Offense
QB Daniel Jones
RB Saquon Barkley
WR Kenny Golladay
WR Kadarius Toney
WR Sterling Shepard
WR Wan'Dale Robinson
LT Andrew Thomas
LG Joshua Ezeudu
C Jon Feliciano
RG Mark Glowinski
RT Evan Neal
The Marv Levy Bills with 4 WRs? TE is critical to this offense as is H Back, no chance 4 WRs start. Crowder will lose his job, Robbie is correct, he absolutely sucks. Beavers may very well nudge him out.
The Marv Levy Bills with 4 WRs? TE is critical to this offense as is H Back, no chance 4 WRs start. Crowder will lose his job, Robbie is correct, he absolutely sucks. Beavers may very well nudge him out.
The Marv Levy Bills with 4 WRs? TE is critical to this offense as is H Back, no chance 4 WRs start. Crowder will lose his job, Robbie is correct, he absolutely sucks. Beavers may very well nudge him out.
Have you looked at the TE depth chart? Atkinson is the closest we come to a traditional TE, and he’s at best a solid TE2. Daboll may well have to adjust until they can groom one of the rookies, or get reinforcements, which may not be this season.
there really is not a lot of depth - and most of you are right - this looks like a weird roster but how can you project any of the 4th-6th Round and UDFAs as starters right now?
I'm glad they drafted McFadden and Beavers, even if those investments were relatively minor. They could pay big dividends down the road.
I'm pretty high on Bellinger. I expect him to start sooner rather than later, and I wouldn't discount Jeremiah Hall making the team and making an impact.
I know it's a passing league now, and I know the Bills were extremely pass-centric. But we're not the Bills, and even though it's gone out of fashion it seems to me that the Giants are being built to run the ball well...more often than we might expect.
I'm glad they drafted McFadden and Beavers, even if those investments were relatively minor. They could pay big dividends down the road.
I'm pretty high on Bellinger. I expect him to start sooner rather than later, and I wouldn't discount Jeremiah Hall making the team and making an impact.
I know it's a passing league now, and I know the Bills were extremely pass-centric. But we're not the Bills, and even though it's gone out of fashion it seems to me that the Giants are being built to run the ball well...more often than we might expect.
The Bills were not looking good offensively at some points last year. They looked a lot better when they were running the ball more down the stretch.
Its not much of a stretch to think that will be the starters
The Marv Levy Bills with 4 WRs? TE is critical to this offense as is H Back, no chance 4 WRs start. Crowder will lose his job, Robbie is correct, he absolutely sucks. Beavers may very well nudge him out.
Run-and-shoot baby!
Yep, it's a passing league, look at top teams from last year, all high in passing yards per game .
2-4-5 defense is going to become the base, I'll have to re-do the depth chart.
I've heard some people compare to Little Bill's Super Bowl 25 defense. But in 1990 you could beat the crap out of WR's and put the fear of God in them. And did it really stop the Bills from scoring? I've always maintained that it was the Giants offense that kept the score low by keeping the Bills offense on the bench. Let's face it, the Bills had the ball for only 19 minutes and still scored 19 points. They also came pretty close to scoring 22.
2-4-5 defense is going to become the base, I'll have to re-do the depth chart.
Is this what Wink runs or is he guessing. I would think a 3-3-5 is more likely to counter 3 WR sets. Crowder is probably the worst player on the D but he’s out there over a DL. Opposing OLs would have to be salivating to face a 2 man front I’d be surprised.
2-4-5 defense is going to become the base, I'll have to re-do the depth chart.
I read an article from last year previewing the Ravens defense. It described Martindale’s base defense as consisting of “5 DBs and 6 other players”. Very positionless.
Positional depth charts make sense (mostly), but there are so many combinations and formations of positions and it changes week to week.
It's silly to say "These 11 players are the starters."
I guess the best way to approach it is to list the eleven guys who you anticipate playing the most snaps as being the starters, but recognize the additional one or two guys who will be seeing double-digit snaps each game. So if there are four receivers who will see the field more than any of your tight ends, h-backs, or fullbacks, then they deserve to be considered the "starters" and same goes for nickel cornerbacks.
2-4-5 defense is going to become the base, I'll have to re-do the depth chart.
I read an article from last year previewing the Ravens defense. It described Martindale’s base defense as consisting of “5 DBs and 6 other players”. Very positionless.
The 6 other players (on most downs):
DE Leonard Williams
DT Dexter Lawrence
OLB Kayvon Thibodeaux
OLB Azeez Ojulari
LB Blake Martinez
TBD?
2-4-5 defense is going to become the base, I'll have to re-do the depth chart.
I read an article from last year previewing the Ravens defense. It described Martindale’s base defense as consisting of “5 DBs and 6 other players”. Very positionless.
I'm glad they drafted McFadden and Beavers, even if those investments were relatively minor. They could pay big dividends down the road.
I'm pretty high on Bellinger. I expect him to start sooner rather than later, and I wouldn't discount Jeremiah Hall making the team and making an impact.
I know it's a passing league now, and I know the Bills were extremely pass-centric. But we're not the Bills, and even though it's gone out of fashion it seems to me that the Giants are being built to run the ball well...more often than we might expect.
The Bills were not looking good offensively at some points last year. They looked a lot better when they were running the ball more down the stretch.
There was an article on this. Bills started off throwing more on first down than just about anybody, and with great success. As the season wore on defenses started to adjust by shifting to 3rd down defensive packages on 1st down. Which meant more defensive backs and more first down blitz looks, also formations where they were effectively daring Buffalo to run. Buffalo started shifting personnel the other direction in order to ramp up the run game.
I'm glad they drafted McFadden and Beavers, even if those investments were relatively minor. They could pay big dividends down the road.
I'm pretty high on Bellinger. I expect him to start sooner rather than later, and I wouldn't discount Jeremiah Hall making the team and making an impact.
I know it's a passing league now, and I know the Bills were extremely pass-centric. But we're not the Bills, and even though it's gone out of fashion it seems to me that the Giants are being built to run the ball well...more often than we might expect.
The Bills were not looking good offensively at some points last year. They looked a lot better when they were running the ball more down the stretch.
There was an article on this. Bills started off throwing more on first down than just about anybody, and with great success. As the season wore on defenses started to adjust by shifting to 3rd down defensive packages on 1st down. Which meant more defensive backs and more first down blitz looks, also formations where they were effectively daring Buffalo to run. Buffalo started shifting personnel the other direction in order to ramp up the run game.
It's no secret that the Giants needed to upgrade their O-Line to give Jones more protection and allow him to get the ball to their playmakers. Where they could, they also added playmakers who fit what Daboll and Kafka want to accomplish on offense, not just at WR, but at RB and TE, too.
However, I think a "by product" of this could be a much improved running game, and I hope to see offensive game plans that take advantage of that if and when the opportunity arises.
Crowder!
Joe Schoen has a long 2023 to-do list and upgrading the MLB position is one of the items.
It's a mutli-year re-build.
Run-and-shoot baby!
Have you looked at the TE depth chart? Atkinson is the closest we come to a traditional TE, and he’s at best a solid TE2. Daboll may well have to adjust until they can groom one of the rookies, or get reinforcements, which may not be this season.
I'm pretty high on Bellinger. I expect him to start sooner rather than later, and I wouldn't discount Jeremiah Hall making the team and making an impact.
I know it's a passing league now, and I know the Bills were extremely pass-centric. But we're not the Bills, and even though it's gone out of fashion it seems to me that the Giants are being built to run the ball well...more often than we might expect.
I'm pretty high on Bellinger. I expect him to start sooner rather than later, and I wouldn't discount Jeremiah Hall making the team and making an impact.
I know it's a passing league now, and I know the Bills were extremely pass-centric. But we're not the Bills, and even though it's gone out of fashion it seems to me that the Giants are being built to run the ball well...more often than we might expect.
The Bills were not looking good offensively at some points last year. They looked a lot better when they were running the ball more down the stretch.
On D Crowder and Flott would be the 2 that may not be there.
All the rest seem like locks barring injury.
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The Marv Levy Bills with 4 WRs? TE is critical to this offense as is H Back, no chance 4 WRs start. Crowder will lose his job, Robbie is correct, he absolutely sucks. Beavers may very well nudge him out.
Run-and-shoot baby!
Yep, it's a passing league, look at top teams from last year, all high in passing yards per game .
I've heard some people compare to Little Bill's Super Bowl 25 defense. But in 1990 you could beat the crap out of WR's and put the fear of God in them. And did it really stop the Bills from scoring? I've always maintained that it was the Giants offense that kept the score low by keeping the Bills offense on the bench. Let's face it, the Bills had the ball for only 19 minutes and still scored 19 points. They also came pretty close to scoring 22.
Positional depth charts make sense (mostly), but there are so many combinations and formations of positions and it changes week to week.
It's silly to say "These 11 players are the starters."
Is this what Wink runs or is he guessing. I would think a 3-3-5 is more likely to counter 3 WR sets. Crowder is probably the worst player on the D but he’s out there over a DL. Opposing OLs would have to be salivating to face a 2 man front I’d be surprised.
Inside backer- McFadden/Beavers
I read an article from last year previewing the Ravens defense. It described Martindale’s base defense as consisting of “5 DBs and 6 other players”. Very positionless.
Positional depth charts make sense (mostly), but there are so many combinations and formations of positions and it changes week to week.
It's silly to say "These 11 players are the starters."
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2-4-5 defense is going to become the base, I'll have to re-do the depth chart.
I read an article from last year previewing the Ravens defense. It described Martindale’s base defense as consisting of “5 DBs and 6 other players”. Very positionless.
The 6 other players (on most downs):
DE Leonard Williams
DT Dexter Lawrence
OLB Kayvon Thibodeaux
OLB Azeez Ojulari
LB Blake Martinez
TBD?
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2-4-5 defense is going to become the base, I'll have to re-do the depth chart.
I read an article from last year previewing the Ravens defense. It described Martindale’s base defense as consisting of “5 DBs and 6 other players”. Very positionless.
Another amoeba defense?
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I'm glad they drafted McFadden and Beavers, even if those investments were relatively minor. They could pay big dividends down the road.
I'm pretty high on Bellinger. I expect him to start sooner rather than later, and I wouldn't discount Jeremiah Hall making the team and making an impact.
I know it's a passing league now, and I know the Bills were extremely pass-centric. But we're not the Bills, and even though it's gone out of fashion it seems to me that the Giants are being built to run the ball well...more often than we might expect.
The Bills were not looking good offensively at some points last year. They looked a lot better when they were running the ball more down the stretch.
There was an article on this. Bills started off throwing more on first down than just about anybody, and with great success. As the season wore on defenses started to adjust by shifting to 3rd down defensive packages on 1st down. Which meant more defensive backs and more first down blitz looks, also formations where they were effectively daring Buffalo to run. Buffalo started shifting personnel the other direction in order to ramp up the run game.
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I'm glad they drafted McFadden and Beavers, even if those investments were relatively minor. They could pay big dividends down the road.
I'm pretty high on Bellinger. I expect him to start sooner rather than later, and I wouldn't discount Jeremiah Hall making the team and making an impact.
I know it's a passing league now, and I know the Bills were extremely pass-centric. But we're not the Bills, and even though it's gone out of fashion it seems to me that the Giants are being built to run the ball well...more often than we might expect.
The Bills were not looking good offensively at some points last year. They looked a lot better when they were running the ball more down the stretch.
There was an article on this. Bills started off throwing more on first down than just about anybody, and with great success. As the season wore on defenses started to adjust by shifting to 3rd down defensive packages on 1st down. Which meant more defensive backs and more first down blitz looks, also formations where they were effectively daring Buffalo to run. Buffalo started shifting personnel the other direction in order to ramp up the run game.
It's no secret that the Giants needed to upgrade their O-Line to give Jones more protection and allow him to get the ball to their playmakers. Where they could, they also added playmakers who fit what Daboll and Kafka want to accomplish on offense, not just at WR, but at RB and TE, too.
However, I think a "by product" of this could be a much improved running game, and I hope to see offensive game plans that take advantage of that if and when the opportunity arises.