half of one game due to targeting call, but refused to come off the field in second half...55-60 defensive plays.
Thibs wants to be pushed, will take hard coaching.
Recruited Neal to 'Bama. Saw him in person...'This is a whole new level of monstrosity'.
Couldn't ask for better guys playing the edges than Thibs & Neal.
Mario & Armstead played together on 'Canes.
Mario's brother was drafted by us in '91 (just learned that) & roots for Giants, citing his brother & his time coaching for Rutgers.
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yea he's all about the trenches. at miami he's brought in almost as many bodies in the trenches as Schoen has this offseason.
But when it comes to the actual game and Xs and Os, I would take nothing Cristobal says seriously.
But when it comes to the actual game and Xs and Os, I would take nothing Cristobal says seriously.
there are about 350 days of the year that arent NSD or gamedays. nobody is going to confuse him with Saban but the immediate turnaround post-Taggart wasn't nothing. he inherited an unranked program off it's 2 worst years in over a decade and turned it around right away.
But when it comes to the actual game and Xs and Os, I would take nothing Cristobal says seriously.
Who says? You?
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is a recruiter disguised as a football coach. And he's an excellent recruiter.
But when it comes to the actual game and Xs and Os, I would take nothing Cristobal says seriously.
Who says? You?
LOL
Guy on message board says pay no attention to a guy who is head coach at a major division 1 school.
Im not sure I want him playing much more than 260 lbs.
But when it comes to the actual game and Xs and Os, I would take nothing Cristobal says seriously.
Despite what others have said you are spot on. As a coach he was a motivator at best. I live in Oregon. He was a hell of a recruiter. But lots of boneheaded decisions as a coach. I do like him though. But for all of you bashing this post, you didn't do your homework, and your silly.
lol
You do your own assessment...
I thought Jimmy Johnson coached Miami Hurricanes in the 1980s before he went to Dallas. Misremembering?
The other thing, in listening to him speak, and hearing of his recruiting trips which led to 3 top players at Bama, I thought Miami is going to be a strong team in a few years. He has a great talent pool accessible to him, if he can recruit like Saban in Florida watch out for the U - in 2024!
But when it comes to the actual game and Xs and Os, I would take nothing Cristobal says seriously.
I dont think that's fair whatsoever. Or it's just very reductive. He is not just throwing talent he recruits in a cup and playing yahtzee. You can question in-game strategy as with all coaches but the suggestion that he doesn't know anything about xs and os is wild.
saying he's not a great strategist is one thing and it's fine. that's not what he is. like many successful college coaches he's more of a culture builder and proven successful to be a successful at that - there's a lot more to that than just recruiting. nobody wins at FIU by recruiting a bunch of stars.
the entire point TTH started with was that Thibs was coming from a program that has a demanding culture that prioritized toughness and he's 100% right.
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is a recruiter disguised as a football coach. And he's an excellent recruiter.
But when it comes to the actual game and Xs and Os, I would take nothing Cristobal says seriously.
Despite what others have said you are spot on. As a coach he was a motivator at best. I live in Oregon. He was a hell of a recruiter. But lots of boneheaded decisions as a coach. I do like him though. But for all of you bashing this post, you didn't do your homework, and your silly.
Indeed. Look, recruiting drives the college game and, as I said, Cristobal is excellent at the part of the job. And I think he'll do a good job re-establishing the recruiting pipeline at Miami. He will definitely make sure Ruiz is writing big checks.
But I don't take anything he says seriously as a coach. His game decisions over the years speak for themselves.
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But when it comes to the actual game and Xs and Os, I would take nothing Cristobal says seriously.
I dont think that's fair whatsoever. Or it's just very reductive. He is not just throwing talent he recruits in a cup and playing yahtzee. You can question in-game strategy as with all coaches but the suggestion that he doesn't know anything about xs and os is wild.
I didn't say he didn't know anything about Xs and Os. I said I don't take anything Cristobal says about the game of football seriously.
The performance of his teams over the years clearly - IMV - demonstrates the guy is not a quality game day coach. He got a lot of talent to come to Eugene in his five years. And despite that, over five years in the piss-poor Pac-12, he got to one major bowl.
saying he's not a great strategist is one thing and it's fine. that's not what he is. like many successful college coaches he's more of a culture builder and proven successful to be a successful at that - there's a lot more to that than just recruiting. nobody wins at FIU by recruiting a bunch of stars.
For the record, Cristobal was 27-47 at FIU. Two winning seasons in six years. He won one bowl game.
Butch Davis was 24-32. Over five seasons, he got FIU to three bowl games. And he won a bowl game.
I get that FIU is not some sleeping giant. But let's not act like any of the above is brilliant work.
You can kill a coach all day on in-game management. We did this exercise with Andy Reid every year of his Eagles career and it damn sure doesn't mean he doesnt know anything about coaching.
I dont see how getting FIU of all places to bowl games wouldn't be enough to give this argument pause. It's FIU.
MC has had a very nice career. I think the gameday stuff gets a little overblown. The most important thing is preparation and that is done before gameday. Interested to see how he does at Miami. The ACC is for the taking imv.
You can kill a coach all day on in-game management. We did this exercise with Andy Reid every year of his Eagles career and it damn sure doesn't mean he doesnt know anything about coaching.
I dont see how getting FIU of all places to bowl games wouldn't be enough to give this argument pause. It's FIU.
if you keep making sense you're only going to invite more disagreeable replies from bw.
bw:
But when it comes to the actual game and Xs and Os, I would take nothing Cristobal says seriously.
Translation…
I have repeatedly expressed my thoughts on The Giants taking Thibs at 5. I don’t agree with the selection. In order to further my argument against the player/choice…I shall take any approach needed. This is my way of indirectly proving my point
Just bw being bw
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is a recruiter disguised as a football coach. And he's an excellent recruiter.
But when it comes to the actual game and Xs and Os, I would take nothing Cristobal says seriously.
Translation…
I have repeatedly expressed my thoughts on The Giants taking Thibs at 5. I don’t agree with the selection. In order to further my argument against the player/choice…I shall take any approach needed. This is my way of indirectly proving my point
Just bw being bw
A lot of people in the professional considerably smarter than me have expressed similar concerns about KT.
Mario Cristobal's advocacy of his own player isn't going to change my opinion.
You can kill a coach all day on in-game management. We did this exercise with Andy Reid every year of his Eagles career and it damn sure doesn't mean he doesnt know anything about coaching.
I dont see how getting FIU of all places to bowl games wouldn't be enough to give this argument pause. It's FIU.
Fair enough on FIU. If you want to see that as something positive, so be it.
Meanwhile, Cristobal's last four recruiting classes with Oregon have been 8th, 6th, 13th and 8th best nationally. So, he's been getting some of the best talent available; and Oregon has dominated the PAC12 for best recruiting classes (the only school remotely close has been USC...)
Yet, Cristobal's team finished in the top ten once and that was when they won their only major bowl appearance (Rose) in 2019. And that was the only year they won the Pac12 championship. He wasn't even close to being the best HC in the PAC12 during his tenure. A guy like Kyle Whittingham has done far more with far less with Utah.
Are you sure Cristobal was COTY in the PAC12?
Cristobal is a great football salesman. Which makes him one of the best recruiters in the country. That satisfies a critical part of a college HC's job description.
I'm just not buying any reason to listen to the guy and his "expert" football opinions.
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In comment 15716758 bw in dc said:
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is a recruiter disguised as a football coach. And he's an excellent recruiter.
But when it comes to the actual game and Xs and Os, I would take nothing Cristobal says seriously.
Translation…
I have repeatedly expressed my thoughts on The Giants taking Thibs at 5. I don’t agree with the selection. In order to further my argument against the player/choice…I shall take any approach needed. This is my way of indirectly proving my point
Just bw being bw
A lot of people in the professional considerably smarter than me have expressed similar concerns about KT.
Mario Cristobal's advocacy of his own player isn't going to change my opinion.
To be really blunt, if bow’s opinion on in-game coaching was worth what HE thinks it is, he wouldn’t be a keyboard warrior.
That was good. I expected great things to be said about Thibs but Cristobal gives really high praise to Lemieux as well. Made me feel better about Lemieux being our starting LG.