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| To get a better understanding of how the Giants’ 11-player draft class is viewed around the league, I solicited an assessment from an executive with another team. |
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| Executive’s take: Robinson was widely projected to be picked in the third round or later, so it surprised some that he went early in the second round. But the executive was more surprised initially that the Giants targeted a wide receiver with the 43rd pick. “That one surprised me just because they’re financially tied to (Kenny) Golladay, (Kadarius) Toney, Sterling Shepard is still there, albeit coming off injury,” the executive said. “As soon as you heard of Toney and (Darius) Slayton being available via trade, then you were wondering what they think of those players. I think Wan’Dale ends up being their version of Cole Beasley, maybe a more dynamic version. I think a lot of what the slot does for the quarterback in their offense is a lot of sight adjustments, a lot of locate and settle, pre-snap and post-snap adjustments and reads. So maybe they trust Wan’Dale’s ability to do that more than Kadarius.” There were other higher-profile receivers on the board, but none of those players fit the Giants offense as well as the shifty Robinson. “Instant separation,” the executive said. “They’re not going to hesitate to spread you out in empty, they’re not going to hesitate to play with 10 personnel (four wide receivers).” The obvious concern with Robinson is his 5-foot-8, 178-pound frame. “I think you know too small when you see it,” the executive said. “He’s pretty well put together. He’s 180 pounds at 5-8. He’s one of those guys that’s short and short-limbed, but he’s not small, if that makes sense.” |
The fact that the Giants are "financially tied" to the receivers he mentions - three of whom probably don't have much of a future here - is a HUGE reason why you draft a WR in round two.
Because teams are starting to realize they can't afford the second contracts on these guys.
We're going to see WR be a position of emphasis in the draft for the foreseeable future.
That financial comment seems silly.
This sounds like some low level clueless exec...
the comments on the players both good and bad seem fair.
Everyone has an opinion and this is pretty meaningless.
Everyone has an opinion and this is pretty meaningless.
not sure i'd call it meaningless, it's a professional opinion. it would obviously be better to know what level of professional it is, but just being employed by an actual team not talking about their own player puts it ahead of 99% of what we generally read.
especially if it's someone in an amateur scouting role. i'd imagine those guys have very little need to know the pro personnel of other teams.
The fact that the Giants are "financially tied" to the receivers he mentions - three of whom probably don't have much of a future here - is a HUGE reason why you draft a WR in round two.
This league is a passing league hence wideouts are a MUST.
That financial comment seems silly.
This sounds like some low level clueless exec...
Yeah, it's a good thing to keep in mind whenever you're tempted to give an article credibility because the words "NFL Exec" appear in the headline: there are more bad NFL execs than good.
That financial comment seems silly.
This sounds like some low level clueless exec...
His cap hit is >$21M in each of the next three years, they're extremely upside down vs. dead money this year and only $6.7M in potential savings next year (vs. $14.7M dead money) unless they were to designate KG as a 6/1 release. That's a pretty significant financial commitment even if it doesn't reach some arbitrary $30M/yr benchmark.
18m/year is currently the 14th highest cap # for WRs but deebo, metcalf, mclaurin, diontae, and maybe a few others will push that down by this time next year.
will be pretty interesting to see what guys like renfrow and jacobi myers get next year after that ridiculous kirk contract (which is also 18m/year). I'd take both of those guys over Kirk.
One other point about Mack, and Ware...they both played 4 years of college football and left as seniors..playing their first NFL snap at 23 years of age. KT will be playing his first NFL season as a 21 year old.
maybe im crazy but i'd sign for that level of output. obviously hope for more, but i can understand not seeing Von Miller or Jevon Kearse in any rookie, those guys were day 1 all pro phenoms. Kearse had 8 forced fumbles and came in as runner up for DPOY as a rookie. Miller also an all pro as a rookie.
no disagreement. I think the hope is Thibs ends up somewhere in between those 2 groups - your Ware/Mack comps are good ones. that's the hope. im just saying i dont think it's a bad outcome if he ends up just below that (like Clowney), which fits the description this exec had for Thibs.