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JayBinQueens : 5/27/2022 7:32 pm
Game 1 of a 'big' early season series.

1-0 Mets after Pete's sac fly RBI

Lindor just stole 2nd to make it 2nd and 3rd with 1 out
2-0  
JayBinQueens : 5/27/2022 7:37 pm : link
after two, short, sac flys to RF with aggressive baserunning
10 pitch ab  
JayBinQueens : 5/27/2022 7:39 pm : link
opposite field broken back hit into the hole left by the shift

3-0
Great diving stop  
JayBinQueens : 5/27/2022 7:51 pm : link
by Pete to prevent the 2 run double
That darn Alonso and his crappy defense.  
CooperDash : 5/27/2022 7:53 pm : link
Doesn’t he know the stats and the eye test???
Phillies are Faltering tonight  
KDavies : 5/27/2022 8:09 pm : link
Yes, I’ve been waiting to say that since I saw the pitching matchup
Girardi  
GNewGiants : 5/27/2022 8:11 pm : link
Will be fired at the ASB. Just an awful coach who inspires no one on this team.

One team the Mets will have no worries about this year.
in other Mets news…  
KDavies : 5/27/2022 8:16 pm : link
Jankowsi out 6-8 weeks after hand surgery. Szapucki sent down. Lopez and Nogosek brought up. Lopez appealed suspension. Knocked down to 1 game. Serving tonight.

Dan didn’t do a minor league thread, but Alvarez 4-4 with 2 HR, a 2B, and a walk. Nice to see him getting going again
2 run homer, Alonso  
Dennis : 5/27/2022 8:22 pm : link
Mets up 5-0.
Alonso is doing it all, offense and defense.
i missed the entire SF series  
PakistanPete : 5/27/2022 8:32 pm : link
because of the late start time.

This is fun!
RE: in other Mets news…  
spike : 5/27/2022 8:49 pm : link
In comment 15719966 KDavies said:
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Jankowsi out 6-8 weeks after hand surgery. Szapucki sent down. Lopez and Nogosek brought up. Lopez appealed suspension. Knocked down to 1 game. Serving tonight.

Dan didn’t do a minor league thread, but Alvarez 4-4 with 2 HR, a 2B, and a walk. Nice to see him getting going again


whos our backup CF?
Alonso, and now a double  
Dennis : 5/27/2022 8:53 pm : link
4 rbi's, 45 rbi's for the season, first ever before Memorial Day.
RE: RE: in other Mets news…  
CGiants07 : 5/27/2022 8:54 pm : link
In comment 15719982 spike said:
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In comment 15719966 KDavies said:


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Jankowsi out 6-8 weeks after hand surgery. Szapucki sent down. Lopez and Nogosek brought up. Lopez appealed suspension. Knocked down to 1 game. Serving tonight.

Dan didn’t do a minor league thread, but Alvarez 4-4 with 2 HR, a 2B, and a walk. Nice to see him getting going again



whos our backup CF?

marte for tonight, probably a call up coming in a day or so
RE: RE: in other Mets news…  
KDavies : 5/27/2022 9:08 pm : link
In comment 15719982 spike said:
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In comment 15719966 KDavies said:


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Jankowsi out 6-8 weeks after hand surgery. Szapucki sent down. Lopez and Nogosek brought up. Lopez appealed suspension. Knocked down to 1 game. Serving tonight.

Dan didn’t do a minor league thread, but Alvarez 4-4 with 2 HR, a 2B, and a walk. Nice to see him getting going again



whos our backup CF?


I would expect them to bring up Plummer soon. With an off day yesterday, they probably figured it was a good time for Lopez to serve his suspension
Bad luck 6th  
moze1021 : 5/27/2022 9:19 pm : link
Ugh
I can't stomach this shit.  
moze1021 : 5/27/2022 9:32 pm : link
.
Just the other day, Shreve was brought in and gave up a 3 run homer,  
BigBlueNH : 5/27/2022 9:41 pm : link
so Buck choses to go with Shreve in the exact same situation. Why?
Pen has gotta close this down  
Metnut : 5/27/2022 10:07 pm : link
Any of you guys see Alvarez HR tonight? What a bomb!


https://twitter.com/jacob_resnick/status/1530348932592803842?s=21 - ( New Window )
I get that its really early  
Gmanfandan : 5/27/2022 10:27 pm : link

And we have a 7 game lead in the division - but this is a pretty important game to get to the finish line.

After the two losses in SF its time to right the ship - as long as you're looking for the ship to take you to the WS.

LFGM

lets go SETH
Bullpen weakness we all feared  
moespree : 5/27/2022 10:43 pm : link
Is starting to catch up to them. It has not been good recently, to say the least.
RE: Pen has gotta close this down  
KDavies : 5/27/2022 10:49 pm : link
In comment 15720040 Metnut said:
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Any of you guys see Alvarez HR tonight? What a bomb!
https://twitter.com/jacob_resnick/status/1530348932592803842?s=21 - ( New Window )


Unreal. 20 years old.
RE: Bullpen weakness we all feared  
moze1021 : 5/27/2022 10:54 pm : link
In comment 15720060 moespree said:
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Is starting to catch up to them. It has not been good recently, to say the least.


I mean... It was 1 hr tonight then bullpen shut it down ..


Huge win. They needed this.
Pete made a couple good defensive plays  
Snablats : 5/28/2022 12:34 am : link
almost gave them back with his usual going to far to his right move

The Mets need to bring in proven veterans for the bullpen. You cant let this team falter because of guys like Shreve and Smith and Rodriguez when you have the money to buy a better pen
Pete with a helluva game all the way around.  
speedywheels : 5/28/2022 12:39 am : link
Now take tomorrow and get back to winning series again.

What happened to Janikowski? I gusss i missed it.
RE: Pete with a helluva game all the way around.  
Ira : 5/28/2022 6:56 am : link
In comment 15720110 speedywheels said:
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Now take tomorrow and get back to winning series again.



What happened to Janikowski? I gusss i missed it.


Hand surgery due to an injury from a diving catch. He'll be out 6-8 weeks.
RE: Pete made a couple good defensive plays  
PakistanPete : 5/28/2022 7:24 am : link
In comment 15720108 Snablats said:
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almost gave them back with his usual going to far to his right move


Hush now.

#LGM
Lol is this good  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/28/2022 8:24 am : link
RE: Pete made a couple good defensive plays  
moze1021 : 5/28/2022 8:39 am : link
In comment 15720108 Snablats said:
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almost gave them back with his usual going to far to his right move

The Mets need to bring in proven veterans for the bullpen. You cant let this team falter because of guys like Shreve and Smith and Rodriguez when you have the money to buy a better pen


I can't put Smith in that category right now.

They will add an arm. We'll also get to say if May can get back to his pre Mets days once he is back. Still plenty of time before deadline to see what shakes out.
Who was it that said Syndergard was a jag now  
Debaser : 5/28/2022 9:07 am : link
I don't want to start calling people out but, he is now 4-2, low 3 ERA with like 20 something strikeouts ; not too shabby for a jag.
RE: Who was it that said Syndergard was a jag now  
Mike in NY : 5/28/2022 9:16 am : link
In comment 15720204 Debaser said:
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I don't want to start calling people out but, he is now 4-2, low 3 ERA with like 20 something strikeouts ; not too shabby for a jag.


Based on IP the strikeout numbers are way down from Mets totals where he was at or above 1 K/IP. This year he is at 0.71. He also has failed to get out of 6th inning in over half of his starts. That tells me the ERA is likely to go up.
RE: RE: Who was it that said Syndergard was a jag now  
Debaser : 5/28/2022 11:18 am : link
In comment 15720208 Mike in NY said:
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I don't want to start calling people out but, he is now 4-2, low 3 ERA with like 20 something strikeouts ; not too shabby for a jag.



Based on IP the strikeout numbers are way down from Mets totals where he was at or above 1 K/IP. This year he is at 0.71. He also has failed to get out of 6th inning in over half of his starts. That tells me the ERA is likely to go up.


What is so special about Strikeouts now? Fielders can't field any more? I remember when Doc Gooden said he was going to Strikeout fewer batters and let the fielders take some of the pressure off him. It worked out well.

I would not mind having Noah still a Met right now . 2 mil is chump change for these salaries.
Noah  
pjcas18 : 5/28/2022 11:27 am : link
left by choice, not sure your point.

He had an offer from the Mets, he appeared ready to accept it and he never even gave the Mets a chance to counter his offer from the Angels.

He did not want to be here. Which is different from someone like Wheeler for example who was pissed the Mets never even made an offer.

The Mets likely would have given Noah the $2.5M more he got from the Angels.

but...if Noah stayed I doubt Scherzer was signed and injuries aside I prefer Scherzer if I had to pick one or the other.
Should have kept Wheeler  
spike : 5/28/2022 11:31 am : link
F Coupons
i wouldnt be against Noah...  
Italianju : 5/28/2022 11:43 am : link
on the mets but he is basically pitching like a 4/5 starter right now. That has value for sure, but it does put you as more a JAG then anything else. He is like 50th in IP in the AL, 60th in K's and hasnt even accumulated enough innings to be ranked in ERA/WHIP. Rankings dont really mean much, i was more using it to make the point he is a JAG i guess. We know wins are a mostly useless stat so his record doesnt really matter to me. His K numbers are awful. SO's are important because the more hitters put the ball in play the more they will get on base and score. Unless you are a guy who consistently has a low BAA on balls in play (Noah doesnt) then its tricky to keep a low ERA (or any advanced ERA stat) when you arent getting K's. His BABIP this year is 259, he hasnt been under 313 since his rookie year. So odds are there is some negative regression coming for him.

yeah wheeler is the one that is still upsetting....  
Italianju : 5/28/2022 11:43 am : link
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I’m really nervous about June. Without 3/5s of our starting rotation,  
CooperDash : 5/28/2022 11:51 am : link
and let’s be real, without Max and Jake - it’s going to be a really tough run. We basically play all first place teams the entire month.
RE: I’m really nervous about June. Without 3/5s of our starting rotation,  
moze1021 : 5/28/2022 1:08 pm : link
In comment 15720285 CooperDash said:
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and let’s be real, without Max and Jake - it’s going to be a really tough run. We basically play all first place teams the entire month.


Think about it this way...your talking about having Peterson and someone else start maybe up to 10 games...

If I'm being generous our win % with Max and Tylor is 80% they win 8 of 10? Without it's maybe 30-40%, say they win only 3-4 of those 10....it's not thaaaaat bad
RE: yeah wheeler is the one that is still upsetting....  
moze1021 : 5/28/2022 1:13 pm : link
In comment 15720281 Italianju said:
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At least we aren't the Orioles or Mariners who gave up on Cortes after getting him for nothing..
the strikeouts are less of a flag than syndergaard's velocity  
Eric on Li : 5/28/2022 1:42 pm : link
his average FB is 94 mph down from 97/98 in 2018/2019.

he's also 38 innings into a season where he will probably hit a wall and get shutdown somewhere between 100-150. So he may be a couple starts away from his season being halfway over.

i wanted him back as much as anyone but the mets dodged a bullet in terms of $. I think they still would have gone for Scherzer even with Syndergaard, but I doubt they'd have also added Bassitt - who is also $10m cheaper than Syndergaard would have been which gives them money to spend elsewhere.

also another HR for Vientos last night who is now up to .240 with an .810 OPS. A few more hot weeks and he may be an option to come up and get some DH at bats.
Baty  
DanMetroMan : 5/28/2022 6:28 pm : link
to the IL. Injury unknown.
Question of the night  
Shecky : 5/28/2022 7:09 pm : link
Which thread will he be more despised on tonight?
Mets or rangers?
RE: Question of the night  
speedywheels : 5/28/2022 7:41 pm : link
In comment 15720489 Shecky said:
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Which thread will he be more despised on tonight?
Mets or rangers?


Rangers
Yea but having him would be really handy right now  
Debaser : 5/28/2022 7:49 pm : link
I like Bassitt but he stunk up the place recently and has an ERA nearly a point higher .

I’m scared to death of what’s coming unless we’re expecting Alonso to keep hitting like BAbe Ruth.
Opposite field hit by Canha moves Escobar to third and Smith hits a  
Ira : 5/28/2022 7:56 pm : link
sac fly. I love runs like that.
will they  
spike : 5/28/2022 8:47 pm : link
finish this game
Nice play  
PakistanPete : 5/28/2022 9:04 pm : link
Lindor.

That bunt was amazing.
Oh man  
PakistanPete : 5/28/2022 9:07 pm : link
watching the Phillies play baseball is hilarious.
Marte and Canha have been incredible additions.  
spike : 5/28/2022 9:11 pm : link
Lindor, McNeil, and Alonzo are having great seasons.

Guillorme is a starter in this league
Holderman  
pjcas18 : 5/28/2022 9:19 pm : link
with a clean inning (2k's)

would be huge if he sticks.

one thing that hurts even more without deGrom and Scherzer is Walker needs to be used more and I'd like to be able to rest him so he's fresh in the 2nd half (unlike last year)
it should help walker that he's more built up by now  
Eric on Li : 5/28/2022 9:24 pm : link
2020 he threw 53 innings off basically 2 full lost years.
last year he threw 159 which was the 2nd most of his career and most since 2017.

but honestly if he can just bridge the gap to getting the top guys back over the next 1-2 months anything beyond that is gravy.
RE: Holderman  
spike : 5/28/2022 9:31 pm : link
In comment 15720598 pjcas18 said:
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with a clean inning (2k's)

would be huge if he sticks.

one thing that hurts even more without deGrom and Scherzer is Walker needs to be used more and I'd like to be able to rest him so he's fresh in the 2nd half (unlike last year)


Great job by Holderman
RE: it should help walker that he's more built up by now  
pjcas18 : 5/28/2022 9:34 pm : link
In comment 15720600 Eric on Li said:
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2020 he threw 53 innings off basically 2 full lost years.
last year he threw 159 which was the 2nd most of his career and most since 2017.

but honestly if he can just bridge the gap to getting the top guys back over the next 1-2 months anything beyond that is gravy.


true it would just be nice to have a fully healthy arsenal if the Mets can manage to hold on for the next few months.

holderman and smith are like the revenge of the narratives  
Eric on Li : 5/28/2022 9:35 pm : link
no more talk smack about the deadline reliever trades or the bonus babies from the kay draft!

good news though we can probably still bitch that they should have signed another rp before ST.
Holderman  
Vanzetti : 5/28/2022 9:37 pm : link
He has a temperament to be a closer or set up guy; you can just see it ;when I watched the games in San Francisco in between innings and the way he holds himself on the mound. he’s just got that presents. He gets the ball and he wants to throw it

I’m not saying he’s ready now or that he won’t struggle down the line you can see this guy has it, though
RE: RE: it should help walker that he's more built up by now  
Eric on Li : 5/28/2022 9:38 pm : link
In comment 15720609 pjcas18 said:
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2020 he threw 53 innings off basically 2 full lost years.
last year he threw 159 which was the 2nd most of his career and most since 2017.

but honestly if he can just bridge the gap to getting the top guys back over the next 1-2 months anything beyond that is gravy.



true it would just be nice to have a fully healthy arsenal if the Mets can manage to hold on for the next few months.


no disagreement at all - but if there's 1 guy whose struggles have a silver lining it's Walker because he's probably one of the most underpaid guys in all baseball and almost definitely opting out unless he gets hurt.

in a full arsenal situation he probably won't get a playoff start so i kind of view this time right now with other guys out as his playoffs.
In the playoffs  
pjcas18 : 5/28/2022 9:42 pm : link
I view Walker as the long man in the pen, who hopefully you don't need but can be valuable to save the pen if you do - and give the team a chance to say in the game.

And that's assuming deGrom, Scherzer, Bassit and Carrasco all healthy
Lindor  
pjcas18 : 5/28/2022 9:44 pm : link
is playing well.
Yeah  
PakistanPete : 5/28/2022 9:46 pm : link
this Lindor guy is OK.
If they keep this up  
spike : 5/28/2022 9:50 pm : link
I foresee several All stars this year from this team
hey im a big walker fan his career isn't far off Wheeler's pre-PHI  
Eric on Li : 5/28/2022 9:52 pm : link
when he's on his stuff is very impressive. the all star appearance last year wasn't a total fluke.

finding the fountain of durability/consistency as Wheeler has is very uncommon though - and if he puts together a full year this year he's going to get a very big raise.
A Marlin Man  
spike : 5/28/2022 10:26 pm : link
sighting
It always feels good to beat  
pjcas18 : 5/28/2022 10:28 pm : link
the Phillies, no matter what else is happening at the time.
What a brutal day on the farm  
pjcas18 : 5/29/2022 12:18 am : link
I don't care really about W/L in the minors, but man this is abysmal:

SYR: lost 8 - 0 (had just 4 hits)
BIN: lost 11 - 2 (had just 4 hits)
STL: lost 3 - 0 (had just 4 hits)

Brooklyn lost 9 - 8 all 8 runs came after the 6th inning.
RE: In the playoffs  
speedywheels : 5/29/2022 12:31 am : link
In comment 15720621 pjcas18 said:
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I view Walker as the long man in the pen, who hopefully you don't need but can be valuable to save the pen if you do - and give the team a chance to say in the game.

And that's assuming deGrom, Scherzer, Bassit and Carrasco all healthy


Agree - walker is a complete afterthought in the playoffs. Assuming max and Jdg are healthy
RE: holderman and smith are like the revenge of the narratives  
speedywheels : 5/29/2022 12:35 am : link
In comment 15720613 Eric on Li said:
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no more talk smack about the deadline reliever trades or the bonus babies from the kay draft!

good news though we can probably still bitch that they should have signed another rp before ST.


Look this team finally has money - they can Always make a trade at the. Deadline if needed. The window to win a championship is always narrow. Go for it when you can.
So that is scored as fielders choice  
Debaser : 5/29/2022 7:35 pm : link
For Escobar? I guess it pays to have a spot on a good roster . That would have been a routine out to first base if there was nobody on base.

I was going to say when Escobar came up wheeler could’ve just thrown three pitches down the middle
Escobar has really been terrible at the plate this year  
speedywheels : 5/29/2022 9:29 pm : link
And his defense has been mediocre.

At some point, Buck has to think about rolling with Davis out there
Drew Smith i s injured  
spike : 5/29/2022 9:37 pm : link
trying to grab a batted ball with his bare hand. sigh
Ugh  
moze1021 : 5/29/2022 9:37 pm : link
Probably will be without Smith for a while now... No bueno
Oh. for fucks sake  
speedywheels : 5/29/2022 9:39 pm : link
Unbelievable .
Familia looks terrible in a Phillies uniform...  
moze1021 : 5/29/2022 9:58 pm : link
Aesthetically

Sinker looks good though
I mentioned the I think the series  
GNewGiants : 5/29/2022 10:02 pm : link
Before last that the Phillies would be the most disappointing team in baseball this year. They are a train wreck. Girardi should be fired. Dembrowski just buys players instead of developing them. And I forgot what poster mocked me when I said Schwerber was a major disappointment but he may in fact might be worst signing in the off-season and a huge detriment to the team.

If I’m the Phillies - I become huge sellers at the deadline. Nola, Hoskins (overrated but someone will take a chance), Eflin, Gibson should all be traded so they can get some type of farm. They have literally no hitters in the minors worth a damn.
Terrible pitch call  
moze1021 : 5/29/2022 10:14 pm : link
Why throw the damn fastball
The Mets bullpen is just bad  
CooperDash : 5/29/2022 10:15 pm : link
That was terrible.
Brutal.  
speedywheels : 5/29/2022 10:16 pm : link
Just brutal
RE: The Mets bullpen is just bad  
moze1021 : 5/29/2022 10:17 pm : link
In comment 15721063 CooperDash said:
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That was terrible.


No it's not.

But that was a bad pitch.
RE: Terrible pitch call  
Snablats : 5/29/2022 10:19 pm : link
In comment 15721062 moze1021 said:
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Why throw the damn fastball

Are there any real catchers left who wont let a pitcher make a stupid pitch selection like that? Why would Mazeika let Ottavino throw a fastball in that situation?
There was no reason to pitch Ottavino last night.  
BigBlueNH : 5/29/2022 10:20 pm : link
Gotta be more judicious using our 2-3 set-up men. Especially with Smith going down.
RE: RE: The Mets bullpen is just bad  
CooperDash : 5/29/2022 10:21 pm : link
In comment 15721065 moze1021 said:
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That was terrible.



No it's not.

But that was a bad pitch.


Okay…they make a lot of bad pitches then.

This pen started off strong but has absolutely come back down to earth.
This effing team!!  
RodneyHamp : 5/29/2022 10:40 pm : link
!!
Yes!!!!!  
speedywheels : 5/29/2022 10:41 pm : link
Wooooo!!!
This team is special  
spike : 5/29/2022 11:03 pm : link
what chemistry!
Escobar finally comes through!  
speedywheels : 5/29/2022 11:04 pm : link
Great comeback after giving up that bomb
Let's go!!  
moze1021 : 5/29/2022 11:04 pm : link
Awesome sweep!

Escobar coming up huuuuuge! Hopefully that gets him going!
Mets  
GF1080 : 5/29/2022 11:07 pm : link
What an effing team!!
never a doubt  
KDubbs : 5/29/2022 11:07 pm : link
lets sweep the nats now
Plummer and Escobar  
pjcas18 : 5/29/2022 11:09 pm : link
different people picking up the team every night.

Has to feel good getting the GW when they intentionally walk someone to get to you.

Hope Smith is ok, this bullpen is not deep.
RE: never a doubt  
speedywheels : 5/29/2022 11:09 pm : link
In comment 15721082 KDubbs said:
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lets sweep the nats now


It gets VERY rough after WAS, they really need to sweep
RE: RE: never a doubt  
GF1080 : 5/29/2022 11:11 pm : link
In comment 15721084 speedywheels said:
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lets sweep the nats now



It gets VERY rough after WAS, they really need to sweep


It is tough but no they don't really need to sweep.
Definitely need 2 of 3 vs Washington  
Snablats : 5/29/2022 11:51 pm : link
Mets facing the Dodgers, Padres, Angels (lost 5 straight, now 27-22), and Brewers without their top 3 starters. Maybe Megill gets back for Angels or Brewers

Bullpen will have to be on point - cant afford blown leads late when missing those starters vs those teams. Gotta win the games you lead late in this stretch or it could get ugly
RE: RE: RE: never a doubt  
speedywheels : 5/30/2022 12:31 am : link
In comment 15721086 GF1080 said:
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lets sweep the nats now



It gets VERY rough after WAS, they really need to sweep



It is tough but no they don't really need to sweep.


They need to grab as many “easy” wins as they can.

RE: Definitely need 2 of 3 vs Washington  
lax counsel : 5/30/2022 1:08 am : link
In comment 15721093 Snablats said:
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Mets facing the Dodgers, Padres, Angels (lost 5 straight, now 27-22), and Brewers without their top 3 starters. Maybe Megill gets back for Angels or Brewers

Bullpen will have to be on point - cant afford blown leads late when missing those starters vs those teams. Gotta win the games you lead late in this stretch or it could get ugly


Top 3 starters? Wait, when exactly did Megill pass Cookie and Bassitt? In a fully healthy rotation , Megill is battling Peterson and Walker for #5.
RE: RE: Definitely need 2 of 3 vs Washington  
Snablats : 5/30/2022 1:35 am : link
In comment 15721104 lax counsel said:
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Mets facing the Dodgers, Padres, Angels (lost 5 straight, now 27-22), and Brewers without their top 3 starters. Maybe Megill gets back for Angels or Brewers

Bullpen will have to be on point - cant afford blown leads late when missing those starters vs those teams. Gotta win the games you lead late in this stretch or it could get ugly



Top 3 starters? Wait, when exactly did Megill pass Cookie and Bassitt? In a fully healthy rotation , Megill is battling Peterson and Walker for #5.

The way Megill was pitching, he was ahead of Bassitt and Carrasco already. To say he would be a 5th starter after how he started the year is just wrong
RE: RE: RE: Definitely need 2 of 3 vs Washington  
lax counsel : 5/30/2022 1:55 am : link
In comment 15721106 Snablats said:
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Mets facing the Dodgers, Padres, Angels (lost 5 straight, now 27-22), and Brewers without their top 3 starters. Maybe Megill gets back for Angels or Brewers

Bullpen will have to be on point - cant afford blown leads late when missing those starters vs those teams. Gotta win the games you lead late in this stretch or it could get ugly



Top 3 starters? Wait, when exactly did Megill pass Cookie and Bassitt? In a fully healthy rotation , Megill is battling Peterson and Walker for #5.


The way Megill was pitching, he was ahead of Bassitt and Carrasco already. To say he would be a 5th starter after how he started the year is just wrong


I don’t view it that way, but I guess it may be a good problem to have?!
I really enjoy coming back  
Rory : 5/30/2022 3:33 pm : link
To threads the next day and seeing when we are not winning how everyone just degrades every player not making a play and then….

They come back and win the game.

It’s a long season and Too early to fret that much. After trade deadline tho…it’s fucking on

LGFM
I think Megill would be ahead of Cookie but right behind Bassitt  
allstarjim : 5/30/2022 4:47 pm : link
Now let's get him back!

.  
DanMetroMan : 5/31/2022 1:03 pm : link
Odds are @mets
will need to add a RP or 2 in-season but Nunez/Montes de Oca/Otanez/Orze all have legitimate big-league stuff and aren't "far" off
You have to believe  
Snablats : 5/31/2022 1:06 pm : link
the Mets are going to acquire proven veteran relievers this summer
RE: You have to believe  
DanMetroMan : 5/31/2022 1:07 pm : link
In comment 15721863 Snablats said:
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the Mets are going to acquire proven veteran relievers this summer


Yes. It's unlikely a contender goes with multiple unproven rookie RP but it's nice to have that depth. Also, none are likely to ever be a viable Diaz replacement but a guy like Holderman (or one of the names I just mentioned) could be viable replacements for a guy like May next season.
Deadline  
DanMetroMan : 5/31/2022 1:09 pm : link
RP's at generally easy to come by, as are bench bats (see last years Braves moves)
Dom optioned to AAA and medina up  
Eric on Li : 5/31/2022 2:58 pm : link
damn kind of surprised even though his play has made it likely for a while now.
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DanMetroMan : 5/31/2022 2:59 pm : link
Man, @stluciemets
really is loaded with interesting players. 20 year old William Lugo has a 116 wRC+/.348 wOBA (top 25 in the league for both numbers) and @mets
liked him enough to sign him for $475,000 August 2018

Junior Tilien's 3 homer game on Sunday was the first 3 homer game in the 34 season history of @stluciemets
, that per @MavalloneMiLB
RE: Dom optioned to AAA and medina up  
DanMetroMan : 5/31/2022 3:00 pm : link
In comment 15721934 Eric on Li said:
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damn kind of surprised even though his play has made it likely for a while now.


Probably land somewhere like Pittsburgh at the deadline for a RP or Quintana.
RE: RE: Dom optioned to AAA and medina up  
Eric on Li : 5/31/2022 3:04 pm : link
In comment 15721937 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 15721934 Eric on Li said:


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damn kind of surprised even though his play has made it likely for a while now.



Probably land somewhere like Pittsburgh at the deadline for a RP or Quintana.


Could see that. The Paddack deal would have been a good one if he wasn't damaged goods but i assume they will do something similar - and at this point it might be better that they waited bc RP is probably the bigger need.
Bednar  
DanMetroMan : 5/31/2022 3:09 pm : link
would be great but can't see Pittsburgh flipping him straight for Dom who is already arbitration eligible.
Megill  
DanMetroMan : 5/31/2022 3:19 pm : link
is throwing live BP today, Buck says 1-2 rehab starts before he can come back.
RE: Dom optioned to AAA and medina up  
Mike in NY : 5/31/2022 3:19 pm : link
In comment 15721934 Eric on Li said:
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damn kind of surprised even though his play has made it likely for a while now.


Since Dom has options remaining I am not surprised. Guillorme and Plummer are both hitting for now and Davis's metrics indicate that he has run into some bad luck. Give him some consistent AB's in AAA to work things out. With Drew Smith nicked up and 2/5 of the rotation being lucky if they give 5 IP they needed another bullpen arm.
RE: Megill  
Mike in NY : 5/31/2022 3:22 pm : link
In comment 15721956 DanMetroMan said:
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is throwing live BP today, Buck says 1-2 rehab starts before he can come back.


Even if he replaces Trevor Williams in the starting rotation, his pitch counts were getting way too high. If he can't give you more than 5 IP that really taxes the bullpen. Mets might be better served tag teaming Williams with either Peterson or Megill in the hopes of getting 7-8 IP between them.
RE: Dom optioned to AAA and medina up  
speedywheels : 5/31/2022 3:38 pm : link
In comment 15721934 Eric on Li said:
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damn kind of surprised even though his play has made it likely for a while now.


Yep....his anemic bat was not nearly enough to overcome the marginally better glove than Pete at 1B
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DanMetroMan : 5/31/2022 3:47 pm : link
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Francisco Lindor is the NL Player of the Week for May 23-29.

All Lindor did was hit .348/.407/.870 with two doubles, two triples, two homers and -- here's the silly part -- 14 RBI, including at least one in all six games.

The Mets hadn't had an NL POTW since Syndergaard in '19.
Its much better than marginal  
Snablats : 5/31/2022 3:47 pm : link
but they need pitching and you cant send Plummer down now, plus he isnt hitting
RE: Its much better than marginal  
speedywheels : 5/31/2022 3:53 pm : link
In comment 15721993 Snablats said:
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but they need pitching and you cant send Plummer down now, plus he isnt hitting


Nope, it's marginal. If it was significantly better, Buck would have had him at 1B and Pete at DH.

But his hitting sucks, his glove isn't much of an improvement and they need pitching, so a clear no brainer move to send him down...
He is much better defensively  
Snablats : 5/31/2022 3:55 pm : link
which is why Dom always came in for late inning defense. But the need for pitching and Dom's lack of hitting sends him down
RE: He is much better defensively  
speedywheels : 5/31/2022 3:59 pm : link
In comment 15722002 Snablats said:
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which is why Dom always came in for late inning defense. But the need for pitching and Dom's lack of hitting sends him down


Again - if it was THAT much better, he'd be playing full time at 1B.

Oh, and "always"? LOL - it was a handful of times; certainly much less than "always"...
Alonso’s improved defense is a big part  
Metnut : 5/31/2022 4:04 pm : link
of why this is the right call to send Dom down to AAA. His defense doesn’t really add much value when Alonso is competent there and Smith doesn’t hit for shit.

Hopefully Smith can at least hit at AAA and redeem some value.
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DanMetroMan : 5/31/2022 4:06 pm : link
Anthony DiComo
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Mets Game 51 of 162, vs. WAS
Tuesday, May 31, 7:10 p.m.
LHP Patrick Corbin (1-7, 6.30)

Canha CF
Marte RF
Lindor SS
Alonso 1B
J.D. Davis DH
McNeil LF
Escobar 3B
Guillorme 2B
Nido C
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T. Williams RHP (0-3, 4.37)
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DanMetroMan : 5/31/2022 4:09 pm : link
Looks fine to me... still find it odd they opt for Canha over Marte in CF, but I guess they have their reasons?
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DanMetroMan : 5/31/2022 4:09 pm : link
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Brandon Nimmo had a good day and his wrist has improved, per Buck. He is expected to start either tomorrow or Thursday
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DanMetroMan : 5/31/2022 4:34 pm : link
Katoh might be listed as an OF but 0 games out there this year, Vientos also 0, with Lee suddenly showing signs of life, he may in fact get another chance quicker than expected despite his truly awful start to his season
RE: .  
Eric on Li : 5/31/2022 4:55 pm : link
In comment 15722017 DanMetroMan said:
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Looks fine to me... still find it odd they opt for Canha over Marte in CF, but I guess they have their reasons?


i think they are trying to keep miles off his legs.
Apparently  
DanMetroMan : 5/31/2022 5:00 pm : link
Marte said he doesn't feel comfortable switching back and forth. That would explain it.
RE: .  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/1/2022 9:11 am : link
In comment 15721992 DanMetroMan said:
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The Mets hadn't had an NL POTW since Syndergaard in '19.


Embarrassing tbh.
Why not play Vientos in OF now  
Metnut : 6/1/2022 9:15 am : link
What is the downside?
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