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NFT: Mets at Giants Game 2. Bassitt

ZGiants98 : 5/24/2022 6:34 pm
Mets Lineup

1.). Nimmo CF
2.) Marte RF
3.) Lindor SS
4.) Alonso 1B
5.) McNeil 2B
6.) Escobar 3B
7.) Canha LF
8.) Smith DH
9.) Nido C

Let's Gooooooo!
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RE: don't know if I would call it a big game  
Eric on Li : 5/25/2022 12:05 pm : link
In comment 15718031 KDavies said:
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Mets are up 8 on both the Phillies and Braves. A series win on the road vs. the Giants would be huge, but hard to expect it with essentially their 9th starter going. Fortunately, Braves and Phillies play each other next two days. So, even with a loss, the Mets either lose only 1/2 game to them (if the teams split), or they pick up ground on one of them if there is a split.

The weekend series against the Phillies is the one they need to win.


any series can go any way so while yes the games in the philly series count double, who knows what's going to transpire. there are lots of ways to drop a series and it's just bad luck and you move on. wheeler throws a no hitter or something and you tip your cap.

the worst way to lose are late losses against your BP and in this case 2 of their best relievers. Those games have a way of lingering and can propel teams to extended bad stretches where nothing the offense or starter does feels like it's safe from an emotionally draining bp implosion. the 2019 and 2021 seasons folded for good on Diaz blow saves in early September.
Dodgers  
DanMetroMan : 5/25/2022 2:53 pm : link
interested in Soto. Unreal.
Vientos  
GF1080 : 5/25/2022 3:03 pm : link
Another HR today.
Good  
DanMetroMan : 5/25/2022 3:07 pm : link
to see him heating up but 19 k's over 51 ab's in May suggests he needs more time down there.
.  
DanMetroMan : 5/25/2022 3:17 pm : link
Mangum 3-5, steal. Nice game from Vientos (HR) but also committed his 9th error (26 games at 3b).

Connor Grey with an effective outing for Syracuse. 6 innings 4 hits 0 runs 0 walks 2 k's. Locke St. John not so good... 1.1 innings 4 hits 3 runs 0 walks 1 k
RE: Mets are never winning anything with Diaz  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/25/2022 3:31 pm : link
In comment 15717832 Vanzetti said:
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Great stuff but is a head case.

I know some have claimed he has changed and every closer blows saves. But they are really trying to convince themselves.


This is weird placement for this take. Before last night he allowed 11 hits and 4 ERs for the season. He's been excellent.
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DanMetroMan : 5/25/2022 3:56 pm : link
JT Schwartz has been underwhelming in 2022. For a "polished" college hitter a 91 wRC+ and 26% k-rate is very underwhelming, tough ballpark or not
Szapucki  
pjcas18 : 5/25/2022 3:57 pm : link
hits 97 and k's the leadoff batter.

Wilmer doubles, Yaz walks - Szapucki in a little bit of trouble.
RE: Szapucki  
pjcas18 : 5/25/2022 3:58 pm : link
In comment 15718252 pjcas18 said:
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hits 97 and k's the leadoff batter.

Wilmer doubles, Yaz walks - Szapucki in a little bit of trouble.


and gives up a 3 run HR
Szapucki  
DanMetroMan : 5/25/2022 3:58 pm : link
may have a future in the BP but he has only 2 pitches and has never shown an ability to go deep into games.
That’s what happens when you fiddle…  
Shecky : 5/25/2022 4:02 pm : link
He used to set high and away. They moved it in.

He used to have a nice smooth, quick motion.
Now it’s slow and deliberate, and a 14 year old can time his motion.

Fix it, and you’ve got a good arm. Don’t fix it, and it’s BP. Today shows it n
well,  
JayBinQueens : 5/25/2022 4:06 pm : link
the CS was nice
RE: Dodgers  
KDavies : 5/25/2022 4:11 pm : link
In comment 15718188 DanMetroMan said:
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interested in Soto. Unreal.


Don't see them as a match prospect-wise, unless they empty out their system. Cartaya is their only top 50 prospect, and the Nationals just traded for Ruiz. Guess they could move Cartaya to 1B/DH, but I'd have to imagine the Nationals could get more elsewhere.

I'd love the Mets, but same issue with Alvarez. Baty/Mauricio/plus is likely not enough. Honestly, best matchup on team willing to take on salary plus having the prospects is the Yankees (though they have gotten more salary-conscious lately). Even keeping Volpe, the Yankees could center a package around Peraza/Dominguez.
FWIW  
DanMetroMan : 5/25/2022 4:14 pm : link
Keith Law ranks 5 Dodgers prospects in the top 76 and 3 in his top 53, he also had 3 in his "just missed" in his top 100 so if they wanted Soto they have the ammo to do so.
Here  
DanMetroMan : 5/25/2022 4:15 pm : link
is Law

"This is the best farm system in baseball, with roughly 10 guys who’d be on a global top 150 (note to my editors: NO) and a whole different kind of depth — their “depth” guys aren’t depth guys for a major-league team, but prospects who have real upside and are just further away or higher-variance than the guys in their top 10."
Here  
DanMetroMan : 5/25/2022 4:17 pm : link
he is on the Dodgers #7 prospect who recently debuted


"The Dodgers’ system is hilarious; I see at least four other guys who had a credible argument to be on the top 100 or this just-missed list. Pepiot has an 80 changeup, one of the best pitches of its type in baseball right now, along with an above-average fastball, although he didn’t dominate left-handed batters last year as you’d expect for someone with a change or splitter of that caliber. "

So yeah, sadly if they want Soto they are in a great position to do so, especially with Bauer's money off the books.
.  
DanMetroMan : 5/25/2022 4:20 pm : link
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Of Joc Pederson’s 11 home runs this season, five have come against the #Mets.
This has to be a new  
JayBinQueens : 5/25/2022 4:22 pm : link
ball.
.  
DanMetroMan : 5/25/2022 4:22 pm : link
BK DH Jose Mena having himself a day 3-3 with a 3 run homer, Jaylen Palmer now 2-2 with a 2b (showing signs of life)
RE: FWIW  
KDavies : 5/25/2022 4:25 pm : link
In comment 15718271 DanMetroMan said:
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Keith Law ranks 5 Dodgers prospects in the top 76 and 3 in his top 53, he also had 3 in his "just missed" in his top 100 so if they wanted Soto they have the ammo to do so.


Thus my point in saying the Dodgers would have to empty out their system. If I'm the Nationals, and the headliner is Bobby Miller or a Cartaya (who will have to move positions, or else push Ruiz elsewhere), I'm demanding 5-6 of your other top prospects. I'd think the Yankees could put together a better package, particularly if they include Volpe.
RE: RE: FWIW  
DanMetroMan : 5/25/2022 4:27 pm : link
In comment 15718281 KDavies said:
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In comment 15718271 DanMetroMan said:


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Keith Law ranks 5 Dodgers prospects in the top 76 and 3 in his top 53, he also had 3 in his "just missed" in his top 100 so if they wanted Soto they have the ammo to do so.



Thus my point in saying the Dodgers would have to empty out their system. If I'm the Nationals, and the headliner is Bobby Miller or a Cartaya (who will have to move positions, or else push Ruiz elsewhere), I'm demanding 5-6 of your other top prospects. I'd think the Yankees could put together a better package, particularly if they include Volpe.


Yankees aren't spending 800 million on Judge/Soto. The Dodgers can send 4 top 150 prospects and keep trucking. Their pipeline is incredible
but I do have a bias towards higher end prospects  
KDavies : 5/25/2022 4:27 pm : link
in trading a player like a Soto. Give me one Baty over two Mauricios. Give me one Volpe over two Pageses
I  
DanMetroMan : 5/25/2022 4:29 pm : link
wouldn't trade Juan Soto but if if I'm the Nats and I get back 4-5 of

of Cartaya, Miller, Pepiot, Bruns, Pages, Busch, Ramos, Doncon, Vargas and then maybe drop Strasburg on them, that's not a bad way to jumpstart a rebuild
RE: RE: RE: FWIW  
KDavies : 5/25/2022 4:30 pm : link
In comment 15718282 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 15718271 DanMetroMan said:


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Keith Law ranks 5 Dodgers prospects in the top 76 and 3 in his top 53, he also had 3 in his "just missed" in his top 100 so if they wanted Soto they have the ammo to do so.



Thus my point in saying the Dodgers would have to empty out their system. If I'm the Nationals, and the headliner is Bobby Miller or a Cartaya (who will have to move positions, or else push Ruiz elsewhere), I'm demanding 5-6 of your other top prospects. I'd think the Yankees could put together a better package, particularly if they include Volpe.



Yankees aren't spending 800 million on Judge/Soto. The Dodgers can send 4 top 150 prospects and keep trucking. Their pipeline is incredible


I wouldn't do that if I were the Nationals. But they haven't made the best decisions lately, either.
A  
DanMetroMan : 5/25/2022 4:32 pm : link
kid like Wilman Diaz just got 3 million to sign and was one of the top IFA's last season, the Dodgers are a true pipeline, one the Mets should only hope to emulate.
.  
DanMetroMan : 5/25/2022 4:35 pm : link
Potential Szapucki replacement Jordan Yamamoto is pitching right now for @BKCyclones
BRutal  
DanMetroMan : 5/25/2022 4:35 pm : link
"Buck Showalter came to get him before Evan Longoria even finished his home run trot."
RE: A  
KDavies : 5/25/2022 4:36 pm : link
In comment 15718286 DanMetroMan said:
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kid like Wilman Diaz just got 3 million to sign and was one of the top IFA's last season, the Dodgers are a true pipeline, one the Mets should only hope to emulate.


I don't disagree with you there. They are the best organization in baseball. I just don't see the high-end talent to land a Soto, even for a year and a half, without emptying the top of the farm. If we are talking a deadline deal next year, that's a different issue. If I'm the Nationals and can't sign Soto long-term, I'm looking at other teams before the Dodgers because I'd favor higher quality at the top.
Not  
DanMetroMan : 5/25/2022 4:39 pm : link
just because he was bombed but now you see why the Mets were in no rush to call up Szapucki. Velocity fluctuates, 2 pitches, stuff doesn't hold up later in games. I don't think he ever fully recovered from his TJ. Sad.
RE: .  
KDavies : 5/25/2022 4:39 pm : link
In comment 15718287 DanMetroMan said:
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Potential Szapucki replacement Jordan Yamamoto is pitching right now for @BKCyclones


They won't need a replacement at this time, will they? Wasn't this a spot start? Mets still have Cookie, Bassitt, Walker, Peterson, Williams. I would think they just slot Williams in there.
RE: RE: .  
DanMetroMan : 5/25/2022 4:40 pm : link
In comment 15718295 KDavies said:
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In comment 15718287 DanMetroMan said:


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Potential Szapucki replacement Jordan Yamamoto is pitching right now for @BKCyclones



They won't need a replacement at this time, will they? Wasn't this a spot start? Mets still have Cookie, Bassitt, Walker, Peterson, Williams. I would think they just slot Williams in there.


Yamamoto just began his rehab, he won't be up soon but Megill is estimated out another 10-14 days (that's their hope).
RE: RE: RE: .  
KDavies : 5/25/2022 4:47 pm : link
In comment 15718297 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 15718295 KDavies said:


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In comment 15718287 DanMetroMan said:


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Potential Szapucki replacement Jordan Yamamoto is pitching right now for @BKCyclones



They won't need a replacement at this time, will they? Wasn't this a spot start? Mets still have Cookie, Bassitt, Walker, Peterson, Williams. I would think they just slot Williams in there.



Yamamoto just began his rehab, he won't be up soon but Megill is estimated out another 10-14 days (that's their hope).


Yeah, I got that. I had thought Szapucki was called up for a spot start, just because the order was out of whack because of the doubleheader. Wouldn't Williams just step in as the 5th guy until Megill is back? Williams is pitching in relief today, so I'm also confused as to why they could just start Williams today, even if it was a short start. They couldn't have thought they were getting much out of Szapucki, could they?
I  
DanMetroMan : 5/25/2022 4:49 pm : link
too am confused why it wasn't just Williams today. As I've said... Szapucki over 7 starts only went 22 innings so what was the best realistic case? 4 inning? What am I not understanding? Williams will almost certainly get the next "Szapucki" start. They hope Megill can throw a bullpen this weekend and then a rehab start early-mid next week.
The silver lining  
pjcas18 : 5/25/2022 4:59 pm : link
here, if any, is that I won't be pushing for a Szapucki start again, lol.
.  
DanMetroMan : 5/25/2022 5:15 pm : link
Yamamoto's 2nd full inning not going as well as the first. Strikeout, HR to 2021 Rays 2nd round pick Kyle Manzardo, walk, strikeout of former @mets minor leaguer Matt Dyer (Rich Hill trade), lineout. 2.1 innings 1 hit 1 run 1 walk 4 k's #Mets
RE: I  
Eric on Li : 5/25/2022 5:20 pm : link
In comment 15718305 DanMetroMan said:
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too am confused why it wasn't just Williams today. As I've said... Szapucki over 7 starts only went 22 innings so what was the best realistic case? 4 inning? What am I not understanding? Williams will almost certainly get the next "Szapucki" start. They hope Megill can throw a bullpen this weekend and then a rehab start early-mid next week.


agree very weird decision. trying to grab an extra start from someone before inserting megill i guess, but i dont see what the rush was to get williams into the pen.
It’s just such an odd decision  
bhill410 : 5/25/2022 5:20 pm : link
As Dan said he has been mediocre and only at 3inning clips.
Mets pay cash for Daniel Johnson  
DanMetroMan : 5/25/2022 5:22 pm : link
Daniel Johnson actually appeared in the futures game not too long ago. I don't know that a ton separates Johnson/Lee/Plummer as potential 4th OF with AAAA player downsides
Buck hasnt had too many head-scratching moves,  
BigBlueNH : 5/25/2022 5:57 pm : link
but dont see why they just didn't start Williams, and limit his innings. They obviously thought he was ready to throw 50+ pitches. Szapucki hasn;t shown enough to be rewarded with a start.
The obvious reason is that with Megill out  
ZGiants98 : 5/25/2022 6:01 pm : link
a little longer, and Williams being asked to be our #5, he was on short rest. They are likely trying to stretch him out more with every start he makes, so starting him today early would have thrown a wrench in that.

But I agree, if they were considering pitching him today anyway, he should have just started the game.
Not a "SP" Szapucki fan...  
ZGiants98 : 5/25/2022 6:02 pm : link
But I still have hope he might turn into a decent middle reliever...
.  
ZGiants98 : 5/25/2022 6:03 pm : link
Because its fun....

Coming into today, Mets offense is now:

1st in fWAR
4th in wRC+
2nd in runs
Thank God I bought the cheap seats today  
Vanzetti : 5/25/2022 6:15 pm : link
Mets never really had a chance after Buck bizarrely left in Pucki for 9 runs

But still enjoyable. Such a beautiful park.Mets are missing three starters and I have a very difficult schedule on June
Off topic  
JayBinQueens : 5/25/2022 6:26 pm : link
but I'm surprised the MLB hasn't scheduled international series like the NFL does with London/Germany/Mexico City games etc.
I  
DanMetroMan : 5/25/2022 7:52 pm : link
went to Mets/Marlins in Puerto Rico (yes, I'm aware that's not international) lol
.  
DanMetroMan : 5/25/2022 8:15 pm : link
Francisco Alvarez 0-3, Baty (back in the lineup) 0-2 K, error. The "big 3" in Bing haven't had May's to remember...yeesh. Awful
RE: Not a  
spike : 5/25/2022 8:29 pm : link
In comment 15718347 ZGiants98 said:
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But I still have hope he might turn into a decent middle reliever...


So much for that experiment. How is Yamamoto doing?
RE: RE: Not a  
DanMetroMan : 5/25/2022 8:35 pm : link
In comment 15718425 spike said:
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In comment 15718347 ZGiants98 said:


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But I still have hope he might turn into a decent middle reliever...



So much for that experiment. How is Yamamoto doing?


Rehabbing

Yamamoto's 2nd full inning not going as well as the first. Strikeout, HR to 2021 Rays 2nd round pick Kyle Manzardo, walk, strikeout of former @mets minor leaguer Matt Dyer (Rich Hill trade), lineout. 2.1 innings 1 hit 1 run 1 walk 4 k's #Mets
RE: RE: RE: Not a  
spike : 5/25/2022 8:46 pm : link
In comment 15718430 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 15718425 spike said:


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In comment 15718347 ZGiants98 said:


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But I still have hope he might turn into a decent middle reliever...



So much for that experiment. How is Yamamoto doing?



Rehabbing

Yamamoto's 2nd full inning not going as well as the first. Strikeout, HR to 2021 Rays 2nd round pick Kyle Manzardo, walk, strikeout of former @mets minor leaguer Matt Dyer (Rich Hill trade), lineout. 2.1 innings 1 hit 1 run 1 walk 4 k's #Mets


Thanks We need him as an alternative to Williams, because Szapucki is certainly not IT!
Yamamoto wasnt exactly good last year  
Snablats : 5/25/2022 11:04 pm : link
in his 2 games: 10 hits and 2 walks in 6 2/3 innings

Connor Grey looks to be next in line, especially since he pitched today
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