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NFT: Game 4: Carolina Hurricanes @ NY Rangers - 7:00 PM on ESPN

Anakim : 5/24/2022 9:55 am
What? I need to pump you guys up? EVEN THIS SERIES UP AND HEAD BACK TO MADISON SQUARE PNC ARENA. Let's do it, boys. Defeat these fuckers three more times and then battle the Tampa Bay Thanos by reading our long and exhaustive resumes!



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I had a lot of confidence  
pjcas18 : 5/24/2022 9:57 am : link
of a NYR win tonight, but an Anakim thread? 50/50 game now.
RE: I had a lot of confidence  
Anakim : 5/24/2022 9:59 am : link
In comment 15717060 pjcas18 said:
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of a NYR win tonight, but an Anakim thread? 50/50 game now.


You give me far too much credit, my friend. It's more like 80/20 in favor of Carolina heading home with a 3-1 lead.
My confidence for the Canes winning tonight  
Jints in Carolina : 5/24/2022 10:02 am : link
has just grown LOL

;)
this could be a slapshot game, I see a fight on the opening faceoff  
gtt350 : 5/24/2022 10:17 am : link
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arcarsenal : 5/24/2022 10:24 am : link
Have to make sure we go back to Raleigh @ 2-2. I think we will.

LGR.
Like I said, if the Canes lose the series  
Jints in Carolina : 5/24/2022 10:26 am : link
I will gladly pull for NYR vs TB.

So sick of the Lightning.
I I don't know if you know who is going to be able to enlighten us  
FrankHuntington : 5/24/2022 10:27 am : link
As to what we're watching tonight. He hinted at accepting a PE Emeritus position at his local High School for his work in creating the perfect Dodgeball court and he has to finish his speech as he is slated to win the very first Nobel Laureate for sportscasting this year. The man is devouring life.
this is it. you're not in trouble until you lose a home game  
Victor in CT : 5/24/2022 10:30 am : link
hold serve and make it best of 3. I like their chance, but for fucks sake: SHOOT THE PUCK.
RE: Like I said, if the Canes lose the series  
arcarsenal : 5/24/2022 10:30 am : link
In comment 15717082 Jints in Carolina said:
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I will gladly pull for NYR vs TB.

So sick of the Lightning.


Florida felt like such a weird team to me; they won the President's Trophy, but they never seemed like a dominant team or a team that had SCF written all over them.

That said, I really did not expect TBL to make such quick work of them. Especially without Brayden Point.
Let's fucking go  
bigbluehoya : 5/24/2022 10:38 am : link
I was offered a ticket in the firm suite for tonight's game, but turned it down so that I can watch it with my 7 year old at home.

I've got no better juju to offer than that. Let's fucking get it done.
Really hope they don't do anything stupid to start the game  
Greg from LI : 5/24/2022 10:40 am : link
Winning the game will be much better payback for the Domi thing than starting a brawl and risking an early PP for the Canes.
RE: Really hope they don't do anything stupid to start the game  
Victor in CT : 5/24/2022 10:41 am : link
In comment 15717106 Greg from LI said:
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Winning the game will be much better payback for the Domi thing than starting a brawl and risking an early PP for the Canes.


agree. just hit them hard but clean. you don't do that while you still have a chance to win.
RE: Really hope they don't do anything stupid to start the game  
bigbluehoya : 5/24/2022 10:43 am : link
In comment 15717106 Greg from LI said:
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Winning the game will be much better payback for the Domi thing than starting a brawl and risking an early PP for the Canes.


Agree 100%. I hope that Reaves is a little more activated and antagonistic after the whistle than he has been, but the #1 priority, without a doubt is to stay out of the fucking penalty box.
RE: Really hope they don't do anything stupid to start the game  
Jints in Carolina : 5/24/2022 10:44 am : link
In comment 15717106 Greg from LI said:
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Winning the game will be much better payback for the Domi thing than starting a brawl and risking an early PP for the Canes.


our PP is shit
Shesty has his confidence now  
Ron Johnson : 5/24/2022 11:18 am : link
only 4 goals against in regulation. He's getting in their heads.
If Carolina hopes to do anything...  
BillKo : 5/24/2022 11:23 am : link
..they'll have to start winning some games on the road.

Gotta figure they're due?
RE: RE: Really hope they don't do anything stupid to start the game  
Costy16 : 5/24/2022 12:02 pm : link
In comment 15717109 Victor in CT said:
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Winning the game will be much better payback for the Domi thing than starting a brawl and risking an early PP for the Canes.



agree. just hit them hard but clean. you don't do that while you still have a chance to win.


People harp on Reaves because they feel like he doesn't do enough to rough guys up, get payback, etc.

Keep in mind, there aren't many, if any, guys that want to get caught up in a fight with him.

Reaves knows his role very well, he knows when to pick his spot and is well aware he cannot afford to something that puts his own team at a disadvantage, especially now. Which is why he didn't do anything with Domi and Lindgren after the whistle on Sunday. The ref had him tied up, he's not going to risk anything.

He lays a couple of healthy clean licks on people, the point is well made.
RE: If Carolina hopes to do anything...  
pjcas18 : 5/24/2022 12:23 pm : link
In comment 15717169 BillKo said:
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..they'll have to start winning some games on the road.

Gotta figure they're due?

They don't need to win a road game until the SCF - and that's only if COL wins the West - otherwise CAR could only win at home and win the cup.

they have home ice vs both NYR and TBL (as well as vs EDM, CAL, and STL) - they just can't lose at home.
Hahaha  
thevett : 5/24/2022 12:52 pm : link
“ Shoot the F-Ing puck “ sounds like The Big Whistle’s advice to Barry Beck.
RE: RE: RE: Really hope they don't do anything stupid to start the game  
Victor in CT : 5/24/2022 1:08 pm : link
In comment 15717193 Costy16 said:
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Winning the game will be much better payback for the Domi thing than starting a brawl and risking an early PP for the Canes.



agree. just hit them hard but clean. you don't do that while you still have a chance to win.



People harp on Reaves because they feel like he doesn't do enough to rough guys up, get payback, etc.

Keep in mind, there aren't many, if any, guys that want to get caught up in a fight with him.

Reaves knows his role very well, he knows when to pick his spot and is well aware he cannot afford to something that puts his own team at a disadvantage, especially now. Which is why he didn't do anything with Domi and Lindgren after the whistle on Sunday. The ref had him tied up, he's not going to risk anything.

He lays a couple of healthy clean licks on people, the point is well made.


yes exactly. Reaves is not a goon. he's a useful player who plays hard.
RE: Hahaha  
Victor in CT : 5/24/2022 1:09 pm : link
In comment 15717223 thevett said:
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“ Shoot the F-Ing puck “ sounds like The Big Whistle’s advice to Barry Beck.


that's exactly right!
more Big Whistle-isms  
Victor in CT : 5/24/2022 1:13 pm : link
you get point shots, you win hockey games

it had goal written all over it but it couldn't spell

he's a tough guy at home, but hits you with a sack of cream cheese on the road

Gene Carr couldn't put it in the ocean if was standing on the pier (with the Rangers)

(then with the Kings after he scored against the Rangers) It's a bigger ocean Chim.
Raanta in for Carolina tonight  
ShockNRoll : 5/24/2022 1:30 pm : link
Per Sara Civ on twitter. Looks like Andersen is close to returning. Honestly, no disrespect to him, but the way Raanta is playing, I don’t see an Andersen who hasn’t played in over a month as an upgrade over Raanta.

Rangers would take another game like the other night, with Carolina having a high volume/low quality night and the Rangers’ stars making a few plays to win the game. Low event games like game 2 favor the Canes, let’s get this going back and forth and let our goalie and big guns get the job done!
Reaves isn't a goon?  
pjcas18 : 5/24/2022 1:35 pm : link
115 career points in 755 games, with 980 PIMs and 2600 hits.

that's a goon IMO or the closest thing you will find to a goon in today's game.

RE: RE: RE: Really hope they don't do anything stupid to start the game  
FrankHuntington : 5/24/2022 1:36 pm : link
In comment 15717193 Costy16 said:
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Winning the game will be much better payback for the Domi thing than starting a brawl and risking an early PP for the Canes.



agree. just hit them hard but clean. you don't do that while you still have a chance to win.



People harp on Reaves because they feel like he doesn't do enough to rough guys up, get payback, etc.

Keep in mind, there aren't many, if any, guys that want to get caught up in a fight with him.

Reaves knows his role very well, he knows when to pick his spot and is well aware he cannot afford to something that puts his own team at a disadvantage, especially now. Which is why he didn't do anything with Domi and Lindgren after the whistle on Sunday. The ref had him tied up, he's not going to risk anything.

He lays a couple of healthy clean licks on people, the point is well made.


You don't know what you're watching.

Reaves needs to go out there and kill every member of the Hurricanes during pre-game with a sharpened stick, take the penalty mins al9ng with a premeditated murder charge in exchange for wiping out the whole team for the rest of the series. Then we just have to keep K'Andre Miller off the ice so he doesnt shoot the puck into the back of his own net 4 or 5 time the rest of the series. That is how you win hockey games

- S
RE: Reaves isn't a goon?  
FrankHuntington : 5/24/2022 1:40 pm : link
In comment 15717276 pjcas18 said:
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115 career points in 755 games, with 980 PIMs and 2600 hits.

that's a goon IMO or the closest thing you will find to a goon in today's game.


Eh, when I think of a goon, I think of players that are actually net negatives if on the ice and literally all they can do is intimidate. Stu Grimson, Parros, Brian McGrattan...Reaves is much closer to Tie Domi...he can play a little bit. Sure, that reputation may have existed previously. But when was the last time he was in the box?
Carolina’s whole game plan has been to play disciplined  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 5/24/2022 1:40 pm : link
defensively and wait for the Rangers to make a mistake.

Would be foolish to act out early on Domis BS at the end of Game 3.

RE: Reaves isn't a goon?  
Victor in CT : 5/24/2022 1:45 pm : link
In comment 15717276 pjcas18 said:
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115 career points in 755 games, with 980 PIMs and 2600 hits.

that's a goon IMO or the closest thing you will find to a goon in today's game.


no he's not. he can play his role without taking cheap shots or intentionally maiming people like Tie Domi or Dave Shultz. He's a role player.
Yeah I don’t see Reaves as a goon  
ShockNRoll : 5/24/2022 2:19 pm : link
His max penalty minutes in a season is 126, that’s not anywhere near goon territory. Dale Hunter, Dave Schultz, Tiger Williams, Marty McSorley, Terry O’Reilly, Rob Ray, Bob Probert, Donald Brashear were goons. Some of these guys probably spent more time in the penalty box than they did on the ice! Reaves is absolutely nowhere near the category of goon compared to these guys.
Stupid Things at the Beginning  
Percy : 5/24/2022 2:19 pm : link
Would it be too much to ask for the Rangers to get through the first five minutes without taking a penalty?
RE: RE: Reaves isn't a goon?  
JayBinQueens : 5/24/2022 2:20 pm : link
In comment 15717291 Victor in CT said:
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115 career points in 755 games, with 980 PIMs and 2600 hits.

that's a goon IMO or the closest thing you will find to a goon in today's game.




no he's not. he can play his role without taking cheap shots or intentionally maiming people like Tie Domi or Dave Shultz. He's a role player.


Would you consider Matt Martin a goon?
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arcarsenal : 5/24/2022 2:25 pm : link
Reaves is just more of a modern "goon," IMO. I feel most teams aren't icing policemen on skates who exist solely to fight and get penalized anymore. Reaves is definitely a more effective and functional player than someone like John Scott was.
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Victor in CT : 5/24/2022 2:27 pm : link
In comment 15717344 JayBinQueens said:
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115 career points in 755 games, with 980 PIMs and 2600 hits.

that's a goon IMO or the closest thing you will find to a goon in today's game.




no he's not. he can play his role without taking cheap shots or intentionally maiming people like Tie Domi or Dave Shultz. He's a role player.



Would you consider Matt Martin a goon?


Can't comment. I know he's on the Islanders, but I really haven't seen him play enough to say. And I would have given the same answer re Reaves prior to the season. Knew of his tough guy rep, but really had know of what kind of player he was.
RE: Reaves isn't a goon?  
Costy16 : 5/24/2022 2:30 pm : link
In comment 15717276 pjcas18 said:
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115 career points in 755 games, with 980 PIMs and 2600 hits.

that's a goon IMO or the closest thing you will find to a goon in today's game.


Matt Cooke was a goon, one of the dirtiest players I can remember in the last 15 years.

Until he met a young and budding Evander Kane.
Reaves was literally one of the worst forwards in hockey this year  
Greg from LI : 5/24/2022 2:38 pm : link
He was an okay role player at times in the past, but the Rangers give up a ton of chances whenever he's in the game. He's glacially slow and possesses almost no skills of any kind beyond hitting.
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Victor in CT : 5/24/2022 2:48 pm : link
In comment 15717346 arcarsenal said:
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Reaves is just more of a modern "goon," IMO. I feel most teams aren't icing policemen on skates who exist solely to fight and get penalized anymore. Reaves is definitely a more effective and functional player than someone like John Scott was.


well put.
and yeah, since most teams don't have a guy who is there solely  
Greg from LI : 5/24/2022 2:54 pm : link
to fight these days, you don't get the really high penalty minutes anymore. Guys like Stu Grimson would get 300 in a season and probably 270 of them were fighting majors in bouts with the other teams' goons.
Well that's why I said  
pjcas18 : 5/24/2022 2:54 pm : link
"...or the closest thing you will find to a goon in today's game."

I see we're all in agreement then.
Every team used to have at least one guy with 150+  
Greg from LI : 5/24/2022 2:58 pm : link
A lot of teams had two or more, some with 200+. The '87-88 Red Wings had Probert with 398, Kocur with 263, and the Rangers' own Gerard Gallant with 246.
RE: Every team used to have at least one guy with 150+  
Victor in CT : 5/24/2022 3:29 pm : link
In comment 15717385 Greg from LI said:
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A lot of teams had two or more, some with 200+. The '87-88 Red Wings had Probert with 398, Kocur with 263, and the Rangers' own Gerard Gallant with 246.


you mean every team except the Rangers. ;-)
Hmmm  
Anakim : 5/24/2022 6:41 pm : link
Dan Rosen
@drosennhl
NYR: Kaapo Kakko is warming up as the left wing on the fourth line with Kevin Rooney and Ryan Reaves; Tyler Motte is the right wing on the third line with Filip Chytil and Alexis Lafreniere.
RE: Hmmm  
FrankHuntington : 5/24/2022 6:53 pm : link
In comment 15717555 Anakim said:
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Dan Rosen
@drosennhl
NYR: Kaapo Kakko is warming up as the left wing on the fourth line with Kevin Rooney and Ryan Reaves; Tyler Motte is the right wing on the third line with Filip Chytil and Alexis Lafreniere.


Not.....opposed to it, but I always thought Kaako was really great at keeping possessions alive and extending possessions.

Weird timing too as that KIDS line has been the best of all all playoffs.
Came out really wrong  
FrankHuntington : 5/24/2022 6:54 pm : link
Meant getting to pucks along the boards, winning them and extending possessiins
Guess  
Percy : 5/24/2022 7:03 pm : link
This is going to 7 games -- win or loss tonight (I see tonight as 45R/55tH) -- and a finish in Carolina.
PS  
Percy : 5/24/2022 7:06 pm : link
Aho must be stopped. Never let him get behind a Ranger player without someone on him. Forecheck and shoot! LGR!
That power play  
pjcas18 : 5/24/2022 7:25 pm : link
was lethal, thought Mika was going to score - that's the shot they're trying to open up.
that was  
pjcas18 : 5/24/2022 7:30 pm : link
a vicious hit by Trouba. You knew Domi was going to have to answer for his bullshit
Rangers are fighting  
rnargi : 5/24/2022 7:31 pm : link
...love this start but need to score or it could be a game 1 situation
Love the way we’re playing  
Anakim : 5/24/2022 7:31 pm : link
Here comes our second PP
There you go!  
rnargi : 5/24/2022 7:35 pm : link
Frankie Veeee!
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