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NFT: Advice from men's wristwatch fans

Bold Ruler : Mod : 5/27/2022 9:13 am
Never been a watch guy. But my career has me meeting one on one quite often with high net worth guys and I honestly feel having at least moderately decent watch would be a good thing.

I don't have any interest in a smart watch. I'm looking for analog and something that won't break the bank. Seems at a first glance, even used watches are exorbitantly expensive but what do I know.

What would you recommend as an entry level watch? I love the Omega brand but don't know many others.

Thoughts?
I am a big fan of TAG Heuer. Got one when I was younger  
NYGgolfer : 5/27/2022 9:24 am : link
and have bought a couple more over the years. All of them still in great working condition and match up well whether its work or play.
Tissot and TAG Heuer  
nygfaninorlando : 5/27/2022 9:32 am : link
Are my go to watches for business meetings. Plenty of styles to choose from and ability to change out bands to dress them up or down for different meetings/activities.
Rolex  
Josh in the City : 5/27/2022 9:37 am : link
Submariner
I'm not a watch  
MSanchez : 5/27/2022 9:38 am : link
Or jewelry guy and am just regular like the great Amani Toomer but I bought this watch a year ago as a gift to myself after surviving the miserable year that was 2020. It didn't break the bank and it looks plenty sharp so I'll happily recommend it.
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Not sure the price  
pjcas18 : 5/27/2022 9:46 am : link
but I hear the rochefoucauld is the thinnest, water resistant watch in the world. Singularly unique, sculptured in design, hand crafted in Switzerland and water resistant to three atmospheres. It is the sports watch of the '80's. It tells time simultaneously in Monte Carlo, Beverly Hills, London, Paris, Rome and Gstaad.

Not sure what it's worth in Philadelphia though. Maybe someone else knows.
Look at RGM watches  
Jerz44 : 5/27/2022 9:48 am : link
Will be impressive to people who know watches.

They’re also beautiful and made in house in PA.
All depends on how much you want to spend....  
dannysection 313 : 5/27/2022 9:49 am : link
There are a ton of YouTube on watches...quite the rabbit hole to go down!

The watch market/industry is quite crazy.....

If you are looking high end, forget about a Rolex, they are not available, except on the "grey" market for way more than the list prices...way more.

Tudor are also high end, but not as expensive as a Rolex. I bought a Black Bay 58 a few months back and love it.

Someone mentioned Omega...also high end, but they are as classic and respected as any other brand and they are available.

There are so many options, all depends on how much you want to spend!
Rolex, Tag, and Breitling  
GFiLA : 5/27/2022 9:51 am : link
are a few of the most common mens watches but there are many brands that are as good if not better. Someone into watches would appreciate a IWC, Zenith or Philippe on a wrist. Hamilton make s a good starter watch that won’t break the bank.
My suggestion is to figure out your budget and then to a site like jomashop.com to find a style that you like. Mechanical watches IMO are the best. Be careful since watches are really the only item a man can have you might find a few watches. A dive watch is great for casual but not in a more formal situation.
Hamilton  
Guyton/Jackson : 5/27/2022 9:52 am : link
Fan of the Hamilton watches…..it was the watch on every doughboy who was sent to Europe in WWI - kinda cool.
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christian : 5/27/2022 9:56 am : link
It really depends on your price range.

The Omega De Ville Prestige is a rock solid watch and is sub 4K.

Good luck getting your hands on one right now, but the newest model Rolex Oyster Perpetual is a fantastic watch with the time keeping capabilities of much, much more expensive watch.
Tag Heuer  
JonC : 5/27/2022 9:57 am : link
always been my fave, and Breitling.
RE: Not sure the price  
JonC : 5/27/2022 9:58 am : link
In comment 15719522 pjcas18 said:
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but I hear the rochefoucauld is the thinnest, water resistant watch in the world. Singularly unique, sculptured in design, hand crafted in Switzerland and water resistant to three atmospheres. It is the sports watch of the '80's. It tells time simultaneously in Monte Carlo, Beverly Hills, London, Paris, Rome and Gstaad.

Not sure what it's worth in Philadelphia though. Maybe someone else knows.


Hello, Louis!
You sort of got to be more specific price wise  
BillT : 5/27/2022 9:59 am : link
Watches go from $20 to hundreds of thousands. How much do you want to spend.
Check out Invicta.  
k2tampa : 5/27/2022 10:26 am : link
Great watches with style at good prices. And you can always find them discounted at online sites. I have three and constantly get comments on them.
This  
NJBlueTuna : 5/27/2022 10:27 am : link
https://watchilove.com/hands-on-review-frederique-constant-classic-worldtimer-manufacture

It is a breathtaking watch in looks quality and functionality. Will cost around 4k and competes against watches 2x in cost.

RE: This  
BillT : 5/27/2022 10:39 am : link
In comment 15719553 NJBlueTuna said:
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https://watchilove.com/hands-on-review-frederique-constant-classic-worldtimer-manufacture

It is a breathtaking watch in looks quality and functionality. Will cost around 4k and competes against watches 2x in cost.

This is a perfect example of why the OP makes no sense. For me, the idea of spending 4k on a watch is totally unimaginable (and I could probably afford it.). This watch is probably great deal and worth twice that. And I get why for many this is a perfectly reasonable purchase. But what good is to to ask about watches without qualifying a general price range. This watch could be half of what you want to spend or 10x what you’re willing to spend. And all are reasonable takes.
I'm a watch guy  
Ross : 5/27/2022 10:41 am : link
I own Rolex, Tag, Omega and IWC. Best bang for the buck is Shinola. Won't break or even put a dent in the bank and they have really nice ones
Thanks guys. Really appreciate it.  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 5/27/2022 12:58 pm : link
Minus BillT.
Don't spend over $100 or less than $1000  
sb from NYT Forum : 5/27/2022 1:07 pm : link
...That's my rule of thumb. Almost all watches that cost less than $1000 have minimal resale value and are no better than sub-$100 watches.

I'm sure many will argue, which is fine, but that's what I've found.
RE: Don't spend over $100 or less than $1000  
pjcas18 : 5/27/2022 1:32 pm : link
In comment 15719672 sb from NYT Forum said:
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...That's my rule of thumb. Almost all watches that cost less than $1000 have minimal resale value and are no better than sub-$100 watches.

I'm sure many will argue, which is fine, but that's what I've found.



I'm not a math expert and I did drink heavily last night, but I don't think this is possible.

"Don't spend over $100 or less than $1000"

Citizen Eco-drive.....  
BillKo : 5/27/2022 1:37 pm : link
...is my fav, own two.
Wife got me the Eli unstopable Citizen Eco  
Bubba : 5/27/2022 1:44 pm : link
for christmas a few years back. Runs great looks good.
RE: RE: Don't spend over $100 or less than $1000  
sb from NYT Forum : 5/27/2022 1:52 pm : link
In comment 15719689 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 15719672 sb from NYT Forum said:


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...That's my rule of thumb. Almost all watches that cost less than $1000 have minimal resale value and are no better than sub-$100 watches.

I'm sure many will argue, which is fine, but that's what I've found.




I'm not a math expert and I did drink heavily last night, but I don't think this is possible.

"Don't spend over $100 or less than $1000"


LoL it's a rule of thumb, not an mathematics axiom! You know what I meant!
RE: Thanks guys. Really appreciate it.  
BillT : 5/27/2022 2:46 pm : link
In comment 15719666 Bold Ruler said:
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Minus BillT.

Anytime.
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christian : 5/27/2022 2:56 pm : link
A few watches to take into consideration in addition to the ones I posted above.

I find Tag Heuer watches, even the Carrera line, to be a bit too sporty for a dress watch.

I think a 41MM +/-, stainless bracelet with a simple face is the best dress watch.

King Seiko SPB279

Grand Seiko SBGH27

Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra
I wear the Eli Citizen as well  
lono801 : 5/27/2022 3:15 pm : link
I bought it back in early 2000….only issue I have ever had was when I cracked the jewel. My fault

Been a great everyday watch… even looks good if you have to wear a blazer
It’s called  
lono801 : 5/27/2022 3:19 pm : link
Nighthawk
I'm a fan of Omega  
Bill in Del : 5/27/2022 3:57 pm : link
probably because I inherited my dad's 1950's Seamaster. I also have a 90's Seamaster and a Speedmaster automatic though I hardly wear that one.

But my favorite is my Aqua Terra, just a nice clean looking everyday watch without the extras you don't need. I had a Planet Ocean and sold it realizing I didn't care for or need a divers watch and bought the Aqua Terra.

If possible, when you buy a watch try to buy with a bracelet instead of a strap. A new watch on a strap is not that much less than on a bracelet. But to try to buy that bracelet later will cost a hell of allot more than a good quality strap.
What's the budget you're working with?  
RomanWH : 5/27/2022 4:03 pm : link
That would be the best starting point. Once you figure that out, then we can start talking brands and price points.

On the budget end, there's Orient. Their Bambino line of dress watches are like the gateway drug of mechanical watches. Bunch of styles and colors to suit a bunch of different tastes. Price range: $115-$200.

Go a step up and you have Seiko. They are a quality Japanese manufacturer and have deep array of watches that dwarfs damn near every other brand. One model that can pull off a "looks rich but doesn't break the bank" is a quartz dress watch in the style of a Cartier Tank, the Seiko SWR052. Btw, the Cartier Tank is what Hans Gruber wore in Die Hard. Price on Amazon? About $160.

Another solid Seiko model is their Presage model. This is dressy but with a touch of uniqueness with their textured dials. Do a search on Amazon and you'll see what I mean. A bunch of different styles and colors but won't break the bank. $300-$450 depending on model.

After that, I highly recommend looking at Tissot. Swiss-made and very good quality for the price point, you can do a lot worse than walking around with one of their watches. They have some gaudy looking sports models but I'm a fan of their dress options. Namely the PRX(kind of a 70s throwback style), the Gentleman, and my personal favorite... the Visodate. Prices vary but definitely shop around. Jomashop is a good site for watches. Range typically around $550-$650ish for those aforementioned pieces with models occasionally going on sale here or there.

Hamilton is an awesome watch company that originally started right here in the US, out of Pennsylvania. They have since moved their operations overseas but still have very good quality. I'm a fan of their Intra-Matic series of dress watches, particularly the panda chrono. Prices are like $1500-2200.

For high-end stuff, I love Omega and their line of Seamaster Aqua Terra watches. They are truly a luxury watch brand. Personally, I could never wrap my mind around the idea of walking around with a $5000 watch on my wrist, but that's just me.

FWIW, I do enjoy Citizen watches and their Eco-Drive stuff makes it so you don't need a watch winder especially if you wear your timepiece every day. Quality is a little hit or miss though so try to look up some reviews before pulling the trigger.

I've left out a ton of solid brands but this is a good place to start. Hope that helps. Cheers.
A lot of good suggestions in this thread.  
Servo 2.0 : 5/27/2022 4:47 pm : link
Another bonus with Omega, especially for a daily wear watch, is that they are the only company that has commercialized the co-axial escapement. This reduces friction and wear in the watch’s regulation system that significantly extends service intervals. Almost all current Omega models are now co-axial.

I saw Seiko and Grand Seiko mentioned above. These are also great choices. Grand Seiko’s Spring Drive movements would be good for someone looking for quartz accuracy in an otherwise mechanical watch. They are truly unique. GS has Spring Drive watches ranging from dress formal to dive watches.

Count me as another vote for the Tudor Black Bay line.

If you’re looking for something more minimalist, check out NOMOS Glashuette. They are a good value and there is something really cool about wearing a watch from a small German village whose entire economy consists of watchmaking.
If you are trying to impress a customer, spend the money  
Marty in Albany : 5/27/2022 6:21 pm : link
on a good suit that is well tailored, shirt, tie shoes and socks.

Impress them with the suit and they'll think your thirty dollar watch cost three thousand. Hell if your wearing a suit you're also wearing long sleeves. Unless you're wearing a big monster watch they won't even see it.
Oh, and I forgot to mention dazzling cufflinks  
Marty in Albany : 5/27/2022 6:26 pm : link
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Some Good Advice Here  
HMunster : 5/27/2022 6:35 pm : link
There are plenty of options in all price ranges. Not wanting to break the bank is subjective and differs person to person.

My recommendation - decide what kind of watch style suits you? Dive watch? Rolex Submariner, Omega Planet Ocean / Seamaster, Tudor Blackbay, are classic examples. Dress watch? Classic three hander? Complication (small seconds, chronograph, moonphase)?
Sport watch?

Once you've come to a style decision, determine your budget and then you'll get a lot more targeted responses.

Personally, I have an Omega Speedmaster Professional and a Breitling SuperOcean Heritage that I alternate as my daily wearers, and an IWC Portugieser Chronograph as my dress watch. One is a sport chronograph, the other a dive watch and the last is a dress watch. Look them up - maybe it'll help in your journey.
Been a longtime since I've thought about this  
Jim in Forest Hills : 5/27/2022 7:02 pm : link
but when I was into watches, most entry level watches had movements from ETA so its not like you were getting something special. Entry level being the $3-5k range. You had to go north of that to get custom movements which of course are less reliable.

Whoever recommended Orient is a good place to start. Looks upscale and can pass as much more "upscale" or whatever you want to call it.

I think if you are staying in the entry range, just pick the design you like, movement will likely be from one of the big ones (which is good). Jaeger, Ulysses Nardin, Glashutte will all have something there. Breguet was a personal favorite.
No need to  
kcgiants : 5/27/2022 8:33 pm : link
impress. Take it from someone who owns Rolexes, Tags, Longines and other Italian Swiss Brands. Get yourself an Apple watch. It'll show that you are the new generation where health and being connected at all times is important.
RE: No need to  
Spider43 : 5/27/2022 10:25 pm : link
In comment 15719979 kcgiants said:
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impress. Take it from someone who owns Rolexes, Tags, Longines and other Italian Swiss Brands. Get yourself an Apple watch. It'll show that you are the new generation where health and being connected at all times is important.


Agreed. But I can understand the OP. And I love watches myself, having inherited a couple of Omegas, a Patek, a Breitling, and a Universal from relatives. If you really want to impress your high net worth clients, you'll have to go with Rolex. 'Been trying to get a Submariner myself for years, but I just gave up and went with an Apple Watch, and won't look back for several more years. Until that bug gets me again. You can get into the field with esoteric selections like others have mentioned here (though no one has mentioned Mille and Audemars yet), but if you don't love watches, you'll go mad. To make it easy on yourself, just go with Rolex, you can't go wrong. It's universally loved and recognized, and likely may increase in value too (especially if you get gold models, and complications).
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Servo 2.0 : 5/27/2022 11:29 pm : link
In comment 15720049 Spider43 said:
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In comment 15719979 kcgiants said:


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impress. Take it from someone who owns Rolexes, Tags, Longines and other Italian Swiss Brands. Get yourself an Apple watch. It'll show that you are the new generation where health and being connected at all times is important.



Agreed. But I can understand the OP. And I love watches myself, having inherited a couple of Omegas, a Patek, a Breitling, and a Universal from relatives. If you really want to impress your high net worth clients, you'll have to go with Rolex. 'Been trying to get a Submariner myself for years, but I just gave up and went with an Apple Watch, and won't look back for several more years. Until that bug gets me again. You can get into the field with esoteric selections like others have mentioned here (though no one has mentioned Mille and Audemars yet), but if you don't love watches, you'll go mad. To make it easy on yourself, just go with Rolex, you can't go wrong. It's universally loved and recognized, and likely may increase in value too (especially if you get gold models, and complications).


I imagine Audemars and the like didn’t come up because of the OP’s desire not to break the bank, not to mention that a Royal Oak is every bit the unobtainium that Rolex sports models have become. If we’re getting into that league, nobody is beating A. Lange & Sohne these days. You get much more watchmaking for your money from Lange, and most of their watches are actually available.

Part of the appeal for me is having a tiny, incredibly precise (and admittedly anachronistic) mechanical device on my wrist. An Apple Watch does not give the same satisfaction (and for me, constant connectedness is overrated).

RE: Citizen Eco-drive.....  
Kev in Cali : 5/27/2022 11:35 pm : link
In comment 15719694 BillKo said:
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...is my fav, own two.


I bought a Citizen Eco-drive (or something like that) about 25 years ago. Nothing fancy, green canvas band (since I was MIL then), stainless steel frame, solar, glow in the dark indicators and numeralls.

The sucker still keeps running along.....I had the band replaced once. I can't believe it still works. I recommend the brand (It was cheap too - $90 back then).
^^^^^  
Kev in Cali : 5/27/2022 11:49 pm : link
This is the model I bought back then....surprised they haven't changed it at all.....can't speak for todays build quality.

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Another vote for Eco-Drive and they have a lot  
JCin332 : 5/29/2022 4:13 pm : link
of options as far as prices and styles...
RE: Some Good Advice Here  
Servo 2.0 : 5/29/2022 8:08 pm : link
In comment 15719900 HMunster said:
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Personally, I have an Omega Speedmaster Professional and a Breitling SuperOcean Heritage that I alternate as my daily wearers, and an IWC Portugieser Chronograph as my dress watch. One is a sport chronograph, the other a dive watch and the last is a dress watch. Look them up - maybe it'll help in your journey.


The Speedmaster Professional is such a perfect, timeless (no pun intended) design that I wouldn’t even hesitate to wear it with business attire. For a 42mm watch, it doesn’t feel large on the wrist. I’ve heard the redesigned bracelet on the current model is a pleasure to wear, too. Plus, it is fun to wear a piece of history.
 
christian : 5/29/2022 10:54 pm : link
I bit the bullet on a 38MM Aqua Terra, and I find it to be the best of both worlds. Simple enough to wear somewhere nice, and substantial enough to not look too delicate every day.
BR… look at the Tissot watches  
Rick in Dallas : 5/30/2022 2:30 am : link
They won’t break the bank and have several classic looking styles.
RE: RE: Some Good Advice Here  
HMunster : 5/30/2022 9:21 am : link
In comment 15721038 Servo 2.0 said:
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In comment 15719900 HMunster said:


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Personally, I have an Omega Speedmaster Professional and a Breitling SuperOcean Heritage that I alternate as my daily wearers, and an IWC Portugieser Chronograph as my dress watch. One is a sport chronograph, the other a dive watch and the last is a dress watch. Look them up - maybe it'll help in your journey.



The Speedmaster Professional is such a perfect, timeless (no pun intended) design that I wouldn’t even hesitate to wear it with business attire. For a 42mm watch, it doesn’t feel large on the wrist. I’ve heard the redesigned bracelet on the current model is a pleasure to wear, too. Plus, it is fun to wear a piece of history.

Which is why I bought it. Except for the new bracelet. Mine is 10 years old. I specifically bought it with the hesalite on the front (not sapphire) and no open caseback in the back as that's the closest to the original and the historical significance of the Apollo 13 mission. Love the watch, and yes, I do wear it to the office.
I bought a genuine Bolex Oster in the Village once.  
Klaatu : 5/30/2022 9:29 am : link
Cost me eight bucks.
RE: I bought a genuine Bolex Oster in the Village once.  
Jim in Forest Hills : 5/30/2022 10:05 am : link
In comment 15721158 Klaatu said:
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Cost me eight bucks.


I know he is poking fun but buying a knockoff isn't a terrible idea. High quality knockoffs cannot be distinguished unless closely examined and many will have good movements in them. These aren't $8 though more like a few hundred. Do you have any biz associates in HK? They can hook you up for 1/10th the cost of the real thing.
Are people really impressed by a watch?  
pjcas18 : 5/30/2022 10:11 am : link
so much you'd want to wear a knock-off?

I've been in the business world for 25+ years as both a buyer and a seller and I never once thought "that guy has a watch on that makes me want to do business with him"

RE: Are people really impressed by a watch?  
HMunster : 5/30/2022 11:43 am : link
In comment 15721174 pjcas18 said:
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so much you'd want to wear a knock-off?

I've been in the business world for 25+ years as both a buyer and a seller and I never once thought "that guy has a watch on that makes me want to do business with him"

The big investment banks, particularly in the wealth management divisions have dress guidelines. Many of them include wearing a wristwatch of quality. I don't know for certain, but I could see the same thing for attorneys in certain fields. For anyone in those lines of work, the watch is part of the uniform, no different than a well-tailored suit and good quality shoes. In one of my earlier jobs in finance I know people who were told by their managers to stop getting suits from JC Penney and Men's Wearhouse and to take a portion of their bonus into Brooks Brothers and buy decent suits.

Personally, I think it's dumb. I wear my watches because I love my watches. I don't give a crap what anyone else thinks about them. And I certainly don't wear them to impress people. But in certain industries, it's expected.
Although  
Servo 2.0 : 5/30/2022 1:51 pm : link
Bold Ruler’s original post was in the context of work, I think enthusiasts just enjoy the opportunity to share ideas on something we are passionate. Watchmaking is an art with rich history and tradition.

Few things horrify enthusiasts like counterfeits. Among other things, there is a strong chance that when you buy a counterfeit watch, or anything else, the money is ultimately going to horrible things like human trafficking.
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