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Thursday, May 26 OTA #6
Approx. 9:35 a.m. – Head Coach Brian Daboll Available
Approx. 9:45 a.m. – Defensive Coordinator Wink Martindale Available
10:15 a.m. – 12:15 p.m. – Practice
Defensive Assistants Available – After Practice
Players Available – After Practice
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@PLeonardNYDN
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No changes to team's roster based on what they've handed out for practice.
Noteworthy: today marks our first opportunity to interview new defensive coordinator Don "Wink" Martindale
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@Patricia_Traina
Thibodeaux will be in a red jersey again today per Daboll #giants
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Daboll on Julian Love—“Tough, durable, understands the playbook”
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@PLeonardNYDN
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Brian Daboll says Kayvon Thibodeaux will remain in a red jersey today. Doesn’t sound concerned about long term
@GiantInsider
Daboll—“Wink’s system is difficult to deal with”
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll on DJ: He wants to be good. He wants to be coached. He’s hard on himself.
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Daboll talked with Tom Coughlin in the building the other day—“That’s why I’m out here 10 minutes early”
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said he got to talk with Coughlin the other day. “Ton of respect for how he went about his business. A good resource to have.” Daboll said that inspired him to be 10 minutes early to his presser today.
Dan Duggan
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@DDuggan21
Tom Coughlin was in the Giants’ facility this week. Brian Daboll didn’t have a previous relationship with Coughlin but said the two-time Super Bowl champ will be a “good resource.” Daboll joked that he started his presser 10 minutes early in tribute.
@Dan_Salomone
Wink: “I really like where we are right now.” He’s excited to take this thing into minicamp.
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@rydunleavy
Asked about all the young CBs opposite Adoree Jackson, Wink Martindale says Aaron Robinson is the first name that comes to mind #Giants
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I asked Wink about the young corners opposite Adoree—“I like what I’m seeing, A-Rob has been impressive, the young guys have impressed me”
Yes. He was hurt in practice last week.
@Dan_Salomone
Wink said his philosophy is dictate to the offense, not the other way around. “At the end of the day, you want the quarterback on his back.”
Art Stapleton
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@art_stapleton
Giants DC Wink Martindale on biggest lesson he learned with all CB injuries in Baltimore last year: “Don’t go to Door Dash to find a backup corner.”
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Wink values players input—“I will ask on Sat, even Friday’s what they’re comfortable with”
Dan Salomone
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Wink said this game has been and will always be about the players. He likes to empower them to make plays. He’ll never drive home after a game saying he wished he would have played max coverage.
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Wink—“I love John Harbaugh and I had great times there, but this was a great opportunity too”
@Dan_Salomone
Wink’s expectations for Kayvon Thibodeaux? “Just to be Kayvon.” Wink said he is a very bright player with a lot of aspirations and goals.
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@NYPost_Schwartz
Giants defensive coordinator Wink Martindale on Kayvon Thibodeaux: “I’ve loved him since Day 1.”
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@JordanRaanan
Wink Martindale says that Kayvon Thibodeaux was his and OLB coach Drew Wilkins’ top-ranked edge rusher.
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@DDuggan21
Wink Martindale said his departure from Baltimore after 10 years was mutual. He said it's "no big secret" that he wants to be a head coach and he believes this opportunity with the Giants will advance toward that goal. He said he loves John Harbaugh.
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@TomRock_Newsday
Wink Martindale said after working with Brian Daboll for these past four months it feels like they have been working together for four years. "That's a good thing."
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@NYPost_Schwartz
Wink Martindale on his approach to defense: He wants the opposing offensive coordinator staying up nights trying to figure out how to deal with all the pressure the defense will send. He wants to dictate, not be dictated to on defense.
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@TomRock_Newsday
A few Wink-isms from today to get you revved up:
"I'd rather (offenses) have the headache."
"Pressure does break pipes."
"At the end of the day you want the QB on his back."
"I'm not one of those guys who is gonna drive home and say 'I wish I didn't play max coverage.'"
"I guaranteed they're gonna play as hard as they can."
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said they will work on some different situations at OTA No. 6, primarily first and second down. "Taking it day by day, making some strides as we go."
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said Kayvon will be in a red jersey today along with some other players. "I'd say this with the red jersey guys, they're all making progress."
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@RVacchianoSNY
"His system is difficult to prepare for as an offensive coach.”
— Giants coach Brian Daboll talks about what Wink Martindale brings to the table as a defensive coordinator. 👇
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said Julian Love is "dependable, smart, plays tough on tape." He's done a good job in his group being a leader. He's had good communication with Xavier McKinney. "We can use him in a lot of different roles" and he's ready for that challenge.
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Thibodeaux is riding the bike during warmups. Daboll not concerned about his injury.
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@DarrylSlater
Wink Martindale on perception Giants’ defense will struggle in 2022: ‘We’ll control the narrative’
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Dexter Lawrence wearing a red jersey, not sure if his issue.
@Dan_Salomone
He’ll never drive home after a game saying he wished he would have played max coverage.
Tom Rock
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@TomRock_Newsday
A few Wink-isms from today to get you revved up:
"I'm not one of those guys who is gonna drive home and say 'I wish I didn't play max coverage.'"
@Dan_Salomone
He’ll never drive home after a game saying he wished he would have played max coverage.
Tom Rock
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@TomRock_Newsday
A few Wink-isms from today to get you revved up:
"I'm not one of those guys who is gonna drive home and say 'I wish I didn't play max coverage.'"
He's saying he doesn't play max coverage.
@Dan_Salomone
Wink said this game has been and will always be about the players. He likes to empower them to make plays. He’ll never drive home after a game saying he wished he would have played max coverage.
So many coordinators these days think they are the stars of the show and try to be too cute. Let the ballers ball!
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@Patricia_Traina
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CB Darren Evans is the other guy on the bike during warmups.
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@JordanRaanan
Kayvon Thibodeaux working on the bike in a red jersey. He was throw to the ground and got twisted late in last Thursday’s OTAs. Seems to have been in red (injured player) jersey ever since. #giants
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@rydunleavy
Kenny Golladay is NOT in a red jersey #giants
"I'm not one of those guys who is gonna drive home and say 'I wish I didn't play max coverage.'"
This defense will be night and day different from last year.
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Dan Salomone
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He’ll never drive home after a game saying he wished he would have played max coverage.
Tom Rock
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@TomRock_Newsday
A few Wink-isms from today to get you revved up:
"I'm not one of those guys who is gonna drive home and say 'I wish I didn't play max coverage.'"
He's saying he doesn't play max coverage.
Thanks. The double-negative in Tom Rock's quote was confusing.
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@rydunleavy
Kenny Golladay is NOT in a red jersey #giants
There is no stopping in the red zone...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvYOTz5n6GI
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@PLeonardNYDN
Former NFL wideout Steve Smith (left, in blue) is here wearing #Giants gear. Told he’s NOT a member of coaching staff. Here filming something for a couple days. But he is helping out on field. Here with the DBs.
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@rydunleavy
#Giants QB/WR drills. You can see Kenny Golladay and Sterling Shepard talking to left and Kadarius Toney to right. None participating
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@Patricia_Traina
Giants QB working on hitting receivers just shy of the red boundary line. Some good placement of balls in this sequence. #giants
Seems like he's trying to make a point to everyone.
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@rydunleavy
Catch of the day: Wan’Dale Robinson. Deep TD in tight coverage as he goes to the ground
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Wan’Dale Robinson just made a great, twisting grab beating good coverage by Aaron Robinson for a TD from Daniel Jones.
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@Patricia_Traina
Just saw @nickgates77. My back was turned but he was kind enough to say hello. He was with Matt Peart. Oh and I don’t see any limp from either. 👍🏻
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Micheal Jacquet showing some nice tech breaking up a double move by Bachman.
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*Impressed on how Robinson made an adjustment to the ball. Real impressive.
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@rydunleavy
Catch of the day: Wan’Dale Robinson. Deep TD in tight coverage as he goes to the ground
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Wan’Dale Robinson just made a great, twisting grab beating good coverage by Aaron Robinson for a TD from Daniel Jones.
his body control and toughness adjusting to go up for the ball stood out in his highlights. looked a lot more santana than sinorice.
@MadelynBurke
Daniel Jones *full send* to rookie WR Wan’Dale Robinson who makes a great catch in the endzone
https://twitter.com/MadelynBurke/status/1529839962081869825 - ( New Window )
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@PLeonardNYDN
Rookie draft pick OL Josh Ezeudu seeing some work at left tackle today #Giants
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Rookie draft pick OL Josh Ezeudu seeing some work at left tackle today #Giants
seems destined to be the 6th OL this year.
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@PLeonardNYDN
Rookie draft pick OL Josh Ezeudu seeing some work at left tackle today #Giants
Seems they want to be prepared in case of Thomas ankle flare-up, have a swing plus Ezeudu dressed
@MadelynBurke
Daniel Jones *full send* to rookie WR Wan’Dale Robinson who makes a great catch in the endzone https://twitter.com/MadelynBurke/status/1529839962081869825 - ( New Window )
I like his reaction to that catch. It's like, "Yeah, got my job done" ... and doesn't need to be any more demonstrative than that.
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Joshua Ezeudu getting reps with the 1s at LT
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@Patricia_Traina
Kenny Golladay not in a red Jersey BTW.
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The more I see from Daniel Bellinger, the more I like. So smooth in route running and has soft hands. #giants
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Elerson Smith filling in for Thibodeaux with the 1s
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@Patricia_Traina
Elerson Smith just scooped up a loose ball that I think Carter Coughlin knocked loose. #giants
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Shane Lemieux with 1s again, appears it’s his job to lose this summer.
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Daniel hits Slayton on a go for six, appeared Adoree might have stumbled on coverage. Downfield aggressiveness, that’s what Daboll wants.
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@Patricia_Traina
Adoree Jackson with a Pick-6. Nice job jumping the route. #giants
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Daniel attempts to hit Richie James on an out, James falls down and Adoree’ takes it to the house.
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Tyrod Taylor throws a beautiful deep cross.
Pat Leonard
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Two plays of today’s team period:
- Darius Slayton beats Adoree Jackson down right sideline for TD
- Richie James (having a good practice otherwise) slips on a comeback route, Jackson INT, pick 6’s Jones#Giants
Patricia Traina
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Jamie Gillian is working on holding for FGAs and PATs with Casey Kreiter. #giants
I wonder what would happen if Thomas went on IR. Would they insert Ezeudu or Gono at LT or would they shift Neal over to the left side?
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They want to be prepared if Thomas tears his ACL. Same at any position.
I wonder what would happen if Thomas went on IR. Would they insert Ezeudu or Gono at LT or would they shift Neal over to the left side?
I would think they would move Neal over there.
So, are you suggesting not to pick players that fit a coordinators scheme? Or, Coordinators shouldn't be promoted?
Every year in football is a new year. Things change. Some years they change more than others.
Why worry about something that can't be controlled?
@GiantInsider
Sills bobbles a pass- goes up in air and McKinney picks it to the house. Two for Daniel, both not his fault.
Patricia Traina
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@Patricia_Traina
And another INT by the defense, this one by McKinney on a pass intended for Sills (which he looked like he misplayed.) #giants
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Whoa a hockey game breaks out with Korey Cunningham and Quincy Roche throwing haymakers, Roche loses helmet. Never see that in OTA’s.
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@PLeonardNYDN
Fist fight on 2nd team 11 on 11 after play between edge Quincy Roche & RT Korey Cunningham just now. Haymakers, Roche’s helmet comes off. Daboll sends them both to sideline. #Giants
Dan Duggan
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@DDuggan21
FIGHT! Looked like OL Korey Cunningham and LB Quincy Roche were in the middle of it. Punches were thrown. Maybe watching too many Rangers games.
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Wink's scheme, and Wink leaves in a year or two to be a HC, what then? Is there a Wink protégé in the pipeline?
So, are you suggesting not to pick players that fit a coordinators scheme? Or, Coordinators shouldn't be promoted?
Every year in football is a new year. Things change. Some years they change more than others.
Why worry about something that can't be controlled?
I'm only suggesting that most teams don't build a roster looking only 1 or 2 years down the road and Wink has stated he'd like to leave ASAP
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@JordanRaanan
Some highlights of OTA #6 after watching:
— Saquon all over formations
— Rookie TE Daniel Bellinger very involved
— Darius Slayton beats Adoree Jackson for long TD
— Jackson rebounds w/pick six (WR fell)
— Rare OTA fight. LT Korey Cunningham throws haymakers at Quincy Roche
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@Patricia_Traina
Very spirited practice today. A lot of energy.
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@DDuggan21
Brian Daboll and Steve Smith walking off the practice field. Smith is shooting some video. Team says he’s not actually joining the coaching staff
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They want to be prepared if Thomas tears his ACL. Same at any position.
I wonder what would happen if Thomas went on IR. Would they insert Ezeudu or Gono at LT or would they shift Neal over to the left side?
I assume AT is red-shirted, probably also need a warm body at LT in OTA.
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@PLeonardNYDN
Giants OLB coach Drew Wilkins was out at the Comedy Cellar one Saturday night, turned his phone in for the show. When he got it back, had tons of texts from Kayvon Thibodeaux seeking coaching/playbook tips. “It was a Saturday night. He was studying.” #Giants
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OLB coach Drew Wilkins: “If Wink were create an outside edge rusher in a lab, it would be Kayvon Thibodeaux.” #Giants
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Jerome Henderson is impressed with how the young secondary is competing
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Wilkins calls edge Jihad Ward a “Broad Street Bully.” From Philly, gonna beat up whoever’s across from him.
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Jerome Henderson says “it’s all about pressure “ with Wink Martindale
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Jerome Henderson told me that the “physicality “ stood out in Jarren Williams game at the end of last season. “He’s a heavy tackler” and one of the reasons why they moved him.
Pointed that out numerous times last year on how physical Williams is and how he came up and put a hat
@Dan_Salomone
Xavier McKinney said they’re excited playing in Wink’s system. “So much aggression, it’s just giving us energy.” They can play fast without worrying about mistakes. It gives them freedom.
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I asked Xavier McKinney if Wink system is to dictate—“Yes, and we love it”
Dan Salomone
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Xavier McKinney was asked what’s the next step for him this year. “Take it 10 times forward.”
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McKinney doesn’t mind being stuck on an island when everyone else blitzes. They just have the mindset to make plays.
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McKinney says he’s really studied film this off-season to get better
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@JordanRaanan
Adoree Jackson asked about losing CB James Bradberry.
“Yeah, it hurt.”
As for going to the division rival Eagles.
“Yeah, that sucks.”#Giants
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@rydunleavy
Adoree Jackson said he texted all the DBs when James Bradberry was released to explain the business aspect and tell them it’s all opportunity and reality is going to hit whether ready or not. That’s leadership. #giants
Dan Salomone
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Jackson said his pick in practice today was a perfect example of taking what they learned in the classroom and applying it to the field.
Paul Schwartz
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Aaron Robinson says he’s played plenty of outside cornerback. He will be asked to play on the perimeter this season now that James Bradberry is with the Eagles.
Dan Duggan
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OTA participation notes:
• Not spotted: OL Matt Gono, K Graham Gano.
• Red jerseys: WR Kadarius Toney, WR Sterling Shepard, WR Richie James, WR Collin Johnson, OL Andrew Thomas, OL Nick Gates, OL Matt Peart, OL Jamil Douglas, DL Dexter Lawrence, LB Kayvon Thibodeaux...
Red jerseys (cont'd): LB Blake Martinez, LB Cam Brown, LB TJ Brunson, CB Rodarius Williams, CB Darren Evans.
Toney, Shepard, Johnson, Gates, Peart, Thibodeaux, Brunson, Williams and Evans didn't participate at all. Kenny Golladay was out of a red jersey, but didn't participate.
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Depth chart notes from today:
• 1 OL: LT Ezeudu, LG Lemieux, C Feliciano, RG Glowinski, RT Neal.
• 2 OL: LT Cunningham, LG Garcia, C Bredeson, RG Revis, RT McKethan.
Ezeudu getting work at LT was definitely eye-catching. No real contact, but second-team OL had a rough day.
• 1D: DL Williams, DL Lawrence, OLB Thibodeaux, OLB Ojulari, ILB Martinez, ILB Crowder, CB Jackson, CB Robinson, CB Holmes, S McKinney, S Love
• 2D: DL Ju. Ellis, DL Moa, OLB Smith, OLB Ximines, ILB Coughlin, ILB McFadden, CB Gilbert, CB Jacquet, CB Flott, S Williams, S Belton
• 3D: DL Holmes, DL Davidson, OLB Fox, OLB Lalos, ILB Brown, ILB Hilliard, CB Canady, CB Evans, CB Dorsey, S Corker, S Black.
Recorded D lineups during install, so some players in red jerseys were replaced in live periods. DL Ellis, OLB Ward, ILB Beavers got work with the 1's.
Notable plays/observations from today:
• Wan'Dale Robinson terrific catch over Aaron Robinson on a deep ball from Daniel Jones in a drill.
• Jones hit Darius Slayton deep over Adoree' Jackson in a team period.
• Lot of reps for rookie TE Daniel Bellinger with the 1's.
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• Jones threw 2 INTs: Adoree' Jackson when Richie James fell on a curl and Xavier McKinney on a David Sills bobble.
• Tyrod Taylor was picked by Elerson Smith after Carter Coughlin jarred the ball loose from a RB on a dump off.
• Looked like Saquon was stripped after a catch
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• Lock of camp: Fans are going to want a QB controversy. Taylor throws a pretty ball.
• No laps for offsides, but Jon Feliciano did a few celebratory somersaults after the defense jumped.
• Last play was at the goal line. DB broke up Jones pass and offense did pushups.
*Smith wasn't the only former player sharing some words of wisdom at practice. Former Giants punter Jeff Feagles was on the sidelines speaking at length with punter Jamie Gillan and long snapper Casey Kreiter.
*The first team action came in the form of 7 on 7 drills, where Daniel Jones threw a perfect deep ball to rookie Wan'Dale Robinson, who made a great catch for a huge gain. Later on, Robinson made a nice play to get his feet in on a sideline pass. The Jones-to-Robinson connection continues to grow as the pair spend more time together on the field.
*Safety Jarren Williams recovered well on a deep pass and got his hands on the ball, forcing the incompletion.
*Tight end Daniel Bellinger continues to display tremendous hands. The rookie seems to catch everything thrown in his direction, connecting with Jones twice for first downs during 11 on 11s. He then caught a pass for a nice gain over the middle from Tyrod Taylor.
*Kayvon Thibodeaux was in a red jersey, but Coach Daboll did not seem concerned about it. "I'd say this with the red jersey guys, they are all making progress, taking it day-by-day, but they are all doing a good job of doing the rehab that they need to do, whatever is required of them… It's day-to-day. I'm talking about for everybody. I think the red jersey guys are making progress and hopefully we'll have everybody ready to go."
*Taylor threw a beautiful, deep sideline pass to wide receiver C.J. Board for a significant gain. On the next play, the veteran QB found David Sills on a crossing route for another big gain. Taylor and Board is another pair that has been noticeable throughout OTAs. The two linked up for a few receptions Thursday, including a couple long balls.
*Given the nature of OTAs with the lack of contact, it's tough to gain much insight about the run game. However, Saquon Barkley has shown some great explosiveness during these spring practices. On Thursday, he took a handoff and burst through the hole for a nice gain. Barkley then caught several passes from both Jones and Taylor, gaining a solid chunk of yards on each one.
*Darius Slayton made a beautiful double move, getting open behind the defender for a deep touchdown pass from Jones.
*Not long after Slayton's touchdown, Adoree' Jackson picked off a pass which he returned the other way for a score.
*Alex Bachman made a nice play, catching a deep sideline pass on a great throw from Taylor.
*After two practices with zero turnovers, the defense registered two interceptions on Thursday. The second one came on a bobbled ball at the goal line, which got deflected into the air before Xavier McKinney came down with it and returned it the other way for a pick-six.
*Matt Breida scored a touchdown on a pass near the goal line, catching a five-yard pass from Taylor over the middle for the score.
*Maurice Canady is one of the most recent additions to the team, and on Thursday he made a great play in coverage to break up a pass in the end zone.
*Similar to previous OTA sessions, Coach Daboll had the entire team line up behind the line of scrimmage for the final play of the day. With most of the defensive players making a lot of noise around the 20-yard line, Aaron Robinson broke up a pass on the goal line to close out practice.
OTA Report (5/26): Wan'Dale Robinson impresses - ( New Window )
*Daniel Jones threw two deep touchdowns, one to wide receiver Darius Slayton during a full-team period and another to rookie Wan'Dale Robinson in a drill pitting defensive backs against receivers.
"He wants to be good," Daboll said of Jones today. "He wants to be coached. I'd say he's tough on himself, which is good and bad for a quarterback, too, because you have to be able to move on to the next play rather quickly since you touch the ball on every play. Asks a lot of good questions. He's been out here on the field. He's improved since we've been here."
*Tyrod Taylor found running back Matt Breida for a short touchdown from the red zone. Taylor also broke a long run, zig-zagging his way to a likely score.
TAKEAWAYS
*Following the departure of Pro Bowler James Bradberry, Adoree' Jackson knew he would have to step up at cornerback. He has done so at OTAs, highlighted by a pick-six at practice today.
"What's crazy is before we actually talked something similar about that in the meeting room about the quarterback being under center and watching the moves and what may happen," Jackson said of the play. "Quick game, or if it's play-action, a deeper, developing route. What's crazy is before that play we actually was talking about that in the film room and we come out here actually seeing it. That attests to how do you get better. We always talk about taking the classroom to the field. So I saw it, listened to it, and then you actually see that route, but I listened to it."
*Safety Xavier McKinney also got on the board with an interception. The only defensive back in the NFL last season with at least 90 tackles, 10 passes defensed and five interceptions, McKinney was asked today what he considers his next step following the breakout year. "Take it 10 times forward," he said.
He will look to do so in Wink Martindale's aggressive system.
"I think we're all enjoying it," McKinney said of the new defense. "You know, just so much aggression. It's just giving us energy. We're able to go out there and play without worrying about making mistakes, so it's just giving us a lot of freedom to just go play, go attack and be the play-makers that we have on our defense. It's been fun and we've loved every bit of it."
TOP PLAYS
*Rookie tight end Daniel Bellinger, a fourth-round draft choice, had his most productive day yet and racked up a handful of catches. The San Diego State product is known for his sure hands, and he showed them today.
*Cornerback Maurice Canady broke up a pass in the end zone to prevent a score. Canady was part of a series of roster moves on May 18 that brought in four veterans on defense. Canady, 6-1 and 200 pounds, entered the NFL as a 2016 sixth-round draft choice by Baltimore, where he played his first three-plus seasons.
*Practice ended with a competition from the two-yard line, and second-year cornerback Aaron Robinson won it for the defense with a pass breakup.
Xavier McKinney, Adoree' Jackson highlight jam-packed OTA - ( New Window )
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Depth chart notes from today:• 1D: DL Williams, DL Lawrence, OLB Thibodeaux, OLB Ojulari, ILB Martinez, ILB Crowder, CB Jackson, CB Robinson, CB Holmes, S McKinney, S Love
• 2D: DL Ju. Ellis, DL Moa, OLB Smith, OLB Ximines, ILB Coughlin, ILB McFadden, CB Gilbert, CB Jacquet, CB Flott, S Williams, S Belton
• 3D: DL Holmes, DL Davidson, OLB Fox, OLB Lalos, ILB Brown, ILB Hilliard, CB Canady, CB Evans, CB Dorsey, S Corker, S Black.
Recorded D lineups during install, so some players in red jerseys were replaced in live periods. DL Ellis, OLB Ward, ILB Beavers got work with the 1's.
Don't grasp the Jihad Ward qualifier here. He's been getting some ink, a Wink link: why not listed straight out with 1s or 2s?
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Wink's scheme, and Wink leaves in a year or two to be a HC, what then? Is there a Wink protégé in the pipeline?
So, are you suggesting not to pick players that fit a coordinators scheme? Or, Coordinators shouldn't be promoted?
Every year in football is a new year. Things change. Some years they change more than others.
Why worry about something that can't be controlled?
Why indeed. If that's the case, then, when Schoen was hired, why did he make a SPEIFIC POINT about NOT selecting players that only fit a particular coaches scheme, because what happens when they leave in a year or two? I mean, that IS exactly what SCCHOEN said, and why it's a bad idea, in HIS view. And then goes out and does the opposite. So if the retort is, why worry about it, then why was Schoen worried about exactly that, specifically, and why mention it so soon after he was hired?
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In comment 15718699 Bill in UT said:
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Wink's scheme, and Wink leaves in a year or two to be a HC, what then? Is there a Wink protégé in the pipeline?
So, are you suggesting not to pick players that fit a coordinators scheme? Or, Coordinators shouldn't be promoted?
Every year in football is a new year. Things change. Some years they change more than others.
Why worry about something that can't be controlled?
Why indeed. If that's the case, then, when Schoen was hired, why did he make a SPEIFIC POINT about NOT selecting players that only fit a particular coaches scheme, because what happens when they leave in a year or two? I mean, that IS exactly what SCCHOEN said, and why it's a bad idea, in HIS view. And then goes out and does the opposite. So if the retort is, why worry about it, then why was Schoen worried about exactly that, specifically, and why mention it so soon after he was hired?
Doesn't whether or not a player 'fits' lie in the eye of the coaching staff? It's not like every player out there comes with a name tag that tells you "man corner" "Zone press" "not a scheme fit". What fans think, what a writer posts on twitter, and what Wink thinks of a player are three unique things.
Also this.
I think fans mistake the job of a head coach. Head Coaches should be coaching the junior coaches, and enabling their coordinators to excel. We tend to think of hoad coaches as making players, but it's just as much about leading assistants, developing coaches, and *identifying who can coach or not*.
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being able to rebuild a quality staff is one of the central responsibilities of a head coach
Also this.
I think fans mistake the job of a head coach. Head Coaches should be coaching the junior coaches, and enabling their coordinators to excel. We tend to think of hoad coaches as making players, but it's just as much about leading assistants, developing coaches, and *identifying who can coach or not*.
100%. look at all the coaches McVay has developed. Defense is obviously not his area of expertise but he was smart enough to lean on Wade Phillips' experience when he was just starting out, then perhaps too smart hiring Brandon Staley because he was gone a year later as a HC, but then replaced him with Raheem Morris and won a SB.
Hiring quality assistants is right up there with the most important skills of a head coach. Shurmur ran a decent offense so had he hired a quality DC or vice versa with Judge either may still be here even with all their other flaws.