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Duggan - Gates still recovering from gruesome leg injury

US1 Giants : 5/27/2022 7:06 pm
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Eight months later, Gates is still battling through a rehab process that has no defined timeline for when — or if — he’ll play again.

“I don’t even know,” Gates said when asked recently when he could return. “It’s so hard to tell. It’s slow. I don’t know if I’ll definitely be able to play again, but that’s my goal. I want to.”



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He spent two weeks in the krankenhaus.  
Lurts : 5/27/2022 7:47 pm : link
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Is German only a thing on  
big_blue : 5/27/2022 11:14 pm : link
Bbi?
RE: Is German only a thing on  
RobCrossRiver56 : 5/28/2022 7:43 am : link
In comment 15720081 big_blue said:
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Bbi?



Jawohl
RE: Is German only a thing on  
Blueworm : 5/28/2022 7:43 am : link
In comment 15720081 big_blue said:
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Bbi?


Only when things get mentioned zwei times.
Im an Orthopedic surgeon…  
Jerz44 : 5/28/2022 7:49 am : link
I have no inside info on Gates but from what I’ve gathered via online reports he had a tibial fracture and compartment syndrome (when the pressure builds up really high in the muscle compartment, causing damage.). He had a metal rod placed in his bone to hold it straight and then a muscle release. The muscle release part then needed a skin graft.

All of this is sort of routine in trauma surgeries, despite sounding gruesome.

If bone is aligned correctly and heals, there really shouldn’t be major long term ramification. Typically by 6 months after a tibial shaft fracture, the bones well healed. What’s curious is that they’re seemingly unsure if he’s coming back or not. Again not knowing the specifics, I’d expect them to know by now I wonder if the compartment syndrome caused actual muscle damage and that’s what he’s now recovering against.

For a normal person, you’d be pretty happy walking without a limp. For a high level athlete thou, maybe a 5% drop in functionality could derail a career.

It’s concerning. (Full disclosure, I said Alex Smith would never play again and we saw how that went so I definitely could be wrong. Alex Smith had a much worse injury too.)
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section125 : 5/28/2022 7:50 am : link
In comment 15720155 Blueworm said:
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In comment 15720081 big_blue said:


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Bbi?



Only when things get mentioned zwei times.


Was ist denn los?
RE: Im an Orthopedic surgeon…  
KingBlue : 5/28/2022 8:13 am : link
In comment 15720161 Jerz44 said:
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I have no inside info on Gates but from what I’ve gathered via online reports he had a tibial fracture and compartment syndrome (when the pressure builds up really high in the muscle compartment, causing damage.). He had a metal rod placed in his bone to hold it straight and then a muscle release. The muscle release part then needed a skin graft.

All of this is sort of routine in trauma surgeries, despite sounding gruesome.

If bone is aligned correctly and heals, there really shouldn’t be major long term ramification. Typically by 6 months after a tibial shaft fracture, the bones well healed. What’s curious is that they’re seemingly unsure if he’s coming back or not. Again not knowing the specifics, I’d expect them to know by now I wonder if the compartment syndrome caused actual muscle damage and that’s what he’s now recovering against.

For a normal person, you’d be pretty happy walking without a limp. For a high level athlete thou, maybe a 5% drop in functionality could derail a career.

It’s concerning. (Full disclosure, I said Alex Smith would never play again and we saw how that went so I definitely could be wrong. Alex Smith had a much worse injury too.)


Really interesting post... thanks for chiming in Jerz44.
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Simms11 : 5/28/2022 9:37 am : link
In comment 15720176 KingBlue said:
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In comment 15720161 Jerz44 said:


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I have no inside info on Gates but from what I’ve gathered via online reports he had a tibial fracture and compartment syndrome (when the pressure builds up really high in the muscle compartment, causing damage.). He had a metal rod placed in his bone to hold it straight and then a muscle release. The muscle release part then needed a skin graft.

All of this is sort of routine in trauma surgeries, despite sounding gruesome.

If bone is aligned correctly and heals, there really shouldn’t be major long term ramification. Typically by 6 months after a tibial shaft fracture, the bones well healed. What’s curious is that they’re seemingly unsure if he’s coming back or not. Again not knowing the specifics, I’d expect them to know by now I wonder if the compartment syndrome caused actual muscle damage and that’s what he’s now recovering against.

For a normal person, you’d be pretty happy walking without a limp. For a high level athlete thou, maybe a 5% drop in functionality could derail a career.

It’s concerning. (Full disclosure, I said Alex Smith would never play again and we saw how that went so I definitely could be wrong. Alex Smith had a much worse injury too.)



Really interesting post... thanks for chiming in Jerz44.


Yea, agree, very interesting post and informative.
RE: Im an Orthopedic surgeon…  
Klaatu : 5/28/2022 9:44 am : link
In comment 15720161 Jerz44 said:
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I have no inside info on Gates but from what I’ve gathered via online reports he had a tibial fracture and compartment syndrome (when the pressure builds up really high in the muscle compartment, causing damage.). He had a metal rod placed in his bone to hold it straight and then a muscle release. The muscle release part then needed a skin graft.

All of this is sort of routine in trauma surgeries, despite sounding gruesome.

If bone is aligned correctly and heals, there really shouldn’t be major long term ramification. Typically by 6 months after a tibial shaft fracture, the bones well healed. What’s curious is that they’re seemingly unsure if he’s coming back or not. Again not knowing the specifics, I’d expect them to know by now I wonder if the compartment syndrome caused actual muscle damage and that’s what he’s now recovering against.

For a normal person, you’d be pretty happy walking without a limp. For a high level athlete thou, maybe a 5% drop in functionality could derail a career.

It’s concerning. (Full disclosure, I said Alex Smith would never play again and we saw how that went so I definitely could be wrong. Alex Smith had a much worse injury too.)


Thanks for posting this, as depressing as it was to read.

As an aside, my orthopedic surgeon walked into the examination room, put my x-rays up on the lightboard thing, and said, "Wow. Your hip looks like shit."

I said, "Is that the medical term?"

He said, "It is where your hip is concerned."
Jerz  
Vanzetti : 5/28/2022 10:28 am : link
Thanks for such a great post it really helps when somebody shares their expertise like this.

If the muscle was damaged in the compartment syndrome can it recover 100%?

I know Matt Harvey had compartment syndrome and he can still throw hard he just can’t sustain it and his ball doesn’t have movement like it used to
I can’t imagine anything more  
Big Blue '56 : 5/28/2022 10:48 am : link
horrific than what Seubert and Tim Krumrie experienced
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SJGiant : 5/28/2022 11:00 am : link
In comment 15720224 Klaatu said:
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In comment 15720161 Jerz44 said:


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I have no inside info on Gates but from what I’ve gathered via online reports he had a tibial fracture and compartment syndrome (when the pressure builds up really high in the muscle compartment, causing damage.). He had a metal rod placed in his bone to hold it straight and then a muscle release. The muscle release part then needed a skin graft.

All of this is sort of routine in trauma surgeries, despite sounding gruesome.

If bone is aligned correctly and heals, there really shouldn’t be major long term ramification. Typically by 6 months after a tibial shaft fracture, the bones well healed. What’s curious is that they’re seemingly unsure if he’s coming back or not. Again not knowing the specifics, I’d expect them to know by now I wonder if the compartment syndrome caused actual muscle damage and that’s what he’s now recovering against.

For a normal person, you’d be pretty happy walking without a limp. For a high level athlete thou, maybe a 5% drop in functionality could derail a career.

It’s concerning. (Full disclosure, I said Alex Smith would never play again and we saw how that went so I definitely could be wrong. Alex Smith had a much worse injury too.)



Thanks for posting this, as depressing as it was to read.

As an aside, my orthopedic surgeon walked into the examination room, put my x-rays up on the lightboard thing, and said, "Wow. Your hip looks like shit."

I said, "Is that the medical term?"

He said, "It is where your hip is concerned."


I would normally say this is very funny if it wasn't about your hip.
SJGiant, if I can laugh about, so can you.  
Klaatu : 5/28/2022 11:52 am : link
Remember, laughter is the best medicine...well, next to marijuana, of course.
RE: SJGiant, if I can laugh about, so can you.  
solarmike : 5/28/2022 1:29 pm : link
In comment 15720286 Klaatu said:
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Remember, laughter is the best medicine...well, next to marijuana, of course.


My pain Doc took one look at my hip x-ray and said "FUBAR"... got me on a fast track to surgery just prior to Covid hitting the country. The Ortho did good work. Thank God I had insurance and and lot's of vodka.
Jerz44  
Lines of Scrimmage : 5/29/2022 8:07 am : link
Thanks for posting that very informative post Doc.

Pulling for him. In addition to be a good player he has those intangibles that help make special teams and really good OL's.
I'm no orthopedic surgeon but appreciate the comments  
SGMen : 5/29/2022 9:38 am : link
My gut says Gates will go 110% and if he shows up at camp it will be to watch and learn the playbook while being around the guys. I think you miss up to six games when you start the season on IR? Or something like that.
Wouldn't it be great to see Gates on the practice squad this year healing up? Imagine the emotional lift if he got to start a game or two and did well?

I always root for the little guy.
Took Seubert 2 Years To Come Back  
LTIsTheGreatest : 5/29/2022 11:26 am : link
from his similar injury. I doubt Gates makes it back this year
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Carson53 : 5/30/2022 10:49 am : link
In comment 15720864 LTIsTheGreatest said:
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from his similar injury. I doubt Gates makes it back this year
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^This
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