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Thursday's NYG OTA #6 Practice/Media Tweets

Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/26/2022 6:57 am


Thursday, May 26 OTA #6

Approx. 9:35 a.m. – Head Coach Brian Daboll Available

Approx. 9:45 a.m. – Defensive Coordinator Wink Martindale Available

10:15 a.m. – 12:15 p.m. – Practice

Defensive Assistants Available – After Practice

Players Available – After Practice

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RE: RE: If we pick all our players on defense based on  
Red Right Hand : 5/26/2022 8:59 pm : link
In comment 15718790 ZogZerg said:
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In comment 15718699 Bill in UT said:


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Wink's scheme, and Wink leaves in a year or two to be a HC, what then? Is there a Wink protégé in the pipeline?



So, are you suggesting not to pick players that fit a coordinators scheme? Or, Coordinators shouldn't be promoted?

Every year in football is a new year. Things change. Some years they change more than others.

Why worry about something that can't be controlled?


Why indeed. If that's the case, then, when Schoen was hired, why did he make a SPEIFIC POINT about NOT selecting players that only fit a particular coaches scheme, because what happens when they leave in a year or two? I mean, that IS exactly what SCCHOEN said, and why it's a bad idea, in HIS view. And then goes out and does the opposite. So if the retort is, why worry about it, then why was Schoen worried about exactly that, specifically, and why mention it so soon after he was hired?
Bellinger  
Rod in St Cloud : 5/26/2022 11:07 pm : link
It's way too early of course, but am I sensing this guy might end up being our best TE since Bavaro. A guy who can block and catch and is hard to tackle. If he starts carrying guys down the field after a catch I'm going to start getting really excited.
RE: RE: RE: If we pick all our players on defense based on  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/27/2022 11:58 am : link
In comment 15719266 Red Right Hand said:
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In comment 15718790 ZogZerg said:


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In comment 15718699 Bill in UT said:


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Wink's scheme, and Wink leaves in a year or two to be a HC, what then? Is there a Wink protégé in the pipeline?



So, are you suggesting not to pick players that fit a coordinators scheme? Or, Coordinators shouldn't be promoted?

Every year in football is a new year. Things change. Some years they change more than others.

Why worry about something that can't be controlled?



Why indeed. If that's the case, then, when Schoen was hired, why did he make a SPEIFIC POINT about NOT selecting players that only fit a particular coaches scheme, because what happens when they leave in a year or two? I mean, that IS exactly what SCCHOEN said, and why it's a bad idea, in HIS view. And then goes out and does the opposite. So if the retort is, why worry about it, then why was Schoen worried about exactly that, specifically, and why mention it so soon after he was hired?


Doesn't whether or not a player 'fits' lie in the eye of the coaching staff? It's not like every player out there comes with a name tag that tells you "man corner" "Zone press" "not a scheme fit". What fans think, what a writer posts on twitter, and what Wink thinks of a player are three unique things.
if the d plays well enough Wink gets a head job that's a good problem  
Eric on Li : 5/27/2022 12:03 pm : link
being able to rebuild a quality staff is one of the central responsibilities of a head coach now and why an offensive background like daboll's is such a big selling point.
RE: if the d plays well enough Wink gets a head job that's a good problem  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/27/2022 12:07 pm : link
In comment 15719636 Eric on Li said:
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being able to rebuild a quality staff is one of the central responsibilities of a head coach


Also this.

I think fans mistake the job of a head coach. Head Coaches should be coaching the junior coaches, and enabling their coordinators to excel. We tend to think of hoad coaches as making players, but it's just as much about leading assistants, developing coaches, and *identifying who can coach or not*.
RE: RE: if the d plays well enough Wink gets a head job that's a good problem  
Eric on Li : 5/27/2022 12:15 pm : link
In comment 15719640 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 15719636 Eric on Li said:


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being able to rebuild a quality staff is one of the central responsibilities of a head coach



Also this.

I think fans mistake the job of a head coach. Head Coaches should be coaching the junior coaches, and enabling their coordinators to excel. We tend to think of hoad coaches as making players, but it's just as much about leading assistants, developing coaches, and *identifying who can coach or not*.


100%. look at all the coaches McVay has developed. Defense is obviously not his area of expertise but he was smart enough to lean on Wade Phillips' experience when he was just starting out, then perhaps too smart hiring Brandon Staley because he was gone a year later as a HC, but then replaced him with Raheem Morris and won a SB.

Hiring quality assistants is right up there with the most important skills of a head coach. Shurmur ran a decent offense so had he hired a quality DC or vice versa with Judge either may still be here even with all their other flaws.
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