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JayBinQueens : 5/27/2022 7:32 pm
Game 1 of a 'big' early season series.

1-0 Mets after Pete's sac fly RBI

Lindor just stole 2nd to make it 2nd and 3rd with 1 out
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The Mets bullpen is just bad  
CooperDash : 5/29/2022 10:15 pm : link
That was terrible.
Brutal.  
speedywheels : 5/29/2022 10:16 pm : link
Just brutal
RE: The Mets bullpen is just bad  
moze1021 : 5/29/2022 10:17 pm : link
In comment 15721063 CooperDash said:
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That was terrible.


No it's not.

But that was a bad pitch.
RE: Terrible pitch call  
Snablats : 5/29/2022 10:19 pm : link
In comment 15721062 moze1021 said:
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Why throw the damn fastball

Are there any real catchers left who wont let a pitcher make a stupid pitch selection like that? Why would Mazeika let Ottavino throw a fastball in that situation?
There was no reason to pitch Ottavino last night.  
BigBlueNH : 5/29/2022 10:20 pm : link
Gotta be more judicious using our 2-3 set-up men. Especially with Smith going down.
RE: RE: The Mets bullpen is just bad  
CooperDash : 5/29/2022 10:21 pm : link
In comment 15721065 moze1021 said:
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In comment 15721063 CooperDash said:


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That was terrible.



No it's not.

But that was a bad pitch.


Okay…they make a lot of bad pitches then.

This pen started off strong but has absolutely come back down to earth.
This effing team!!  
RodneyHamp : 5/29/2022 10:40 pm : link
!!
Yes!!!!!  
speedywheels : 5/29/2022 10:41 pm : link
Wooooo!!!
This team is special  
spike : 5/29/2022 11:03 pm : link
what chemistry!
Escobar finally comes through!  
speedywheels : 5/29/2022 11:04 pm : link
Great comeback after giving up that bomb
Let's go!!  
moze1021 : 5/29/2022 11:04 pm : link
Awesome sweep!

Escobar coming up huuuuuge! Hopefully that gets him going!
Mets  
GF1080 : 5/29/2022 11:07 pm : link
What an effing team!!
never a doubt  
KDubbs : 5/29/2022 11:07 pm : link
lets sweep the nats now
Plummer and Escobar  
pjcas18 : 5/29/2022 11:09 pm : link
different people picking up the team every night.

Has to feel good getting the GW when they intentionally walk someone to get to you.

Hope Smith is ok, this bullpen is not deep.
RE: never a doubt  
speedywheels : 5/29/2022 11:09 pm : link
In comment 15721082 KDubbs said:
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lets sweep the nats now


It gets VERY rough after WAS, they really need to sweep
RE: RE: never a doubt  
GF1080 : 5/29/2022 11:11 pm : link
In comment 15721084 speedywheels said:
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lets sweep the nats now



It gets VERY rough after WAS, they really need to sweep


It is tough but no they don't really need to sweep.
Definitely need 2 of 3 vs Washington  
Snablats : 5/29/2022 11:51 pm : link
Mets facing the Dodgers, Padres, Angels (lost 5 straight, now 27-22), and Brewers without their top 3 starters. Maybe Megill gets back for Angels or Brewers

Bullpen will have to be on point - cant afford blown leads late when missing those starters vs those teams. Gotta win the games you lead late in this stretch or it could get ugly
RE: RE: RE: never a doubt  
speedywheels : 5/30/2022 12:31 am : link
In comment 15721086 GF1080 said:
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In comment 15721084 speedywheels said:


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In comment 15721082 KDubbs said:


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lets sweep the nats now



It gets VERY rough after WAS, they really need to sweep



It is tough but no they don't really need to sweep.


They need to grab as many “easy” wins as they can.

RE: Definitely need 2 of 3 vs Washington  
lax counsel : 5/30/2022 1:08 am : link
In comment 15721093 Snablats said:
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Mets facing the Dodgers, Padres, Angels (lost 5 straight, now 27-22), and Brewers without their top 3 starters. Maybe Megill gets back for Angels or Brewers

Bullpen will have to be on point - cant afford blown leads late when missing those starters vs those teams. Gotta win the games you lead late in this stretch or it could get ugly


Top 3 starters? Wait, when exactly did Megill pass Cookie and Bassitt? In a fully healthy rotation , Megill is battling Peterson and Walker for #5.
RE: RE: Definitely need 2 of 3 vs Washington  
Snablats : 5/30/2022 1:35 am : link
In comment 15721104 lax counsel said:
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In comment 15721093 Snablats said:


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Mets facing the Dodgers, Padres, Angels (lost 5 straight, now 27-22), and Brewers without their top 3 starters. Maybe Megill gets back for Angels or Brewers

Bullpen will have to be on point - cant afford blown leads late when missing those starters vs those teams. Gotta win the games you lead late in this stretch or it could get ugly



Top 3 starters? Wait, when exactly did Megill pass Cookie and Bassitt? In a fully healthy rotation , Megill is battling Peterson and Walker for #5.

The way Megill was pitching, he was ahead of Bassitt and Carrasco already. To say he would be a 5th starter after how he started the year is just wrong
RE: RE: RE: Definitely need 2 of 3 vs Washington  
lax counsel : 5/30/2022 1:55 am : link
In comment 15721106 Snablats said:
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In comment 15721104 lax counsel said:


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In comment 15721093 Snablats said:


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Mets facing the Dodgers, Padres, Angels (lost 5 straight, now 27-22), and Brewers without their top 3 starters. Maybe Megill gets back for Angels or Brewers

Bullpen will have to be on point - cant afford blown leads late when missing those starters vs those teams. Gotta win the games you lead late in this stretch or it could get ugly



Top 3 starters? Wait, when exactly did Megill pass Cookie and Bassitt? In a fully healthy rotation , Megill is battling Peterson and Walker for #5.


The way Megill was pitching, he was ahead of Bassitt and Carrasco already. To say he would be a 5th starter after how he started the year is just wrong


I don’t view it that way, but I guess it may be a good problem to have?!
I really enjoy coming back  
Rory : 5/30/2022 3:33 pm : link
To threads the next day and seeing when we are not winning how everyone just degrades every player not making a play and then….

They come back and win the game.

It’s a long season and Too early to fret that much. After trade deadline tho…it’s fucking on

LGFM
I think Megill would be ahead of Cookie but right behind Bassitt  
allstarjim : 5/30/2022 4:47 pm : link
Now let's get him back!

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DanMetroMan : 5/31/2022 1:03 pm : link
Odds are @mets
will need to add a RP or 2 in-season but Nunez/Montes de Oca/Otanez/Orze all have legitimate big-league stuff and aren't "far" off
You have to believe  
Snablats : 5/31/2022 1:06 pm : link
the Mets are going to acquire proven veteran relievers this summer
RE: You have to believe  
DanMetroMan : 5/31/2022 1:07 pm : link
In comment 15721863 Snablats said:
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the Mets are going to acquire proven veteran relievers this summer


Yes. It's unlikely a contender goes with multiple unproven rookie RP but it's nice to have that depth. Also, none are likely to ever be a viable Diaz replacement but a guy like Holderman (or one of the names I just mentioned) could be viable replacements for a guy like May next season.
Deadline  
DanMetroMan : 5/31/2022 1:09 pm : link
RP's at generally easy to come by, as are bench bats (see last years Braves moves)
Dom optioned to AAA and medina up  
Eric on Li : 5/31/2022 2:58 pm : link
damn kind of surprised even though his play has made it likely for a while now.
.  
DanMetroMan : 5/31/2022 2:59 pm : link
Man, @stluciemets
really is loaded with interesting players. 20 year old William Lugo has a 116 wRC+/.348 wOBA (top 25 in the league for both numbers) and @mets
liked him enough to sign him for $475,000 August 2018

Junior Tilien's 3 homer game on Sunday was the first 3 homer game in the 34 season history of @stluciemets
, that per @MavalloneMiLB
RE: Dom optioned to AAA and medina up  
DanMetroMan : 5/31/2022 3:00 pm : link
In comment 15721934 Eric on Li said:
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damn kind of surprised even though his play has made it likely for a while now.


Probably land somewhere like Pittsburgh at the deadline for a RP or Quintana.
RE: RE: Dom optioned to AAA and medina up  
Eric on Li : 5/31/2022 3:04 pm : link
In comment 15721937 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 15721934 Eric on Li said:


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damn kind of surprised even though his play has made it likely for a while now.



Probably land somewhere like Pittsburgh at the deadline for a RP or Quintana.


Could see that. The Paddack deal would have been a good one if he wasn't damaged goods but i assume they will do something similar - and at this point it might be better that they waited bc RP is probably the bigger need.
Bednar  
DanMetroMan : 5/31/2022 3:09 pm : link
would be great but can't see Pittsburgh flipping him straight for Dom who is already arbitration eligible.
Megill  
DanMetroMan : 5/31/2022 3:19 pm : link
is throwing live BP today, Buck says 1-2 rehab starts before he can come back.
RE: Dom optioned to AAA and medina up  
Mike in NY : 5/31/2022 3:19 pm : link
In comment 15721934 Eric on Li said:
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damn kind of surprised even though his play has made it likely for a while now.


Since Dom has options remaining I am not surprised. Guillorme and Plummer are both hitting for now and Davis's metrics indicate that he has run into some bad luck. Give him some consistent AB's in AAA to work things out. With Drew Smith nicked up and 2/5 of the rotation being lucky if they give 5 IP they needed another bullpen arm.
RE: Megill  
Mike in NY : 5/31/2022 3:22 pm : link
In comment 15721956 DanMetroMan said:
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is throwing live BP today, Buck says 1-2 rehab starts before he can come back.


Even if he replaces Trevor Williams in the starting rotation, his pitch counts were getting way too high. If he can't give you more than 5 IP that really taxes the bullpen. Mets might be better served tag teaming Williams with either Peterson or Megill in the hopes of getting 7-8 IP between them.
RE: Dom optioned to AAA and medina up  
speedywheels : 5/31/2022 3:38 pm : link
In comment 15721934 Eric on Li said:
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damn kind of surprised even though his play has made it likely for a while now.


Yep....his anemic bat was not nearly enough to overcome the marginally better glove than Pete at 1B
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DanMetroMan : 5/31/2022 3:47 pm : link
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Francisco Lindor is the NL Player of the Week for May 23-29.

All Lindor did was hit .348/.407/.870 with two doubles, two triples, two homers and -- here's the silly part -- 14 RBI, including at least one in all six games.

The Mets hadn't had an NL POTW since Syndergaard in '19.
Its much better than marginal  
Snablats : 5/31/2022 3:47 pm : link
but they need pitching and you cant send Plummer down now, plus he isnt hitting
RE: Its much better than marginal  
speedywheels : 5/31/2022 3:53 pm : link
In comment 15721993 Snablats said:
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but they need pitching and you cant send Plummer down now, plus he isnt hitting


Nope, it's marginal. If it was significantly better, Buck would have had him at 1B and Pete at DH.

But his hitting sucks, his glove isn't much of an improvement and they need pitching, so a clear no brainer move to send him down...
He is much better defensively  
Snablats : 5/31/2022 3:55 pm : link
which is why Dom always came in for late inning defense. But the need for pitching and Dom's lack of hitting sends him down
RE: He is much better defensively  
speedywheels : 5/31/2022 3:59 pm : link
In comment 15722002 Snablats said:
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which is why Dom always came in for late inning defense. But the need for pitching and Dom's lack of hitting sends him down


Again - if it was THAT much better, he'd be playing full time at 1B.

Oh, and "always"? LOL - it was a handful of times; certainly much less than "always"...
Alonso’s improved defense is a big part  
Metnut : 5/31/2022 4:04 pm : link
of why this is the right call to send Dom down to AAA. His defense doesn’t really add much value when Alonso is competent there and Smith doesn’t hit for shit.

Hopefully Smith can at least hit at AAA and redeem some value.
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DanMetroMan : 5/31/2022 4:06 pm : link
Anthony DiComo
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Mets Game 51 of 162, vs. WAS
Tuesday, May 31, 7:10 p.m.
LHP Patrick Corbin (1-7, 6.30)

Canha CF
Marte RF
Lindor SS
Alonso 1B
J.D. Davis DH
McNeil LF
Escobar 3B
Guillorme 2B
Nido C
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T. Williams RHP (0-3, 4.37)
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DanMetroMan : 5/31/2022 4:09 pm : link
Looks fine to me... still find it odd they opt for Canha over Marte in CF, but I guess they have their reasons?
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DanMetroMan : 5/31/2022 4:09 pm : link
Pat Ragazzo
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Brandon Nimmo had a good day and his wrist has improved, per Buck. He is expected to start either tomorrow or Thursday
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DanMetroMan : 5/31/2022 4:34 pm : link
Katoh might be listed as an OF but 0 games out there this year, Vientos also 0, with Lee suddenly showing signs of life, he may in fact get another chance quicker than expected despite his truly awful start to his season
RE: .  
Eric on Li : 5/31/2022 4:55 pm : link
In comment 15722017 DanMetroMan said:
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Looks fine to me... still find it odd they opt for Canha over Marte in CF, but I guess they have their reasons?


i think they are trying to keep miles off his legs.
Apparently  
DanMetroMan : 5/31/2022 5:00 pm : link
Marte said he doesn't feel comfortable switching back and forth. That would explain it.
RE: .  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/1/2022 9:11 am : link
In comment 15721992 DanMetroMan said:
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The Mets hadn't had an NL POTW since Syndergaard in '19.


Embarrassing tbh.
Why not play Vientos in OF now  
Metnut : 6/1/2022 9:15 am : link
What is the downside?
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